Cynique

Enter the straw man - or if you will, the straw woman argument. Attacking a situation that doesn't exist. One movie loosely based on factual events does not a collective consciousness make! Black women are not a gullible monolithic group who can or are being brainwashed into preferring each other's company while establishing a united front against abusive black males. Black women aren't being groomed to become lesbians any more than white or other ethnic women are. What does exist is this conspiracy mindset that prevents certain males from being able to wrap their brains around the idea that black femininity is not eliminated when sistas fight for their survival. Becoming a warrior is a role that is taken on out of necessity, not a transformation from one gender to another. All need be done is to look around at the pulsating population of black women flaunting their voluptuous bodies, sporting hair extensions and braids and wild wigs, batting the lavish false eyelashes that top off their expertly made up faces. They are who little black girls want to be like when the grow up, the same little black girls who will defend themselves against bullies, something they've learned from sistas who who will shoot or stab a nigga trying to harm them. The bottom line is that black women are flexible, something they have learned to be out of necessity. The strong will that motivates them to go into warrior mode comes from the same well of soulfulness that makes them provocative temptresses - and baby mamas.

This from someone who NEVER hesitates to add his 2 cents to EVERY thread on this board, apparently under the impression that folks are holding their breaths, anxiously awaiting to hear what he has to say, which is usually comparable to the of emissions of a gas bag. If you want to silence me, stop assuming the role of spokesman for black woman! You understand mothing. Not wanting to share my sexual history with strange men has nothing to do with embarrassment. And your thinking this says more about you than me. At my age, I don't even remember when I had my first orgasm, and it's not the big deal males think it is because with women the journey is just as important as the destination.

When you reach the level that you can "express beyond words", then you have merged with the Universe and your work on earth is done... don't sweat the small stuff. I sometimes wish that I could've - or would've been more of a participant rather than a witness to all the racial strife that has happened during my life time. Contrary to what some may believe, my atypical black experience spared me a lot of the misery that befell others of my race. I am now nothing more than the "great empathizer". Strive to be proud of any injustices you can dispel. I have not earned this homage. I wish you love.

Time is just a concept wherein members of certain population groups all synchronize clocks to avoid confusion and chaos. What purpose does it serve to deconstruct what is simply a matter of coordinating what has happened and anticipating what is to come. Let it be, let it be. Living is the pause between heart beats.. .

@Pioneer1Not "funny" more like "false" - opinionated drivel about a subject you are unqualified to speak about, as usual, particularly when it comes to black millennial females who wouldn't give an old fart like you the time of day unless you wanted to pay for them to demonstrate how freaky they are. And, of course it would never occur to you that any black woman would be reluctant to discuss on a public forum what she truly does behind closed doors. Save your insipid comments for a subject you have experience with - like the quickest way to inflate a blow-up doll.

@Pioneer1You don't know shit. Your inability to accept rejection drives you to create scenarios where you imagine you are a winner instead the obnoxious loser that you are. EU

How could anybody who appreciates the late Dr. Frances Cress Welsing condemn a movie about black female warriors when Welsing was always on the attack, with her strident messages, a modern day version of the ferocious Harriet Tubman who was the role model for the likes of Rosa Parks and Fannie Lou Hammer and Angela Davis, all variants of the female militants who were in the vanguard of the black struggle - all members of the female warrior sisterhood who embody the disapproval of Pioneer. He's the guy who is always so busy salivating over the bodies of female athletes that he can't appreciate their skills and talents. The same person who proposes that black females only have sex with black males, then gives the OK for womanizing black studs to have sex with partners of any race. The same chauvinistic dude who apparently equates female independence with masculinity, as he points fingers at the invisible culprits he insists are manipulating black women to be what they already are. Even more dubious is the conclusion that Pioneer's love for black folks is what motivates his bad mouthing them. The only black folks Pioneer loves are those who conform to his quirky opinions about how "Afro-Americans" should conduct themselves, even suggesting that this site adopt an elitist format geared exclusively to input from black intellectuals, kicking those who aren't smart enough to the curb. Thank goodness for Troy who reduced Pioneer's obstinacy to absurdness when it came to the Woman King movie, in the process exposing why Pioneer has no credentials nor achievements to qualify him as a liaison to the "sista nation". As for Neely Fuller, i know absolutely nothing about him, but I do know that a while back I posted an essay about the authenticity of white supremacy, and suggested that black survival has a lot to do with figuring out how to "get in where you fit in'. He and I are possibly connected by being members of the same generation as were Frances and I; pragmatic in our approach to coping. Meanwhile, I continue to get nothing but good reports from those who have seen the Woman King, movie. To Mel I say, keep taking the battle to your foes, my brave warrior Princess!

