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Correct on both accounts. People know who the bad seeds are in society way before they commit terrible crimes and/or murder. Family members and friends and police officers need to drop dimes on bad apples before they do something tragic. 😎

The good news is that I do not live in a tyrannical police state. The bad news is that n8gglets are killing folks with no regard for human life and committing other crimes. Road rage or looking at someone the wrong way should not end up in death. Respect for life and accountability across the board is totally necessary. Black folks need to demand both that n8gglets and police see fellow human beings and not a paper target at the gun range. Real life isn't a video game. Folks don't jump back up when they get shot, stabbed, choked out or beat up. 😎

Kenneth You're welcomed I see where you're headed with this, and more self-reliance can be a good thing. However. we can't be totally separated from white people and live in the US. It's not possible and most blacks don't want that. We want to preserve our culture, institutions, and neighborhoods. Yet we want opportunities in the mainstream like jobs, business opportunities, and a voice in democratic government. We don't have to be totally separate from White America anyway. We can BOTH integrated as well as have our own separate facilities and institutions at the same time. Look how Asians are well integrated into the medical and educational systems and are trying to make their way to the top of Western financial systems also....but they still have Koreatowns and Chinatowns as well as communicate with their respective nations back home and keep their own language and customs. Once again even in THIS instance..... No need to wind up trapped in a Catch-22 either being totally isolated or totally immersed. We can be both independent and integrated. I'm interested in what you mean by policing ourselves ? How would it be legal and not subject to corruption. I don't want to replace racism with tyranny in " blackface" either. Good question. One of the good things about the United States is we have the ABILITY....as difficult as it can be sometimes..to make our own laws and tailor fit them to our personal needs and desires as a community. Right now as an emergency measure, qualified Black cops who already exist would train other Black people to be officers to enforce already existant laws in mostly Black communities without the racism and blood-thirst that comes with having racist White cops patroling these areas. But to prevent the corruption you speak of, eventually we'd have to change the laws all together and tailor fit laws for OUR communities that serves us best to prevent crime and tyranny in the first place. Right now in many Black communities you have BOTH....excessive crime AND a tyrannical police state. You'd think under a police state where cops are all over the place and there are millions of laws preventing you from walking to one corner to the other without cops jumping out and threating to beat and kill you.....atleast crime would be low. But under the CURRENT police state...crime is getting hire and hire!! Figure that shit out.

In another thread @Mzuri wrote: Anyway, Merry Christmas to you all and your families!!! And stay safe everybody. 2022 is going to be GREAT! Whatever one chooses to celebrate or not, I hope that everyone is having a safe and happy holiday season. Looking for 2022 to be a better and brighter year for everyone. 😎

Tomorrow's. Christmas. Sermons. In. Black. Churches. Preachers ,Will. Not. Preach. There. Was. No. Miracle. Birth. No. Angels. Singing,No. Kings. Came. No. Halo. Above. His. Head. It. Wss. Not. A,Miracle. Birth. No. Drummer. Boy. Playing. Drums. There. Was. No,Conversation. With. A. Inn. Keeper. I. Read. This. Was. All. Made,Up. There. Was. Not. A. Miracle. Birth. ......Some. Believe. ,He,Jesus. Did. Not. Exist. ..Christianity. Was. Tortured. Forced. On,Our. Ancestors. ..There. Is. A. Book. Called. How. To. Make. A,Negro. Christian. The. Racist. White. Preacher. Told. The. Slave,Owners. Put. Christianity in. The. Minds Of. The. Slaves. ,,They,Can. Have. Them. Controlled. And. The Benefits. For. Them,Will. Flow. ..It. Has. By. Way. Of. Christianity. In. The Black,Church. .Bible. Was. Used. To. Justify. Slavery.....Black,Preachers. Are. As. Disgusting. As. Pimps , Crack,Sellers. Street. Thugs. ,Street. Gangs.....Christianity. Is. A,Slave. Chain. On. Black. People. And. The. Black,Community.....What. Is. The. Black. Christian. Image. Of. Their,Jesus. White. Baby. With. Blue. Eyes ,Blonde. Hair ???

