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  1. URL https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/art/The-Ride-Of-Your-Life-1339286160 CONTENT TITLE: THE RIDE OF YOUR LIFE Venger trapped the Heroes in the Maze of Doors. The doors forced the Heroes to disperse and Diana, the Acrobat, was eaten into a desert land. This was three days ago. Now after wandering in the desert, seemingly alone, she comes face to face with a sparkling horse, absent a shadow. She approached it and the horse spoke. It called itself, Majikili . It said it had been eaten by a door many years ago and brought to this desert. It continued to explain. Said it traveled many miles for a very long time. Diana pondered how to escape when a horse had gone farther already and found no exit. She pondered and pondered and realized maybe the exit wasn't a location but a state of being. So, she talked with the Majikili , and it told her where it came from, treasures and lands she never knew existed. But Diana never asked to ride Majikili and MAjikili never offered. But when a sandstorm was approaching them from a clear distance. MAjikili offered to allow Diana to ride him and when he did, a path led away from the sandstorm to a hall inside the Maze of Doors. And Diana plus Majikili were overjoyed. Now back in the maze, with Majikili's speed and Diana's staff they fended off the few doors they met or evaded large groups of doors, till Diana reached the other Heroes, each who had gained a friend from a world through a door. from Richard Murray @HDdeviant for ? Note: muuaji wa kivuli- killer of shadows For the WATN Heroes of Dungeons and Dragons of @CRLiterature ? Audio Series https://www.kobo.com/us/en/series/richard-murray-tip-jar-audios Ebook Series https://www.kobo.com/series/richard-murray-short-story-collection Gallery of writing https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/gallery/81311721/my-tales-or-poetry CRliterature content https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/gallery/97552463/crliterature-content Tip Jar https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/tier/Tip-Jar-to-HDdeviant-902770076 #watn #dandd #diana #acrobat #hddeviant #crliterature #richardmurray #richardmurrayhumblr
  2. URL https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/art/A-TRUTH-IN-THE-SEA-1339272554 CONTENT TITLE: A TRUTH IN THE SEA SUBTITLE: A Marcus Preacher tale AUTHOR: Richard Murray @HDdeviant STORY: Summer is the time of ice cream, roller skating, or fun at the beach. Everyone is looking to avoid baking in the heat, seeing disturbing illusions, succumbing to the frying frustrations. Thus, a child dead at the beach is an uninvited thing, but not unnatural. Adults can get killed by tide, and children since ancient times have always gone where they were told they shouldn't. So, I didn't drive to the hospital expecting a lead like at a cookout. I honestly wanted a reason to get the wind across my face for an extended time in a dry, smelting day. But what I got was a recipe for deadly delusion. Fanning myself, I entered the hospital and per a friend, who kindly informed me that Freddie Salazar saw the body already, saw the body. Her name was Fatima Branch, fourteen years old, champion swimmer at Harriet Tubman middle school. Now still in the eternal waters of death. My friend told me what they only told law enforcement, the young Branch didn't drown by being forced under. She had no marks across her body, she had no liquid elements to induce, or signs of inhalations to promote. By all accounts Fatima Branch kept herself under water. But why? I acquired the name of the parents to the deceased and the school young Fatima attended and after a phone book search called some potentials. Finally, I reached Veona Branch who was quick to hang up but informed me she had already talked to the police. Wanting to cool off more, I drove to the old slaughterhouse district, now a residence for municipal workers to churn out their lives with their families. P.S. 352 is like any urban school, whose neighborhood changed, it once had a choir, a mock trial team, a set of statewide science fair winners. But the trophies for modernity are bare, except for the swim team, and I could see the legend that was Fatima Branch. The security guard informed me that Harry Wecum is teaching some kids how to swim in the school pool. I traversed the halls of book reports, grading lists, photographs of children playing to reach coach Wecum. He was helping a child with their form when I approached. He told me Fatima was a good student, without turning. The harassment in the heat made him sensitive to questioners. I asked him more about her. Did she have any bullies? Was she a loner? How was her home life? Did she have any secrets you learned as a coach? he said no to all with the inner melancholy of a tell all book. I offered to see him again and he said to be at Jim's Pizza Parlor in an hour. I took that hour to knock on the Branch's. A male voice replied to go away. I pleaded I didn't think Fatima was crazy or bad and wanted to tell the positives in her life. The door opened and Mr. Branch spoke sharply, his posturing a clear message I wasn't getting in. "She loved to swim, she was loved, a prodigy, that will be on her gravestone" And Mr. Branch closed the door while I protested and pleaded. And off I went to wait at Jim's. I asked the pizzaman if he knew Fatima. He said she never came in. The pizza smelled good but the heat in the parlor was effervescent. Finally, coach Wecum came in. The coach ordered a slice. I asked him, did he and Fatima go here often? He said yes. And then I asked him, is there