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People tend to want to believe (and even seek out) information that agrees with what they already believe. The thing about the internet is there is SO MUCH information out there (they didn't used to call it the "information highway" for nothing) that you can easily find plenty of sites and articles to support any belief you harbor no matter how ridiculous. There are actual articles and sites dedicated to people who love to and promote the eating of shit!

Chev Thank you for that clarification sis. In other words, they were among the first "sell outs"....lol. Oh but, yes, if the book states that this book is the book of Solomon, then yes, it would definitely be PUBLISHED by Solomon, himself There's a difference between a PUBLISHER and an AUTHOR. A Publisher may be responsible for presenting the book to the public, but the Author is responsible for content of the book itself.

I too believe that smarts has a more narrow scope than intelligence, but I think when you call someone "smart" it's usually in a broader contexts than just one field or subject. There are plenty of people who are very knowledgable when it comes to things like football, the best type of weed to smoke, or even survival out in the wilderness. But that limited knowledge doesn't necessarily translate into them being "smart" as individuals. They are just the average (or in some cases below average) person who has a lot of knowledge about a subject for whatever reasons. In my opinion, a "smart" person usually have a broader and more general range of knowledge with a higher than average degree of intelligence to go with it.

I've heard many different perspectives on this "pandemic" and how it relates to African people. I've heard that our people were immune to getting it. I've also heard that our people are getting it but most are either showing no symptoms OR very mild symptoms of it.

Troy I did not know you ran for office, now I have to look at you differently and understand why you've remained anonymous all these years I did mention it briefly during my earlier days on this site. Not sure if you remember, but me and Cynique had gotten into it over how homosexuals are to be treated and she accused me of wanting to harm them and I forced her to apologize because although I was anonymous because I was running for office at the time I didn't want to take the chance of someone tracing that false accusation back to me.

Troy When you say "natural selection at work"........do you mean stupid or foolish people's behavior will get them removed from the gene pool?

Troy There is no scientific evidence that human civilizations have been here for millions of years. It depends on who's "science" you choose to believe. I don't believe much of Western science because it changes too much. The so-called educated leaders of Western society FIRST claimed that man was no longer than 6,000 years old and that humanity started with Adam. THEN when they found some old bones in Africa they kept changing the dates and going back further and further. Science is supposed to be based in truth and facts. Historical truth doesn't "change"; so if you had to change a "fact" as you received more information then it wasn't a fact to begin with.....which in my opinion makes your credibility concerning any other information you offer questionable. But I agree, Western civilization will absolutely collapse. We can debate the timeframe, but it will happen and we are seeing indications of it today. Yes sir, and I say good riddance. The faster it collapses the sooner OUR civilization rises. Del what astrological prediction are you following? Naadi Astrology, originating from among the Asiatic Black man (Dravidian) of India.