************************************************************************************ Religion. Is. Man-Made. Created. By. The. Rulers. To. Keep. The. Peasants. In. Check. This. Was. Done. All. Over. The. World. People. Are. So. Gullible. ************************************************************************************

We must cooperate with police and stop calling it " snitching. " We need to realize that people who kill and rob along with drug kingpins need to be locked up. More importantly some of us deserve to be put to death for murder. That's not racist or class oppression. It's just a fact. This doesn't mean systemic racism or predator capitalism are not problems that we must address. However there has to be a balance between holding both individuals and society accountable. When it comes to racist cops especially those who unjustly kill blacks. The more of them who are prosecuted, convicted, and given long prison sentences will make things better. This might be more important than improved training or defunding. Prison time for bad cops sends a clear message of accountability, and no police officer wants to be put in jail.

I think @Pioneer1 is back from his self-imposed hiatus.😁 Glad to read you again bro. 😎

True that. 😁 In keeping with the teachings of NF Jr. and not necessarily to the contrary, I believe gatherings can be positive. It has to be controlled by the elders of the family and/or community. There was a time when more black men were looked up to and respected by their women and children and extended family and community. Case in point...my grandfathers were like EF Hutton. They were either admired or feared but always respected by everyone they knew. I'm definitely their grandson in every way.😁 Many factors go into the collapse and dysfunction of our families and communities. It takes a lot to rebuild but mainly comes down to men stepping up to the plate in a major way. We gotta control our n8gglets.😎

Prof D Lol...remember what our brother and mentor Neely Fuller Jr. said about niccaz "getting together". Get together and do what? Get together and start teaching and discussing???? Or get together and start arguing and fighting and letting the 9mm ring out...lol. "Listen.....we just trying to GET TOGETHER and enjoy Christmas at Disneyland so don't get up in MY face muthaf.....I'll whoop yo' asss all up IN here!" "Den tell yo' fat ass bitch to keep her damn mouth shut den!!!" "Nigga who you callin' a bitch?...I'll slap you AND the weave off that ho you wit!" "Bring it den mutha---- let's go!!!!" The BEST thing for niccaz to do when they are full of toxins and toxicity......is just stay the hell away from eachother, lol. Grab a good book or light up a Black-n-Mild and relax on the couch..lol A nice SAFE holiday.

My idea of a church is a meeting place to discuss problems and solutions. As I wrote in another thread, celebrating holidays should be a time for teaching and discussion as well. We definitely don't need to set aside special days to act a fool. That's already an ongoing thing. 😁😎

Yep. I'm not into the religious and/or commercialized aspects of holidays. For me, holidays are about family and friends gathering for food and fellowship. It's a great time for teaching and discussion instead of playing games and cussing.😁 Hopefully, any knowledge and information passed along during those gatherings will motivate folks to lead healthier and more prosperous lives daily. 😎

Thanks so much, I see where you're headed with this, and more self-reliance can be a good thing. However. we can't be totally separated from white people and live in the US. It's not possible and most blacks don't want that. We want to preserve our culture, institutions, and neighborhoods. Yet we want opportunities in the mainstream like jobs, business opportunities, and a voice in democratic government. I'm interested in what you mean by policing ourselves ? How would it be legal and not subject to corruption. I don't want to replace racism with tyranny in " blackface" either.

ProfD I knew these niggaz are still brainwashed the way so many of them are STILL celebrating pagan holidays even after their origins have been explained to them over and over again. Talking about they don't "celebrate" them....but just look at them as a time to spend time with their families. They don't fool me. Most of them have DYSFUNCTIONAL families that don't even qualify to be CALLED "families". They don't even qualify to be called Neely Fuller Jr. "care units".....because they don't care about eachother. Just looking for any excuse to be lazy and not work and lay around the crib smoking dope and getting drunk.

I wish the righteous of our people (AfroAmericans) peace and prosperity EVERY day. We don't need a special day to focus on or a government appointed day to celebrate and wish ourselves good will. If you had asked me 30 or even 20 years ago would so many Negroes STILL be celebrating Satan's holidays beyond 2012.....I would have looked at you sideways. I was SURE a "new day" had arrived and that all of that old corruption and tradition would have been cleared away by now. Pictures of niggaz standing outside of Target in the cold and snow and waiting to bum-rush the store as soon as the doors open and act a fool for "Black Friday". "Bitch get off my boots! Keep yo' ghetto ass at home if you don't know---WAIT---let me--- let me in the muthafu---HOLD ON HEFFER whatchoo tryna do!!!!" I was sure those days would be a distant memory by now. But this devil found a way to trick so many of our people into staying on the plantation (or in the matrix). Having said that...... I agree with you that I'm looking forward to 2022 being a much better year for our people than 2021 has been.