@ProfDThank you. Chauvinistic men vex me trying to deconstruct women, - creatures whom they don't know "jack" about! Years ago, Freud had the nerve to describe what a female orgasm was all about. Today, these types are in the forefront of the phony, hypocritical right-to-life movement, wanting to tell women what they can do with their bodies. Every woman has an "inner warrior" she can summon when the occasion calls for it. Every straight woman also has a soft feminine side that the right "Alpha Male" can bring out in her. Black women don't need to be manipulated into to becoming belligerent. This is how they naturally react to the bullies and wussies among their men folk. Secure men who step up and take charge don't have to worry about women warriors emasculating them. BTW, in interviews, Viola Davis revealed that she was the one with an ulterior motive when it came to this movie. She wanted to showcase dark-skinned African American women as something other than "rejects". In the pubic sector, It doesn't seem to the ever-vigilant lurkers that people in general, and black women in particular, are capable of acting on their own when it comes to surviving in the world, and that their behavior doesn't necessarily have to be choreographed by secret conspirators. But the hyper suspicious types aren't satisfied unless they're concocting theories that cast others as dummies who have to be warned by people like themselves who are "too smart to be fooled". They can't conceive of the idea that sometimes, "life just do what it do".

@ProfDThe Conservative homophobic Supreme Court has the power to reverse gay marriages being legal. Doing so tops its agenda, thanks to the homophobic Evangelical community.

Does this mean that allowing homosexuals to exist is a matter of tolerating them, and that not allowing them to exist is understandable? i'm sure there are many white people who tolerate black people but wish they didn't have to. Homophobia is on a par with racism. Why are homosexuals a threat to heterosexuals? What would they have to gain by eliminating heterosexuality. Just curious because gays are not people who impact on my life at all.

This is debatable. A person has to have a brain-wired predisposition toward a different gender in order to ignore his genitals.

All i need to do is survey the world we live in and - rest my case.

Homosexuals haven't just ascend to positions of power by a fluke. They've acquired their growing influence because they are a brilliant, skilled, creative branch of the human species who don't have to flex their muscles to be effective. The "good" news is that a male is either gay or he's not gay, All these guys feeling threatened by gay brainwashing, apparently think they're the only ones who know what they really are. An egotistical assumption. If homosexuality is something that ascends to a dominate status, then it is not an unnatural state. It is the next stage in the evolution of homo sapiens, something akin to the transitioning of brutes trudging on all fours into humanoids walking upright on 2 legs. Change is inevitable. (Me, I'm trying to acquire an appreciation for the current trend of baldheaded men with bushy faces. )

Children do have to be socialized and taught to share and get along with others because they are born totally self centered. That 's what kindergarten is supposed to do; teach kids to get along with their peers. The failure to totally repress the spoiled, selfish "inner child" is a contributing factor to the eternal conflict between humans. Couple that with the irrepressible male ego - and the rest is history.

@ProfDin conclusions, let me announce that divorcing the black "race" doesn't mean I 'm looking to hook up with the white community. i've just transcended race in general because, before they are anything else, people are humans and, as such, are flawed. What African-Americans really want is a role reversal; to be able to get even with whites whom they hold in different degrees of contempt. Were blacks on top, there would still be a race problem This is a world where there will always be conflict, greed and a quest for power and control. I simply want to tread my own path on my way to oblivion - or whatever, and I wish you well! "If you don't know, now you know."

