Chevdove

Oh WOW! May the LORD Bless that man! Jesus Christ, that is always on my mind when I think about that precious girl, Sonya Massey. A person who does something like that is not human. That was a demon for sure.

I think that is a broad question and can be answered many ways. Women are very diverse and come from so many different cultures and therefore, they affected by their environment. But how women think and interact with males, although would also be based upon a cultural foundation, may have similar beliefs about men in general. I cannot speak for anyone else, but as for me, I am somewhat defensive and cautious against males. I also believe that the spirit of a male is ever present, even if there is not one physical nearby. I believe that the presence and historical aspect of males, set the tone for the whole world. Because, historically, men go to war and have that kind of history of having times where they have to be aggressive, therefore, it puts females like me, in a defensive mode. Because of my obsession studying about the nature of lions and I can obviously recognize that male lions, 'lions' have an extremely unique nature from female lions, lionesses, I believe that, in general, the human male nature, is probably unique apart from females, in some circumstances. So, for example, when my husband gets on my last nerve and become confused as to why he exhibits certain behaviors, sometimes I 'chalk-it-up-to' his male nature, and so, I just drop my anger and forego. I don't even try to make sense of it. Likewise, sometimes, if he tries to control me, I 'lose it' so-to-speak', and then he knows that he needs to leave off immediately. I also believe that I may be more defensive than other females because of my culture and being Black and a descendant of Slaves. However, now that I am older, I do think that females that know their fathers [unless their mothers are matriarchal] may have unique goals that causes them to not be as defensive as females that come from a single mother upbringing. A female that has a father may have goals that are not extremely based on 'getting even with men'.

"Strangely enough, you don't find any type of kinky or curly hair among Native Americans or East Asians. I can see the San people have nappy hair. I don't know much about East Asians, but the museums here in America are suspect. However, the few that I've been to, especially in Virginia show paintings and some show Natives with 'soft Afros' like my late father-in-law who was Native American. He had a soft Afro. And another tribe were depicted in some depictions that showed that some of them had, at the very least, combination hair type; the Mohawk of the Iroquois Confederation. And then my maternal ancestors, the Tuscarorans, were definitely 'watered down' but they were Negroes. America does not teach the truth, but they teach confusion. The American Indians had a major problem with Colorism even long before the Europeans came over here and it was really bad. Even though it has not been taught well, however, it is in the books that before they decided to enslave the Africans, Many American Indians were enslaved. And as Black Americans today, we should be able to realize that the kind of Indians we see in films with the straight hair, were not common on the slave plantations. It was not until very late that in places like Louisiana, I guess, where some slaves were heavily inter-mixed with European ancestry. My Great grandmother probably did have straight hair though, --she kept it tied back in a bun. But here is one very famous depiction of Tuscarorans, although this painting has been copied several times. Nevertheless, it should become obvious that, for the most part, they did NOT have straight hair. The Tuscarora War was the result of decades of settler encroachment on Tuscarora land. Other Native groups reinforced colonial forces in the war and took Tuscarora slaves back to their homelands. https://www.wunc.org/race-demographics/2019-10-08/unlearning-colonial-north-carolina