ProfD Facts. As I mentioned in another thread, where I grew up,, the police looked like us. The only time we feared the police is when we were in the wrong. Same as when and where I grew up. I grew up in a mostly Black city where most of the police officers, as well as the Chief of police was (and still is) Black. The cop situation in the neighborhood I grew up in was more like the Smitty-Hoppy characters on Sanford and Son...lol. Kenneth You're right in what you said. Black people shouldn't be forced into a catch-22. The solution to this dilema is to POLICE OURSELVES so we won't be limited in our choices. It's like a person who is forced to either pay three times the price for edible food....or get rotten poisonous foods for a cheaper more affordable price. If they'd grow and process THEIR OWN food for themselves, then they'd be completely delivered from that dilema all together. Most of our problems as a community come from being too dependant on Caucasians in the first place.

Nobody I have ever met is saying that police are racists for killing armed thugs or drug dealers in a shoot out. But these high profile police killings of blacks don't involve violent criminals threatening officers or anyone else. More importantly policies like stop and frisk along with routine verbal abuse and brutality are a constant problem with blacks and police. We just want police to do their jobs and not be racist. The same thing is true about prosecutors and courts. It's not too much to expect. The political right, mass media, and a lot of black people want us to make the false choice between policing and racial justice. They want us take whatever racist cops dish out in the name of public safety, but if we complain about abuse police disengage allowing violent criminals to menace the neighborhood. This is blackmail plain and simple. And when certain black people break the law, they realize the situation. Black people shouldn't be in a Catch 22 situation. I know people don't like me saying this because I'm like a broken record playing a song nobody really liked anyway - SELF HELP AND SELF CRITICISM ARE FINE EVEN NECESSARY BUT THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR STRUGGLE

Facts. As I mentioned in another thread, where I grew up,, the police looked like us. The only time we feared the police is when we were in the wrong. 😎

The scariest part of the indoctrination program is getting smart folks to buy into and spread it. If these n8gglets used that energy in a different way, black folks would be one of the most powerful forces on the planet. 😎

LaMont & All I'm addressing this not only to you but to the rest of the posters because as so often is the case, people come on here to rant and rave on ONE post as a guest...then disappear to be heard from no more. Time out for wasting time and energy on people who don't even bother sticking around to read the responses they get. I'm not sure when the police killings will "end" because not all of the killings are unjustified. However the majority of them clearly are. They'll slow down when AfroAmericans stop being so lazy and start taking more responsibility for protecting our own communities ourselves instead of sitting around on the porch smoking weed day and night and bullshitting while expecting White folks to come in and do it. If we don't like how Caucasians are keeping "law and order" in the hood.....and I certainly don't....then we need to get off our ass and do it OURSELVES. Take an example from the Nation of Islam where the men are trained to protect their meetings, temples, and families. Troy Man is that YOU with the AR aimed and the 9mm laid to the side with the clip emptied looking like Nino Brown????? You can get a brutha out of Harlem....but you can't get the Harlem out the brutha...lol

The White baby Jesus with blonde hair and blue eyes is part of a mass indoctrination that started centuries ago to trick the darker people of the world into worshipping the Caucasian race. When you see images of your "god" and "savior" looking like a White man....your subconscious automatically assumes that White people themselves are divine also and therefor deserved to be worshipped. That was the purpose of it. "Oh White Jesus...... Please bless James with a good job. Please keep J.J. out of jail. Please keep Michael from joining the Junior War Lords. And if you're gonna keep us in the projects..... Atleast keep the heat and lights on"

We must keep up the pressure and not give up. Whatever it takes to correct the situation. Let's talk about economic inequality in addition to crime prevention. We don't have to wait for the Federal Government or states. In many cities we have the political power to act. We must push so called " leaders " to act and deliver or replace them. There are too many politicians and activists who don't get anything good done especially for the poorest working -class blacks in urban areas. They're good for their cronies, big corporate interests, and developers. But they don't serve the masses.

…the last gun range i went to, one of patrons shot and killed soneone else at the range a few months earlier. I know that kind of thing rarely happens, but Y’all know i think access to guns should be extremely limited.

Yes I agree, yet it doesn't seem to be be stopping.

@Delano, It's the right thing to do. 😁 The gun range is a good place to unload several rounds. Nobody gets killed, injured or hurt. 😎

Why would they stop now?