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Troy I was "clowning" on you a little bit with that statement.....lol. I'll agree with what you said about less educated people using violence more only because less educated people tend to be poorer, and again...there's a direct link between crime and poverty. But I don't think education is the key factor in making people less violent. As Del pointed out already, most of the wars in history were started by well educated Presidents, Generals, Kings, and other societal leaders. As far as me personally........ I'm not sure where you got THAT impression.....lol. If I believed in using violence to solve every personal conflict I wouldn't have made it past 25 years of age in this society. Perhas you took what I said to Cynique about a man "taking down" those who talked about his mother and "fighting the good fight" as in PHYSICAL take downs and fighting -that's not what I meant. Certainly if a man were to insult my Mother to my face, they would more than likely get a PHYSICAL reaction from me; but in general and especially online I'm talking about fighting with a war of words and ideaology.

Cynique Lol, I'm not sure why you had to get all NASTY with it but again....... Your definition isn't too exact, it's too blanketed and vague. While you claim that YOUR definition (not the three that you just provided which are TOTALLY DIFFERENT than what you were saying earlier) is not meant to declare a loser "good" or "bad" ; it's still renders an unfair judgement upon people because it doesn't take into account the ENTIRE PICTURE of their lives. Again...... You called slaves and disabled people who couldn't overcome their disability LOSERS. And again....... While those conditions certainly aren't ideal and most people who are in them those conditions would surely change them if they could....they may have other qualities and accomplishments going on in their lives that OUT WEIGH their misfortunes. And my problem with YOUR definition of a loser is that it fails to take those other qualities and accompishments into account. The fact is, EVERYONE is a combination of both a winner and loser to various degrees. Some win more than lose, others lose more than win.....all in different areas. We must be careful with tossing around these vague and blanketed statements.

Cynique I never said anything about you being "weak" or "soft". I concluded that since this exchange between you and Kalexander took place on-line, there was nothing you could do about his ridiculous comments and this included extracting an apology from him, but that you could nullify his remarks by simply blowing them off and moving on. That seems to be what he did in regard to what he considered insults that you hurled at him No you haven't. However both you and Troy seem to believe that my REACTION to K2's insults are just as bad as K2's insults and by not "ignoring" him that somehow made me less mature or dignified. In my opinion it should be the other way around...... If I see someone insult a Black man's mother...a good Black woman....I would CHEER for that man to be stood up to and taken down. I wouldn't tell the brother to just "ignore" him. I'd encourage the brother to fight the good fight and condemn the offender for acting out of order. But that's just me.... Troy There was a study that showed less educated people get more upset by perceived slight than more educated people do. They are measurably more upset. They want to fight if you talk about their mother or accidentally step on their sneakers. These people will literally murder you if you cut them off in traffic. I can't remember where I read this, but there was also something else related about the "honor culture." It is the same reasoning that got all the poor uneducated white people to shoot each other to death during the Civil War. Yeaaaa??? Well guess what, I read somewhere that highly educated people....especially those who grew up in New York....chose to further their education for the sole reason that they weren't good at fighting and figured it would be a good way to avoid conflict...LOL. Now I forgot where I read that at....LOL.....but it was probably in a book that was sitting next to the same book YOU were reading. What you read sounds like an observation of Alexis Tocqueville during his journey through out America. I'm not sure about the less educated part in specific, but less educated people tend to be poorer and their a link between poverty and crime. People with money tend to fight with lawyers and punish their enemies legally; whereas most people who are poor can't afford lawyers and don't have the time or resources to drag things out for years in court so they tend to settle personal issues PERSONALLY....often time with violence or direct confrontation. But another issue is stress and that causes a lot of people to "go off" despite their educational status. And all classes of people outside of the very rich seem to be under more stress today than they were 30 years ago. Del There can be no unity without respect. Absolutely! Which is one of the reasons I think we as a community need to NAIL DOWN EXACTLY what constitutes as disrespect and what is unacceptable. As I've said many times before, AfroAmericans don't really have a set CULTURE and because of this our community is in a state of confusion where everyone has different values and opinions of what is good and bad or acceptable and unacceptable. We need atleast a basic understanding and agreement as a people of atleast basic civility.

I may be laughing out loud.....LOL....but who said I was "joking" about you - him -and those scandalous pictures -???? BTW....it appears that the problem has returned with the profiles being merged and mixed up.

