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[II] ] Hidden Behind Mockery: 
BLACK NAMES of Eurasia~ PECHENEG

During my research, I recently stumbled across this term that became described as ‘an EXONYM’ meaning a term that was used by others to describe a certain people in the past. However, after more research, I have come to discover much more truths about this term than what has been clearly written today and also, this term in its’ origin would not necessarily be an exonym altogether. But at some point, this term PECHENEG not only became altered but it also became demeaning and perhaps that would be why it is not a common word used today here in America in this sense.

When I looked farther into the history about this term too, my conclusions are that what has been provided today completely clouds the whole truth. The fashion in which this term has been defined becomes a challenge to even summarize in script to reveal the wider scope and I believe that it would take a step-by-step process to unfold the complete truth based on also, a timeline to be included. So my first approach in making a summary of what I have learned would be to briefly offer my conclusive findings and then present the educational statements and references and then by-and-by unravel the confusion that has been so seemingly meticulously woven into script so as to render this kind of history in the form of a Byzantine plot.

So first of all, let me conclude quickly on one of the most glaring points overlooked in the historical rendition offered on the internet sources. Even though the PECHENEGS are defined to originate in the east, however, that would be a major false statement to the highest degree and this part-truth reveals that in the very least, this part of academia has been a deliberate intent to mislead—someone. Yes, historical proof does place the PECHENEGS in the east, but that would only be part of the truth:

The Pechenegs or Patzinaks [4] were a semi-nomadic Turkic people

 from Central Asia speaking the Pecheneg language which belonged 

tothe Oghuz branch of Turkic language family. [3]

Three of the ruling clans of the Pechenegs were the Kankalis/Kangli….

… The Hungarian word for Pecheneg is beseny. [6] … 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pechenegs

That statement could not be farther from the truth in just about every aspect, based on what I have uncovered. Some sources will abruptly reveal that today, that would be the very name used for the EAST EUROPEAN BALKAN COUNTRY [ANCIENT GREEK LANDS] we know today as BOSNIA! Yes. So no, the origin of the Pechenegs would definitely not be Central Asia. That would be a complete lie and a well planned statement made by many a scholars in our Western Civilization. Another deliberate false report about the PECHENEGS [ie CUMANS] would be that they are a Sunni Muslim people in origin; this would be a part-truth. In short, for the Pechenegs that did live in Central Asia, especially Mongolia, they were driven eastwards at a much more distant time from the west. They are not originally from Central Asia, but they are a Western people in origin and this would be a well known but hidden fact by scholars today. In fact, everything the Pechenegs of the east did, actually defined them for who they really are in origin.

Their Oghuz description would be based on their being enslaved much farther east at one point in time. But the Oghuz Branch became known as the Western Branch as they eventually broke off from the other Oghuz Huns of the far east. In fact the history of the Pechenegs is so vast, it would take time to even unfold. Nevertheless, the real hidden aspect, one that has been kept completely hidden would be that they defined themselves in every aspect too, as Hebrew Israelites. Yes, the term ‘PECHENEG’ stems from the root name BECHEN [ie. Becher, Bacharites...] which is written in the Bible during the days of Moses for the tribe of Joseph. Not only does this term define the Oghuz Turks in Mongolia, but it was common in BOSNIA and the whole of the BALKANS [ex. the Church of the Order of the PECS in East Europe]. But Sssssh! That is suppose to be a secret, A BLACKOUT from the minds of Black African people today:

a TURKOMAN WOMAN [TURKUMAN-- CUMAN--PECHENEG, etc.] the Cuman-Kypchak Turks.

The Oghuz Turks of Central Asia that came to form the Western Branch and that eventually marched into Byzantine Turkey Anatolia defined themselves as THE TEN ARROWS which would be a direct correlation to THE TEN TRIBES of Israel in the Bible days with their headquarters in SAMARIA after they broke off from King Solomon's son, and who lived in the Middle East prior to their overthrow in the 660s BC byway of the Assyrian Empire. So therefore, further reading through all of the confusion will reveal these little details about the Pecheneg Turkic Oghuz Hun people of Mongolia who later became more defined by their relatives who later joined them. So even though the term they would also used to describe themselves has been extremely suppressed, it too may resurface and become as common of a description as it was during their domination over much of Mongolia up through the Crusades. 