something he can tell me about Fatima that can shed light on her murder? He said she wasn't bullied, had a good set of friends, whom he named, from what he could tell her parents were very proud of her swimming ability. She did seem worried in the weeks before her death, but he didn't know why. I asked him about a pendant her father wore, seemed like a golden mermaid to me. He said he wasn't sure. He asked Fatima about it. She wore one as well, and she said it is an ancient water spirit, Tlanchana. The coach wasn't anymore help but I had something. I was happy to drive to the museum and caught Doctor Williams on her way home. I asked her if she knew of Tlanchana. She said it sounds Mesoamerican. But she would call me tonight. So I headed on home. A kid, great in the water, who believed in a water spirit, kept herself in the water to her death. Was it infatuation, love, or some sort of fear? Around nine p.m. the Doctor called. She told me Tlanchana is the name for a water goddess of the Purepecha people, great metalworkers, before the white Europeans came. She said her bottom half is serpent not fish and she is usually benevolent. She said Dr. John Thompson name came up continually on research, and also told me to be careful. She knows how I like to burn my nose. And I thanked her in a mature way, and went to bed... great child swimmer, Tlanchana, a watery rest, why? After a cold shower, the next morning, I quickly found and headed to the clinic of psychiatrist Doctor John Thompson. I repeatedly pondered why a psychiatrist was interested in a Mesoamerican mermaid. I didn't know the truth but the statue outside his practice, on the freshly cut lawn, is like the necklace worn by Mr. Branch. While large enough for me to notice Tlanchana's serpentine figure. I went inside and as I was asked to wait by the receptionist the pamphlets plus posters reveal the connection. Dr. Thompson's practice focuses on healing people from a fear of water, aquaphobia. But I am stuck. If the deceased Branch was afraid of water, why let herself die in it? If Thompson was who frightened her to stay in the water, what could he had gained? Thompson was very somber and assertive. But I immediately noticed his gold necklace. And asked did he know Fatima Branch. He told me he did and her parents. His tears seemed true. After a moment, he continued and explained that he is a psychologist for the healing of natophobia, the fear of swimming. Branch's parents and his other clients have an uncommon trait of natophobia, in their bloodline. I saw a shrine of candles through a window and asked what was it for. He said it is for the children of clients, now including Fatima. He added thousands die from drowning every year, it is rare but not unheard of. He admitted some of his clients have lost faith in his methods after Fatima's death. I asked him, did Fatima show signs of fear in the weeks before she died. He said no but I could tell he pondered himself. I didn't think he thought Fatima was murdered in the water either. I asked him about his methods and he said that was private to the clients. On the drive back to the newsroom, I tried to find a seam, to answer why Fatima let herself die in the water she loved so well. Psychiatrists, ancient deities, coaches, a unique community, maybe the psychiatrist tried an experiment gone wrong, maybe a secret from the coach is the key, or a relation, a teammate, or a member of the natophobes succeeded in some scheme for some reason. I needed more. In the office it was quiet for me. Ethel and Clay was working on another successful romantic column. A couple long dead in the city had left messages in jewelry about a tree that saved their community from eminent domain and real estate sharks. Santos was getting juicy insight on a telenovela. She learned that Divine Johnson is making a comeback in "My House Mi Casa" as Pearl Santiago, the Queen mother of the Christophe clan feigned her death in episode two hundred and eight and is coming back with a completed plan to return to her chair. While I, investigative reporter of the Renaissance News, sit unactive around the bustle. Malcolm didn't even find the time to chastise me with so much going for everybody else. And Mallory called, which proved how little he knew, hoping to get back into the game through me. And then the phone rang. Coach Wecum told me to come to a road aside a garage near while safely about the psychiatrist, at three a.m. I asked him why and he said he wanted proof he wasn't the cause of Fatima's death as law enforcement has been asking more and more questions about him, and by exposing the psychiatrist, the truth will be revealed. I had no other leads but I told him, I have an interview with Detective Todd Langer tomorrow morning which can help his cause. He was overjoyed. And I wrote the introduction to my column. After a little dinner with Santos, I headed to the meetup spot, taking the rocky roads to avoid the main. At least it was cool that night I kept my car locked and out of sight of the coach whom I watched sitting relatively still in his car, as I crept near. I could see he was jittering as I snuck aside him, and tapped his window. If only a photo of his reaction had value. He was surprised I came but said we will need to be careful and observe a ritual. I asked what kind of ritual. He said the ritual of Tlanchana. I told him, you lied about the necklace. He said, I didn't tell the police or anyone else what I know, some ancient ritual wouldn't be believed or would make people think I am crazy. I asked him what evidence will I see. He said evidence that Dr. Thompson and his patients, including the