Pioneer1

It's no longer a "conspiracy" once they start doing it OPENLY. Anyone over 40 can EASILY see how much the Black American community has declined intellectually, morally, and socially, over the past 30 years. There has to be a cause for this. We know that lead contamination in children causes intellectual impairment and violent tendencies and we know that lead contamination is mostly concentrated in the inner cities that are mostly Black and Brown. But that fact that Black people collectively haven't done anything to remedy the situation yet speaks volumes about us as a people. It shows the entire world how much care about our children and how much we care about our future.

Del Pioneer in all seriousness. You may need to find a way to handle this frustration. Or it will eat you. Normally I would give you a hard time. Not on this one. I found out a long time ago that one of the best things to do for ME to handle my frustrations is....not hop on a plane and fly to Australia to get away from the ghetto....lol....but to become active in my community and solve the problems I believe exist. Mel are you having a difficult time getting oxygen to your brain. Where do you come up with these wild assumptions. I just happened to live in county that is run by a woman and the Mayor of the city is a woman,... I think the mayor even served in the military. By the way, both of these women are black. Our county sheriff is a black man but there are quite of few deputies that are women...and dispatch is also staffed by women... Do these women work WITH men.....or are they working BY THEMSELVES IN-DEPENDENT of men? Are they living in a county WITH men....or are they living in THEIR OWN county being ran TOTALLY by women with no men to DEPEND on? See Mel, independene means just that....IN-DEPENDANT.....NOT DEPENDANT on anyone else. I said there is NO SUCH THING as women (as in a community) who exist INDEPENDENT of men and I stand by that statement until proven wrong. And again, the MAIN men women of color in this nation depend on are WHITE MEN.

Mel But I think @Pioneer1 just taught us something! I've BEEN teaching...... Yall just ain't been paying attention.....lol. Del Pioneer I may have been wrong on both counts. In underestimating you and overestimating Mel Cynique and Troy That's alright.... It wouldn't be the first time....lol. If I let it bother me everytime you were wrong about me or my intentions.....I'd be on medication, lol. Troy and Cynique The lady doth protest too much, methinks (since you love the British and their dictionaries so much Didn't I tell you they were inlove with White men....lol. https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/4804-questions-for-cynique-mel-and-anyone-else-who-can-answer-them/ Now, about this "mansplaining" business..... According to Neely Fuller Jr., a word is BEST defined by those who coined or invented it. This is to prevent what we see taking place right now, which is Black people bickering and squabbling over words that NEITHER of them invented and NEITHER know the true origin or definition of.....lol. Just like they often do over religion and politics. From what I understand, the word "mansplain" was coined by WHITE FEMINISTS. So I think Black women should let THEM have the word and invent another for themselves to use....that is...if they really WANT to go the feminist route. But Black women who call themselves feminist should abandon their feminist like ideologies because it's nothing but another tool by White racists to divide the Black community and keep it weak. The same White women who'll jump up and down about how condescending men are and complain how they talk down to women.....are the same ones who voted for Trump and slept with Harvey Weinstein.

Troy Pioneer, that is easy. Here is one; Your position on "race" remains unchanged despite all the information, science, and data that has been shared with you. This like arguing the world is flat. As Antonio Montana would say: OK...... Then I have 2 questions for you: 1. Will you please kindly tell me what do you believe IS my position on race.....that you claim hasn't changed? 2. And do you believe that "race" actually exists? Cynique ??? Are there actually white college graduates serving hot meals to drug addicts in the ghetto? This is why i can't groove with you, Pioneer. What you say sounds so unlikely. How many soup kitchens, homeless shelters, and drug rehab facilities have you been around that you can intelligently judge whether my statement is accurate or not? You don't judge whether or not I'm telling the truth simply because it "sounds" unlikely. Hell, it "sounds" unlikely that sight and sound can travel through air; yet someone proved it could happen by inventing the television....lol. I'm trying to imagine a scenario where ghetto drug addicts are being served hot meals by anybody, because these people are on the street focused on quick ways to get their next fix, Drugs are their top priority, but they're STILL human beings and must have their basic needs of FOOD, clothing, and shelter met. Again......... Most of these "poverty programs" that are being funded by the government do next to NOTHING to aleviate poverty because many of the people who are running them are racist, inept, and or and insincere in their efforts. They pretend to care about the poor but actually use their programs to line thier own pockets, hook their friends up with good jobs, and enjoy a feeling of "superiority" over less fortunate people.

