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We propose further that what is left behind is more the result of subjective choice than reasoned analysis. Science does not systematically disprove occult theses; as a general rule, it freely elects not to consider them.

I wouldn't mind reading about Bozo's extracurricular activities.

Troy what about that cafe reminded you of Starbucks

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Alice Walker and Tracie Chsoman also had a café in Fort Greene.

Troy you may find this surprising but I disagree with you. I worked with a white guy who is in his 20's and he loves Public Enemy and is up on Mos Def. Public Enemy toured Europe. On the flip side people here seem to like the fact that Selena Gomez sings and keeps her clothes on while doing so. I think Millie Jackson said it best. When she went to people's house she would see classical records in their living room but her records were in the bed room. Lowest common denominator sells. Which is why book stores are closing and iTunes is a major seller of music. At the moment there is still some hip hop with intelligence it just doesn't get a lot if airplay because the public doesn't want to hear it. A few years back I heard a track called beef and broccoli, and nu jack exterminator. Which were both intelligent and well crafted.

Troy I think the current media is pandering to the lowest denominator.

Cynique I think you ate on the money. Troy the genre us called Black Exploitation. That says it all. Perhaps it is a difference if degree

It's similar to the controversy around the Superfly movie. Dime say it glorified drug dealing, some say it is a story about redemption I think it is both depending on your perspective.

Scientific facts are useful. What is the point of life. Audible math, I like the sound of it. I am reading a book. Science, Religion and Myth and the shaping of Western Thought

Mathematics may be more if a symbolic language. That defines relationship. Interestingly enough some if the set theory people question whether math is s science.

Actually some mathematicians thinks math is created much like art and is basically a fiction of the mind. You can search the philosophy of mathematics, embodied mind theory etc. As for a s music you listing descriptors not expression. I am defining expression as essence. Music to me is an exprssion of a concept, thought or feeling. I am bot certain how those three items are different.

Great Review Cynique

Yes it is called mathematics. Mist fields are belief systems. I guess for me I wouldn't put cultural mores in the same field as scientific opinion. Actually that is not consistent with what I said earlier.

In your response you said most people would agree so you could consider it universally true. This statement doesn't make sense. It's I'd like saying it id mostly universally true, or that's absolutely true most of the time. You could say I am being overly critical or you can tell me what dictionary you are using.

If you live in a war zone you are not likely to delay gratification.

Pioneer - I found out last week. Although I am not sure. My Astrology teacher says I am a psychic, and my light worker friends says I am a clairvoyant.

My point is that I ad am individual do not want yo day what id right for others. And since I am not part of the judicial or executive branch I feel no need to do so.

I am mot saying that offensive behavior should be tolerated bit different views should be.

Can you ask me a simple question like maybe a sentence or two instead of two paragraphs.

Universal in my opinion is absolute.

Take one point and I will attempt to ex So you explain it. I will ask you a question again is set theory a subset of Logic?

This was my reply. Veteran Member Members 364 posts 0 warning points Posted 22 May 2013 - 06:47 AM Troy You said philosophy and science are mutually exclusive. i mentioned logic, which is both an element in science and philosophy. You have conveniently forgotten to answer that question. O had to look through two of my statistics books and two of Adtrological Research books, both of which use stastical analysis. What you have in your example is a binomial distribution. If you got those results. You would assume it wasn't a fair coin. While that wouldn't tell you anything about the population it would tell you something about that particular coin. I could tell you why your statement isn't valid but the fundamental errors show a lack if understanding about statistics and statistical analysis. Normally we disagree and I'll debate the point, but not in this instance. Like This Quote MultiQuote Delete Edit Report Delano Veteran Member Members 364 posts 0 warning points Posted 22 May 2013 - 06:58 AM Troy if you are flipping a coin 1000 times you would only need two people two determine if there is a significant difference. What you are talking about here is am F test or F Distribution. In fact you could have ad fee as 100 coin tosses. So you would be wrong I could do this experiment with two people flipping a coin 100 times. Like This Quote MultiQuote Delete Edit Report

The following is a direct quote from you and my resposne. Platinum Level Poster Administrators 2,079 posts LocationHarlem, USA Posted 21 May 2013 - 10:50 PM Pioneer your points all ASSUME that there is indeed a spiritual world. One could easily argue the opposite using your very same reasoning. Del, a horse has a tail but that does not make it a mouse because a mouse has a tail. That aside what is logical about Astrology? On my 3rd point, if you flipped a coin 100 times and got heads 75 times it would be false for you to say there is a 75% chance of getting heads on a coin toss -- even if you flipped the coin under some tarot or astrologically defined conditions. The reason is the likelihood of me flipping a coin 100 times and getting the same result, without consulting tarot card or astrological charts is very possible. Sure you can flip the coin 1,000 time and get marginally better results but it would still not be enough data. It would be better If you got 10,000 people to flip the coin 1,000 times under the tarot conditions and different set of 10,000 people to flip a coin under random conditions. If you compared the results between the two sets of people under those conditions and found a significant variance you might have something. Especially if someone else was able to reproduce your experiment and get the same results. You can't do this by yourself. Like This Founder & Webmaster of AALBC.com

I also do not believe this is what should be done. However what I saying is that the suicide bomber believes this is a correct action. And my question becomes who is right. And how can or should you judge another with your yardsticks. You feel they are wrong they feel they are right. What I am saying if there is an objective true you would say they are right or they would say you are right or some position in the middle. Do you believe killing in war is right, or would you say let the other side slaughter us because we are correct. And different points in history people have chosen one or the other. So here I am asking you a direct question can you answer them, which is something you are accusing me of doing. I can not explain my position any clearer.