Branches, are doing experiments that led to Fatima's death. We walked to the clinic, under the moonlight, careful not to be seen and enter the backway through some bushes. I saw the Doctor, and a set of people, including the Branches; he was wearing a feathered headdress and directed his flock to the pool. The clients undressed and entered the pool, as I took photos. I couldn't say a bachelor wasn't happy with some of the sights but was worried as they seemed to live in the water. I asked the coach if Fatima ever showed this ability. He gave a convincing no with his nodding. Mermaids, people of the sea, in a suburb of the United States of America. What a story. I saw them under the water for an hour and a half. They all came out adjusted for the air and seemed overjoyed. During their underwear stay I asked the coach how he learned about this. He said he read a notebook of Fatima's which mentioned this a while back, saying her parents always did this on a full moon, like tonight. I pondered, maybe Fatima tried this away from the pool. That would explain her not coming up and make her parents or the doctor complicit but the sudden turn of behavior didn't have a cause. I told the coach, Detective Langer will definitely want to see this, which made the coach very happy. The coach said he needed to get back to the city, he has early morning preparations to do. I told him thanks and I will be alright. I wanted to stay and see. After a meal, and some prayers for the candles, the clients left and the Doctor was alone. I figured it was about time to head back when a car came back. Here we go. The Doctor seemed prepared and had a gun in his pocket. He opened the door for a woman, blond, middle aged. He gestured for her to sit in the lobby and she did and then he accused her of something and they argued. Between mermaids performing under the water and mermaids arguing outside of it, I have decent material. Whatever this woman told the doctor had him in shock. She leaves patient or confident. While I am confused. A dead champion child swimmer who never came up for air, the venerable Tlanchana, mermaids in modern times, a coach scared of being exposed, a rogue mermaid with a secret. I thought of what I learned going back to my car. In my foolishness, I didn't notice if the car was locked and just entered it. I sat down and someone clubbed me. Wobbly, I noticed one of two was the coach or the blond woman. I was tied up but I could talk now. I asked them what is going on. They both told me to shut up, while they dragged me to the sea. And I realized i was being taken to where Fatima died. The night tide was coming in heavy. The moonlight was visible as I held my breath unable to move. A reported in a few hours would be falsely reported as a news maker who knew of the Doctors practices and coerced Fatima Branch into a botched story absent anyone's knowledge. A murphy, a sap, me. All I could do was focus on the moonlight, and struggle against the ropes. Suddenly, I saw a snake like figure break the moonlight. A great tide came in. It knocked me out. When I woke up I was on the beach, alone. I had no idea of what happened to the coach or the blond woman. But the rope was severed. I took hours to get back to the car. Luckily they didn't take my money, so I was able to get a bus ride some of the way. I found my car where I left it and broke in. My camera was intact but I wondered. I checked everywhere in the car, my wallet, compartments, pockets, trunk, and I checked my journal and the camera. I had photos of Fatima Branch, I never made, naked. I had essays from her, she never gave to me. And it nearly all fit. A coach with an inappropriate relationship with a student, a child. A child of mermaids with one from her flock who had a role in her death. But she knew a secret so strong she couldn't be revealed. Sirens. Police sirens. Valentin creeping behind law enforcement, for the Concrete inquirer. I saw they were headed to the psychiatrist. I followed them in my car. Detective Langer came out a car and I parked and exited. I took all the planned material in a bag with me and refilled my camera, took my pad and exited. Langer saw me and was in shock, and said: "We've been looking for you, the coach came in and confessed to violating Branch, attempted murder of you and planting false evidence." I told him if he let me speak to the Doctor, and I will give you the planted material. The detective said: "only because you had a rough night, and the Doctor and you are only needed for questioning, five minutes. " I handed the bag and ran to the door of the clinic and reached it as the Doctor was opening it to leave. The detective gave the signal and the cops allowed me to push the Doctor back in. I locked the door and I told him, I saw the mermaids earlier that evening with the coach, and I saw him argue with a blond woman, who tried to kill me. The Doctor said the water was a perfluorochemical solution he made. It seemed to ease his patients being able to be free in the water. I asked, if you knew the blond woman had hurt Fatima, why didn't he go to the police earlier. He said, she knew the secrets of his practice. If she told, all of his patients plus him would go to jail. He accepted what he did but his clients are fearful and desperate people. And then I comprehended the truth behind the candles, and law enforcement knocked on the door. I was questioned and said all but my late conversation to the Doctor or the glimmer that is a foggy photo in my mind. Poor Fatima, harassed into a state of anxiety, believing her death was what the water spirit wanted. Fatima was a gift, the lone child who survived a cult