You aren't a "classical" liberal. You're a self absorbed Libertarian. Yeah, because the alternate that Republicans are offering isn't a solution either - unless becoming a fascistic, evangelical bigot is your idea of being a success.

There is nothing "secret" about the agenda that 95 percent of black folks think they are set to be the victims of. Don't ask for specifics. Just accept their belief that the ubiquitous "THEY" are out to control and manipulate them.

Nothing is ever accepted at its face value any more. "The Woman K I N G" can't just be a movie based on historical events that should be shared with the world. Instead it has to be relegated to something sinister; always a plot, a conspiracy, a scheme that embodies the ulterior motives of "THEY". Above all, - fuel for the insidious paranoia that permeates the mindset of those convinced they've "got it all figured out".

As i said at the beginning of my essay, i have divorced the black race. So none of the comments or opinions about its destiny really make a difference to me. i might add that i've never felt more liberated in my life. In the time i have left on this earth, I will revel in not giving a damn. I exhale. .

@ProfDI agree! I also like Discovery ID because I'm a true crime buff. For amusement, I watch Family Feud, a showcase of America at its most stupid best. A stunning example of how being accomplished has little to do with being able to think on your feet. It is the anti-thesis of Jeopardy! which rewards your quick reflexes and broad scope of knowledge, including trivia. ( I've been a fan of it for as long as it's been on the air.) @DelRight, Everybody just assumes aliens would look white, and be devious - a testament to the black mind-set.

@DelSo? My TV is always on. It is the background of my daily routine. I watch whatever captures my attention, grateful for my remote control, glad that that so many programs are provided for me to either look at or bypass. it is also the source of any type of music i want to hear. For senior citizens like me, it is our "window to the world", along with the smart phones everyone else is so attached to. Best of all, these devices can be instantly silenced by the press of my thumb.

@ProfD i assume you also watch the Science channel. Lotta interesting stuff about UFOs there, too. @DelThe point is, that aliens could've visited earth and influenced and advanced different cultures. What color the earthlings were is incidental - except, of course, to those fixated on racism!

@Troy Ok, babe. have it your way. In the future i will try and remember that you don't have a problem with "nonsense".

Leave it to black folks to inject racism into every subject, jumping to conclusions, invoking the same ol tired preconceived notions, seeing things that aren't there, never acknowledging that implicit in these theories is that aliens could've been who influenced or reproduced with whomever you claim originated EVERYTHING. And just for the record, pyramids were found in places other than Egypt; in South America, for instance. Nor did the people who built the pyramids in Egypt look typically negroid in the way they represented themselves in their art and hieroglyphics. They look mixed with something else. i guess i didn't make myself clear that others not liking the "Ancient Alien" series was something that would make a difference to me. So i'll emphasize that I couldn't care less about your impressions of, or opinions on this series. Your criticism just intensifies my interest in this program. Now return to your huddle and resume your moaning and bitchin about "da white man".

@TroyWe never see ourselves as others see us. I based my opinion on how impatient you are with what you consider frivolous or trivial things. That's why you hardly watch anything on TV except NET channels or documentaries. You aren't a fan of sit-coms or even dramatic series. You seem to despise pop culture and have no curiosity about celebrities. You distrust the internet, particularly social media. Your first impulse is to be wary of anything that smacks of racism or the powers that be. i'm not saying anything is wrong with this. This descsribes a lot of people. To me, that's just how you roll. and I consider that as beingno-nonsense and serious. I don't regard you a "laid-back guy". @Troy i don't know. Do people who claim this have ulterior motives? Hillary did win the popular vote so she probably drew a lot of support from social media. Bernie die-hards who deserted her, along with suburban white women voting with their husbands, and the foibles of the electoral college were among the many factors that influenced the outcome of the 2016 election.