The script today can’t avoid all of their history because they stormed west into Turkey and East Europe with a rage; ABRAHAM, but therefore, they are called THE SELJUK EMPIRE in our history books. But indeed, they called themselves by their more ancestral name. they would answer to THE KERAITE EMPIRE [ie. KARAITE, or BLACK] EMPIRE. They would be the very reason for the start of the Crusades. And yes, to say that they were defined as Muslims would be part truth, but the part that is left off, would be that they were varied due to hundreds of years of going into and out of captivity. And they did bond with their ABRAHAMITIC relatives, of ISLAM [ie. Ishmael & etc.]. Some of these Karaites remained of that religion while many of the Keraites became Christians. What’s the big deal? We still today, are confused about the true history that revolves around the Christian Movement, and that doesn’t make us non-African Americans. At any rate, to complete my brief summary now and to make it more binding, I will break down another deeply hidden aspect of the Pechenegs of the east and the West in East Europe. The founder of this Seljuk Empire, named SELJUK THE WARRIOR had four sons; namely, Moses, Israel, John and Michael and it would be from his sons sprung the Seljuk Turkish Empire. And from him came Alp Arslan. The symbolism of the great Alp Arslan who led a force of some say, a small force initially, of Hebrew Israelites, KARAITES, into Turkey Anatolia to fight against the massive Byzantine forces and the Crusaders was the same symbol used by the tribe of Judah in Biblical times and today in ETHIOPIA; THE LION; the Lion of the Tribe of Judah. That man was so mad about being attacked by the Crusaders that it was said he wore a white death shroud in front of his massive military force to inspire them to arms. The down side of this historical past though would be that it was definitely a Black-on-Black conflict as it was in the distant Trojan War in the same country--ARMAGEDDON. Yes, the Varangian guards were amongst the Byzantines and many other kinds of people were on both sides, but it was definitely a Black-on-Black aggression; like the Biblical King David versus the Philistines. Unfortunately, we are many times all somewhat related but yet, we fight for the cause of someone else’s interest. 

The Byzantines were in conflict over the Catholic idols and the Seljuk Turks were in conflict, still over their stance in who Jesus really was when he walked the earth. And all the while, they were being scripted, the spellings of their names altered so as to wipe them out of history. The name of Moses became Musa, Michael became Mikel, John or Jonah became Yunus, and another common name amongst these Seljuks was Solomon which became Suleiman, and Israel became Izrail. LOL. Meanwhile, many of us over hear on the other side of the waters don’t even believe the Israelites even existed… mission to deceive accomplished. Nevertheless, the Seljuk Empire was for real! --- until that is, Daniel’s prophecy about ‘the abomination of desolation became a reality’. Then the Black African men, whether they were Muslim, Saracens, Huns, or Seljuks, or called themselves Karaites, Cumans, or Pechenegs; their dead bodies were piled up in heaps as fallen victims of the cannons. – Cannons, though, were mostly used byway of their lighter skinned Hebrew Israelite brothers, tricked and deceived into being on the other side of the cannons, on the other side of the deception and on the frontlines in the Genocidal attempt to wipe the Black men off the map. – THE GOLDEN HORDE. Kip Kip Kip…. Kipchaks… Oh there is so much more hidden history to be resurfaced!

Seljuk (Warlord)
... In 985, the Seljuq clan split off from the bulk of 
the Tokuz-Oghuz, [1] a confederacy of nine clans long 
settled between the Aral and Caspian Seas. [2] ….

The names of his four sons—Mikail (Michael),

Israil (Israel), Musa (Moses), and Yunus (Jonah) –

suggest … According to some sources, Seljuk began his career 
as an officer in the Khazar army. [6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seljuk_(warlord)

*My Note: another Byzatine puzzle once unfolded will be obvious that the Khazarites were connected to the HAZARS of the ancient

Assyrian Empire... absolutely nothing to do with Father Abrahams people! LOL! They spoke completely different dialects in the Crimea.

Okay. It's time for me to publish... smh. 

