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Azacotogan What you don't seem to see is that if I have to "provide evidence" of African concepts to an "African" then it is already a lost proposition. ....and most of our people are lost. The fact that most Africans in the West are "lost" to the knowledge of not only their own culture and spirituality but indeed THEMSELVES should be enough reason to readily provide valuable knowledge to any African who sincerely enquires. I am an African, not black, as you called yourself. There's HUGE difference from a psychological perspective. You're new to this site. If you stick around a while you'll realize that I actually DO call myself an African. I just use the term "Black" in conversation with many people to avoid confusion because despite it being an innaccurate term, it is the most commonly understood term for our people in English speaking society. But it's clear now you're not going to get it. Maybe not now....... I used karma as a reference because most have a general idea of it but not because the two are parallel Kind of like how I use the terms "African" and "Black". Where are you getting information from? There is no African culture that I know of that has this stance on these things. It certainly isn't like that in Vodun. You are just speculating. There is so much more to these things in Vodun but you write as though you have it all figured out. Smh. But you are focusing on karma. The article is about salawa Exactly what part of my statement that you are commenting on is false or inaccurate? You think that I have to share certain experiences I've had with you as strong evidence that what I'm saying is correct? No, you don't "have" to. But it would be nice. You come on here and promote your spiritual concepts yet refuse to share key aspects of the spiritual abilities you should be receiving from it. Anybody who is able bodied can just "go through the motions" but how do we KNOW that what we practice is truly spiritually transforming if it doesn't bring you face to face with THE spiritual kingdom? Are you serious? Yes, show me the money. That's your criteria? Part of it. That could easily be made up. I could tell you anything and you would have no way of truly knowing if what I'm telling you is the truth. However I've dealt with spirituality and spiritual people enough to recognize whether or not your experiences share the same patterns with those who ARE legitimate.....which would lend more credibility to your claims. 　 Not clear what you're referring to but in general if an African refers to themselves as any kind of american then caucasians have succeeded in conquering their Ori African is a race, American is a nationality....the two can easily be reconciled.

　 Kareem They literally encourage begging for government jobs in lieu of black entrepreneurship and business ownership. I feel you there. It's getting to the point that every day I find myself day dreaming about leading all of the AfroAmericans off of the place I currently work at and like the Haitian Revolution...have some sort of large ceremony and make a PACT among eachother to never work for Caucasians again and instead create our own businesses. Most AfroAmericans I know are to the point that they really don't like (many actually hate) working for other people and really want to do their own thing. Teaching Democrats a real-time lesson is worth it. While I agree that the Democrat party has been taking AfroAmerican votes for granted for decades and they need to be taught a lesson, not voting at all and allowing Trump and Republicans to take over is NOT going to hurt the Caucasian led Democrat party nearly as much as it will hurt AfroAmericans. Yes, right now it's pretty much a lesser of two evils but we can't afford to fall into the trap of being so disenchanted with the system that we forfeit our birthright as citizens (natural to the land despite any laws or statutes) of this nation to DEMAND power be it political, social, or economic. What we need to be doing INSTEAD of simply refraining to vote and dropping out of the process all together is actually forming OUR OWN political party and pushing our own agenda through that party. Start off locally, then county, then state, and with the proper strategy in about 20 years we're ready to run our first President of OUR party who have OUR best interests in mind. Fuck playing someone else's game by someone else's rules! There are nearly 50 million AfroAmericans in this nation and we are large enough and powerful enough to MAKE OUR OWN rules to OUR OWN game. Troy I did also gather there was a petty beef going on... It's all about jealousy and greed my man. The biggest reason African people...not just in the United States but around the entire globe are in the condition they are in is NOT because of immorality, low intelligence, or even racist conspiracies! The BIGGEST reason is because of lack of UNITY. The inability to come around eachother and work together without one trying to boss over and rule over the other. One thinks he looks better and should rule, the other thinks she's smarter and should rule, and the other is being compelled by religion (and greed) to dominate over the others by "divine authority". The idea of submitting oneself to ANOTHER person rarely if ever crosses the mind of the average Black man. Even if he take on the role as follower or helper...in the back of his mind he sees himself as one day LEADING and is constantly waiting for an opportunity to seize the position.