"Define this genetically speaking LOCKS that is exclusive to Black Africans? Coily means tightly curled as in LOCKS Kinky Frizzy wooly nappy springy bushy are all basically afro.....3a-4c" No hair that LOCKS does NOT coil. Yes, coily does mean curled and can be tightly coiled but that is completely different from hair that locks. All those terms you wrote, Kinky, frizzy, 'frizzly', wooly, nappy, bushy, and afro, and more terms too refer to hair that locks NOT curly though. On 8/11/2024 at 1:07 PM, frankster said: On 8/11/2024 at 12:37 AM, Chevdove said: This was my thesis in college. I studied different types of animal and human hair, etc. Congratulations....I respect the accomplishment Thank you much! On 8/11/2024 at 1:07 PM, frankster said: On 8/11/2024 at 12:37 AM, Chevdove said: It is the seal of the living God in the forehead [i.e. top of the head]. True...the Halo of Angels and the fully bloomed Crown Chakra Is this seal of the Living God exclusive to Africans with Afro Hair? Absolutely! I've seen depictions of angels painted with straight hair though, and they also have the halo painted around their heads. So, this too would be truth, in that 'not all angels have Afros'! On 8/11/2024 at 1:07 PM, frankster said: On 8/11/2024 at 12:37 AM, Chevdove said: Under a microscope African hair looks extremely unique in how it LOCKS and has angles. It does not coil, it locks. under a microscope....is that still phenotype? African Hair runs the spectrum from straight to coily....As African hair is the mother of all types of Human Hair. idk. I guess it would depend. If your are looking at an amoeba or a one cell organism, that wouldn't be defined as a phenotype or genes. Genes are located on chromosomes and there are several. Chromosomes are located within the nucleus, so a high powered microscope would be used... I need to 'remember'! LOL, or go pick up my books and review! Melanin 'cells', I think I am saying this correctly-- melanocytes are in skin cells and I had to take a course called 'Histology' to study different types of skin cells in humans and animals. I vaguely remember looking in microscopes and studying hair strands embedded in skin cells, at the root, or something like that. So, the color of hair, or phenotype, I don't remember. But when I was trained as an environmental scientist, I had to study different types of human hair and asbestos fibers, and animal fur, etc. and so, I guess that could be defined as phenotype. idk. So then, yes, there is many types of human hair and African hair varies, but 'it's not actually the mother of all types of human hair, but the 'father' of all original MODERN HUMAN HAIR.' The variation of hair type and hair color comes from females. Coily or curly hair stems from hybridization and the variation between straight hair and hair that locks would be wavy hair, curly hair [i.e. coily hair] and especially COMBINATION HAIR and this is due to polygenetics. Coily hair sort of looks like it wraps around or makes spirals, downward spirals, but hair that locks, looks so distinct under the microscope. It looks like it has 'angles' and it does not coil. It's jaggered and it's much thinner than straight or coily hair. AND it NAPS, meaning, it forms KNOTS. It does not tangle, but it knots up; it snatches up. AND what is also EXCLUSIVE to nappy, wooly, hair that locks, is that it's difficult to free up individual hair strands without certain types of oil, and one especially that will free up nappy hair from LOCKING is LANOLIN, oil that comes directly from LAMBS and is why LAMBS have always been associated with African people and the Biblical Hebrew Israelites. The ancient Cushites as well as all ancient Kemet are linked to the symbol of the Ram, or lamb for this reason--LAMB'S WOOL and LAMB OIL; lanolin-- because of that dominant African trait of having pre-dominantly woolly hair. But as you said, African people have varied hair type, nappy hair is just a dominant trait that goes back to the Original humans. One of my sons, had nappy hair when he was young, later, he lost all of his naps!!! I don't know what in the heck happened! I used to cornrow his hair, so I know!

@frankster That is very interesting! One of my ancestors, my Great-grandmother is from East Africa. She was a slave child. Another, my Great-grandfather was from India. He was light skinned though and was not a slave. Ethiopians, many of them over here keep telling my son that he looks Ethiopian. And many Arab people tell my son the same thing, that he looks either Egyptian or Ethiopian. So, I can relate to what you have said. Yes, we are all of African Descent, I agree but only when it comes to our male origins. I don't know the actual gene that has this allele for 'African hair' but, I am positive that geneticist do know. It would definitely be a specific gene. Yes, that is so true and that is why Geneticist would know the exact gene associated with 'African hair type' -- the type of hair that locks. In other words, they can see the gene association with the E1b1 groups and that their genes have that very gene expression that causes the phenotype of nappy hair, and then they can see other haplo groups and that they do not have that on their genes at all. So it's not only observation but, scientist can see the gene expression in association with the phenotype of Black African people that also have other dominant traits associated with people in Sub-Saharan Africa. So, they know that nappy hair will never be in certain other haplo groups due to mutations that have occurred. And obviously the degree and percentage of melanin a human expresses in their genetics is absolutely connected to this gene expression, even in albino people of African descent. Not when it comes to 'hair that locks'. That genetic trait is firmly attached to a certain degree of melanin and also certain other dominant genetic traits located on a certain gene. For example, a Black or dark sknned Aboriginal Australian versus another dark skinned Australian with an afro will show a distinction in their phenotype in certain ways. If a person has no thick lips, or no thick hips, or no rounded nose, etc. then, they will probably have no nappy hair. If a person has thick lips, thick hips, rounded nose, they can also have bone straight hair, but not the other way around. With no obvious traits that are predominant of most people of African descent then they will not have nappy hair because this trait is firmly attached to genes with certain predominant traits and a certain degree of melanin that you see in people of the African continent. Australian aboriginals, Boons, with nappy hair have distinct traits that can be seen versus the ones that have bone straight hair.

yes, I understand. I still think that she would say it even if her mother was 'Black'. But again, I do understand that we, as Black people, have had a serious problem with that kind of identity connection of connecting 'our skin color' and ethnicity to being beautiful--- or not.