of natophobes who wanted to be mermaids to alleviate their fears. And between a coach preying on her body plus mind, frightened to be exposed and a member of her cult, envious of Fatima's success with a candle for their own failure. The young swimmer was caught in a deadly delusion. Eventually, the body of Marilyn Cox was found washed up on shore. By then the coach, and all he saw of girls or goddesses, was in jail. The pseudo mermaids, including the Branch's had swum elsewhere, living in their deadly wet fears. But while Fatima was untouched in the water. Marillyn seemed to be crushed by a serpent. A benevolent spirit to the fearful, forgiving even of their sins, but to the treacherous, deadly. CHARACTER LIST Marcus Preacher- narrator, investigative reporter for Renaissance News Fatima Branch- goes to Harriet Tubman middle school Veona Branch - mother of Fatima Branch Harry Wecum - swimming teacher at P.S. 352 Mr. Branch- father of Fatima Branch Doctor Williams- friend of Marcus Preacher Tlanchana- Mesoamerican water goddess of the Purepecha people Dr John Thompson - psychiatrist of natophobes, trying to cure them of natophobia Ethel and Clay- romantic columnist for the Renaissance News, a couple Santos- female reporter for entertainment news, Renaissance News Malcolm- head of the newsroom, Editor of Renaissance News Detective Todd Langer- local cop, knows Preacher Marillyn Cox- Woman, blond, middle aged, natophobe Valentine | Pianist and photographer for a local newspaper (favorite piano piece III. 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  3. URL https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/art/Where-Is-Elaine-Now-part-2-1339330593 CONTENT The law enforcer turns the pages of the diary to a page unfinished. March 3rd 2025 Ever since I received that vision of light in Elaine's home I haven't been able to stay focused throughout one day. I never discern an image when I have the episodes of epiphany. But I can feel a spirit, an energy, that I can only deem is cosmic based on how I feel when I regain my normal sensorium. I have asked to see Sister Josephine in the con The law enforcer puts the diary down and grabs an envelope from his jacket. It has the escutcheon of a cardinal, as a broken wax seal. The law enforcer opens the envelope, and takes out the letter. Dear Detective Silo, I joined Saint Lucy's to gain better insight into my visions through study and meditations. While also protect my sight from the meddling and forces outside the quiet peace of the nunnery. Thinking of Elaine I see a kindred spirit who was unable to find peace with divine influence. But from what you said about her, she may have seen or been seen by something dangerous or deadly. I end this letter with a location, from where you can find the information you seek , which may lead you to Elaine or at least to a better comprehension of what she is experiencing. 1023 Castle Road at Thirteenth and East street God be with you, Sister Magda Post Script Please Be Careful for WATN Chapter 2: Elaine Ghostbusters 2 ? NOTES escutcheon - a coat of arms for a roman catholic cardinal name for nameless in the bible [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_names_for_the_biblical_nameless ] Saint Lucy of Syracuse - patron saint of the eyes for roman catholics For WATN Chapter 2: Elaine Ghosbusters 2 @CRLiterature ? My Work Audio Series https://www.kobo.com/us/en/series/richard-murray-tip-jar-audios Ebook Series https://www.kobo.com/series/richard-murray-short-story-collection Gallery of writing https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/gallery/81311721/my-tales-or-poetry CRliterature content https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/gallery/97552463/crliterature-content Tip Jar https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/tier/Tip-Jar-to-HDdeviant-902770076 #elaine #ghostbusters2 #watn #wherearetheynow #watnc2 #crliterature #hddeviant #richardmurray #richardmurrayhumblr
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  5. @ProfD Since you don't know all I can say is, keep that truth and the rest of your views. All I will say is I know and I differ.
  6. @Troy I am not going to answer your question outside of the following. I am stateless and think what you will @aka Contrarian like the romani in europe, the okinawans in japan,the nuba in egypt/kemet, many peoples spend so long abused by a larger populace, more potent group that their being dominated becomes a heritage. What Pioneer said led me to realize the key to when this happened, was 1865. From 1492 to 1865 no black person could say the usa was better than canada or mexico , either they were equal to the usa, Or after england banned enslavement or mexico banned enslavement ala jonas caballo, both canada or mexico made slavery illegal while slavery was still legal in the usa. Then from 1865 to 1980 the black wife was still shackled by the white mate, but he spent time explaining why she was enslaved/ alal the prison system + sharecropping+ absent government funding for anything. But in the 1865 time, before and after was key. As henry louis gates jr admited, the black church pondered whether to use violence or nonviolence. I am still trying to find out this meeting and vote, but from what he says, by one vote, nonviolence won and , i argue the rest is history. Pioneer says what country is better, but while modernity, 2026 can argue the usa is better, in the 1800s, the usa wasn't better for black people than any other country. So black leaders embracing the usa as a home was not based on laws or finance, but hope or faith. And sadly, black people, the black wife, paid for that gamble with modernity, consequences. @Pioneer1 thankyou for your prose, You expose a key point in black history in the usa, and how black people are to blame for the current condition en large in the usa. I think aka is correct. as Nina Simone said, black people are willing to march but not willing to die, she blamed malcolm/martin and others death on black people in the usa, saying they are willing to march but not die but you expose the source of that choice and it isn't whites but black people in the past.