Don't forget Colin Ferguson....who was inspired to catch the Long Island train. https://www.thoughtco.com/colin-ferguson-long-island-railroad-massacre-972712 Dr. Khalid Muhammad called Colin Ferguson a modern day Nat Turner. Similar to Nat who grew up being somewhat priviledged to a better education and surroundings than a lot of other slaves, Colin was from Jamaica and grew up somewhat wealthy and more priviledged than the average African in either Jamaica or the United States. There's something about a member OF an oppressed group who grows up with wealth or more priviledges than others in that group that seems to inspire the biggest revolutionaries. My reconing is that when you grow up priviledged and believing that you have the freedom and power and comfort to enjoy life and then become an adult and are slapped in the face with raw oppression and humiliation.....it doesn't sit as well with you as it does with those who grow up in poverty and learn to humbly accept it. You either commit suicide out of despair or start KILLING those you feel are causing your discomfort and problems. Perhaps one of the main reasons so many AfroAmericans are in the condition they are in in this society is because they have been so accustomed to poverty and being on the low end of society that it no longer becomes "intolerable" to them to the point they would rather die (either at their own hands or while attempting to take out their oppressors) than continue in that miserable condition.

Delano if you can inherit your genetics and wealth why not karma: the Kennedy's. You probably can, I don't know for sure. But I have a hard time believing this is the case UNLESS you are just a reincarnation of your ancestors. Furthermore, if this is controled by a Superior Power or THE SUPREME POWER then it seems to me that karma would be more than something you "inherit" from another but an actual sentence or judgement rendered by an Intelligent Being with the power to put it on or take it off. The genes responsible for heredity has very little intelligence, free will, and ability to discrimninate in it's actions as compared to the Intelligent Being or Beings authorized to distribute karma. So I would expect more discretion when karma is being delivered. As far as the Kennedy's....... You can't make that determination looking at a few negative incidents in the Kennedy family. If we really wanted to measure the amount of Karma flowing through the Kennedy lineage we would have to examine the ENTIRE life of Josesph Kennedy as well as the ENTIRE life of all of his children and grandchildren and then access how much of what he did has influenced how much of what happened to them. That's a more scientific way. But we shouldn't just guess and assume this and that happened because of Karma. It's like a man who shovels snow for the elderly and gives charity to the poor; everyone who knows him says he's a good man. But because he crossed the street without looking properly and got hit by a car.....some STRANGER watching it and don't know shit about him will point the finger and claim that his getting hit was "karma" for him not paying attention. Azacotogan Thank you for your reply. 　 To keep it short and to the point, and to make it clear, I posted what I did not for the purpose of legitimizing African spirituality for those who may be skeptical of it for whatever reason. It is for those who are actually interested in learning about Vodun. Not sure where you are in your journey but your first question is, interesting. Maybe you don't even see why it's odd, I'm not sure. Your first question can't be answered according to the nature of the realms you're asking about, aside from it being an obvious attempt to undermine the information related, but I will say this: any experience I have had with those realms, why would I relay that to someone who off the bat is skeptical of the concepts and thinks I owe them an explanation on whether or not I've "been to those realms." That would be an attempt to validate Vodun and African reality to someone who clearly questions it. I'm sorry but I don't do that. I don't have to prove anything to you. Either the information makes sense to you or it doesn't. But I'll say this in short, in Vodun and all other African spiritual traditions that I'm familiar with, interacting with the different realms spirit on a personal level is essential, necessary and a given when living the lifestyle. Azacotogan..... With all due respect, stop being accusatory and paranoid. You shouldn't accuse others of being "skeptical" or trying to undermine the information your sharing unless you have PROOF or STRONG EVIDENCE that this is the case and the questions that I asked DO NOT qualify for either. I'm not sure of your background, but keep in mind that when you're dealing with OTHER Black people (smile) that same strength and rebellious nature that starts burning in YOU that makes you want to fight that Blac man who gets in your face and questions your info is also burning in that same Black man who is in your face. And unlike Caucasians who will apologize to you and calm you down just to get more information out of you, getting defensive and accusatory on another African usually inspires him to fight you and display his strength and courage and pretty soon both sides will be going at eachother and with little productivity to show for it. We (the Black man) were created in TRUTH and the way to deal with eachother is in TRUTH. You shut another Black man up NOT be acussing him of being skeptical or trying to undermine you but by presenting your information so game-tight and irrefutable that he has no choice but to either concede and accept it or leave the community out of humiliation. So now...... Again, have YOU experienced visiting other realms and being with the ancestors and if so can you describe some of those experience in detail? Things that would contribute more toward lineage salawa would be things like, murder, rape, doing wicked spiritual acts against others, selling out the culture, trying to sell Africans as property to other people (a major taboo), things like that. To be clear...... Does this mean that if a group of men conspired to sell people as slaves or murder an entire village that somewhere down the line some of their DESCENDANTS will pay the price for what THEY did?