Oops! "After or Post Kamala Harris will a Black Candidate be able to use their Black identity , real or advertised, like Obama or Kamala?" I did not respond to the poll because I don't know how to answer? I remember when Obama was campaigning and, it was such a confusion for me. In one sense, he was portrayed as 'a Black man' by Black people and probably many others as well. But then on the other hand, it seemed as though Obama himself did not want to be regarded as such. He seemed to want to be regarded as a leader that represented all Americans. So, did he portray himself in words as being a Black man? I am not sure. Many Black people voted for him for that reason, because he was Black. They voted for him because he was Black, from their viewpoint and Obama knew that. He knew that he was being viewed by the world as being the first 'black' president of the USA, however, he wanted to represent everyone. But I remember when Trayvon Martin was murdered, Obama associated himself with this young man. He mentioned how when he was young how people would lock their cars when they saw him walking, I think, he said that. So, Obama had to 'play both sides of the coin' so-to-speak, whether he wanted to or not. So the question for me is, did Obama want to use his Black identity before and/or after he became president? I don't know. I wonder if he went along with the 'black identity' propaganda while he campaigned and then afterwards, change his persona, and spoke against any connotations of him being Black. Likewise, does VP Harris speak at all about being Black now? Did she ever identify in her conversations as being Black or ethnic to gain the support of Black people? I do remember how it was broadcasted that she was Jamaican and that her smoking 'pot' was due to her Jamaican culture! But her father did not like that! But now, should she become president of USA, will she identify herself in conversation as being Black? Or will it be more highlighted that she is the first female president or both? I am more leaning towards her probably not identifying as being black, but that will not stop Black women from seeing her in that manner. I thinks she will represent a symbol for all women and so, White women and Asian women, etc. will view her as non-black, while Black women will view her as being Black. It is set up for her to play both sides [i.e. all-sides] of the coins, so-to-speak. I think it's like 'an intersectionality' and so, many Black Americans maybe misled to believe that things will change for the better. But just like what happened with Trayvon Martin being sacrificed during Obama's presidency and countless others, her becoming president may insight more problems for Black people. It may be like 'taking one step forward but two steps backwards'. *************************** So I guess the answer may revolve around how that 'Black candidate' is perceived 'racially'. If the candidate is light skinned or bi-racial, then, they will be viewed like Obama and VP Harris, but if the candidate is culturally a Black American DOS then, I guess they will still be viewed as 'Black'. So, if let's say, someone like Jesse Jackson were to become president, then although he is light skinned, people will still view him as Black. And he too, will probably still profess to be a Black man, imo, but yet a president for all.

KAMALA HARRIS looks Black IMO. Racially, her father is Jamaican and again, IMO, that makes her Black. Her mother is from India and I don't know if she defined herself as being 'Black' though. I read that her mother and father separated when she was five years old and that it was a bitter separation and so, her mother raised her as a single mother. Tough! So, my question is did Kamala identify as being Black American as she grew up? Did she fill out her racial category as being Black/African American in her early school years or what?

Yes! This is an absolute genetic trait that exclusively is attributed to people of African descent. The key genetic aspect of this trait would be that it will NEVER be separated from other dominant African traits. So far, in thousands of years, it has NOT occurred. Since GENES tend to travel in pairs, it has become obvious by observation that this trait of nappy hair is on a particular gene that is situated very close to another gene/allele that is a dominant trait that Africans tend to express. Therefore, this trait will never be separated and become an expression on any other human that has intermixed in such a way that their has been mutations that blocked out other typical African traits. CURLY or COILY HAIR anyone 'race' can express that trait, but NOT nappy hair. NAPPY HAIR or WOOLY HAIR genetically speaking is the only kind of hair that LOCKS. This was my thesis in college. I studied different types of animal and human hair, etc. It is the seal of the living God in the forehead [i.e. top of the head]. Under a microscope African hair looks extremely unique in how it LOCKS and has angles. It does not coil, it locks.

yes, this is so contentious. I just watched a documentary about a tour guide who showed that very issue that showed up on my channel. Absolutely agree. A person's culture, imo, should be part of how a person identifies.

I did not know that Jayne Kennedy was mixed race! At any rate, I think that you are very perceptive! I don't agree though, that just because Harris referred to her adoptive mother as beautiful translates to her being a beauty standard. I know though, that we African Americans do have that problem in our background. I am not sure how to answer that question.

Oh WOW! But it does seem like some violence has occurred.

