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Doesn't make it false either. You don't seem to grasp how incredible the world being created in its totality 1 second after the big bang is. The idea of there being free will is just as possible as your belief.

But I believe that you are 'one-sided' here. Mel is NOT White, and therefore, her assessment as a Black woman can absolutely be trusted! LOL. Her interactions with White people and Black people and her experiences are a part of what is going on in this world today. You believe that she 'worships White men' and my problem with this is that you are using her personal experiences to make conclusions on a very wide subject. White Supremacy is real, and Black support of this issue is also real, but your comments based off of her experiences that she is sharing is what I am addressing. I can understand if you were to say, that her statements seem like 'this or that', but you are being judgmental of one person's experience. That is wrong. And because you are dong this, I am choosing to turn the tables on you, so that maybe you can understand my problem with your approach. So, I am using your reaction the media attention on that Black man, pastor, about Arriane Grande. @Pioneer1 You did not see anything wrong with that man's reaction, but yet, you are so judgmental against Black women in what they wear. That is a red flad, but you can't see it. Also, I brought out in this very thread, a story about Black young men dating non-Black girls for the Prom and neither you nor @Troy even paused!!! This is common here in America and goes all the way back, decades, to when I was in high school too. All of the popular guys took non-Black girls to the Prom and many of the popular Black girls did not go to the Prom because they had no dates! That is WHITE SUPREMACY! we all have issues here, both Black men and women and this is a conditioning, and a governmental issue. We all come to terms with issues about our government from different perspectives. What seems like worshiping White people might seem true to you, but it may not be that at all, regarding individuals. So, to form your opinions on an individual is not going to help the reality of White Supremacy at all. If every body Black only married Black people and if every body White only married White people, then that IMO would be a bigger problem. Interracial unions are beneficial to some extent but understanding where the line is drawn where it can be detrimential is the problem. But picking on an individual for choices they have taken is not going to solve the problem. I think it is important though, to here you views, but to attack someone you don't even know, does not help, but takes away from the conversation. That is what I believe. I understand that, in the bigger scheme, this is a problem. But when some Black women have been abused by Black men, and then are treated better by other kinds of men, then you are not hearing that part of it. You are not mirrorring the situation properly. We as Black people came to be in America where the White man has gotten the upper hand. So, if Black men are conditioned to be 'the Buck' on the slaveyard and are rewarded for raping Black girls, then it may be that some Black women come to hate Black men and see the White master as the top. This issue lingers. I don't understand how you can't see this as part of the problem too. If a White man comes along and builds a relationship with a Black girl who has been abused by Black men, then how can you not see this dynamic. White Supremacy is a big issue, and to pinpoint one persons' experience as the basis to say they are wrong for what ever reason is not going to help the cause at all. But too discuss other avenues may be a better way for us to grow as Americans altogether.

@Troy Really!? How so? I do not understand how having knowledge can be dangerous. Can you give an example. Also, I don't remember your caustion towards me. Now, this is crazy, especially regarding the very definition of Quantum Mechanics and theory. Why you even try to stop something that even you cannot explain, either way. Scientist theorize about this subject to a great extent, so how can you know for sure? As far as Xray in comparison to cell phone cameras, I don't know. NOt makeing comparisons, but regarding Xrays, this is amazing to me, because a picture is taken and then it is your skeleton that is clearly seen on a film. I have no idea if that has any relation to Quantum Mechanics but, that is just what I think about when this subject comes up. Yes! Cells and then atoms which are small dimensions and then electrons, protons and etc.; What a concept. I did not do very well in chemistry! But I am trying to understand because there is so much science in these small dimensions that scientist use today. That is interesting what you wrote about 'Fasting' and how it helps cells. Wow. I don't know how it works. But I will look into it. Thanks. @Pioneer1 LOL. That sounds kind of true! Some say that women mature at a faster rate than men. Oh No! I don't thinks so, @Pioneer1. NOt historically at all! For now, I am not quoting any sources but from what my memory tells me, the ancient Matriarchal Systems prove what you say to be completely wrong, when it comes to White people. It is only a recent conflict though, in which some White men have taken the lead and become dominant. White men, even if they are dominant still worship White women as being THE QUEEN BEE.