Sometimes. Thoughts that come to me from the spiritual realms seem to bring more excitement and a feeling of "relief" than thoughts that I sit down and generate on my own.

It could be the Mike Tyson set a bad example OR it could be that his daughter is just ANOTHER victim....one of many....who have fell victim to subliminal messages in the media and other methods that Caucasian men are using to make themselves more appealing to women of color. One of my favorite shows is The Walking Dead, but the one thing about that show that I don't like is how it makes the Caucasian men look like sexy, brave, intelligent heroes and most of the AfroAmerican men look like cowards and buffoons. The media pushes this narrative constantly and RELIGION has been doing this for centuries. If you are a female of color growing up in this society you have been bombarded both openly and subliminally with messages of Caucasian male superiority and desirability. But even then, it only goes so far because despite so many Black men being broke, on drugs, stupid, unemployed, in and out of jail, and homeless on the street with little power in society most STILL are considered sexy and can manage to not only get women but MULTIPLE women who end up fighting over them not to mention make multiple children who many don't even take care of. If AfroAmerican men are still mackin' like that even in their fallen state........imagine how attractive we'll be when we finally get our shit together, lol.

Troy On top of what Kareem said, come on man...... How many times have I told you about the "white actors" who PRETEND to be engaging in certain behaviors or PRETEND to be poor and oppressed just to fool people of color? Or "white sacrifices" how they will slaughter many of their own just to get more of our people? Neely Fuller Jr. has been explaining this for decades: They'll smoke cigarettes just to get YOU to start, but it doesn't affect them like it does you. They'll drink hard liquor so YOU will start drinking it, but it doesn't affect them like it did the Native Americans. They'll use drugs and engage in all types of crazy and dangerous behavior just to trick people of color into doing it.....but it doesn't have the same effect. They invented "gay marriage" but you don't see homosexuality destroying THEIR communities nor do you see White men being paraded around on award shows in flamboyant dresses, do you? They are great at ILLUSION and giving the impression that they are just as poor and oppressed and suffering just as much but you really don't know WHAT they are going through.

Thank you for this information. I have a couple questions: 1. Have YOU actually visited the ancestral or spiritual realms, and if so can you describe some of those experiences in great detail? 2. You talk about family and national Salawa..... Do you think it's fair or just for a person to have to answer for and possibly pay for the negative behavior of someone else who happened to be in their family or nation? For example, say a man was married but routinely cheated on his wife and abused her having fun sex with many many women and beat his wife and took her money whenever he liked and he lived to be 80 then died of a heart attack. Is it fair that one of his sons or grandsons or someone 200 years later pay the price for HIS misdeeds when he apparently got to have his fun and died a quick death? Say what you will about the Caucasian (White man) but as wicked as he is, in his court systems it is believed that if YOU commit a crime then YOU will do the time....not your kids or grand kids or cousins.....but YOU. So again, is is justice for SOMEONE ELSE to pay for the sins or crimes or misdeeds of another? Not only do I hope you answer my questions but I hope you will NOT be like many people who just pop up on this site, drop a few interesting posts, and then disappear not to be heard from again leaving one to wonder why in the world they bothered to register and post to begin with....lol. I hope you stay for a while and engage.

Kareem I'm sure you'll like Mechee...if you don't mind her constant cussing and ghetto hoarse mannerisms...lol. Both you and her share similar views on a lot of things, especially when it comes to defending the community.

Most of the time...YES.....they do.