Chev But as PIoneer did reply, he does not really believe this process in the way that I have explained it, however, he does contradict himself, IMO, but he won't admit it. How so? .....do tell. However, ‘cave-man days’ would be way before the time of Moses and the term ‘Caucasian’ is not used to define the caveman period. The "cave-man days" would be cira 4000 B.C. - 2000 B.C or about the time frame between the Caucasians being driven into the Caucasus mountains (around 4000 B.C.) AND Moses being sent up to civilize them (around 2000 B.C.). If you research the history of that area BETWEEN those two time periods I just gave you, you will find Caucasians primarily living a life of savagery, violence, sheltering themselves in caves and mountains. In other words, living a "cave man" life. However, the Biblical timeline for the Original Jews stem from Abraham, Isaac, Jacob [Israel], and then Judah and some of his brothers. At this time period, between 2000 BC to 1800s BC the term Caucasian would not define the Jews at all. You're right that this is the BIBLICAL timeline, but like much of what is in the Bible...this isn't necessarily factual. The very EXISTENCE of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob are called into question let alone the time periods they allegedly lived in. 　 This is extremely misleading. The very definition of their origins stipulates that they are the same in their original formations. The Jews are also defined as the original Hebrews Are you SURE about this sis? In the biblical Book of Esther chapter 8 vs 17 we read: "And in every province, and in every city, whithersoever the king's commandment and his decree came, the Jews had joy and gladness, a feast and a good day. And many of the people of the land became Jews; for the fear of the Jews fell upon them." It says that some people BECAME Jews...clearly implying that they weren't Jews to begin with. Surely these people who CONVERTED to being Jews aren't from the same original Hebrew stock you speak of. Also, the Caucasus mountains and 'CENTRAL ASIA' are two different geographic areas How can this be when the Caucasus mountains are IN Central Asia? That's like saying Watts and Los Angeles are in two different geographical areas when one lays within the boundaries of the other. So, the origin of CAUCASIANS are then BLACK AFRICAN. But somehow, they BE-CAME into existence and were WHITE. That means that THE ORIGINAL CAUCASIANS WERE BLACK AFRICAN. No. First of all there is no such thing as "Original Caucasians"...it's a contradiction of terms. If they are Caucasian then they CAN'T be original. And as I said before, the Caucasians were made from the Black ASIAN (Dravidian) not the Black African. Pioneer states that 'Dravidic Indians and Caucasians are originally DARK BROWN MEN with their own YDNA with no origins from BLACK AFRICA.' So, the historical records all over India today about their ancient BLACK, straight haired Indians are wrong? Their ancient scripts and Art form of carvings and depictions of BLACK East INDIANS are a mistake? Not sure what you're talking about because I don't recall making any of those statements above. Dravidic Indians are dark brown but Caucasians (today as in the past) pretty much lack melanin and therefor lack color except for the few (like Italians, Jews, ect....) showing trace amounts as a result of ancestral interbreeding with other races. So, there is a hope that this all powerful DIVINE POWER will get rid of White Supremacy and/or White people that 'WE CREATED'? So now, 'do we' want to get rid of them, and live happily ever after in an all-Black world—completely void of White people? The Caucasian power structure will be broken and eliminated, yes....but whether or not Caucasians themselves will go....I'm not sure. Some say they will continue to exist for another 1,000 years after their power has been removed from them, others say they will actually destroy themselves, once again I'm not sure. 　 　 Thank you! That means a lot to me. You're more than welcome my sister!

Troy etc expecting everything to be done online, but the digital divide is real and many people will be left out in the cold. Actually, to the contrary......what is happening right now will put the vast majority of humanity on a more EQUAL playing field, because for most people "technology" as they've come to know and rely on it will no longer be available to them. I don't think most people understand the full scope of what is happening. Western civilization is imploding. If my expectations are correct, in the coming weeks...."work" and "school" and whether or not they can be performed in person or on-line will be among the least concerns. Survival will be priority for most. Not survival of the virus, but survival in the midst of societal chaos.

I forgot exactly why or how I came across this forum. I was running for a local political office at the time and was probably looking for intellectuals in the Michigan area who may have been on this site to establish connections. I didn't get the position but I got hooked on the site after having so many interesting discussions without encountering the niggativity and fuckery so common on many AfroAmerican websites. 　 Troy I assure you, my apocalyptic beliefs about where things are headed aren't based on biblical prophecy or neo-Christian rhetoric such as the "rapture", but in ancient astrological as well as metaphysical research and predictions. Human beings and their various civilizations have been on this planet for millions of years and these civilizations have expiration dates. Western civilization is no different and it's collapse is iminent in my opinion.