That does sound strange. Maybe the media is not reporting everything. Again, maybe it's how the media has reported this incident. Maybe we as Black Americans do not view this, right away, as anything big enough to be rioting about. Nevertheless, I believe this is a big deal and over here, we are going to be dealing with similar conflicts eventually. Our government has an advantage over here. They have mis-educated us Black Americans, and so we do not recognize the inevitable conflict that will probably arise soon. By the time we realize what our government has done, economically, it will be too late to do anything about it. I think history will repeat unless a higher power intervenes. Oh wait! That is just it! That is just what I am referring to! Obviously, the citizens of the UK are up in arms about the immigration policy and the Muslims that are allowed to come to their country, but Black Americans have been dumbed down and mis-educated on the outcome of this kind of policy. African Americans have just voted in Obama twice and now Kamala Harris will probably become president and both of them are pushing an aggressive immigration policy, imo, and this policy will definitely force Black Americans down even farther than we already are economically. Most Black Americans are believing that these leaders are a representation of us and will help us have positive change from this oppressive government, but do not recognize that immigration is going to be the kind of policy that will be more important for immigrants. Right now, there are reports of thousands of Mexican immigrants being welcomed into our communities and probably many more ethnic immigrants are coming too, even from Africa. And Black Americans are being completely marginalized right now for this reason. The housing policy has changed and many Black Americans are being sidelined in that respect. As a result of housing immigrants, too, this government will have to give them jobs so that they can pay rent so, who do you think will be sidelined when it comes to jobs? Then after the jobs, comes the educational system that has to accommodate immigrants in the classroom, etc. I can't believe that African Americans cannot see this.

I think it is a little of both but because of so many real situations that have happened to us on a personal level, I think it is psychologically fear working. And this fear is 'real' meaning, it is so commonplace that when we do defend ourselves we oftentimes are harmed and no one 'black' comes to help on a large scale. It's gotta be a major incident like this one for a mass of Black Americans to respond. I am so proud though of the Black Americans that do respond but if this kind of response was done long before it comes to someone being murdered then, it would be so much better for our communities.

Black folks get emotional and upset about what happened. There may be a vigil, march or protest. The victim will end up on t-shirts. ... Well, we can do better than this, that's for sure. I just read a post by @frankster about a dark incident that may have something to do with being a premeditation and so, I believe that if the people in that town speak up, then this kind of confirmation would be a big help in sending a message to people that we should to better when a Black person tells you that they believe that they are dealing with a predator. When Sonya told some of her family that she felt that her life was in danger, then at least the males in her family should have offered to get together and go over to spend a few nights over her home or something. Obviously, she was telling the truth, so why did she continue to be left alone and the predators were given free range to come onto her property! They came into her house and took her life!!! I can't believe it! You know, males don't usually do that. Males don't usually attack a female like that, for nothing. If a male does something that evil, such as killing their own brother or another male, or etc. it is usually due to some evil female instigator. If this heinous crime was provoked, then that person needs to be prosecuted as well. ... If thou doest well, ... [7] If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him. GENESIS 4:7. Cain was guilty and he was evil, however, he was also provoked. That 'sin' was definitely someone else that helped to stoke things up. She or whoever it was lieth at his door. There was a person, an opportunist, that help to cause division between the brothers. Maybe it was a woman, and she was angry because she was passed over by the brother or, she set him up. It is difficult for me to believe that this awful death of Sonya Massey was random. It seems to me like it was premeditated and due to some act of retaliation. And what about the other police. Was he a patsy? Did he know that Grayson was that evil? He turned his camera on, but Grayson did not until after he shot Sonya and then told the other police not to administer first aid. He spoke profanity over Sonya while she was still breathing. Jesus Christ. God help us.

Wait ... What!? OMG!!! Well, if that is true, then the internet is surely doing a great job hiding the truth. BUT, yes, I did look diligently for this information and found some hints at perhaps hints of truth to what you have posted! It was his fiance' that is in question, not his wife. He is engaged to a woman named Isabel Butterfield. Some say that she was a RN, but she is a NP, Nurse Practitioner. And get this; Her father worked at the Sangamon department and it seems that he helped that killer, Sean Grayson, get hired! Isabel Butterfield's father is named Scott Butterfield and he worked in that very department for 30 years. Also, Sean Grayson's father was a navy seal named Sean Patrick Grayson Sr. and he just died in February 2024. Sean Grayson has a sister and four brothers. Anyway, there is only a few social sights that mention something of what you hinted about and one site is from a poster that says she lives in the area. Supposedly, Isabel Butterfield and Sonya Massey had a conflict!!! The conflict occurred earlier at a medical center. And Sonya Massey's car was damaged earlier and some report it was due to a female thta was in her yard. So Sonya called about a possible prowler, and it may have been 'a set up'! So instead of the internet posting about this possible connection, however, the spin doctors are trying to imply that Sonya was mentally ill and that her mother is confirming this lie. The New York Times reports that Sonya told her family days earlier that she believed that she was going to be murdered, and that may be due to this possible incident. Hopefully, if this is true, then the people that witness this will come forward and confirm.