Mel @Troy and @Pioneer1 it seems as if both of you agree - which really puts the onus on mainstream media. They are exposed - no longer can they feed "educated" and "experienced" folks bullshit ... and expect us to swallow it. Dr. Wade Nobles said that power was the ability to define reality and have others accept it. Most people around the world will deny what they SEE with their very eyes, only to accept what they are TOLD on television. I think if people started letting thier own observations and experiences educate them as much as possible instead of relying soley on what they see on television or even what they may read in a book....the vast majority of the world's problems would be solved in less than one years time. Like you said earlier, it's better to actually VISIT people places and see for yourself instead of just reading about them.....you come with an entirely different and more wholesome perspective.

Cynique Woman, you're CRAZY as hell.....lol. It's one thing to be cynical. It's another thing to be cruel and crazy. I think you've been talking to Krazy Alexander a little too much now. I'm beginning to wonder was it a mistake to encourage more dialog between you two....lol. I don't believe anyone is a total winner or total loser. To call someone a winner or loser is like calling them superior or inferior.....you have to first define the SUBJECT in which you're calling them a winning/losing in. Superior in WHAT? golf, writing, diving,..... Inferior in WHAT? cooking, academics, sports...... A winner in WHAT? dating, fighting.... A loser in WHAT? buying houses, racing cars...... What have the lost in? Some people may be losing financially, but winning in health. Other's may be billionaires but losers when it comes to relationships. A woman may be considered a loser by you because she's a slave...but if she's in the HOUSE and getting all types of treats from her master she may consider herself a WINNER, especially compared to the other slaves and if she ends up living to be 104 with 35 great grandchildren....is she still a loser even though she's a slave? A person with no legs and in a wheel chair may be a multi-millionaire who is a great conductor with a wife and children. Would you consider him a loser even though he didn't overcome the fact that he couldn't walk? Futher, in my opinion in order for someone to qualify as a loser in any field they have to have lost REPEATEDLY. Losing one time or in one thing...doesn't necessarily make you a loser any more than telling one lie makes you a liar or stealing one thing makes you a thief. The action has to be repetative....and again, the subject in which they're losing in should always be attached....e.i.. "loser at finances" or "loser in relationships"...ect. Your definition is too blanket and simplistic in my opinion.

Cynique & K2 If you think it's "weak" or "soft" for a man to get highly offended when his mother is insulted I'm going to have to SERIOUSLY question how many Black men you two have actually been around. Even WHITE MEN know not to talk about a Black man's mama unless you're suicidal or just looking for a fight....how did YALL end up missing the memo???? It doesn't matter if someone is trying to push your buttons or not, it's about principle. If you're walking down the street with your daughter and someone walks up, points at her, grins, and says she's gonna be a "little ho" when she grows up- What are you gonna do; get mad and fight? Or assume they're just trying to "push your buttons" and walk away grinning thinking you won while you're daughter looks at you confused as to why you didn't react? Troy I'm not sure what he's been asking you to do with regard to ME, but I'm not asking that he be banned....because then he wouldn't be able to apologize, lol. Standing before the community holding his head down and admitting how silly and childish "we" were is not an apology NOR do I even believe it's sincere in his case. It reminds me of Jimmy Swaggart going before his churchcrying with snot running down his nose talking about he "sinned against them"...lol. If you're truly sorry and ashamed of your behavior then APOLOGIZE and that will be more evidence of sincerity. Anything else is just patronizing people. As far as Sara..... It's difficult to say because everyone has different moral standards. I operated a website with a message board briefly years ago I didn't have to ban anyone but it was only up for about 7 or 8 months. My rules were simple and clear and as long as no one violated them people could say whatever no matter how outrageous or obnoxious. In the case with that site, the problem weren't the posters but with the MODERATORS....lol. That's when I really learned a lesson that not only can't everyone handle power but MOST PEOPLE can't handle power responsibily. Between working full time and trying to get an organization going I didn't have time to just sit and monitor the site myself. I barely had time to even post upcoming events and answer questions which was what I started the site and discussion board for in the first place. So I called myself choosing moderators based on intelligence and maturity but as soon as they got into arguments with people some of them would delete embarassing respons They did more participating than moderating and one had a habit of deleting people's reponses if they got the best of him in an argument....LOL. Also, although my instructions of what to delete or warn people about were CRYSTAL CLEAR....they kept on making judgements based on their OWN beliefs of what was right or wrong based on their religious concepts or what their parents taught them on how people should treat eachother. After failing to properly delegate power on the board, I decided to just shut it down and use the sight to promote upcoming events. I learned many lessons about people and power though. But whether Sara actually went to far or not....I think there should be CLEAR RULES in the Black community over what should and shouldn't be tolerated and it should be part of our culture so as to leave little room for misunderstanding. As I said above, I thought it was almost common sense among most people.....especially in the generations over 30....to not talk about a Black man's mother unless you were looking for a fight. When did that change? Where can you go and talk about a Black man's mother in real life and expect to just walk away in peace?