Alp Arslan

4 hours ago, Cynique said:

Tunnel vision sets people up for frustration.  Look at the big picture.  The black minority does not have a monopoly on dysfunctional relationships. The white divorce rate in this country proves that.  

Yes. Okay, so I think I have a case of tunnel vision.

4 hours ago, Delano said:

Can you tell me or describe an abuse that you personally feel would be beneficial for you to undergo. 

no. but on a personal note, having endured forms of abuse, however, I have become cautious and been able to let go and break from the abuser.

4 hours ago, Delano said:

Our social system is sociopathic it is built on agression domination and theft.

yes, I agree here.   

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

What's the "end game" of all this?

@Pioneer1 Maybe that is the big question that Colin has responded to in his actions. Maybe he can see a bigger picture. I'm not sure either, but something strange 

is going on in America. I think there is some kind of movement going on and certain Black people and others too are being targeted.  In the long run, maybe Colin sees where the NFL may tie into something. There are a lot of Black men in this sport and well, maybe they may feel exploited too, as well paid pawns, while other Black men are being killed by police. The White House deals with economical issues and so, what about all of that money being passed around in the sports world? Just recently Will Smith starred in a film about how football players are being exploited and this too, seems like it was all a part of some movement from higher levels than just the movie making industry. This has become a legal issue. All of these cases about CTI or some kind of brain damage being downplayed are now a legal issue and a money issue and more. This system is crumbling and I think lawmakers are scrambling to try and make their fall a little easier at the expense of others. The NFL players maybe sensing something on these underlying levels and are connecting the dots, so to speak. 

Yes, I know I sound like a conspiracy theorist, but that is what I am thinking about. Right now, I just have a lot of questions, but they are loaded questions though. Something strange is going on in the world today, and not just in America. 

22 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Trying to live and get along in a society that wasn't designed by or for AfroAmericans forces too many of us to act outside of our nature and it leads to pathological relationships.

@Pioneer1 This is a very interesting observation and I agree.

22 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

It's true that many if not most Black men play a lot of games with women, however the reason is simple.....they want sex.

@Pioneer1 You have refreshed my memory! LOL. This is true. 

On 7/24/2018 at 6:34 PM, Delano said:

The  trix comment is not related to your statement. A post has to be somewhere and I have no control over where it goes. 

@DelanoOh, okay. Thank you for letting me know.

On 7/24/2018 at 6:34 PM, Delano said:

So do you think being abused is a strength? Does the abused feel strong and confident when getting abused? Does being abused improve the quality of a person's life? 

Well, like you said, this question would be in a certain context. Regarding some points in this thread in which some women go into abusive relationships even after they 'screen', this kind of abuse may seem like it is a weakness, but even in this regards, it can be subjective. But when a child, a young girl, is abused, that is a predator taking advantage of innocence. 

But here we go: When I think about your questions in lieu of this very thread, my mind goes directly to 'the innocent blonde syndrome'. Many times I heard stories of how some women 'play dumb' for a future gain. Some women have went into relationships just to advance their financial status and they submit to abuse, knowing that eventually, they intend to use it as a tool to get out of the relationship. That is a game that some women do play-- as you say, it is kind of like a whorish behavior. In this sense, it is a controlling situation. So yes, in this sense, 'Being abused does improve the person's quality of life' -- she walks away with perhaps, child support and a great percentage of the mans' paycheck for 18 years. 

But no, when a person submits to abuse, they wouldn't feel strong or confident, just hopeful that they will be able to endure. 

For many Black women of the older generation, I cringe when I think about some of the hell they went through. It's different for those kind of women coming after the slave experience. I don't know how they survived. Indeed, many of them didn't. I remember sitting at the table constantly hearing my relatives tell my cousins and I to get married, no matter what, in order to improve your status. They would say, it better to get 'a piece of a no good man than to not get married at all'. And so, as a result, I realize how they did become subjective to terribly abusive situations, that, unfortunately, they believe is the only way to live. And in turn, they too, play games but it is not that same as 'the dumb blonde syndrome'. 