Although it's the first time I've seen it worded that way...... I'm presuming Del's "Wednesday Thursday Friday" stands for "W T F" or "what the fuck". Del Would I be correct? Or did you mean something else?

Del I am not certain how your two statements are different. In the picture Cynique posted, it infers that the Universe CREATED us to be an image or reflection of Itself. But Troy is inferring that there was no act of creation but that we simply ARE the image of the Universe Itself.

Del Insult my previous post all you want...... But I'm probably one of the FEW people who understood what YOU just posted....lol.

Virginia NGO's are working hard by organizing different volunteering programs for helping the people. Virginia, many of these NGOs and Non Profit Organizations are nothing but SCAMS that not only do nothing to aleviate poverty but actually CONTRIBUTE to it. I've worked for a couple and I've been on the inside to know what I'm talking about. First of all, most of these NGOs and NPOs are nothing but programs to provide jobs for White kids who get out of college with degrees but can't find jobs in the corporate world. So when they can't find a job with Google, they have a friend that hooks them up with a job serving hot meals to drug addicts in the ghetto until they find something better. Second, many of these organizations have CONTRIBUTED to the poverty rate because many of the programs that Presidents Roosevelt and Johnson instituted were ran by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. .....which means that because of affirmative action and hiring laws, many of the positions inside these government organizations were actually held by BLACK PEOPLE and provided them with good paying jobs. But when these institutions went private or Non-Profit......that exempted them from many of the strict hiring laws they had to adhere to, so instead of being forced to hire qualified Black people.....they instead employed White kids and paid THEM $40,000 or $50,000 to come to the ghetto and feed people. This is why my signature says: If you do not UNDERSTAND White Supremacy...what it is...and HOW IT WORKS...everything else you understand will only CONFUSE you. You'll be CONFUSED as to why so many people and so much money is funneled into eliminating poverty yet it continues to increase. Troy I can never prove, to your satisfaction, that anything you say is false or ridiculous. Asking me to do so is a waste of my time. I've never observed you change your position on a subject even when presented with information to the contrary. Lol, come on man...... First of all, being presented with mere "information" to the contrary shouldn't be enough to make me...you...or ANYONE change their position. We have to first make sure that that "information" is correct. Now I'm not going to say I NEVER do it, but can you point to atleast 2 instances where I was presented with CORRECT information that contrasted my postion on a given subject where I failed to change it? I'd like 2, but I'll take one. Describing research, information, and facts as "academic." is an excuse for the not to facing the reality that your position is flawed There's a difference between flawed....and wrong. ObamaCare is "flawed".....but it's positives outweigh it's negatives. Is it your contention that the ONLY way a person can intelligently talk about a subject is if they've gone out and done endless amounts of research on it complete with documents and affidavits? Describing yourself as, "a straight shooter", and saying you "speak plainly, directly, and to the point." does not make what you say true. True. But it DOES make me a better communicator than one who is well researched but vague and confusing in their delivery to the audience.