You mean there's ANOTHER ONE (besides the ones you sent me....lol) floating around ????? Well, I hope your 89 year old "boy toy" isn't naked and dancing in the background in THAT one, like he was on half the others........lol.

Troy You're arguing with me over how stupid a term is that I didn't even create? I didn't invent the term. Like you said, White people invented the term "Middle East"....tell THEM that Egypt and Libya is in Africa and not me....lol. As far as Morocco goes....... Perhaps I AM wrong about it but I've heard it being described as Middle Eastern before regardless as to how erroneous and stupid it may SOUND. I know you don't care too much for using Wikipedia as a source but when it comes to definitions they are good at going into the history of terms and words and under "other definitions of the Middle East" we read: "Various concepts are often being paralleled to Middle East, most notably Near East, Fertile Crescent and the Levant. Near East, Levant and Fertile Crescent are geographic concepts, which refer to large sections of the modern defined Middle East, with Near East being the closest to Middle East in its geographic meaning. Due to it primarily being Arabic speaking, the Maghreb region of North Africa is sometimes included." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East Maghreb is pretty much what the Arabs called all of North Africa west of Egypt. Also, I've seen Moroccan restaurants being refered to as "Middle Eastern" foods. Like I said, I didn't invent the term so don't get mad at me man....lol. The next time CNN or ABC refers to Egypt or Libya or some other African nation as "Middle Eastern" you may want to send them and e-mail correcting them, lol. 　 　 Chevdove Actually, uhm, I absolutely remember reading somewhere that the international leagues in the Western nations did change the maps around some point in 1947 when they recarved the maps for the Jews in Europe to go back to 'the Middle East' and, I vaguely do remember that, believe it or not, yes, MOROCCO was included in on their geographical definition of 'THE MIDDLE EAST'. I think it does have something to do with the Arabs, Islam, and the muslims. yes, I think @Pioneer1 maybe right here. I just remember when I read something along those lines, I was amazed that they were defining parts of North Africa, all the way west as 'the Middle East' Thank you. I've heard people refer to Morocco and even all of North Africa as the "Middle East" because of it's Arabic culture. But like i said, I'm not fond of arguing over terms I didn't create. I love it! This so wonderfully stated. However, with respect to the 'giants' I don't believe that they were all 'this' or all 'that', or all negative or all positive. It is my belief that the "giants" spoken of in the Bible is just the terms that Caucasians used for the earlier Black races that existed in those regions before they invaded. We know that Black civilizations that were more advanced with better diet and higher knowledge lived in those regions and when the smaller and more ignorant Caucasians came into contact with these people they were intimidated and refered to them as giants. If we look at the Masai and Dinka of Kenya and Sudan we STILL find very tall well built Black men and women who probably occupied much of that region before the Caucasian races drove them out. So yes, just like you have good and bad Black people today....you had good and bad Black people back in those days. But when Caucasians came with their new religions, they had to PORTRAY them as evil and wicked and abomnible in order to have an excuse to kill them and drive them out. 　 That is the issue here, some statements are 'myth' and I believe that over the years, the sound proof to confirm history is a tool(s) that we can not use or do not possess to verify history as being totally true or not. You're absolutely correct! A myth is a SYMBOLIC STORY that is designed to conceal the truth. With the right codes you can UNLOCK that truth that the myth contains. I believe the story of Noah's ark was a MYTH that contained the TRUTH of Caucasians coming down out of the Caucasus mountains and spreading out over the region. Mr. Ararat which the Ark allegedly landed on is located in the Caucasus mountains and his children and grandchildren spreading in different directions is the same as how the Caucasians spread out from the Caucasus mountains to found various civilizations.

Interesting......... What about handicapped people or people with disabilities? Do you consider them "losers" too?