On 7/24/2018 at 6:34 PM, Delano said:

I prefer to ask than assume people's reason or rational. I

Yes, but asking beyond what a person answers and offers initially, may be delving deeper amd searching for more underlying answers, and this can be a psychoanalysis process. Inquiring deeper into a person's initial response would be based on you wanting to go beyond what is offered, and that makes you a wise person. That speaks a lot of you, but that can be offensive too though. 

REST IN POWER... Thank You Jay Z & Beyonce

 The Trayvon Martin Story

Well, it was only just recently that the very 7-11 where this young teen, Trayvon Martin, visited before he was gunned down has been closed down. This story still grips me. I am so overwhelmed at the mere mention of his name. I am looking forward to this deput to occur on this upcoming July 30, 2018 of this documentary series. And even more strange is the circumstances of my own life in how it ties to this very story.

https://youtu.be/97sB1Xjvkok

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XfZ6aKhyfI

Last year, and because of being displaced due to a recent hurricane, I found myself in Missouri and one day as I was driving down Florissant ave, I just happened to turn into a parking lot that I later found out was the very QT convenience store that Michael Brown had went to just before he was gunned down. I couldn't believe it. But then, my life experienced another shock. My relative moved due to a job transfer to Central Florida, and to work in Orlando. Well it was only a few days later that he told me he finally found a nice apartment community about thirty minutes from his job and so, I googled to learn about the area. Then I made the call to him and said, do you know where you are in proximity? I then told him, that you live in Sanford, Florida. 

I then said, "Do you know about the history of Sanford?" ANd, he said, he had no idea. I then told him, that is the very area where Trayvon Martin was gunned down. He was in total disbelief! Soon, I relocated too and then found out that I lived only about five minutes from the very place where Trayvon was killed. And in the interim, I learned how to make a video and captured the very 7-11 store and then drove from there to the Retreat at Twin Lakes. But about three weeks later, I went to redo the video to make it better, and 'what-do-you-know' but the store was closed down! This occurred in the month of May 2018 and I'm wondering does this store closing have anything to do with Jay-Z's film debut or what? At any rate, I can't believe I am in Florida. In February 2012, I was living in North Carolina with no idea I'd ever be leaving my home. I needed to be in a better place, but this was not what I saw in my future! In all my life, I would have never believed that I would ever have money or be able to visit or live in Missouri or Florida! But to end up in the very places were these recent sad events have taken place in America is mind boggling for me. What am I doing here!!!?

On 7/21/2018 at 10:39 AM, Troy said:

he annual Zora! Festival which they host and that I plan to attend

Yes, that's interesting. 

Yes, I believe though that the museum is awesome and for me, an added dimension in my quest of knowlege.  I am so surprised to learn about this town. My relative works in Orlando and commonly spoke about Kissimee county, but I never knew about Eatonville and the kind of history it holds. I hear quite often, about a lot of police activity in this area. Now, I feel there may be a connection.

I see Eatonville on this map and can see now, how it is a part of Central Florida. 

On 7/22/2018 at 3:25 PM, Cynique said:

Plus, how people react or overreact  in these exchanges depends a lot on their personalities.

@Cynique Well said! 

Personality can get in the way of an honest debate-- honest and well needed debates that I believe need to take place in these times, debates that may lead to answers that we don't have today to solve some terrible problems going on in our society.

On 7/23/2018 at 2:15 PM, Troy said:

It is not too late for the 2018/19 season. 

NO, It's not too late. 

On 7/21/2018 at 1:56 AM, Delano said:

A defense mechanism is not a sign of strength. It's an internal weakness or insecurity. 

Hello @Delano-- I don't know if I agree with you completely here. If a person has been abused and don't defend themselves, I would think that would

be a sign of weakness. But if a person has been abused or exploited and puts up a fight or a defense, that may not be a sign of weakness, as I can see.

I do see a person having an 'internal weakness' though or a sense of insecurity about something even if it is a reality or a perceived notion.

The issue in this thread regard people who play games though and in this sense, it still may be a sincere for a defense and not just for trying 

to control someone. I think here is where I agree with Cynique in that @Cynique : 

On 7/23/2018 at 5:21 PM, Cynique said:

"there are no easy answers to questions that involve the human condition."    

LOL! Now see @Delano -- This is one sided! Are you implying that all 'Black' people or 'Black women' that play games are whores!?