Del Pioneer maybe its your personality not your colour. Man, why are you spelling "color" as "colour"? That's the way the British and Australians spell it...lol...I thought you were from the United States. But as far as my personality......... I have actually made 2 separate but somewhat related points in this thread: (.....which I'm beginning to believe was a mistake to make in the first place...I mean, did I really expect for either one of them to actually ADMIT they were inlove with White men even if they really felt that way?) 1. My first point was that I believe Cynique's and Mel's behavior exemplifies the typical behavior of a lot of AfroAmerican women in this society today. They seem to put a lot of praise and value on the opinions of White men over other men of color or atleast over Black men. 2. My second point was a complaint about how Cynique (and now Mel) usually react to my statements whether they actually agree with them or not. And I think the second point DOES have a lot to do with my personality. I've been told that I come across as somewhat forceful and dominant in my opinions and a lot of women in this society have been trained NOT to cater to that demeanor.....especially when it's coming from a Black man. And once I've been pegged as "that guy" by these two....even if I make good solid points....can I expect for either one of those them to salute me for them? Mel I meant to address a point you made earlier about how you mostly admire Black women, see them as the game changers, and believe that if anyone saves us it's going to most likely be the Black women. The "Black girls rock" Michelle Obama pushes. We know that NO WOMEN exist independantly of men. Oh she may not have a man in her IMMEDIATE environment as far as in her home or paying her bills, but she certainly has a man and most likely a GROUP of men in her community and in the nation she lives in who are keeping her fed, employed, healthy, keeping her car running, keeping her plumbing working, and keeping her safe from criminals. And in THIS society/nation....those men are usually WHITE MEN. They OWN the damn "game"....so I know you really don't expect for Black women or any other women to be real "game changers" without the involvement of White men in this society. So really what you're saying either directly or indirectly is that you aren't waiting on Black men to save you....you're going to just focus on moving foreward with WHITE MEN to protect and provide for you and your children as they've been doing for centuries.

Donna Brazile Damn, that woman is sexy! Even her NAME is sexy.....lol.

One of the best ways to honor our Black war veterans would be to: 1. Put some of our best and brightest minds into federal positions so that they can influence our foreign policies and keep us out of needless wars like Vietnam, Korea, and Iraq....where so many Black soldiers have already lost their lives. 2. Encourage Black youth to actually JOIN the armed forces so that they can learn how to fight and defend themselves against enemies both foreign AND domestic. Say what you will, but it seems to me that the military often times gives our young people the needed discipline they're not getting at home or at school.

Mel Nothing is "weird" about a man who hates the fact that the women of his own race/ethnic group are more in love with and find White men more stimulating than him. White men and even men of other races have STARTED WARS over the very same thing. It's called JEALOUSY...and I admit I'm JEALOUS of how so many White men have captivated Black women in a way I haven't been able to do yet. I don't think jealousy is wrong, The Supreme Being gave us that emotion for a reason. But perhaps you're right that it IS weird....to see a Black man exhibit that type of frustration though because most Black men seem to care less whether their own women respect them or not

Come on......it ain't that hard. Her comment was directed at the one who is AWESOME.....lol.

Cynique My response....or lack there of....stems from my realization of something that I've suspected for months now. No matter what I post, how powerful the argument, regardless as to how persuasive it is you two probably would acknowledge it as being a valid anyway, let alone agree with it or concede to it. No one is ALWAYS wrong. An imbecile, a deranged demented old man, even a schizophrenic is right SOMETIMES even in their twisted thinking. So anytime I run into people who rarely if EVER agree with anything I say......it has less to do with race or politics and more to do with personality. I'm beginning to wake up now. It took some time because when I interact with other Black people I'm usually so optimistic that I don't see THEM the way they may see ME.....so I'm always looking for unity and searching for validation of ideas. But once it's been made clear to me..... Del Pioneer shouldn't your meme be wearing a dashiki? ....and shouldn't YOU be wearing this white skull cap to go with that white towel laying across your neck? They go together you know...lol.

Thank you Virginia! I figured it would only be a matter of time before somebody noticed...lol.

Del It is unlikely that you will have information that I have been searching for my whole life You got THAT right....lol. Arrogant people who brag about flying to Europe to eat cheese and chocolates in old museums probably don't search for ANY type of information.....because they usually think they KNOW everything already! But I read somewhere years ago that in some ancient cultures the "shaman" and most psychic people were often bisexual or homosexual. They occupied the role of what many would consider today the "priestly class". Men and women who didn't get married and produce children, but just dedicated their lives to spiritual matters. Being bisexual, homosexual, or even asexual......joining this class was probably a way out of having to get married and produce a family which was what almost all normal men and women were expected to do.