　 Troy No, I don't believe in the contrail conspiracies. But obviously white folks are not above polluting our environment with factory waste, faily to remove lead pipes, paint, asbestos from poor communities and we all know who lives , mostly, in these poor communities. To be clear, I didn't say "contrail conspiracies" I said chemical and biological warfare conspiracies. But if what I hear (actually read) is you acknowledging that Caucasians ARE INDEED purposely putting dangerous and downright deadly CHEMICALS into poor communties then you're almost there already. All I have to do is convince you that the majority of these poor communities are Black and that these Caucasians have conspired together in secret to do this and WAH-LAH....you too will now be on the conspiracy theory team! Now if there is an agent that attacks one based upon their level of melanin then you might be onto something. But if such a chemical was available we would have seen it in use by now... We already have one, it's called NICOTINE....... "Smokers with darker skin may be more affected by nicotine than lighter-skinned ones are, a new study finds. Researchers said it was possible that the nicotine in tobacco bound to melanin, which gives skin its color. The darker the skin, the greater the amount of melanin — and perhaps the more nicotine is stored. Those people with the most melanin were found to smoke the most and have the most cotinine in their system, and to have the highest level of dependence on tobacco, the researchers said." https://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/19/health/research/19patt.html 　 "African Americans are known to have a more difficult time quitting and suffer from more tobacco-related diseases," said Gary King, a medical sociologist at Pennsylvania State University and lead author of the study, published in Pharmacology, Biochemistry and Behavior. "By addressing the connection between biological aspects of skin color and tobacco use, this has global implications for all groups, especially to populations with high levels of UV radiation." Melanin pigments, which determine skin color, bind tightly to nicotine. As a consequence, nicotine and tobacco's cancer-causing agents tend to linger and accumulate in other melanin-containing tissues like the heart, lungs, liver and brain, potentially putting those organs at increased risk for tobacco-related diseases. This study is the first to explore the relationship between skin melanin levels and smoking behavior, said King." https://www.wired.com/2009/05/smokingskincolo/ 　 Well, welcome to the CONSPIRACY TEAM comrad!

Kareem 　 Can't we demand more ? To simply answer your question......YES. And we should. The problem with demanding more is as a group AfroAmericans/ADOS don't have a standard master list of demands to hold those accountable to. I'm no fan of Dyson. His collective body of work shows his first allegiance is to white liberals. But yes, he was constructively critical of Obama in this video, which is much appreciated since he actually has a platform. Tavis Smiley and Cornel West were also pretty critical of Obama both before AND during his tenure as President.

Some ideas come to you from the Astral realm. Other ideas come to you as a result of environmental stimulation. Yet other ideas come to you from your ancestral memory. And I believe there are many many more sources.

　 Troy You mean "unhealthy" right? Yes, I'm sorry. Actually, I meant to say something is NOT very healthy for many dark skinned people. When I was in grade school they had a special class for the bad kids. The crazy thing was the the class was full of boys and they were are darked skinned. It make me think that darked skinned boys were bad -- an easy conclusion for a young boy to draw given the way they were all put in a special class. Many of the boys were in a gang. Ebony Magazine wrote an article about their gang back in the mid 70's they came across much more menacing than they were in real life... furthuring engaining the stereotype into the mainstream. This just backs up the "school to prison pipeline" that so many Afrocentric scholars speak of that operates in the United States. The public educational system is designed to break the spirit of AfroAmerican boys (and it would make sense that the darker they are the more they are targeted) so that they will eventually become so dismayed with trying to fit in with "society" that they become anti-social and eventually either form their own societies (gangs) or become ANTI-social all together and become career criminals who see prison as their only home. Even deeper....... You don't believe in the chemical/biological warfare conspiracies aimed at AfroAmericans. However if you did; since darker skinned AfroAmericans generally speaking tend to be "more African" from a genetic point, it would logically follow that you would see the effects of this targeting more among the darker skinned more "African like" AfroAmericans. You know...... As I look back on it from a more mature stand-point, I recognizedthat many of the so-called "bad" boys in school were often the smartest, cunning, and wittiest.....their talents just weren't welcomed in that structure. Many of them were dare-devils, risk takers, and social manipulators who's skills been envied by most military intelligence agencies.....lol. At any rate, they didn't even make film that easily captured dark skinned people in photographs properly -- especially those polaroid cameras. Damn, lol. You have a point, not just with the shake-em up polaroids but with DRIVER'S LICENSES. I've noticed that some of my darker friends and relatives get straight up CLOWNED in their DL photos. Sometimes all you see is a dark smear with a pair of white eyes in the middle or glasses shining as a supposed "identification" photo. Models like Alex wek were the exception not the rule. No shade to Alex, but in all honesty it's not her tone that may be an issue but her FEATURES (nose, mouth, facial shape) that may be more of an issue of whether or not she's considered beautiful Her and Viola Davis (we love to use her as an example on here...lol) are the same complexion but I'm willing to wager most men would clearly see one as more attractive than the other.