Why would a whore need to put up a defense mechanism? I assume this comment is based on my statement as it comes directly after my post.

My definition of 'a whore' or specifically 'a Black Whore' is subjective. When I view Black women in this system, I always consider whether or not they came 

from a home where they had a father figure and a healthy environment in which she was allowed to be a child.  

On 7/21/2018 at 7:26 PM, Delano said:

Silly Rabbit Trixs are for whores

On 7/23/2018 at 3:03 AM, Cynique said:

I was married for 50 years to a man who accepted me for the way i was and who i appreciated for doing so. 

Wow! That is amazing! 

On 7/23/2018 at 3:03 AM, Cynique said:

But it shouldn't come as a surprise that i don't really give a damn what you think about me not delving into my psyche to find out why I am a bitch.  I am, who i am.  And i don't feel the need to prop up black men

Well alright! LOL!

On 7/19/2018 at 1:41 PM, Cynique said:

But in the big picture, strong people of any sex or race exert themselves either overtly or through passive aggression.   Hen pecked men come in all colors as do brow beaten women. 

@Cynique, @Pioneer1 So true. 

On 7/19/2018 at 1:41 PM, Cynique said:

Most of  the dysfunctional behavior among blacks stems from slavery when slaves took on whatever role the situation required and this frequently called for women to be the strong one because their menfolk were so beat-down. 

This is so true too, and today, for me, it is very frustrating. This process too, I believe led to a high percentage of Hen-pecked men in our culture, more than we want to admit. I learned through social media about 'the Watts Riot' and then saw some films and it was amazing to see how we evolved. Shortly after these times, came the obsession with the Peggy Lipton' look in the Mob squad. I never even watched that show, I was too young at the time, but somehow, I became rapped up in that propaganda. Black women became obsessed with relaxing their hair and Black men became obsessed with white women. So by the time I became a part of the dating scene, I found myself somewhat defensive at times when I was approached by Black men. I found myself in a dilemma; I wanted to be in the company of Black men but then, I was predjudice and defensive thinking, I was going to be exploited if I let down. I think some people may view me as being brow beaten, but I don't see myself that way at all. I am cautious. 

On 7/19/2018 at 1:36 PM, Pioneer1 said:

I know it's a defense mechanism

@Pioneer1That is exactly what it is!--a Defense Mechanism.

And, I don't have an answer yet as to why some women end up with a terrible relationship even after using this approach. I don't have an answer yet, but I am working on it, because I think it is an important question to answer!

This 'Gender conflict' between Black men and women definitely has something to do with the Movement of White Supremacy against our well being, but still, how do we move beyond this? 

I don't know, but I think that if Black women don't put up some kind of defense mechanism to cause Black men to slow their steps when they think they can just dominate us, then we will be destroyed! Some Black men are not genuine in their reasons for approaching Black women and sometimes they play too many games! 

On 7/19/2018 at 6:30 AM, Kalexander2 said:

But we mustn't buy into common conspiracy theories; simply because all the facts justify a theory doesn't mean there's some global conspiracy scheme for global domination.  Though we must admit, it is an interesting theory.

@Kalexander2Yes the theory is very interesting and also, I agree that the global aspect of conspiracies must also be regarded. Sometimes, it takes time to see how all of the issues mesh together on a global scale do pan out as a whole. 

@Troy Awesome picture! 

Yes, you have no idea how many times that I have asked someone questions about their homeland, and I ask them about certain histories I have read about, and they look at me as if I had two heads. 

Neither LA nor MS but South Carolina.

I am in Sanford, Fl. I actually live only about 7 minutes from where the late Trayvon Martin's father resided. Sanford is beautiful around the Seminole 

Town Center where I live. I love to also drive down Rinehart Rd to Lake Mary and, I love to drive down SR 46 to downtown Sanford's historic district.

You know, I read a little of the overview of Barracoon and I was so surprised that the slave cargo was around 1860. That would be after the 

Fugitive Slave law of 1850 and then almost before the Emancipation law. That is insane!

My Great grandmother came from cargo from EAst Africa and I believe this story is about cargo from West Africa in 1860. 

I have gotten the stories about her from my aunts, one of whom knew the slave girl/woman personally. This particular aunt is still living today.

