Agree or Disagree?

[richardmurray]

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I know one thing though. See, what a sex toy can do, what a good vibrator can do , I don't know one man that can do that job? 

True that.

And that is just facts. You see that rhythm, that consistency that a vibrator has. No man can wiggle his tongue consistently like that , till you come.  Sometimes you know, when your doing with a man, he's getting the rhythm, he's getting the rhythm, and then your about to come and then he changes something. And, I am like, oh my goodness, get the fuck out of my face. 

If, If your partner, is giving you one on one and you've been taking it for years. And then the vibrator just goes like this [mechanical sound ] 

And your legs begin to shake like [ write what you will  in comments ]

You know. It takes you there in three seconds. What do I do with a man again? 

 

What a sex toy or vibrator can do, I don’t know one man that can do that job.

- Doyin pic.twitter.com/PmIOu3jd6u

— Dami’ Adenuga (@DAMIADENUGA) November 20, 2023

 

[Pioneer1]

I've been able to give women orgasms with my  joy-stick AND my fingers since highschool....lol.
Not sure what planet these women are from where they can't find men who give them orgasms.
They sound West Indian.
I heard then Jamaican dudes be putting it DOWN....lol....so I'm not sure what their experiences have been.

I'm not saying some women don't get off on vibrators.
Apparently they do.
But a vibrator doesn't have a man's voice, a man's body, or a man's smell.....all of that goes into pleasing a woman.

 

That's like a man claiming he doesn't need a woman, all he needs is a wet hole to slide in and out of.

I guess your hand will do if you don't have anything else, but most men prefer a woman if he can get one.
I would presume most women feel the same way.

[richardmurray]

  thank you for your comment: )  @Pioneer1

[Pioneer1]

Lol......where the ladies at?

If this was a White forum with a bunch of White women OR White men asking orgasm questions, you know these sistaz would have filled up the page by now.

Now this is the problem..........
And I'm not talking about this particular thread or site but in society in general.

You have 5 or 6 women who participate on this site.
Some more than others.
All AfroAmerican.

But let ONE White woman come on this thread and start talking about her sexual experiences, I bet the sistaz would be coming out of the woodwork with all types of comments.
Some would be good, others bad, others impersonal, others telling of their own personal experiences.
They could have done it before......why didn't they?


I've seen this time and time again in the work place, at school, etc....
A lot of sistaz don't value the company of or conversation with Black men and think it's a waste of time and energy UNLESS they see a White woman giving him the time of day and then all of a sudden it raises up all types of interest and emotions.
I've seen it over and over again.

On the flip side, I've seen the same thing with some sistaz....especially dark skinned ones.
Many of them are ignored by Black men....UNTIL we see one on the arms of a White man smiling and holding some mixed babies in her arms.
Then all of a sudden,
"Why they taking our chocolate queens like that????"
 

[richardmurray]

in terms of online discourse, I think the one thing I wish to add is offline discourse between black men side black women needs to improve. I think if offline discourse improved, online would.  @Pioneer1

[Pioneer1]

22 minutes ago, richardmurray said:

in terms of online discourse, I think the one thing I wish to add is offline discourse between black men side black women needs to improve. I think if offline discourse improved, online would.  @Pioneer1

 

MAJOR FACT!!!!

Also....
Another issue that contributes to the friction between dialog between AfroAmerican men and women....both online and offline....is how AfroAmerican men treat EACHOTHER.

Sure, a lot of sistaz may disagree and fight with eachother.
But most of the time when it comes to Black men being in the conversation....they form a united front to pretty much agree with and support eachother AGAINST the Black men in the discussion who don't share their interests.
I've seen this both in online and offline discussions.

On the other hand, most AfroAmerican men tend to either consciously or subconsciously tend to do the opposite.
They'll argue and fight with eachother infront of the sistaz as a form of competition to show who is dominant and stronger either physically or intellectually in order to impress them.  Usually using THEM as the subject to launch their argument from.
Too often AfroAmerican men will argue and fight with eachother over the treatment of our sistaz.
One will confront another over what he said to some sista or whether or not what he said was "appropriate" or did it sound like he was trying to have sex with them.
All of them want sex from the ladies but half of them will pretend NOT to....which causes more friction over the hypocrisy.

[Troy]

It seems to me that the physical act of bring about an orgasm can be achieved many ways by oneself, with a mechanical device, someone you've paid, a fuck buddy, or a loved one.  Each activity is different.  If makes little sense to me to compare a woman getting off with a vibrator to getting off with a loved one. 

 

The sistas in the video saying that no man can do what a vibrator can do are right, obviously. But a vibrator cannot make love to a woman -- at least not yet 

 

19 hours ago, richardmurray said:

I think the one thing I wish to add is offline discourse between black men side black women needs to improve.

 

I agree, but with the modern web controlled by profit driven algorithms this is largely impossible.  

 

I believe it is the other way around; if offline communication were better online communication might improve. 

 

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, Troy said:

The sistas in the video saying that no man can do what a vibrator can do are right, obviously. But a vibrator cannot make love to a woman -- at least not yet 

Well put.

 

They might be the s8xually selfish type of women a man would be better off avoiding anyway.