The only thing Obama did for Black people was provide an example or role model for AfroAmerican youth to aspire to should they decide to go into politics. Oh, don't get me wrong! He...himself....didn't do shit for us, but his simply being in office and holding the position (as token and symbolic as it was) still projected the IMAGE of AfroAmerican intelligence and respect. He didn't make AfroAmerican men look strong, but atleast he didn't make us look stupid or buffoonish either....lol.....na'mean? Now a days if a brother just don't come on television in a damn DRESS, with blond hair, snapping and going on....or tossing up gang signs and rolling blunts while avoiding his probation officer......as far as I'm concern he's a good role model for yo' ass.

I mentioned Mechee X in another thread, perhaps this discussion would be a great time to drop another one of her videos: Chev Colorism. I don't know 'how many times' it has been a light skinned sista or biracial woman who has combated racism and colorism more so than darker skinned women in my experience. I've seen this from time to time myself. Often times it's the light skinned AfroAmericans who are the quickest to speak up against racism and make their voices heard. I believe it comes from being more confident as individuals. Many very light or mixed AfroAmericans grew up being seen as attractive and "better than" in the AfroAmerican community which gave them a strong dose of self esteem in general, so ofcourse that high esteem and self worth would carrry over to anything they do in life. Many dark skined people were called ugly and rejected growing up so they often turn into angry "Clarence Thomas" like figures who hate their own community as they get older. There's something about the United States that it's very healthy for many dark skinned people. It's to the point that if I see a very dark skinned person who is in shape, well dressed, well behaved, and smiling I almost automatically assume they are African or from the Carribean because if they were born and raised in the United States they would look sloppy and have an even worse attitude. (because of how society treated them)

Kareem I follow them all and find something informative from every one of them. I love Tariq's history lessons, Dr. Umar's desire to build a cirriculum tailored for AfroAmerican youth, Antonio and Yvette's wisdom in building a platform specifically ADOS so as not to confuse our cause and plight with others, I just wish they would focus on the REAL enemy and stop being so petty with eachother. Tariq is my boy but it's was just down right trifflin' the way he ran off and started an FBA hashtag movement knowing damn well it would conflict with the ADOS and cause division. Jealous and petty negro bullshit like that that slows down the progress of the AfroAmerican community. It's funny how Caucasians of different nationalities and religions can put all of it to the side to work on a particular project but AfroAmericans of the same religions, same culture, and same condition STILL often find ways to fight and argue. Kareem, another sister you should check out is Mechee X (who fell out with her once mentor Boyce Watkins over MORE negro bullshit) . She cusses like a sailor and sounds ghetto as hell but all it takes is just 15 minutes of listening to her to realize she's a leader with something to say.

Troy on man... You actually believe that some white men have arranges for these contest to be won by Black women to cull the Black population? Seriously? I'm not sure, but it's a definately possibility and I'm inclined to believe that this is the case. Black men (atleast most) have been praising the beauty of Black women for atleast 50 decades now while Caucasians stood by the sidelines and said nothing. Now for the past 10 or 12 years all of a sudden they've been "discovering" how beautiful Black women are and singing "soul sister" songs to them. You tell me why after all this time of ignoring our sisters they are JUST NOW starting to recognize them? You are giving white folks too much credit. I didn't GIVE it to them....lol. They've EARNED it with their history of shrewedness and cunning. Lucifer himself could use a few lessons from these people on the art of deception. Good old fashioned colonialism has far more effective. What do you think THIS is, we're talking about? One of the most effective tricks of colonnialists is DIVISION between their subjects. They are attempting to take African women, seperate them, and turn them against their own men......a typical divide and conquer tactic. Sorry man I simply don't believe that white folks created AIDS as a weapon to kill Black people. AIDS is just a collection of symptoms. Technically, if a person's immune system becomes weak through ANY disease ot the point that it no longer works aren they acquire a host of other diseases....they have AIDS. But HIV is the VIRUS that destroys the immune system that leads to AIDS and the virus WAS invented by Caucasians. Why would they invest so much time and energy looking for a cure and developing medications that render aids far less lethal than smoking cigarettes which kills 10 times as many people worldwide. They're not looking for the cure, they already have it. Nearly every public university as well as scores of other private institutions have research laboratories where they're constantly doing "research" for this....that.....and the other. Do you seriously believe that after 40 years of research by the dozens of the top institutions of this nation that they just having "discovered" a cure to HIV and these other diseases yet? Man, sometimes I think you express these opinions simply to get a reaction.....lol. You operate a site populated by strongly opinioned pro-Black people and you get on a chair and stand before them proudly proclaiming that you don't believe in any conspiracy to harm or kill AfroAmericans and that the entire thing is just ridiculous......and with a smile on your face you sit down and wait for the reaction, lol. Flava Flav would say, "A yo Chuck, is he serious man?"