  7. @Troy i have said before in this very forum many many times, i am stateless, from my view. I know the legal standing i have by the white country I live in, but I have my own position to myself. @aka Contrarian Interesting point , if we are all honest, most black people have only ever complained about the usa or the english colonies preceding it, cause most black people were unhappy in the usa or the english colonies that preceded at as an environment. But well said, most white people say they love the usa , not just that it is their home, and that love is based on opportunities and betterment not just for themselves but their community, which was born by any means necessary. The black people who call the usa home have never been able to call the sua a land of opportunity or betterment for the black masses, maybe for themsleves, but never for a majority of black people like whites, this the complaint heritage you speak of and allude to through troy and others prose. Well said. and yes, black unity in the usa has always been elusive and i think complicated because black people don't have a unfiied relationship to the usa. all whites, can say their forebears came here willingly, for better or worse. but all blacks can't say that and time can't change that. What a question on WEB DUbois. I don't know. It is a great thought experiment. The problem is DUbois died unlike his heyday. He was arguably a garveyite in his final years who was used as a tool by whites to get garvey out the usa when younger so... Dubois is tough. I think to the point you mentioned, Dubois would dislike the modern complaint culture in the black populace in usa , simply because black people have been doing it for 250 years, alongside, trying everything from elected officials to starting businessess and never able to really get the majority of black people in a positive place. Good enigmatic quesiton. I don't know what tribe dubois would be in modernity. It is funny, the creation of the constitution holds the problem to categorization in the usa. The constitution seems to only suggest the human race, but the reality of the usa by the very person who wrote it is against that notion. And even though I know people of all racial types [phenotype/age/religion/or others ]who are done with categorizing , like yourself, i also know people who are proud categorizers of all said racial types as well... Maybe the answer is for a country to start one day that doesn't merely have the words of the constitution but is peopled by people who actually believe in unbiased humanity, a kind of universal individualism. I saw a thing called asian 30 or something like that, and an actor, indian /of india descent. he said, i quote, he knows there are many in the usa who will never consider him american. Andh here is someone whose parents willingly came to the usa, has earned millions in hollywood, and admits that no matter what he does, there are those who will never consider the usa his home. I think it sums up the challenges of the future at least. In my head maybe the states identity has to return,... before the war between the states people in the usa considered themselves of the states they lived in , not american. So, maybe that will return. @ProfD I fortunately plus unfortunately have traveled quite a bit and i know modern haiti isn't for me, I know too many haitians, even if modern haiti were to turn around financially,, turn around greatly, it isn't for me. But I would be very happy for the legacy of the Haiti of yore.
  8. Queried in this post https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12742-favourite-black-intellectuals/ MY ANSWER I will answer how I feel about some Black intellectuals already mentioned in the comments. James Baldwin- I love his cutting honesty, from himself or to others. He admitted that he was unhappy in the usa in a complete way. and he admitted he returned to the usa when he saw the usa was extended everywhere outside. He didn't call usa home de facto cause he was born here, which so many Black DOSers say stupidly. Our forebears were enslaved , adult to children, don't tell me the usa is home to black children living in utter hell who were forced here. They need to choose the usa as home, it isn't de facto. Baldwin admitted something I rarely hear any black person admit to. That all/most of the black elders around him hated white people. Even today so many black DOSers seem to be apologist for black dislike of whites as if whites didn't earn this. I love the fact that he was off camera vibrantly homosexual. So many black DOSers hide their true selves their whole lives. Many Black militants who want to kill whites hide their whole lives in the usa, it is silly. Many Black whitephiles who dislike other black people for being black hide their whole lives in the usa, , acting like they like being around other black people, it is silly. Baldwin was very honest. Angela Davis- I like that she is a survivor. and embraces that the battle has to be continued by the next generation. It isn't up for one person to be the leader and be at the frong forever and if the next generations aren't