Chev Although I've been in churches for various social and political events, it's been yeeeaaars since I've attended a formal religious setting in chuch. Judging by what you've related in the above post, I see I haven't missed too much....lol. Same old games and shinanigans going on in the Black church that have been going on for decades. It was only a few months ago while I have visited this church that a young girl has recently began to visit and she happens to be extremely dark skinned and unusually beautiful. And, although I have seen dark skinned ‘Black’ girls of whom had this similar striking beauty, to my surprise, and in my opinion, she beats all. I have never seen any African American girl that has her presence and not only that, What has amazed me since my school days is how well women can tell OTHER beautiful and attractive women when they see them. Most men (unless they're gay or bi) don't seem to be able to tell another handsome or attractive man when they see one. I saw men who I JUST KNEW women would be all over them, but when the women didn't react that way I thought they would and I ask them they'll start talking about the shape of the man's head or his teeth how he has shifty eyes or some other feature I had no idea they even noticed.....lol. I've left girls alone because I figured I didn't have much of a chance against some "pretty boy" who I THOUGHT looks so good that she would just go crazy and hop in his lap! And when she didn't even smile at him and I later ask her why....... "Are you serious? He's got orange teeth and a big sloppy ass! Why would I take a nigga like dat home to my family?" As ridiculous as this may seem, well, the older pastor has seemingly completely ‘lost his mind’. In just a few weeks, he has insulted his beautiful wife in front of the church and the two of them actually got into a shouting match in service. He shared with the church from the pulpit that both he and his wife have children before they married and the First Lady of the Church, his wife, was visibly seen to not agree with this type of open exposure in front of the Church. The pastor told the Church from the pulpit that he committed adultery years ago and that his wife forgave him but, her response moments later shows otherwise. Another week came, however, and the pastor was absent and ended up in the emergency room because he later said that he over did it during a workout session in his attempt to get his youthful physique back. From what you've said, the wife didn't have a problem with his past adulterous affairs so much as she had a problem with CURRENT FOOLISH BEHAVIOR. I remember one pastor who's daughter had a breast removed for some reason or another and the pastor actually pointed to her during service and talked about how his daughter had her "titty cut off" . The woman was so embarrassed. You'd be surprised (or maybe not) of what comes out of the mouth of some negroes when you put them infront of a microphone. But your pastor's wife probably can pick up on some sort of sexual attraction that Pastor is having for this young dark sister and she doesn't like it one bit. All of his attempts to distract and "throw off" the scent makes it even more ridiculously obvious....lol. The subconscious and almost uncontrolable resentment you feel towards dark skinned women who are beautiful is easily explained...... You see my dear sister, THIS world (started by Yacub and his disciples) was built on the principle of White Supremacy so for thousands of years it has trained it's societies to promote and uplift light skin and condemn dark skin. It's ingrained in the social and religious systems of this world (Yacub's world) that dark= evil and wicked and inferior where as it's taught that light=goodness and purity and superiority. So when you see dark people being smart or beautiful or brave, it sets up conflict in your mind because the TRUTH that you're actually seeing goes against the racist indoctrination of your subconscious mind. This is why if you notice a lot of Caucasians love promoting stupid and ugly AfroAmericas. They'll promote them on jobs, promote them on television, promote their music, ect..... What they're really promoting is Black negativity and inferiority because it re-enforces the concept of White Supremacy. Promoting smart and beautiful Black people would be in direct contradiction to this.

Chev I would like to say, that I thank my Creator for the Protestant Movement here in America because had it not been for them, White European people, I would never know about ancient Kemet. About 2000 years ago, the Black African world threw the ancient books down at the cross completely in exchange for the law of the Roman Empire. Well sister you know the Protestant Movement didn't start in the United States; it started in Europe with Martin Luther. But what did you mean by this statement about Black Africans throwing their ancient books down at the cross for Roman laws???? I have an idea about what I THINK you mean, but I'm not sure so I'd like you to clarify please. this would be one of the reasons why Solomon wrote this book SONG OF SOLOMON (Canticles), which became described as one of the greatest written works of all time. For this reason, at times this book would also be titled The SONG OF SONGS. Solomon wrote this book, again, when he was old and did so, as if to ‘right a wrong’. In it, Solomon uses deep analogies upon which, without a deep understanding of certain scientific background, it would be impossible to understand how Solomon was able to anchor his writings and dispel a lot of later deception. Sister, I believe we went over this before....lol....that Solomon didn't author that book. It starts of with the author saying, "Let HIM kiss me.......". Certainly if it was a book BY Solomon himself instead of about him it would be "her" instead of "him".

Did a little research on him and his work with Coltrane. Quite a man. I hope our brother.....and his family....are at peace right now.

Gibran By no means am I a bible thumper or a soap box preacher, but, yeah, these are the last days! Not going to divert Troy's thread into a direction he didn't intend for it to go, but let me say..... These indeed are the last days, but the last days of the OLD SOCIETY and the beginning of a NEW SOCIETY. This is the end of a world too! The ending of the OLD WORLD and the beginning of a NEW WORLD.

A man and woman walking around naked and unwashed??? I bet there were plenty of "crabs" ON THEM to feed their appetite. A saw a little bit of that show when it first came on the Discovery Channel but stopped watching it because except for people's butts, the actual nudity is censored or blurred out. How many people are really interested in seeing a bunch of filthy people wander around the jungle for weeks foraging food and sheltering themselves in caves and under trees??? It's the NUDITY that most people really want to see. What good is having a show like that on television if you're not going to show the most attractive feature...the nudity?

