MLK jr day is on the 19th in 2026

[richardmurray]

Do you know the date's range is from the 15th to the 21st of january? What are your thoughts on MLK jr's advocacy for Black Empowerment in the USA coexisting nonvilently alongside the empowerment of non blacks? In hindsight where did MLK jr , make mistakes?

 

[Pioneer1]

I think MLK is one of the greatest leaders AfroAmericans and this nation period has produced.
He was and is a brilliant and brave man.

If I had to name 2 things where I thought he went wrong.................

1. He focused too much on integration instead of empowered separation.
He should have fought for the laws to be changed at every level to make sure we had equal access and opportunity at every level in the United States and fight to make sure those laws were enforce.  Outside of that, the focus should have been on progressing our ethnicity and culture as AfroAmericans.

2. Him and the rest of the Civil Rights leaders at that time should have focused more on fighting STRICTLY for the rights of FBA/AfroAmericans and not other minority groups.
They should have been very specific about the Civil Rights bill making it for us alone.
Not that other groups shouldn't have rights in this nation, but that they should have been the ones to fight for it themselves....not rely on us to do the fighting.

The second one, it's really hard to blame on him because it's not something he could have really forseen.
He was taken from us in 1968 and we didn't get a mass influx of immigrants into this nation until the 70s and later, so he didn't realize....as most of the Civil Rights leaders didn't....that so many of these non-White immigrants who BENEFITED from the Civil Rights struggle would actually come here and side with White Americans.

[harry brown]

Does. It. Matter.   What.  Day.  It. Is.  ..Amazed.  That. The.  Idiot.  In. The.  White.  House.   Has. Not. Tried.  To.  Get. Rid. Of.  The.  Holiday.  ..Is. Terror.   Planned.  .For.   Dr.  King.  Holiday.  ?  ..WILL.., ,,TRASH.   TRUMP...  ICE.  TERRORIST.   Attack.   Black.  People.  On.     Dr.  King.  .Holiday.  ???.

[ProfD]

I have nothing but the deepest respect, admiration and appreciation for Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. (Dr. MLK Jr.).

 

I dare not criticize Dr. MLK Jr.s non-violent approach to the Civil Rights struggle. That  was his chosen tactic.  I'd imagine his religious beliefs played a part in it too.

 

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. at 39 years old accomplished more in his short lifetime than people who live twice as long. 

 

FBA/AfroAmericans and ALL Black people on the planet  owe a huge debt of gratitude to him. 

 

Thanks for everything Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. 

[richardmurray]

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@Pioneer1

first thank you for stating where you think he went wrong. of the three comments your the only one which means 33% I ponder how many black people are unwilling to question the likes of mlk jr in 2026 ? I have no way of getting a statistic but by this simple post the potential is frightening. 

I know I haven't spoken on your judgment but it's funny in this community we can bicker with each other so easily and then some of us in here can't speak a judgement against dead leaders. It is a revealing balance. 

Now you said you loved MLK jr so your critiques are not condemnations. Just assessments all should have in the future to any past. 

 

now to your critiques, 

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

He focused too much on integration instead of empowered separation.
He should have fought for the laws to be changed at every level to make sure we had equal access and opportunity at every level in the United States and fight to make sure those laws were enforce.  Outside of that, the focus should have been on progressing our ethnicity and culture as AfroAmericans.

Well what leaders talked before mlkjr talked about empowered separation? they were the exodusters[based on collective land ownership to make base black towns first, not black people owning land in white towns]+ the garveyites[based on business ownership initially, then geographic distance{far east asia is the farthest from western europe so the garveyites had a point about distance}]+booker t washington[black colleges which were extensions of the black education movement immediately started at the end of the war between the states]

MLK jr was born in 1929. By 1929 all the strongest empowered separation movements in the black populace had lost much of their momentum. None died, arguably none are dead, but their momentum wasn't what it was in the late 1800s. 

So MLK jr didn't have a reference growing up of empowered separation. The only reference he had was integration in various forms. From atlanta, to morehouse, to the greater georgia integration was the system about him. 

Could he had focused on empowered separation ? 100% yes. Would it been a bad choice? no idea, but it could had succeeded. Was an example around to compel him? no. He needed a successful example. MLK jr like most leaders is thoughtful. The reason something isn't present isn't because it can't work but because it will take more time or more effort to do.  