She is in her nineties. She recants the stories as if she is sill living in that moment.  

On 7/19/2018 at 9:17 AM, Troy said:

Speaking of "Moors" I created a mug that I thought would attack interest but I never sold a single one:

Ha ha. I like this mug! 

20 hours ago, Troy said:

Bottom line, you can know a place simple by visiting.  You really need to do both.  If you visit a place and believe you know it without reading about it, I think you will simply be under-informed.

@Troy This is so true.

I just commented earlier in another post in that after living in Florida for a whole year, I never knew the history that surrounds Eatonville! It was only after I read about this that I have become even more enriched. Florida has so much more history than I could have ever imagined. I am simply stunned. I am a Navy Brat and have lived in many areas in the States, but I am so shocked to see only a small part of Florida, and now that I am here, I realize that there is no way that I can possibly take in all of the mjaor events that have taken place in this state. I've never seen anything like it in all of my life! I lived in Southern California and been to Hollywood, and well, IMO, Florida beats California by a much wider margin. Florida seems like 'a country to me' instead of a state in America. It is so varied. So, I agree that travelling gives a much deeper insight to a place but only if you read will you see more information. If you don't read, you will definitely be 'uninformed'. 

Furthermore though, I am the kind of person that can't ignore the down side of many places, and this has led me to not really care about travelling as a tourist to see different places. I'd rather watch a video, a documentary. The beautiful things you see in many places covers up a much bigger picture of economic oppressed areas and, the process in achieving these earthly paradises on earth are still there but ignored by most--I can't do that.

20 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Glad to see you back!

The information you're providing is so powerful and detailed, it reminds me of those giants they allegedly found in western China a while back.
They were said to have blond hair and white skin.

Are you suggesting that the particular giants that you're speaking off are descendants of what many Christian scholars refer to as "fallen angels" ????

@Pioneer1Thank you!!!

Absolutely!--although that would be a crude definition of a much bigger picture, in that these giants were "fallen angels", however, part of their genetics reveal that they

do not come from 'the modern mankind'--Homonids. Their presence, based on my understanding of research into Genetics, come from intermixing, however it was a specific kind of 'Selective Breeding' that led to their presence. 

On 7/13/2018 at 7:44 PM, Troy said:

I'm reading Barracoon now.  I actually visited Eatonville, last week, where Zora Neale Hurston (the author) is from. 

Wow that's interesting! I came to live in Central Florida last year as I am temporarily displaced and after reading this post and googling Eatonville, I am surprised to 

learn that it is about 30 minutes from my home! I didn't know Ms. Hurston was from Florida. In all my life, I never in a million years thought that I would ever have a chance to see Florida, in fact, I had mixed emotions about it being a part of 'the Deep South'. I also found out that Ray Charles was also a part of Florida too. I am definitely looking forward to 

reading Barracoon! 

This book would be the first time I have heard of someone, other than my own families' story,  being stolen from Africa and forced on a slave ship after the Brits ended the trade! 

@Pioneer1 I tried to make a comment weeks ago, but my comment was not posted due to what was a 'caching' problem that has now been fixed. I wanted to address this statement because of my research. In terms of the 'Blacks' you refer to that were originally in this region before the Caucasians invaded I agree. But in respect to the dates and times, I think there is so much more to this subject of giants. And the reason why I mention this is due to my study on 'Genetics' in terms of the presence of giants. For this reason, I do see a distinction in the kind of giants you refer to from other kinds of giants written about to have lived in this region. 

Even in the Bible, I see the science of 'giants' mentioned with a distinction with regards to Colorism.

The Bible details, even an Israelite man, who fits the very description you write about; SAUL.

Saul is described as being very tall and he is linked to the KISHITES of that region. This also makes a lot of sense due to a Biblical description of an intense Civil conflict in Israel that involved the tribe of Benjamin of which was Saul's tribe. After that conflict, the Benjamites were cut down to a small number, and these survivors intermixed with the Hamitic people in the region, and this DNA shows up in Saul. However, my understanding of the tall Black Ethiops in that region are not the same as the giants like GOLIATH of GATH. Based on my studies, the Bible was accurate in its' description of giants, but I recognize a distinction. The Gathite giant, Goliath had his origins in MYCENAE and this would be significant in his description as a giant. Not only that, but I also have a personal story that links to my understanding of the presence of 'giants' in their assocation with lighter skinned origins. The giant gene does not come from Black people in origin!