I measure intelligence by how quickly one assimmilates new information, but more importantly how they apply what they know to create something novel or generate new ideas. I would think how well one applied what they knew would be beyond the realm of intelligence and in the realm of WISDOM. But now that the discussion has become a matter of "Smarts vs Intelligence" it has prompted my interests. In my opinion: Smart = knowledgable A smart person is simply a person who knows a lot (or a lot about a particular subject) Smarts is a result of access to and retainment of knowledge. Intelligence= strong comprehension and memory How quickly can a person pick up on patterns, understand concepts, and retain what they've learned? Intelligence is primarily a function of the brain and isn't necessarily tied to knowedge itself....although knowledge is the most common DISPLAY of intelligence. And since you mentioned "applying" what you know...... Wisdom= the PROPER application of what one knows which involves a host of other skills and factors beyond mere access to information and a good grasp of a particular concept. Having layed out MY definitions of these words- A person can be intelligent without necessarily being smart, especially if they haven't been exposed to a lot of knowledge. They have the POTENTIAL to be very smart but not the tools. However, I don't think a person can be very smart without having a measure of high intelligence. Having good comprehension and a decent memory is essential in properly retaining the information one has been exposed to.

Troy and Chev In MIchigan the Governor has ordered all the shools to close down as well as the gymns and restaurants. Libraries....a popular spot for homeless people....are shut down all over the state also so there's a lot of homeless people wandering around. There was a little scare this morning in Detroit when many of the transit workers started walking off the job because they had to come into so much contact with the public and the city's public transit system was shut down. But I guess the issue was resolved a short time ago and there were promises to get the buses and trains moving again. As is probably the case in your locations, the stores are out of sanitizers, toilet tissue, face masks, and half the stores are out of sliced bread for some reason.....lol. Troy, you may not agree with this having actually lived IN New York during the time, but to those of us in the rest of the nation who lived so far away.....in my opinion the reaction (and over reaction) to this is bigger than that of 9/11! I remember 9/11 and people's reaction to it as well as the black-out of 2003 and how it caused a slight panic for a few days. But this....... This is different. This is much different than both those events because it seems to be causing more than just panic but a deep stress and depression in a lot of people because they instinctively know that it's not going to end anytime soon. I need my sister and brother to be safe and stay healthy in this chaotic time. Everything happens for a reason. I believe our SALVATION as AfroAmericans is waiting for us during and on the other side of this major event.

I've read and heard from several sources that all viruses are man-made; meaning that either humans deliberately formulated them by some sort of method such as one may formulate poison...or that it came from humans like living properly like eating animals they shouldn't be eating or having sex with animals or just not practicing proper hygiene among themselves. 　 Chev @Chevdove Speaking of "back firing".... Have you been hearing reports that Black people who get the virus are pretty much showing no symptoms of it?

Troy Well, it looks like I popped back in at the right time....lol. Like you, unless they're promoting something.....I too question why so many people waste their time registering just to make a post or two and then disappear. Especially when there's so much going on in our community to talk about and get off your chest. I believe many of these posters are trolls and agents who are "spying" on the site and realizing that you much be registered to get access to certain features and information...they'll register just to get deeper in the game. But if your looking for solid answers to why such little traffic in the discussion forum...... I've said it time and time again but I don't think many people believe (or want to believe) it, but this site is too "intellectual" for a lot of our people. Too many tend to love high emotion and drama. They love sites where there is a lot of gossip, insults, and threats flying back and forth. They like sites where people can "clique-up" and form online gangs where they attack eachother over silliness. They also like sites where the moderators are more hands-on and when I say "hands on" I'm not talking about simply participating in the discussions are you do but hands-on in the form of heavy handed moderating where people who are not liked or offering unpopular opinions are banned or posts are deleted. It makes them feel more comfortable and they also like the power of being able to call on an authority figure to get someone else in trouble. People should really be taking advantage of your online bookstore since so many bookstores across the nations are shutting down due to this man-made "pandemic".

Just checking in with the family. I haven't posted in a while because I've had a lot on my plate and spare time is dedicated to sleep, lol. Hope everything is going reasonably well with you considering the global "crisis" that seems to have been developed over the past few weeks.

Chev Black Rob said "Whoa" .....lol. I'm glad I decided to check in and see what was going on in here after days (weeks?) of my focus being elsewhere with all of this "corona" shit jumping off. You certainly gave me a lot to respond to but I'm wrapping things up for tonight and don't have the time to give your posts the response they deserve so it may take a few days. Glad to read from you again, btw.

