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Alison Felix is sexy as hell. I thought Flo-Jo was sexy too. When I was younger they featured track and field nearly every weekend on television, especially on NBC. But when more and more AfroAmerican athletes started dominating the games all of a sudden they stopped showing it so much and now all you see on television on the weekend is swimming or football.

Delano What EXACTLY do you mean that "a myth is something true that never happened"?? Please break this down as SIMPLY and as LUCIDLY as you can.

Troy You're right that ALL of us are effected, but everyone's not effected in the same way. Kind of like alcohol. Caucasians drink alcohol and gave it to the Native Americans....but that same alcohol that causes most Caucasians to celebrate and get happy ended up devastating Native American society and turning many of them into depressed alcoholics. Likewise...... Caucasian culture and values like monogamy and the nuclear family have proven to be good for many Caucasians and helped them to live stable and productive lives, but has also proven NOT to work for most Africans and has resulted in broken homes and dysfunctional families where the women don't trust the men and the men are forced to lie in order to be sexually fullfilled. Human sexuality is a complex combination genetics and environment it always has been. If there is a greater incidence of homosexuality it probably is all the chemicals put in our environment and food that is the culprit, not some evil cabal white racists. I agree. But the question is who put the harmful chemcials IN the environment in the first place? 　 Cynique My response to your generalization about what "most" African American men want is what most African American men, who are racial hybrids as a result of slavery, want is one wife. They may all be playas when single but once they decided upon their own that they want to marry and have kids, they are satisfied with one mate because this works better when you don't live in a grass hut in the jungle. Otherwise, they remain bachelors and play the field. Once again, you're right AND wrong. Yes, most AfroAmerican men want a good woman at home once they are ready to settle down.....but that's so that we can have a stable home to raise our offspring in and come home to. But MOST (certainly not all) still have an active sex drive and desire sex with other women from time to time. They just don't want any relationship and very little emotional attachments; those are reserved for his "main" or his wife. You're making the mistake of assuming you know what men want or how they feel by looking strictly at their behavior or what they are "allowed" to get away with. 　 All you have to do is to look around you and observe how everybody in America does their own thing. If everyone in America were doing their own thing and expresing themselves as they wished, there wouldn't be so many "support groups" and psychologists catering to people who feel they are unable to express their "real" selves in their environment.

Polygamy for one. Most men of African descent are POLYGAMOUS by nature and Christian/Western society attempts to SUPPRESS this natural desire by either making it illegal or making it shameful and socially unacceptable.

I wouldn't worry if I were you. Everyone already knows how IN-credible you are, lol.

About as much as your question has to do with the subject of this thread.

Cynique And you want to replace these white lies and myths with black ones Mythology has it's place but I want to replace lies with TRUTH, which has no color. And the reason folks on the internet say what you accused them of above could have something to do with the idea that until "niccas" get scientifically superior enough to dismantle white supremacy, then there's no reason to believe they are exceptional enough to supplant existing scientific theories. You're actually correct....lol....for a change.

Cynique 　 In the ghetto culture, black people do "what comes naturally" and ignore "white" values, and the result is not positive........... In reality, blacks have their own personal code of conduct, and that accounts for the class divide among them This is not true. Except for a relatively few independant minds, most AfroAmericans whether they are in the ghetto or living in the suburbs may not have a Caucasian standing over them directly telling them what to do BUT most of them are Christians and heavily involved in the Church. And so Caucasian values are injected into the AfroAmerican mindset by proxy THROUGH Christianity.....especially the Western European versions. On top of that, most people in society get their morals from LAWS; they determine what is "right" or "wrong" based on what is currently legal or illegal.

Troy Who are "they?" The USUAL suspects...... The same ones who promoted NWA and gangsta rap. The White Supremists who control the music industry. A lot of people who get tatoos all over their body and face have a mentality where they don't care and don't expect to even live long enough to regret what they've done. Most don't don't see themselve making it past 30 anyway. That's why they run around saying Y.O.L.O. Cynique And who are "they" trying to disgrace? The monkeys or the black youth??? Atleast the monkey is acting the way it SHOULD and is EXPECTED to act. Monkeys have been behaving that way for millions of years. You can't find any record of AfroAmerican youth looking or acting the way these two do 60, 50, or even 30 years ago.