Yall a straight up MESS with this "both sides" business...lol. You remind me of Donald Trump talking about "both sides" were to blame at that Nazi rally down in Virginia, claiming there were good and bad people on "both sides". And lines were crossed on "both sides". And just like Donald Trump failed to recognize that the behavior of the protestors were a REACTION to the ACTION of the Nazis. Some of you fail to acknowledge that my hostility towards Kalexander is a result of HIS BEHAVIOR that he initiated towards me. Kalexander has..... 1. Insulted both my Parents 2. Threatened bodily harm 3. Told out right LIES about my identity (Troy I know you said no insults and I'm not sure if that would be considered an insult but when you asked him if he could back up his allegations he admitted he couldn't so I'd consider it more of a fact than an insult) If no one considers the above behavior "crossing the line" then please tell me WHAT IS "the line" and how do we know when it's been crossed? If talking about your parents and children aren't crossing the line during a disagreement over politics....... Then break out the text book and show men WHAT constitutes crossing the line and what does a person have to say in order that we can agree that the line has been crossed.

It appears that the problem has been resolved. Thanks Troy BTW, this is just more reason for why I DON'T publish my identity and personal information in public forums like this. If you have hackers monitoring and causing problems on this site, who's to say they couldn't steal your pictures and other personal information that you've put out? Trying to maintain a sense of privacy with an intrusive government is enough for you to worry about....you don't need more worries from feeding hackers and racist trolls.

Troy Something weird is going on. I'm having a hard time posting on half of the threads, and on the other half Cynique's profile and features come up instead of mine. THIS thread is the only thread I managed to get through on. I can't even send you a private message because THAT feature is also acting up.

Why is Cynique's profile inside my account? Or is my profile in hers? And the time on when people posted are all off. Am I the only one experiencing this phenomena???

Cynique Victims of society are losers even if this isn't entirely of their own making. You become a winner when you find or are provided a way to successfully overcome your negative circumstances and go on to survive or even thrive. So by your definition.....were the slaves of America who were victims of society at that time "losers"???? 　 Krazy Alexander Yeah, we love marking territory with our testosterone, as if a Blackman is in charge of anything except abusing Black females. Speak for your self because I don't abuse Black females. Is THAT the reason you decided to marry a NON-Black woman? To avoid being abusive????

Troy I understand your point, but I'm not sure if you're understanding mine..... I KNOW where those nations are located, but IT DOESN'T MATTER whether or not the country is in Africa or not the term "Middle East" has more to do with culture than continent. Egypt, Lybia, and Morocco may be in Africa but it's CONTROLLED by Arabs and it's culture is an Arabic culture. And yes Israel and Iran is part of Middle Eastern culture because of their history. Hebrew is a Semetic language like Arabic. Israel has a large population of Arabs still within it's borders. Persian or Farsi is written in Arabic and Iran is a predominately Muslim nation. I understand YOUR point that these nations are in the continent of Africa, but you're looking at maps and I'm talking about how many of the people from those nations see THEMSELVES. ...especially those from Egypt and Morocco that I've talked to. They share far more in common with other Arabs from places like Syria and Bahrain, than they do Black folks from Zimbabwe or Angola. Neither you nor I invented the term "Middle East". I'm not sure how productive it would be for us to wrangle over it's exact meaning of a tern neither of us invented or have control over. If the media and even the Eyptian government wants to call Egypt the Middle East and align it with Syria and Iraq....what can me, you, or any of the Black controlled nations in Africa do about it? That's what White Supremacy does. It causes confusion and have people of color arguing among themselves over politics, religion, geography, and everything else. Meanwhile the Caucasians who ORCHESTRATED IT and the terms being used aren't arguing over anything but which one of them gets the biggest share of the wealth and resources they're sucking from the land....lol.

Cynique 　 Black problems and what causes them have been discussed here and on all the other social media discussion boards ad infinitum, and everybody just parrots the same ol tired litany. Show me on any other discussion board where someone else has suggested that righteous Black men organize and march into the ghettoes of America to clean them up. The only other group that I can think of who has seriously proposed this is the Nation of Islam. there are programs and resources available and 2-parent homes within the black middle class which turn out young black men who are not losers. Perhaps you need to define what you mean by "loser". In my opinion, a healthy young Black man isn't a "loser" simply because he may be incarcerated or financially broke. The problem MAY NOT lay with him, but in the SOCIETY that he's living in. The same young Black man on the street who is feared and reviled by society and considered a "thug"....in another era in another society may have been loved and adored as a strong and brave prince! Oh, really? This may be true in Detroit, but it is most definitely not the case in Chicago. Oh! I guess GENTRIFICATION hasn't come to Chicago yet.