Troy Lol @ "lightskinded"...... Man, you bring back old memories with that one! When I was a school boy me and my partners used to have running jokes over who could extened the "deded" part of light skinned. -"Man, Deon got a new girlfriend!" -"Yeh? Is she light skindededed?????" Every now and then a Black person would come along speaking properly and say, "Light skinned." or "Dark skinned." But keeping it short and sweet like that sounded weird, lol. I drink and smoke weed SOCIALLY and OCCASIONALLY; meaning if I'm with some friends and they beg me to do it, I'll indulge to keep things flowing....but don't like getting drunk or high. You mention that both the athletes AND owners smoke weed, but the difference is most of the owners are Caucasian and I've mentioned time and time again that just because Caucasians indulge and participate in certain behaviors....doesn't mean WE should follow them. Our systems are different and chemicals react differently. Having been almost all over the United States and Canada and even Europe I've observed that drinking alcohol usually have a POSITIVE effect on Caucasians and makes them more sociable, friendly, and relaxed....but usually has a NEGATIVE effect on Africans and Native Americans (including most Latinos) and makes our people angry and upset. And it often goes down hill from there leading to many health problems. From time to time I go to college campuses and tell young AfroAmericans to leave the alcohol and weed alone because WE don't need it. Weed and alcohol are DRUGS, and drugs are designed to correct a problem that the body for whatever reasons isn't fixing. Caucasians have an ANXIETY and FEAR problem, especially when it comes to social situations so alcohol and weed helps to relax them and ease their problem; most AfroAmericans are naturally brave and don't suffer from anxiety and fear problems so we have no NEED for weed and liquor, but they do so because just to imitate Caucasians. Many Black men who drink and get high do so because it takes their mind off of taking responsibility for the mess their homes and communities are in. They know they should be confronting their boss at work, or their woman at home and demanding more respect but they'd rather get drunk and get high to avoid the inevitable.

Like Neely Fuller Jr. has said for decades....... Everything the White supremacists do, they do to strengthen their power. It may not always work in their favor and sometimes their plans backfire or fall through...but maintaining power is certainly their intent when making them. Every law they pass....it's to help them. Every law they repeal....it's to help them. If they forbid homosexuality and promote polygamy.....it's to benefit Caucasians and harm AfroAmericans. If they turn around a few years later and forbid polygamy and instead promote homosexuality.....again, it's to benefit them by destroying the AfroAmerican family and promoting the Caucasian family. You may not IMMEDIATELY see the logic in this, but after a few decades after you start seeing Black men al over television in dresses and half of the boys running around gay as hell while Caucasian families pretty much remain the same, then you realize the effects these laws have. Another example are the marijuana laws............. For decades marijuana was illegal, now all of a sudden they want it legal. But do they just go ahead and make it legal across the board all over America????? Nooooooooo.....that's too simple. So they play political and legal games with it. They make marijuana LEGAL on the state level but ILLEGAL federally. You scatch your head and try to figure out why this is so confusing and contradictory. But when you understand the system of White supremacy and how it works you will automatically suspect that SOMEHOW....SOME WAY.....these sneaky bastards are up to no good and it's being done to strengthen white power and harm AfroAmericans. ....and sure enough when you see Caucasians getting rich by opening up dispensaries all over in places like Colorado and Washington while brothers are going to jail left and right for having pounds of weed in their trunk that they THOUGHT was legal, you begin to see that the devils are up to their same old tricks.

Troy I guess you don't watch HBO and have not seen shows like Game of Thrones -- HBO is all is all violence and sex, Sopranos, Boardwalk Empire, The Wire, Westworld, and on. I treat HBO like a vice. I limit my drinking, eating of bad food, exposure to social media, and of course TV. Lol...... I was talking about broadcast television like NBC, ABC, and CBS that occupies public air ways. Networks like HBO and Netflix are more private so they can pretty much do what they want.

There are certain powers who are trying to fracture the United States into several different nations instead of one. They want to take Utah, Idaho, Montana, and a few others and form their own nation. They could have legalized polygamy a long time ago in the United States but with all of the political and social gains AfroAmericans were making in the 50s, 60s, and 70s.....White men were afraid that polygamy would allow AfroAmerican men to not only marry multiple AfroAmerican women but CAUCASIAN WOMEN as well.....and take them away from Caucasian men. Now that so many AfroAmerican men are socially and economically devastated and no longer pose a threat (so they think) now they're looking at the option.