 

The usa government has a very big problem in terms of federal application, in equal access and opportunity. The power of states rights. It is the year 2026 and Schrumpt is the first president after circa two hundred and fifty years to try and actually impose the federal government on the states with the resources to actually do something.  Not merely cause of federal power but states in the usa are lower than they are ever been, all are welfare recipients. the original idea was states would never need the federal government. Andrew jackson, Abraham Lincoln, even FDR for all of their fervor, didn't have the means to actually make a federal imposition on the states like Schrumpft today. What does this mean? states got away with a lot of federal crimes within themselves, because the constitution clearly gives states freedom to be themselves and forces citizens to take a state to court for changes.  This is why white people burned black people out of the south, because by deleting our voting power, it meant we couldn't use the vote to change the states, we could only use the legal system which is very slow compared to a state wide elections. The constitution is clear, states are not to be ruled by the federal government, which means what. If you are black in mississippi, and white people have raped your wife, burned your children, put your elders in jail without due process or with laws that are uneven in design. If all the actions are finalized within the legal designs of the state of mississippi, you can only take missisppi to court over each action toward the supreme court. That is the only nonviolent solution in the usa for any person from a populace with a minority in a state. The black populace in misssisippi doesn't have the numbers to push people into government and get laws to support it by MLK jr's time. MLK jr was a pastor, third generation, of a black church. No black christian congregation in the 1900s would accept preaching about collective violence. Protecting oneself? 100% but being in a violent mob? no. 

So what your suggesting was doable by him, but he would had to stop being a preacher to do that. Because nonviolence in the usa means taking whomever your suing to the supreme court,a very lengthy process , one that is not guaranteed to get to the surpreme court, and one most importantly, that doesn't necessarily stop the person/entity being sued from continuing their actions. While the said black man in mississippi is suing, white people are harassing or worse constantly. 

Your top down is doable, but It isn't impossible. The NAACP was full of lawyers for that reason; their strategy was take every federal crime at the state levels to the supreme court. But so many crimes at the state level occurred. The volume was i argue insurmountable. 

 

MLK jr didn't spend enough time on the heritage/what is carried + culture/what is grown of DOSers. He clearly comprehended the importance, ala his plea to Nichelle Nichols. 

As an aside , I ponder your thoughts on the larger black church? from circa 1865 to 1965 arguably, the black churches in the usa, all denominations combined, are the center of black life. What hindered the churches from focusing on heritage+ culture? Chruches financed lawyers, got food together, helped make shelter, churches did many things, communally, but when it came to emboldening DOS heritage + culture they didn't do much. They didn't even make a book of negro spirituals standard in every black christians pocket. Cause, the negro spirituals is the earliest and purest black DOS christian liturgy or public work. Before black descended of enslaved christians had the bible they had negro spirituals.  Great point here. 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

. Him and the rest of the Civil Rights leaders at that time should have focused more on fighting STRICTLY for the rights of FBA/AfroAmericans and not other minority groups.
They should have been very specific about the Civil Rights bill making it for us alone.
Not that other groups shouldn't have rights in this nation, but that they should have been the ones to fight for it themselves....not rely on us to do the fighting.

Your second part slightly answers the last segment of the first. I argue that MLK jr and others , many others, wanted the culturee of the black descended of enslaved populace to be as shepards to a better usa for all peoples, this goes back to frederick douglass and the 1800s black church. they knew the heritage was of a people who survived white terror but I think their culture was as a people who made the integrated future nonviolently. and thus by 2026 would become the heritage. Which arguably it has. IF you look at media, most non blacks in the usa view black people as the integrators in the usa. More than anyone else. 

They made that choice. And it even has precedent. Remember, the first three black tribes when the usa was founded were: the enslaved black folks who are chained while whites in the usa are gaining freedom circa 85%,the black freemen who are trying to stop the usa, with the promise of freedom, which oddly enough, most of them get even though england lost circa 10%, and then the black separatist, fighting alongside whites who publicly supported black enslavement to whites, who would circa 90% be reenslaved at the end of the war. The black separatist were circa 5% of the percent of black folk. 

So the black folk who fought for the usa to be born circa july 4th is the historical precedent for the pan human rights fighting of the 1960s. Arguably, the black freemen have always existed, whether called black loyalist who also fought in the war of 1812 or black legions fighting in french colors in the commonly called world war one,  but during after the commonly called world war 2, that for black alone became very small as a movement in the usa.