willing , then the results will be what they will be. I will never Farrakhan- is a good reader of the environment, he recognized black men across the usa was looking for guidance, but sadly he wasted the opportunity to guide and instead convinced the black men of what they don't like about the usa. url https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12742-favourite-black-intellectuals/#findComment-81681 MY ANSWER NOT GIVEN hmmm My favorite black intellectual? Well, how do I define a black intellectual? how do I define someone as black? how do I define an intellectual? Black is a word which can designate a phenotypical race. A phenotypical race is a collection of people who exist within a range of physical features. An intellectual is any human who uses their intellect and displays to another. this includes all humanity. A black intellectual is any black person. Who are my favorite black intellectuals? Black intellectuals i favor, i prefer for some reason. What are the reasons I will favor an intellectual? most potent in my rearing, a black intellectual who has a huge role the way in my mental development, the intellectuals about children are important. aligns to my thinking, intellectuals that i have the most congruence with from my own intellect. Who are the Black Intellectuals I favor based on the reasons stated? My parents. Two mahogany skinned black people. One male, One female, communicated about all sorts of issues, had opposing positions but never went to blows, could accept unresolved differences of opinion absent the need to proseltyize/preach, both liked to learn and listen to all black or non black. They showed me how varied being black is. They knew all about black history from around the earth, it wasn't just about the usa, and they lived thrugh the 1900s in such a way, they knew the truth about alot of black history in the usa in the 1900s, that many black people have been lied to about, even by other black people. And they also made sure i had something that too too few black people have,a truly positive black environment. As a child I not only had a loving home, but 99% of my neighbors were black people who were positive themselves, the most local businesses were all black owned, my public schools were all black administered, 99% being all. So i grew up surrounded by black positivity. Which sadly, is something too few black people are raised around anywhere on earth. When I look at my youth the biggest opponent to happiness was the nypd and the larger harlem and the larger manhattan and the larger NYC. So I enjoyed not only their intellect but the intellectual environment they provided for me. Said environment being a rarity among black folk, not just the apartment or house, but the larger immediate community was positive. In this very forum i have read so many black people talk about their local community as dangerous and various forms or levels of negativity, it is sad but I am thankful to my parents as black intellectuals for comprehending how important it is for black children to be around black positivity, not merely in the home but outside it in the near locale. Many black intellectuals are well known, like dubois or douglass or nkrumah or others. But the ones that are closest aligned to my thinking are...Marcus Garvey , Jean JAcques Dessalines, Brother Malcolm. Garvey through his comprehension of what home is for black descended of enslaved or other black people when it comes to the non black . Dessalines because he comprehended the truth about black descended of enslaved people in the american continent,we are unique peoples and don't have to mirror or match others in the american continent, none of whom are similar. Malcolm because he literally engineered the nation of islam and didn't use the nation of islam for profit, he showed alegendary quality of leadership to a peoples who have no money, true advocacy. 05302026 https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12742-favourite-black-intellectuals/#findComment-81703 @Troy i have said before in this very forum many many times, i am stateless, from my view. I know the legal standing i have by the white country I live in, but I have my own position to myself. @aka Contrarian Interesting point , if we are all honest, most black people have only ever complained about the usa or the english colonies preceding it, cause most black people were unhappy in the usa or the english colonies that preceded at as an environment. But well said, most white people say they love the usa , not just that it is their home, and that love is based on opportunities and betterment not just for themselves but their community, which was born by any means necessary. The black people who call the usa home have never been able to call the sua a land of opportunity or betterment for the black masses, maybe for themsleves, but never for a majority of black people like whites, this the complaint heritage you speak of and allude to through troy and others prose. Well said. and yes, black unity in the usa has always been elusive and i think complicated because black people don't have a unfiied relationship to the usa. all whites, can say their forebears came here willingly, for better or worse. but all blacks can't say that and time can't change that. What a question on WEB DUbois. I don't know. It is a great thought experiment. The problem is DUbois died unlike his heyday. He was arguably a garveyite in his final years who was used as a tool by whites to get garvey out the usa when younger so... Dubois is tough. I think to the point you mentioned, Dubois would dislike the modern complaint culture in the black