Troy Cynique is half-right....lol. Horus came before Jesus and BOTH of them are Greek names. But like you said, Horus is the Greek version of "Heru" of Kemet.....where the term "Hero" comes from by the way. Some claim that the story of Jesus comes from the story of Heru but having read various versions of the story of Ausar, Auset, and Heru I see very little resemblance. I believe that the story of Jesus is BASED ON the life of a man who did live at the time named "Yashua" who taught, performed wonders, and challenged Roman authority but was eventually arrested.

I thought it was a psychological ploy in an attempt to offer an air of mystery to his persona and keep people guessing what he really means or where he really stands, lol.

Chev I used to love debating people. Still do sometimes. I love being right/correct and showing others that I am, lol. However as I've gotten older I've realized the importance of debating FOR A GOOD REASON. Like debating in order to convince the person I'm debating with and/or those listening that my ideas are better.

Chev I don't know about that, because of this world that we live in today. I don't think that it revolves only around the 18+ year old, but how this government has shaped us to view Sex. Because of White Supremacy [ie. also White Supremacy that livew within many AfroAmericans too!] we have been conditioned to use Sex and Sexuality as a method of DOMINATION and etc. Sex has become like 'a dirty word' when in reality, it should be a positive experience. You're correct that many use sex as a form of Domination. But if that's their only tool.....can you blame them? This is why I don't have a problem with prostitution in and off itsef (as long as it's not forced). Some people's only source of power and control over themselves or their only immediate way to make money IS through sex and having sex with others in exchange for favors. I wouldn't take that away from them because "I" thought it was wrong that that they shouldn't be doing it. If it's going to help them feed their kids and keep the lights on in the house, unless I promised to do it for them.....I'm going to let them do their thing. 　 I do believe that we are getting these values from White Supremacist, but now though, we are getting these values from Blacks too. if our ancestors were doing right, then we wouldn't be confused today. I believe our problems today stem from our ancestors too. You've made an EXCELLENT point. People often confuse being "nice" with doing the right thing. I don't care how nice you are or what your religious beliefs are, if you are in a position to be defeated and enslaved or slaughtered then you did something "wrong". Not necessarily MORALLY wrong....but socially or politically wrong.....because if you didn't you wouldn't have been defeated and enslaved. If you're walking down the street with your family and a man attacks you all and kills them, YOU did something wrong. You may have not KNOWN what the right thing to do was. You may have seen yourself as helpless. But because there's a solution to every problem there was SOMETHING you could have done (whether you knew what that something was or not) that could have saved your family. Do you understand the point I'm making Chev?

When I say body language, I was speaking specifically about how the first young man to your left started off scratching his side with his entire arm like a chimpazee. And then how they both started pulling their lips apart like monkeys often do. I've said this for years, especially after seeing how most young men walk when they sag their pants.... They are trying to influence our youth to look and act like monkeys to disgrace them.

I'm beyond trying to prove that Jesus was actually a Black man. The question should actually be did the Jesus that the world has given us for the past 1,500 years even EXIST, let alone what his ethnicity was. Infact, was his name even "Jesus"? Why would a man allegedly living in Palestine at a time when the letter "J" didn't even exist have a GREEK name?

Lol......ok, I'll try. 　 If you go back up about 6 posts you'll read where in a response to Del, Troy said: "For reasons previously stated this is impossible to answer. What was your GMAT score? Was it higher than average? If so, maybe is was higher than the average score of a woman, making you more intelligent at taking standardized tests. " Del's response was: "Then why ask questions if its impossible to answer. " Which was s rhetorical question, meant to be more of a statement than a question. But it prompted Troy to say: "Delano in the real world do you also avoid answering questions or answer questions with a question?" ....probably not realizing that Del did answer (or atleast responded to) his questions by basically saying: "Man, why are you even asking me these other questions about my GMAT scores if you think the original question is impossible to answer?" But because Del didn't make that clear in his response it led to MORE confusion among the two.