Troy So you believe white racist kill each other out of boredom? Does the massacre in Las Vegas where over 500 people...mostly White....were shot by another gun-collecting White man for absolutely NOTHING, answer your question? Or do you need more examples? Let's go back to my original question @Pioneer1 when did white supremacy start? I know you said you did not know. But you should look it up. It would help us have a more intelligent conversation on the subject. Come on Troy, you've known me long enough to know that I don't argue or discuss subjects along what I call "academic" terms where we're exchanging figures and graphs and what we've found in endless research. I'm a straight shooter. I speak plainly, directly, and to the point. I make statements and whether one agrees with them or not, they're either TRUE or FALSE. Now I'm telling you that White Supremacy is the cause of poverty around the world today. My evidence for making that statement rests in the fact that White men in Europe and the United States pretty much control the world's economy. Now if my statement is ridiculous..... Can you prove that statement to be false by providing a concrete cause of global poverty? You're saying poverty is caused by these mysterious "greedy men" in this mysterious "system". Yet if we were to examine these men as well as the system that spawned them, what skin color would I find these men to be?

Troy 　 Oh, actually I did see it but forgot to comment on it last night. Let me hit on it right quick........ 　 A cursory knowledge of history would give you ample examples to the contrary. Think about religion for example. Religion predates White Supremacy and has been the cause of a great deal more suffering which continues to this day. Wouldn't you agree Yes religion as a concept predates White Supremacy, because religion is just RITUALISTIC beliefs and behavior. However White Supremacy IS a religion, one of the most powerful on this planet. White Supremacy is such a powerful religion that it usually makes people over ride their OWN religions by conforming to the standards of the Whites who employ them and abandon keep aspects of their religion. The Bible may say not to work on Sundays..... But if that White man schedules you for Sunday and is the one writing your check to keep your bills paid and your family fed, you're gonna have your ass at work on Sundays DESPITE what the Bible says. The Quran my tell you to pray at a certain time........ But there are Muslims who DON'T pray at that time because that White man they work for told them that this is the time they need to be working and they should pray at another time. Or they may drink alcohol because other people around them are doing it despite their religion forbidding it. So yes, I agree that religion has caused a great deal of suffering.....the religion of WHITE SUPREMACY. 　 　 BTW regarding the video, people can have dual citizenship i.e. have two nationalities. What you're talking about is "nationality" in LEGAL terms, but I'm talking about nationality in ETHNIC terms. Having dual citizenship and having 2 nationalities isn't the same as being HALF of one nationality and half of another. As far as White people killing eachother in wars............. They start doing that when there are no other people of color around to kill and oppress. Which is one of the reasons they have decided not to try to kill all of the people of color around the world outright. Some wanted to do so.....but the smartest of the White Supremists know that if they did manage to kill all people of color (which they will never do) then pretty soon they would get bored and start slaughtering EACHOTHER like they do in many of these European nations where there are no people of color. What White people do to eachother in no way cancels out the fact that they practice a system of racism and White Supremacy worldwide. No matter how much they fight and argue, they come together when it comes to YOU...lol.

You two should just "listen" to yourselves..............

You're more than welcome.

Troy you should research the subject of white supremacy. Why would I need to research a subject that I'm living in and experiencing to have a conversation about it? That would be like me doing research on what it's like to live in the state of Michigan, lol. My living under the system of White Supremacy for over 4 decades has given me enough knowledge about the subject to earn my PhD in it if it were a field of study....lol. It is interesting given your admittedly limited knowledge on the subject that you feel perfectly comfortable making grandiose statements like, "White Supremacy took these evils which were rather local and isolated and MAGINFIED them into a world wide system of exploitation and misery previously unknown to humanity." So, are you saying that the statement I made is wrong or false? You do realize that calling it "grandiose" or otherwise attempting to ridicule the idea STILL doesn't disprove it. The only way to disprove it is to DISPROVE it...i.e. provide STRONG EVIDENCE or PROOF that contradicts it. Now can you do that? It was called the TRANSATLANTIC slave trade because European slavery extended from one side of the Atlantic Ocean clear to the other side. What other group of people can you point to in a historical context that has come even close to doing this? Del Pioneer giving up on you is not the same as giving in to you. Your comment is both queer sounding and rapey. Del is that YOU talking, or is it that the "Little Della" trapped inside of you who's making all of these sexually suggestive projections about my statement....lol? Now here, Neely Fuller explains why the problem of White Supremacy MUST be solved first before any other major problem can be addressed......... In order to understand poverty or any other major global problem, you must first understand the ROOT CAUSE of the problem.