Yes, I believe that you nailed it when you spoke about 'psychological fear that is still present today'. I believe that change will come, but I'm frustrated because I wish it would happen now but it seems that things are getting worse and no change seems to be around the corner. And, regarding men being providers and protectors, well again, we need to realize that this is the same government that began about 400 years ago, and the powers that be are still doing their best to prevent Black men from doing just that. Although laws have been passed that states Black people are now free, however, we are still in an uphill battle. In many regards Black people are still in captivity but made to believe in a false sense of security. It seems like we are always put into a position of defending our natural human rights. And so, imo, many of us are still in a status of being in captivity. But that does not mean though, that it will always be like this. For now though, we have to contend with the law and the legal process.

That is wrong though. Both genders should respect each other in relationships because it would build a better society. Also, even though the issue of slavery and White Supremacy is a reality and Black females were completely demoralized under this government, it does not mean that Black men have not disrespected Black women. In slavery, especially, Black men called 'Bucks' were encouraged to also rape Black females and this has absolutely affected us today negatively. This kind of disrespect that Black women have endured might be part of the reason some Black women have problems with relationships 'all around'. And regarding 'all White men', even though this may be hard to understand, nevertheless, there are other men, even white men, that view Black women as being attractive and worthy of building a loving relationship, merely because 'a real man is just that--a real man'. It's been my experience that a 'real man' will be attracted to females for various reasons, and a woman's race or color is a secondary issue. Attraction is initially a physical aspect and then other factors like a woman's culture and other attributes comes into awareness later. I think it is impossible to stop a Black man, White man, Hispanic man, etc. from seeing women from different cultures or ethnicities as being beautiful and the same goes for women.

True! Today, I believe it is good to look at the individual and determine if there is integrity, specifically, cultural integrity. If a Black person has integrity about their cultural identity then, their spouse should not be an hindrance. I don't know too much about Kamala Harris yet, but she seems to be a positive person. It does seem to be a lot of inter-racial relationships highlighted in media today. Black relationships and Black families have came under so much fire in America, so I understand your point @Pioneer1, but for now, Kamala Harris is in a crucial position to combat against Trump.

That is the problem! I never realized this! That is sad! I never even considered this but now, it makes me think back to the killing of George Floyd and I wondered why I did not read a lot of support from Africa. There were media coverage of several protest in countries all over the world, but I did not hear about much protesting from Africa, except maybe South Africa. Yes, @ProfD I believe that we Black women and Black children need support from Black men but I am somewhat pessimistic due to the long history of abuse since slavery times carried out in the presence of Black men. Racist need to pay a price much more than just paying the victims families. Kamala Harris has spoken out against this evil killing of Sonya and I believe that by her position of power, it would be good for us.

There's no shortage of this story. The internet has blown up, as it should. In this brief video, Sonya Massey's handsome son, Malachi, is interviewed and he does and awesome job.

Yes but, it would be good if it would be an act of war and not an act of Black men being killed off though. We need help from other countries too, like Africa or something. Black men here in America dealing with this by themselves would be like a mass suicide if they act by themselves. How would that help Black women and children? Is it my observation solely, or does [did] Sonya Massey, her daughter and her son have Native American traits? She looks part Native American IMO. And so, this also reminds me of how the Native American men came back from their buffalo hunt and saw the mass genocide of their women, Old folks and children and of whom had also been scalped. This caused the Blackfeet to become defeated.

Yes. Certainly. The internet has blown up with this evil murder of this Black mother.

Oh yes! And on this very point is the unbelievable murder of Sonya Massey!!! Why was that man allowed to even be employed as a police when there were several red flags!? I am so sad about this. I just read that the police initially lied and said to her family that she was killed by a neighbor, Her son said that he was told false stories. I am so relieved though, that the other police man turned his camera on because that is the only reason we know the truth!!! The death of this young mother will be on my heart for a long time. Why would a man be that evil against a female? I just don't understand.

My issue is about trust.