　 Troy Man this is hyperbolic. Thinking people know better than to prejudge an entire group of people based upon the behavior of a few individuals. Besides the most dysfunction behavior, as you define it, is engaged in by white men. This isn't hyperbole, it's a sociological fact that most people who come from COLLECTIVIST societies tend to judge groups by the INDIVIDUALS they meet. If you don't understand this concept, how do you think the world feels about America with TRUMP as the head of it? How did you think the world felt about America with BUSH as the head 15 years ago? People in other countries were constantly asking what was wrong with the AMERICAN PEOPLE that they would allow such an idiot to become their leader. AfroAmericans must shake off this extreme "individualism" they learned from Caucasians and stop being so self-centered and concerned ONLY with matters that concern us personally. We need to seriously concern ourselves with how OTHER people think, especially when they think of us. I used to think it was wrong to judge an entire group based on the behavior of just a few people but the older I got the more I began to understand why this is done. When people from other nations come to America and see AfroAmerican men hanging around on the street begging for dope money, older people being disrespected in the neighborhoods, or grown men walking around with blonde hair and limp wrists acting all sissified and feminine in a flamboyant and comical manner they not only judge THOSE INDIVIDUAL AfroAmericans who are behaving in such a disgraceful manner but they also make judgements about AfroAmericans as a whole! Wanna know why? Because they figured if AfroAmericans as a group had any honor and pride the majority of them wouldn't ALLOW a handful to make fools of themselves in public and disgrace the majority! An the individual is a reflection of the whole to various degrees. Some of the shit that goes on in Black neighborhoods would NEVER go on in East Asian or Arab communities in America because these communities tend to have so much of a code among themselves that if just ONE person attempted to engage in such behavior every man who sees it would feel OBLIGATED to confront the offenders on sight! No need to have peace rallies and meetings, every man who sees it will immediately TAKE ACTION. Go to Korean town in Los Angeles and get on the bus and all of the young Koreans know they BETTER get up and let an elder Korean sit down first and if they don't all the other Koreans who see it will give them a mean look, say something, and then CONFRONT them over it!

Chev I'm not sure I understand your point here. My next statements should help you to understand my point better. I disagree. NOw, you have spoken about how Black people existed long ago, then how do you explain their existence in a world with White people? You're attempting to start an entirely different subject. We weren't talking about how Black people came to exist with White people. We can. But we weren't. We were talking about whether or not Africans suffered from SELF HATRED before Caucasians existed, and I maintain that it hasn't based on the research and studies I've done. 　 I don't understand you Why not? I'm writing in English...lol. But, this concept has to have an origin, a start point when it first became significant. So where does this issue of Colorism begin? If you believe that a White child acts a certain way about racism because it is her nature, then I think we need to understand when it began. I BELIEVE it began with Yacub on the island of Pelan. He instituted a doctrine that demonized dark skin and praised light skin as "angelic" and taught his followers to maintain this doctrine generation after generation.

African women are clearly among the most beautiful AND attractive women on the planet. Even when they weren't considered the most beautiful they were the most sexually attractive and Caucasians had a hard time keeping their hands off of them. However like Chev said I suspect a political motivation behind this sudden praise of Black women by the Caucasian media. It's not just with the beauty shows, but with politics and enetertainment where the media seems to be singling out African women and making a distinct separation between them and African men for praise.....which I suspect is a divide and conquer tactic. What they're really pushing is for African women to abandon the "less than adequate" African man and either go lesbian and get with another African woman OR get with a Caucasian man. Either way, it's all geared toward culling the African population and by preventing more African babies from being born.