Cynique but Troy is who decides whether or not it will continue its run on this site Well I know YOU aren't the one who decides it. Because if you were, the decision would have surely been made already and I'm not very confident the decision would have been in my favor....LOL Now listen..... STOP jabbing at me and trying to pick a fight and focus yourself on Krazy Alexander's request. He asked for you to PLEASE elaborate on what you meant by him (I'm not asking you so leave me out of it) revealing things about himself. He said he wanted to grow from constructive criticizm and he requested if from you. Don't keep him waiting. You claim I was wrong in my assessment in how he relates to others on this board so here's your opportunity to show me that I was wrong, lol. Don't keep him waiting. Go ahead and elaborate on what you mean! ((nudge nudge))....go on.

I know Egypt is part of Africa as well as Lybia and Morocco but they are still considered part of the Middle East as well. Middle East is more of a CULTURAL term than a geographical one. Juar like the term Latin America. Latin American countries are found in both North AND South America....two continents. Likewise, the "Middle East" also spans two continents....Africa and Asia.

Troy but this will never happen unless white people throw us out -- all of us -- not just one or two Perhaps that's JUST what they need to force them into action and put them into an ownership state of mind. If Trump calling them "sons of bitches" wasn't enough.... If the conservative White owners sticking together to enact new rules forcing them to stand wasn't enough.... Perhaps an outright EXPULSION of all players who refuse to tow the line and replacing them with atheletes imported from Eastern Europe will be a big enough slap in the face to wake them up to thier position. Sometimes being FORCED into circumstances against your desire and even against your will brings some of the BEST out of you. When I look at the condition of AfroAmericans since the 60s and how we seem to have more "opportunities" today than we had 100 years ago.....but have less businesses and family values....I have to wonder....... Was integration and White America giving us social and political benefits a sincere effort toward justice? Or was it part of a plot to make us lazy and content because they know we do EXTREMELY well when our backs are up against the wall?

Chevdove GOSH! You may have no idea how important your response is to me Well if it means THAT much to you then send me some money for it....LOL. The right approach! You're right again. I cannot begin to tell you, in a discreet manner, the kind of conflicts that has unexpectedly come to my mind, based on your response, due to the twist and turns of dealing with issues on this wise as a whole. Again, you've written a little, but it's volumes! Thank you so much for taking the time to write this! I plan to share this with my husband. I curious to hear his response. I suspect he is going to be very vocal! You're more than welcome, but I have to be honest....... When I read the excitement of your response I have to wonder if you're really that impressed by what I said or if you're just "putting me on" in a sacrastic way...lol. You've just refreshed my memory on the terms; Talmud, Torah, Tanakh... The interesting thing about the Talmud is that the so-called Jews of Ethiopia know little to nothing about it. The Talmud was constructed in BABYLON during the captivity of SOME of the Israelites by the Babylonians under Nebuchadnazzar. Infact, it's called the BABYLONIAN Talmud. But many people around the world who claim to be descendants of Israel know nothing about it. If you read the Bible carefully, a certain portion of Israelites actually heeded the warnings that were given and left and went down into Egypt BEFORE Babylonians attacked and they escaped captivity. I believe these were the ancestors of the so-called Falasha or so-called Ethiopian Jews who practice an entirely different form of the religion than what Jews in the West practice. Infact, they don't even call themselves Jews but Beta Israel or House of Israel.

Chevdove But here is the issue that I see though; The Western Civilization and I suppose other nations too, keep changing the names and the maps with regards to the origins of certain people in ancient times. Iraq, Syria, Saudi, had people living in these areas that had other descriptive names that place them with 'other origins' that places them in Africa too, before they migrated east. For example, in the land of ancient Iran, Persia, lived the people of AI I've heard the argument that the Middle East is actually part of northeast Africa but the West tries to seperate it. To be honest, I could see it that way....but barely. As far as I'm concerned it's just as much if not more a part of Asia than Africa. I believe since most Black people in the United States are either Muslim or Christian they have an interest in seeing what their religions call the "holy land" as part of Africa.....similar to how a lot of our people want to make Jesus and the other biblical characters Black. I'm beyond that at this point. I do recognize that the ORIGINAL inhabitants of that region were indeed Black..... Before the Caucasian Medes and Persians moved into Iran the original peoples there were a Black people known as Elamites. Before for the Caucasian Syrians moved into the Palestine coastal regions, the original people's in that area were Black and built a city called "Salem" that Caucasian later came in, continued to build upon, and now call "Jeru-SALEM" They were a tall and strong Black people and when the Caucasians saw them they called them "Giants". Infact, the original inhabitants of Italy and Greece were Black people known as Etruscans. So clearly Black isn't limited to Africa. and from my research, this name connects to a very early people during the Copper Age, that dominated 'the MIddle East' [ie. Jerusalem] and that came from MADAI-JAPHETH. From this civilization came people and civilization like; Japeth is also related to the Greco-Roman deity JUPITER. According to the myth, when Japeth and his family moved down from the Caucasus mountains into Greece...him and many of his offspring were deified as Greek gods and heros.

