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  1. Brotha @Pioneer1, don't know what inspired this moment of introspection but it's a good thing to do sometimes. To verbalize it takes courage.👏🏿 Your style of dialog/discussion is needed and valued here. As brotha Del mentioned, everyone is unique. I certainly appreciate everyone's contribution to this discussion forum. We can agree to disagree and still be cool like family. Continue to be yourself mayne. As Steve Arrington sang, "nobody can be you but you....". Dr. Dre said..."keep their heads ringing". 😎
  2. Disagreements are healthy so long as Honesty and Respect abides......Growth Happens Debating is fun....support for ideas we hold is Satisfying - which is fleeting I can tell you this about debating with racist....they tend to be full of insults of racial kind and personal attacks rarely anything substantial, meaningful or factual. After that they change their name and come at you again with the same thing from a different angle trying to ensnare you with your own words. Nobody is truly wrong....its just where they are on the learning curve - we learn more from our mistakes than our successes. True You are a little bit of both i suspect. I be li eve. Sounds like a typical life in the West Our life paths and experiences are different. You are a worthy opponent....
  3. My constant disagreements and even arguments with Cynique, Delano, frankster, and even Troy on occasion as well as a few others over the years has got me thinking about what the problem could be. While not knowing what's EXACTLY in other people's heads, I'm certain that they are SINCERE in their opinions and assertions...just as I tend to be with mine. As many of you can tell, I DO like debating from time to time....lol...but actually I'd rather agree with and have my ideas supported MOST of the time rather than constantly having to defend them. I'd rather save my debating and arguing for the racist Caucasians and dysfunctional Black people. However unlike a lot of argumentative people, I DO realize that "everybody" can't be wrong....lol. What I've observed over the years is if a person constantly finds themselves in disagreement with MOST people in given environment there are reasons for this. When you find PATTERNS of a certain thing, that tells you it's not random but usually has clearly identifiable causes. Most of the time (but not all) when someone is constantly disagreeing with everybody, either: a) They're trolling and just being disagreeable to stir up emotions and start discord. or b) Their thinking pattern is either "off" or not "normal" OR healthy but just "wired differently" than the majority of people for some reason and this affects their perspective and how they see things. Well I can tell you for a fact, I'm not trolling. Infact, I've been accused by both Cynique and Delano on MORE than one occasion of trying to "gather a following" of supporters behind me to be the next major Black leader....LOL So my thinking pattern is obviously different in many cases. Here's a few facts: 1. I was born and raised in the United State in a majority Black city and saw some of the same things many of you have seen growing up. 2. I have never been diagnosed with any mental illness nor put on any psychiatric medication that often affects one's thinking. 3. I have never used any hard drugs like cocaine or heroin to affect my brain and thinking abilities. 4. I'm over 50 years of age so I made it in this world so far with my line of thinking while a lot of "popular" people didn't even make it pass 20 years old. So the question is, why is my thinking pattern and the way I see the world so different than a lot of people? Why do I often meet with more DISagreement than agreement on subjects I think should be clear cut and dry? @Cynique and @Delano Both of you are WELCOMED to chime in if you like! Infact, I encourage it! Let us put the sour grapes to the side for a moment as I welcome CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. Infact, ANYBODY is welcomed to chime in if they like....I just mention those two because they are the ones I tend to disagree with the most.
  4. I have zero interest in this application — I'm not even curious about it. In a few years. if professionals tell me that Threads is a must-have I may look at it then, but I can't image that day coming. Twitter was always a relatively marginal social media platform. Heavily reliant on bot traffic and outrage... It is not clear how threads will gain relevance, in the long term, without doing the things people complained about Twitter doing. At some point, social media platforms will have to pay people, regular people, for engaging on the platform. Then there is Meta's increasing dominance. They have Facebook, Instagram, and Threads. A Meta App is probably installed on everyone's phone. This kind of dominance is bad.
  5. When you don't control anything thing this is what happens. The Black people who should have our collective attention are those who were targeted by the Conitelpro. You can be certain these brother and sisters were the "right" Black folks. For example, one minute Black Lives Matter, matters and the next minute it doesn't. It always ends up depending more upon market forces and the whims of the media rather than a positive impact on our people. I like to debate, but in the real world I don't get to do it very much. In the last few years, I've spent most of my free time with women and none of them like to debate -- at least not with me. They usually take it personally, shut down, or simply avoid the activity. I had a female friend years ago who used to like to debate and we'd sometime argue, but she never took it personally or too seriously to end our friendship. She used to say I was "incorrigible." I had to look up the word when she first called me that 🙂 She was a natural fighter, a female warrior. Online however, I'm more likely to challenge another's ideas, that I would in person. I think debating racists or dysfunctional Black people is largely a waste of time. These people are incorrigible. Back when @frankster debated the last racist who posted here, I found that valuable, not because I though the racist would change, but because the way he replied to each point would be valuable to those really interested in learning to understand our predicament. @Pioneer1 one thing I have noticed is that you do not seem to be willing to change your position -- I don't recall seeing it happen. When presented with compelling evidence you disparage it in one way or another, calling it the white man's science or something like that... Also, I would not take everything said here seriously. I don't recall the context of these statements, but you know people tease, say things for effect, exaggerate, and occasionally make ad hominem comments (not me of course 😉
  6. I had a friend who would purposely take the opposite position. He respected my intellect. So it was more of a contest than combat. My pleasure. Say this out loud and hear how it sounds I like to know stuff and figure things out. I have had enough experiences thinking I was right and I was not. I also had the experince of getting what I wanted ad it turned out not good. I have also had losses that turned out to be beneficial. No I have no idea. I can only know the value at the end of my life. I think a lot and I at times think about my thinking. So I am les concerned with others opinions. Unless they are flattering, those I enjoy I forget which philosopher said know thyself. Philosphy is good for thinking out of the box. Although it was created by the Devil (insert the proper emoji)
  7. @Pioneer1 I have no beef or grudge with you. I am no longer in the debating phase. I can't speak for Cynique or anyone else. I think abstractly and in concepts you think more concretely and in the practical. Disagreement is not the same as dislike at least it isn't for me. Your question shows self reflection. It is a question based on your experiences but the answer is not in your experience. Or rather the method of answering the question or finding a solution involves thinking in a way that is different. The first question is that your thinking is a product of you experiences and your internal states and personality. There isn't another person that is like you on the planet. This is true for everyone. The second question is is no longer a question if my response to your first question is true. The answer is in the question. You have already decided your answer is clear cut and dry. Most people believe they are right. In my experience people don't generally think they are wrong. You style is discussion is a bit combative. So you have already decided before the discussion that you are right. Then you aren't really having a discussion. Perhaps people may need to think they are right. Otherwise life could be overwhelming. It is better to have a false sense of security that a real existential dread of the future. Let me know if any of that isn't clear You have asked the most important question a person can ask themselves. Since it leads to a more objective sense of your self.

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