Chev Why have you not addressed Black people enslaving and hating other Black people? Because it's not the subject of this thread....lol. If you POINT to the ORIGIN of this self-hatred that many Black people possess, being with White people, you are wrong and you are not going far enough back in time. The hatred found in Black people didn't begin with Caucasians, but the SELF-hatred found among so many of our people did. Before Caucasians existed there were wars and other forms of conflict, but they arose out of jealousy, greed, ect.....not self-hatred. You do realize that the ORIGIN of Caucasians would be A BLACK ORIGIN, right? .......you DO realize you're mixing apples and cucumbers, right? Don't mix the origin of Caucasians with the origins of the psychology used BY Caucasians to manipulate and dominate much of the global population of color.

Troy While our government serves as Amazon's hand maiden Some have argued that Facism officially begins with the merger of governments and the mega-corporations who buy into and influence them. Clearly when you have major public necessities like transporation, communications, and energy supplies being owned by private entities like Amtrack/United Airlines, Sprint/Verizon, and PG&E instead of the government itself.....one has to wonder how long it will be before the postal service is replaced by Amazon and UPS.

They say the grass in greener on the other side.....lol. In the United States I haven't found a huge difference in the way Caucasians and other races behave and treat AfroAmericans regardless of region. Perhaps in the South Caucasians are a LITTLE more respectful because we are the majority population down there, other than that it's not a huge difference. In Canada and Europe I HAVE seen a major difference in how AfroAmericans are treated, especially AfroAmerican men. It was much easier getting women in Canada and Europe than in the United States. Infact, in most cases it was effortless because as soon as they heard you speak they were attracted to you and came (no pun intended) to you! 　 　 Troy Technology has enabled racism spread faster. I think you're right. The PERCEIVED anonymity of being on-line has emboldened a lot more people to not only express the truth of how they really feel but also seek out the company of others who feel the same way. It looks to me that that the racism among young Caucasian men under 30 seems to be bolder and more striking than even the racism of their fathers. If you get on an elevator with an older White man atleast he'll smile and perhaps try to strike up a conversation......a younger White man usually won't even look at you directly but will stare out of the corner of his eye, won't say a word, and won't crack a smile. You can only wonder what he's chatting about with his friends online.

Kareem You're damned if you do, and damned if you don't. My deep voice scared white people and/or made them uncomfortable at my last office jobs years ago. I'm not a tall, imposing brotha. But I lift weights and keep in shape. I started wearing glasses instead of contacts to look less "intimidating" because the job paid well and I was willing at that time to play along. But then white chicks start asking you if you want to hang out with their "gay friends." Been almost six years since I've worked in an office setting. I could never do it again. I knew early on in life that I wouldn't fit in with "corporate America" given my political and social views as well as just my personality and inability to easily conform to majority values. The good thing is I've always known how to stay out of trouble and avoid it when I see it coming so I've always managed to keep the jobs I wanted while a lot of brothers ended up getting fired for falling into the traps set for them to fail. What I wish is that more AfroAmerican men would stick together and open up their own businesses so that we could employ eachother and not deal with the racism and insecurities of working with and around Caucasians. "And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah...By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands." Thus Zionist Israeli "Jews" (Ashkenazis) are Gentiles according to their own Torah. But that passage only appears in the King James Version. The "isle of the Gentiles" part is completely eliminated in the more popular NIV and ESV. That term "gentile" is a Latinized translation from the Hebrew word "goyim" which is the term for non-Jewish Caucasians. If you look up the definition they'll say it means "nations" but it really means the other tribes of Caucasians other than the Jewish tribes. Up to that point, all I’d been with was white girls. I didn’t know Muslim/Arab culture, so I was very cautious. You obviously hadn't heard about the "honor killing" that often goes on with a lot of Arab and Muslim women from those Middle Eastern countries. The men tend to be very jealous and some will even kill their daughters, sisters, and even mothers if they suspect them of having sex.....especially with a Black man. Troy In my Riley Freeman voice, "Nah, nigga dat's gay." Seriously, of yhe top of my head I can't think of any. Lol........ Didn't Omarr Tyree used to put out a lot of romance novels? I remember seeing his name a lot in the novel section of bookstores, although wasn't sure of the nature of his material.