populace in usa , simply because black people have been doing it for 250 years, alongside, trying everything from elected officials to starting businessess and never able to really get the majority of black people in a positive place. Good enigmatic quesiton. I don't know what tribe dubois would be in modernity. It is funny, the creation of the constitution holds the problem to categorization in the usa. The constitution seems to only suggest the human race, but the reality of the usa by the very person who wrote it is against that notion. And even though I know people of all racial types [phenotype/age/religion/or others ]who are done with categorizing , like yourself, i also know people who are proud categorizers of all said racial types as well... Maybe the answer is for a country to start one day that doesn't merely have the words of the constitution but is peopled by people who actually believe in unbiased humanity, a kind of universal individualism. I saw a thing called asian 30 or something like that, and an actor, indian /of india descent. he said, i quote, he knows there are many in the usa who will never consider him american. Andh here is someone whose parents willingly came to the usa, has earned millions in hollywood, and admits that no matter what he does, there are those who will never consider the usa his home. I think it sums up the challenges of the future at least. In my head maybe the states identity has to return,... before the war between the states people in the usa considered themselves of the states they lived in , not american. So, maybe that will return. @ProfD I fortunately plus unfortunately have traveled quite a bit and i know modern haiti isn't for me, I know too many haitians, even if modern haiti were to turn around financially,, turn around greatly, it isn't for me. But I would be very happy for the legacy of the Haiti of yore. 05/30/2026 https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12742-favourite-black-intellectuals/#findComment-81723 @Troy I am not going to answer your question outside of the following. I am stateless and think what you will @aka Contrarian like the romani in europe, the okinawans in japan,the nuba in egypt/kemet, many peoples spend so long abused by a larger populace, more potent group that their being dominated becomes a heritage. What Pioneer said led me to realize the key to when this happened, was 1865. From 1492 to 1865 no black person could say the usa was better than canada or mexico , either they were equal to the usa, Or after england banned enslavement or mexico banned enslavement ala jonas caballo, both canada or mexico made slavery illegal while slavery was still legal in the usa. Then from 1865 to 1980 the black wife was still shackled by the white mate, but he spent time explaining why she was enslaved/ alal the prison system + sharecropping+ absent government funding for anything. But in the 1865 time, before and after was key. As henry louis gates jr admited, the black church pondered whether to use violence or nonviolence. I am still trying to find out this meeting and vote, but from what he says, by one vote, nonviolence won and , i argue the rest is history. Pioneer says what country is better, but while modernity, 2026 can argue the usa is better, in the 1800s, the usa wasn't better for black people than any other country. So black leaders embracing the usa as a home was not based on laws or finance, but hope or faith. And sadly, black people, the black wife, paid for that gamble with modernity, consequences. @Pioneer1 thankyou for your prose, You expose a key point in black history in the usa, and how black people are to blame for the current condition en large in the usa. I think aka is correct. as Nina Simone said, black people are willing to march but not willing to die, she blamed malcolm/martin and others death on black people in the usa, saying they are willing to march but not die but you expose the source of that choice and it isn't whites but black people in the past. 05302026 MY ENLARGED @Troy I said I am stateless, whatever you are thinking, please think it. but the only answer i give to your query is i am stateless, as I comprehend being stateless. @aka Contrarian In the usa, from 1492 to 1865 it was because the white mate had the black wife chained/enslaved. A wife by force of male arms , chained to the bed, she can't go anywhere. From 1865 to 1980 was a critical time. That time dictated the wife today. From 1865 to 1965 the white mate kept the chain on by force of arms but made up rules justifying it to the mate. From 1965 to 1980, the white mate had kept the black wife chained so long, he started to let her off the chain but the years on the chain did their work. Many abused women after enough time accept the abuse without being policed or forced in the house. From 1980 to 2026/modernity your description is a good summary for blacks in the usa , simply because, from 1492 to 2026 the usa has been a terror for 95% of black people by no fault of their own while a fault of the environment of the usa or the european colonies that precede it that are white controlled. If you look at okinawans / the romani or gypsies, many peoples on earth who have been enslaved to a more dominant populace for centuries , no longer need to be cghained to remain in the house so to speak. Look at NAtive Americans in the usa . No people are more stateless or abused than native americans in the usa. Most people in the usa literally go to school hearing how native americans were in these lands beofre anyone else and were opposed to the european colonies or the usa in majority and yet, most people act like