I've been saying similar things on here for months and probably over a year now. I've BEEN saying that there's a difference between KNOWLEDGE and mere "information" or data that you get from 2nd, 3rd, and even 15th hand sources. I also said knowledge is what YOU experience or observe, verified by YOU. But see, when a BLACK MAN says it....some of you don't want to take it seriously. "Ah....some half drunk nicca on the internet running his mouth. He NEEDS to take his ass to school and get some education before displaying his ignorance all over the place." But when Caucasian....or Caucasian trained...people come along and say the same thing, it's "amazing" and considered worthy of consideration, lol. All of a suddent it becomes a centerpiece for philosophical discussion. It's just like the "voodoo" thing. As long as it was just Black people doing it, many Black folks called it crazy and satanic. But as soon as White folks took notice, started studying it, and got into it then all of a sudden you have a crowd of negroes tying to "reclaim their spirituality"....lol. But anyway...... I think that "science" can prove SOME things but most things they espouse are NOT proven. I've heard that they really haven't even seen an atom yet. Much of Caucasian so-called "science" is based on lies and myths. And they KNOW it because they KNOW eachother, which is why the main people you here questioning official "science" is other Caucasians, but not so much people of color who are educated by them. When was the last time you heard an educated AfroAmerican question anything scientific? Often times it takes another Caucasian to challenge the establishment because many negroes are too scared to. A good example..... For weeks now I've heard in mainstream publications that Russia is planning on sending a probe up to the moon to see if the United States actually landed there. http://fortune.com/2018/11/24/russia-us-moon-landing-conspiracy/ I thought the idea that the United States didn't really land on the moon was mere "conspiratorial talk" until I found out that the Russians themselves are questioning it!

I want you all to take a look at the BODY LANGUAGE of these young men for the first couple minutes of this interview and then tell me what they remind you of or how it makes you feel.......

OK..... After reading it a few times, the last few lines make sense to me now, lol.

More than just the physical aspect of sex, one of the biggest focuses I think we need to pay attention to as AfroAmericans are the moral and ethical aspects. Some of the biggest problems faced in the AfroAmerican community revolve around reckless and improper sexual activity. Male/female relationships. Child abuse Homosexuality and it's acceptance in the Black community Sexually transmitted diseases Unwed pregnacies and the single parent families that are produced by them. I believe many of these social pathologies are as a direct result of AfroAmericans as a group TRYING to copy Caucasians and adopt Caucasians morality, ethics, and social/sexual habits instead of developing those of our own.

What were you BEFORE you decided to be neutral?

I would LIKE for you to apologize for attempting to smear the reputation of a good man who put his life on the line and died for the rights of you and other AfroAmericans, but that would be TOO MUCH like the right thing to do.....lol. So I won't ask for it.

??? What does this bit of "seemingly unrelated" information have to do with the two questions I just posed that you clearly have NOT answered yet? BTW, Elliot hated Black men and even admitted that he was jealous of them because they were having more sex and attracting more women than he was. He felt because he was half White and half Asian that he was "superior", but the women showed him the truth and he couldn't handle it and started killing them over it.

I've been on your case because you've been acting a straight fool lately, lol. First you go after me, Troy, and Nubian Fellow because of the position we took.....or actually the position we REFUSED to take....on condemning the alleged behavior of Elijah Muhammad in another thread. Then you accuse....while boldly refusing to produce a shred of evidence to support it what so ever....Martin Luther King and Malik Shabazz (Malcolm X) have having extramarital AND homosexual affairs! It was surprised because I found it suprisingly unreasonable and unlike you. But hey, it is what it is.

Del Which is it, avoidance or confrontation. Can you tell me how to decide. You should take a "line item veto" approach.....lol. In some cases you should confont a person and engage them in argument if you think it will be productive, and in other cases when you feel no progress will be made you should avoid them.