Therefore, I do agree with you in that the so-called 'Caucasians' have caused confusion in getting a better understanding of the truth when they migrated down into this land from the North [ie Northeast] and I see how their influence also was apart of the presence of the giants too.

On 7/2/2018 at 4:24 PM, Pioneer1 said:

It is my belief that the "giants" spoken of in the Bible is just the terms that Caucasians used for the earlier Black races that existed in those regions before they invaded.

On 6/30/2018 at 9:14 AM, Pioneer1 said:

That's what White Supremacy does.

It causes confusion and have people of color arguing among themselves over politics, religion, geography, and everything else.
Meanwhile the Caucasians who ORCHESTRATED IT and the terms being used aren't arguing over anything but which one of them gets the biggest share of the wealth and resources they're sucking from the land....lol.

@Pioneer1 Truth!

But because of being in a state of confusion is still why we should keep searching for the whole truth, and this will hopefully end our confusion. Even though sometimes

it may seem hard to debate, converse, or argue over issues that affect us as a whole, and yes, we as a whole may be mocked due to the conflicst that arise as a result of being confused, and in how we debate, however, how else will be gain truth? We have been lied to and exploited by White Supremacy and its' Movements for so long. And, some of the topics raised in this post regarding 'the Royals' seems so fitting on this wise. 

On 7/4/2018 at 6:52 AM, Kalexander2 said:

questions abound, for me, as to how such an effort effect Blacks, globally.  My question remains, could such a doctrine exist in today’s reality? 

This is interesting.

After reading over this post, I don't have any comments yet, about the published work, but in all that I've read, I am wondering too, where to Black people fit into this past mindset of workd domination!?

When I read further into the numbered points of 'protocol', never was the specific presence of Blacks mentioned! And, furthermore, the book is suppose to be the work of the Jews, with this modern word 're-definition' of Jews, and that to me is part of the scheme--tying in these modern Jews with the Original Jews. It's like defining African Americans under the likes of Kim Kardashian in the future and lumping all of us 'Negroes' under that kind of definition and making it appear that we would be in agreement with what ever notion the likes of those kind of 'new age African Americans' may cook up.

On 7/17/2018 at 1:48 PM, Cynique said:

ChevDov and Mel may put in appearances, opting to skip this debate, preferring to rhapsodize over such subjects as there being more Moors than previously thought.

LOL. Oh Geez...

This was too funny!

I am fading in and out too!-- But right now, I'm so busy I can't get back and chime in regulary, ... but I'm trying...

I'm gearing up... to post some more... about 'being more Moor than I thought!--- 

I can't be mad at ya... this is too funny.

2 hours ago, Troy said:

I know this is the reason people explode over minor slights.  People who live in nice neighborhoods have no clue what people who live in crime ridden ghettos have to deal with.  It is hard.

Yes, thank you!

You've spoken volumes. Some of the issues being raised here in this debate and conversation seem to correlate. Knowledge is power.

When a person has the opportunity to become educated and obtain a better quality of life, they have a better chance of making better 

decisions in times of conflict, but it still doesn't make them immune though, to lashing out.

And also, there are so many people that may never have a chance to live in a community where they don't feel constantly threatened. 

I didn't have to raise my kids as a single mother, but I feel so much passion for mothers who are in that situation and have to deal with 

gang violence. How do you protect your child? Jobs and opportunity are a benefit but after a person has been in a stressful environment

for a long time, they may still carry that defensive front with them and be aggressive to others for little or know justified reason. 

2 hours ago, Troy said:

How many Phd's do you think are in jail for assault?

Not many. 

I wonder though, isn't this conditioning? More specifically, I think some people are trained from young, conditioned to think before they react, but others are 

trained to defend themselves... from young and it may be a cultural issue too. As a teacher for middle school children, I came across situations several times

where young Black children will say that their parent told them not to back down, but other kinds of children react totally different if they are bullied.