@Troy The emotion is ostracized but that’s too strong. This song feels like fraternizing and men bonding. While listening two images came to me - one was a scene from Lima where men were in a shopping district much like delancey street. They were sitting outside their retail shops chatting and more interested in their conversations to solve world affairs.. The other image is night life in sao paulo, brazil . Where men gather together at the restaurants. No women - just men. Now I’m going to see what this song is about

@Troy, then why did you write this? Who told you to dispute the concept of “free will” @Troy not ruling it out but what resonates is a level of vulnerability - that is more heart than head.

illuminating

how do you know that's not something you're telling yourself?

How do you know that this is not something you are telling yourself?

True, the communicative power is music is quite fascinating. Even music in a foreign language can faithfully communicate a sentiment, though this is a more personal experience and not as easily shared as a song with lyrucs you can understand. The following song is one i really enjoy. Without looking up and translating the lyrics what emotions does the song conjure? Mel I always communicate from the heart. 😉 But i think you mean i resonate more with you when i relate a personal story. Is that true? People are moved by stories. Facts and figures don't mean a thing without a good story behind it. If no story exists to explain something we craft a story. Actually @Mel Hopkins I no clue what yiu question means was grasping fir straws trying to answer it after a couple of tries Im afraid i cant answer your question. Yes, that is the idea I'm exploring. There is no free will. Free will is yet another story we tell ourselves. Again this is what im saying nothing is randon there is a cause and effect to everthing. We can know the future outcomes of everthing.

@Del LOL ...as i was saying, you and your delightfully quirky mind, are so much more preferable to have around than that slug, pioneer. 😄

okay Neo

No, Del, My Sweet, i don't respect Pioneer more than you or any other male on this board. i find him an obnoxious, deluded blow-hard. And the ridiculous statement he just made is one of the many reasons i have this low opinion of him. 😩

@Chevdove, interesting! Thank you for that perspective! Yes electromagnetic radiation (see electromagnetic spectrum: for more on light wavelengths) must pass through matter to capture the image of the skeleton! Yet, our crude method of this concept (x-rays) can cause cell damage leading to cancer. My dentist took extra precaution to protect mt thyroid when I worked as a flight attendant - he said i was already getting a large dose of radiation flying the friendly skies lol! This also reminds me of a documentary I watched where some biologists observed that fasting from food for several days even a week - causes the cells to change its structuee to protect from radiation damage ... after a observing the outcome on many patients they concluded the cells changes was a throwback from when we didn’t EAT all the dang time! It allowed us to survive with little food. The thing is it didn’t turn off - so today some believe our diseases are due to not periodically fasting for a few weeks - even a few days lol. But I digress. I also remembered from scripture, Jesus, as a human, did a lot of fasting... So maybe, he knew who to rearrange his physical make-up to move through matter without damaging his body’s building blocks (atoms/adam) smile... Thank you for sharing thought-provoking concepts! I see you have a book & blog in you! Have you ever thought about using the aalbc blog feature too!

@Cynique Dr. Welsing died in 2016 you two were only a couple of years apart. She was as intune with the times as you feel you are. Why diminish her poistion? I'm sure Welsing had strong opinions about the film Precious too and I doubt they were favorable. You know i witnessed the birth of hiphop. Indeed i was part of it i own the first few rap albums. I saw kool herc at the disco fever. I saw flash dj in community centers. I know what rap music is. It is always easy to find exceptions that buck a trend. Just because oprah has a billion dollars and Obama was president does not mean Black people are not struggling financially for structural problems in our economy due to greed and racism So there are a few good shows, in your opinion, on the boob tube; that does not negate the fact that Black people often get the big white awards and acclaim for showcasing dysfuntional behavior as entertainment.

Sure they did we all have choices. It is just, generally speaking our choices are selfish, but this is the culture. Here you make a distinction between different types of white folks, because you recognize their are differences. Black folks regardless of ethnicity or national origin are just "Black." This too is part of the culture. The first statement is true. The second is completely false. Are you suggesting that Jazz is or some other genre of Black is nearly as profitable as rap? This is what rappers and the folks who make money on them say. But it is no more true than the film Precious was art imitating life -- unless you are solely interested in presenting the most egregiously dysfunctional portion of Black people as if it was typical behavior. @Chevdove Frances Cress Welsing a student of Neely Fuller gets deep on the subject. While I don't agree with some of what she says, she makes a lot more sense that most women who the media gave a platform to today. Can you image a sister like Dr. Welsing being on a major talk show today? Her evisceration of Dr. William Shockley on Tony Brown's Show (video below) is awe inspiring.