How much does it matter whether or not the young people killing eachother have actually pledged loyalty to a particular gang or not? Whether the young man dies from the bullets of a rival gangster's uzi, or from the bullets of an old rusty .32 fired by a jealous boyfriend......he's just as dead. And the deep seated motives behind the violence are still the same: -Low self esteem and hatred of self and those who look like self (which is why white women can walk their dogs and go jogging through the roughest neighborhoods in the the city and not worry about being attacked) -Drug and alcohol abuse -Entertainment (music, video games, ect...) that encourage reckless violence -Proliferation of guns among those not trained to respect and handle them The violence that's been going on in urban America for the past 30 years or so has deserved "state of emergency" status as far as I'm concerned.

There's a difference between speaking properly and articulately and speaking "White". To me Malcolm X embodied the proper sound of an eduated and articulate AfroAmerican man. Using proper English, speaking boldly and accurately, and having enough bass in his voice to command respect. Larry Elder is the OPPOSITE....with his high pitched whining. Troy I've heard you in a few interviews. You don't sound White to me, you sound like a typical professional Black man. Actually you seem a little shy....lol. Del Richard Pryor in concert does he sound white or black Although he WASN'T born and raised there, Richard Pryor sounds like most Black people I've met from California who were raised outside of south-central.....lol. He didn't sound exactly White, but he didn't use a lot of "ebonic" when he spoke although he most of his material revolved around the Black experience.

Ass Klown Alexander said: "To go one even better, from this moment forward I will ignore you and pretend you never existed, even if you insult/attack with all you have; I'll ignore you." Coming from an ADMITTED LIAR, we'll just have to wait to see if you're a man of your word. I know English is your SECOND language and you're still trying to learn and read it, but like I said in the other post. Ignoring eachother WILL NOT bring an end to this feud. Only you APOLOGIZING for what you said about my Mother and Father in the threads you insulted them in will. I dread asking, especially from you, but I grow from constructive criticism. Please elaborate. Fool you just TOLD on yourself in several posts in this thread: "I was immature and aimed to be deliberately vicious; surmising him vulnerable was easy to size him up based on his online demeanor, {two words deleted by administrator}. The same is true with brother Delano, he let on early of his sensitivity of comments as to his level of academic exposure, and I went for that jugular. " https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/5260-what-do-you-think-of-the-ongoing-battle-between-pionner1-and-kalexander2/ 　 　 You admitted what you like doing and WHY you like doing it quite articulately. Infact you've been admitting your various psychological hang-ups and your addiction to lying and antagonizing people for weeks now.....which was part of my plan to "expose" you. Why the hell do you need someone else to "elaborate" your own madness when you do such a great job of doing it yourself...lol. Cynique How do you know the caliber of Kalexander's enunciation? Can you hear him speak??? He has never begged me to converse with him, and others here converse with him just as much as they do you. You can't make points when your statements are inaccurate and subjective. You need to stop assuming that others share your opinion about Kalexander and that you are our spokesman. (This is what pushes me into Kalexander's corner. ) Well since Krazy Alexaner CLAIMS he'll ignore me from now on, that'll free up more time for you two to have more indepth conversations together. So... Sister Cynique....lol...if I'm wrong about my observations, we'll find out....LOL. 　 I'm sure everybody is glad you 2 have agreed to put a sock in your "debate". Nothing was accomplished by it, except that you both inadvertently revealed things about yourselves. I haven't "agreed" to a DAMN thing. It's the same now as I've said before. The only thing that will bring an end to this feud is when he APOLOGIZES for his insults of my Ancestors in the threads he insulted them in. If he packed up and LEFT this site, it STILL wouldn't resolve the problem.....only APOLOGIZING will.