 

A man should ask himself the question If she's content pleasing herself with a mechanical device and/or toys how much effort is she really willing to put into satisfying him.

[richardmurray]

@Troy I said offline communication need to improve:) You skim by my posts don't you:) 

[Pioneer1]

And some women are just plain nymphos.....lol.
They never seem to get enough sex.

No matter how good a man is, she'll want more and more....from multiple men!

I've learned there is no sense in even TRYING to get involved with women like that.

 

Fred Sanford said:  Don't mess around with them, boy.

I'd rather try to JUGGLE a relationship with 3 "normal" women than get involved with just ONE nymphomaniac....lol.
 

 

 

 

richardmurray

Lol...I was wondering the same thing.

I had already read your post....
Then I read his post, which sounded like it was in agreement....but it read like it was in DISAGREEMENT....lol.
So I had to go back up and RE-READ your post....lol.
 

[Delano]

I guess if you don't have a

Sexual chemistry or vibe than a substitute is they way to go.

 

I think there is a certain dynamism when your not by yourself. It's like the difference between McDonald's and fine dining. You know what you get at Mickey Dee's. But you it can't compare to a good meal cooked with feeling.

 

It could be that some people see there partner as a sex toy. However I if you love or even lust your partner that's better than the mechanical. 

[richardmurray]

haha yes @Pioneer1 it's ok though, troy is busy , this is a nice time for him, and ic an be too verbose:) 

[Pioneer1]

There's something about having sex with a real person that doesn't seem to have a replacement.

Masturbation and watching pornography doesn't hit that spot for most people.
Better than nothing....but not like the real thing.

And especially with men....there is usually a sense of "accomplishment" from having sex with a woman you've been pursuing for a while.

It's instinctive and global too.
I've talked to men around the planet from different races and cultures and most of them share the same sentiments about the pride and satisfaction that comes from finally "getting" that woman you were going after.

This is why I can't knock polygamy.
I think it's natural for some if not most men at a certain point in their lives.

[ProfD]

43 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

There's something about having s8x with a real person that doesn't seem to have a replacement.

Yep. Considering 8 billion people on the planet and those who've left the rock; folks are still getting down regularly.

 

That's not counting the amount of f8cking folks have done and are doing that doesn't produce anything but a release.

 

43 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

This is why I can't knock polygamy.
I think it's natural for some if not most men at a certain point in their lives.

Polygamy is illegal and frowned upon in certain places but most men have had more than one woman in their lifetime and/or at the same time. Same goes for women.

 

Folks find a way to f8ck around the rules. 

[Troy]

On 11/26/2023 at 3:23 PM, richardmurray said:

I said offline communication need to improve:) You skim by my posts don't you:) 

 

My bad, but you know I'm posed/biased to express to disagreement   

 

 

 

[Cynique]

...men talking about the sexuality of women. smh.  Freud did this.  Even went so far as to deconstruct the female orgasm; something he, of course, never experienced. A classic example of male presumptuousness. And just another reason why communication between black men and women becomes blurred.  

 

Everybody has heard the old cliche  contending that "women give sex to get love and men give love to get sex".  This is true because what a woman really wants is the emotional intimacy and sensuality of sex. She doesn't necessarily need the verbal BS or the perspiration-tinged smell of stale cologne to arouse her.  She can get off on her ability to fantasize and let the skills of the somebody who lets his penis do the talking, temporarily transform him into the man of her dreams.       

 

And then there's the astute observation  that a woman's sex organ is her brain, not her vagina - which isn't even an organ, but an orfice.  If a man knows his way around a woman's body he's aware that all the erogenous zones lie in the areola, and the labia which are  just teeming with the potential for fire-works via the the Bartholian glands.  Clitoral climaxes come in second to the earth moving G-spot variety. Nor should foreplay to be overlooked,  Not every women has to be peeled off the ceiling to be satisfied. Being tenderly caressed and gently nipped can also thrill, all of which boils down to her sexuality being an extension of a female's individual personality. 

 

Vibrators are called sex toys and that's just what they are. Toys to facilitate recreational sex. They are not a replacement for males, they are an alternative to them. ( Less lascivious than the porn movies men resort to. )

 

In a study, when asked if they'd rather go shopping or have sex, more women actually said shopping, and when questioned as to whether they'd rather spend an evening at home, curled up in bed, watching TV instead of hangin' out in a singles bar, hoping to get lucky, they were evenly divided on their preference. Go figure.

 

Yea, every woman appreciates a good lay. But a lot of factors figure into it.  In the future Artificial intelligence may even become a factor, rearing its ugly head, making things hard.  

[Pioneer1]

            Sheeeeyit......

Maybe I should be careful of what I ask for.....lol.

[richardmurray]

@Cynique

many opined when a female will state something:) 

 

I enjoyed the following 

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 She doesn't necessarily need the verbal BS or the perspiration-tinged smell of stale cologne to arouse her. 

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  In the future Artificial intelligence may even become a factor, rearing its ugly head, making things hard.  

funny

 

The thing that inspired me to post was all the positions [ not needing a man, male inability, the greatness of sex toys] were stated by the women in the video.