Cynique Yes I've read Miseducation of the Negro. It was a great book. It's been many years since I've read it but from what I remember there is little similarity between what Mr Woodson taught and what Mr Fuller is teaching. Just admit Cynique, you don't like him for the same reasons you don't like Farrakhan. One of which is the fact that I (Pioneer) like him....lol. If I like him, THAT RIGHT THERE is enough of a reason for you NOT to like him, with your contrary ass...lol. Del Pioneer is that why you keep suggesting that I open a school and teach. Your mind has fun house mirrors. Whooooah, wait a minute! I said since you got money to fly over to Switzerland every weekend eating all types of exotic chocolates and shit, why don't you take some of that money you're wasting to impress White folks and BUILD a school that mentors and teaches Black boys in The BX about wealth and economics. But I didn't say anything about YOU being the one to teach and mentor them...lol. Infact, YOU need to stay the hell away from both the school AND the students...lol. With some of that mess I've read from YOU on here, if YOU were up in the class room teaching them......accounting and stocks would probably just be a SIDE JOB. You'd make their MAIN focus hustling crystal balls, tarot cards, and palm reading as they rotate street corners and routes in New Jersey. No sir. Infact, you can even stay in Australian and just WIRE the money back to the U.S. to have the school built or to fund the program if you want to.....but don't come NEAR the school. Until....maybe...graduation day when we let you stand on stage and pass out diplomas if you promise not to say anything....lol.

Del Perhaps Pioneer can shed some light on this for you Might as well..... My views on repressed or latent homosexuality and bisexuality may be the VERY thing you've been searching for in life. There might be a "Della" trapped inside of you waiting to break free and express herself....lol. Troy My bad, I didn't realize you were joking. A lot of people ARE serious when they say that....I know I was when I used to tell people that. I used to even hit on lesbian women with the intention of "turning" them straight with good sex, lol. Mel I don't see how an animal that reproduces by itself is considered an "advancement". Especially if they can't control that reproduction and it happens spontaneously. Seems more like a nusance or even what some would consider a "curse"....having to give birth with little self control over when and how many times.

I haven't had a lot of time to read through this entire exchange but let me say................. It seems to me that Antonio had a DUAL purpose for coming to this site and coming to this section of the site. To seek advice on writing AND to seek comfort and understanding from among people he feels SHOULD be getting both from....other professional Black people! There's nothing wrong with that...in my opinion. For one thing.... From what I see the Culture, Race, and Economy section is the most popular section of this site and has the most traffic, so OFCOURSE someone who is looking for the most attention for what they have on their mind would come HERE to get their issue addressed by as many minds as possible. It only makes sense. But more to the companionship and the solace of finding other Black people, especially professional Black people to share your frustrations with.....where else can Black men and women go to get that?

Del Pioneer do you understand what an accountant does. Because it doesn't seem like it from your comments. Pioneer spell check or proofing my post would fix my deficiency. Fixing your unrealistic assumptions and faulty logic is a bit harder. Accountants count money. Trading Brokerage and Sales make money. WhatEVER the hell you did, why didn't you go back to your old poor/working class community and help bring wealth and prosperity to people who really need it instead of skipping off to another Western country to add to THEIR wealth? Young White people....hipsters....are moving into every little nook and crany they can find in New York. They're moving into the ghettoes, the slums, the old project buildings...and refurbishing them and restoring old neighborhoods. Why did THEY have to do it when there are hundreds of thousands of negroes with degrees who came from those very same neighborhoods who COULD have done the very same thing with even more success 20 years ago? Australian doesn't need your wealth and knowledge.....Soundview and other poor/working class Bronx communities of color do. Troy But when you disagree on the cause of a problem the solutions will naturally be different. I agree with THIS 100%. How can a doctor cure or even properly treat a disease that has been MISdiagnosed? Black people fight racism, when the problem is our entire system Trooooooooy, Troy, Troy.....man who CREATED this "system"?????? Asian women? Native American men? Who were the men who ESTABLISHED this system and is keeping it running that you and I both recognize as being a problem? -ALL QUESTIONS ARE RHETORICAL- Because you and I both know the answer. Mel What goal will the black community achieve when the racism problem is solved? Peace and prosperity.