the native american was praying for the constitution and amultiracial society of peoples from around the world. so... it happens. James Forten , again, he fought alongside george washignton, ablack business owner, who could not be ignorant that 99% of black people in the usa were enslaved, and would still be enslaved if the usa was created. And yet, he fought for the creation of the usa. so.. IF anything part of the wife's problem is a part of her body, a small part but very influential to her body, yearns to be controlled by her mate. @Pioneer1 You know what is sad, and I wonder @aka Contrarian thoughts to the following... Before the war between the states, started, Frederick Douglass and HArriet Tubman had a schism/problem. HArriet Tubman wanted Black people to go as far away from the usa as possible, to the then, frozen north of canada. But Douglass wanted black people to stay in the usa. Now, comprehend this is before the war between the states. so Frederick Douglass literally wants black people to stay in a country where they are legally enslaved and not go to a country where they would not be legally enslaved. Why am I saying this? First thank you for getting me to think on this. But, beyond that, you always talk about better options, but the Black people like frederick Douglass who publicly admitted, he didn't want black people freed from slavery in the usa to leave to canada or haiti or mexico or anywhere, even though he knew in haiti or canada or mexico for whatever poverty black freed people would face, , they would be legally free. I think in cheap retrospect, it answers Aka Contrarians point about the abused wife. At the end of the day, in the 1800s white people in the usa, didn't want black people to leave. and all the leaders who supported staying in the usa in an integrated, and sequentially abusable way to whites: douglass/dubois the younger/booker t /ida b wells were supported by whites, and those who advocated leaving: garvey or segregation exodusters were hindered by whites to destroy their movements. But, it leads to the truth, black leaders who supported black people remaining in the usa in the critical time circa 1865 , aided by whites, were able to get the largrer black populace to stay put even though in the 1800s no black person could argue betterment in the usa over canada or mexico or haiti or really anywhere else. Yes, in modernity , 2026 , an argument can be made, but the black populace of today, reached today because in the past we didn't do what harriet tubman suggested and leave as much as possible outside the usa. And yes, she died in the usa, but she was an old woman whose family had chosen to settle in the usa, so she did. But, yeah, you and many black people always speak of bette roptions but even when better options were available, in the late 1800s, black people advocated for staying in the usa. The wife had an idea in her head absent merit but supported by the husband, that the house of the abusive white husband was no better than the neighbors even when the neighbors actually didn't have chains for her. And, again, no one today can go back in the past, no one can. The past can not be changed. bUT again, the assessment of the past is wrong by many black people. Black leadership simply failed Pioneer at a critical stage, late 1800s. I can use other peoples as my example. The taiwanese real problem is chang kai check, fled to formosa, and instead of making a path to truly unite with head bowed to mao's china, he set up the idea that taiwan was the true continuity of china, even though he himself knew, that not to be true. Negative leadership has massive consequences for any people. When I look at the jucnture of africa/asia/europe, the middle east, i sea a horde of bad leaderhsip from external + internal agents. People long dead but the influence of what they did lingers. Black people in the usa are living with the consequences of the choices of black leaderhsip in the mid to late 1800s. So yes, arguably, Black DOSers have no better option financially , than the usa. in 2026, but better options existed in the past and black leaders, with white support, successfully made blacks en large choose wrong. Thank you and Aka contrarian. Going forward, I think as someone said in this forum, i forget who and paraphrase , that the modern black immigrant is the future of the black populace in the usa. In cheap retrospect i concur, because, Black DOSers are in a trap of their own making. Black DOS leaders, not all, but most, gambled our populace on the USA being something it will never be, being something black DOSers are willing to wait happily for, or work through all walls to reach. They chose poorly. But the modern black immigrants approach the usa as the whites and most others, a people who have never been enslaved, and willingly come to the usa. As the black populace mixes in itself, DOSers side modern immigrants and other blacks, it will create the change. So all will be well, it will take time. and Blacl DOS heritage in the usa will combine with black modern immigrant to make a new black culture in the usa that will suit the usa better. 05312026 https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12742-favourite-black-intellectuals/#findComment-81728 @ProfD Since you don't know all I can say is, keep that truth and the rest of your views. All I will say is I know and I differ. 05312026 EXTENDED COMMENT @ProfD Black people in the 1800s knew of canada through simple communication as human beings, people gossip, even the enslaved, who were denied the right to write or read could still talk and overheard and gossiped and whispered. Again the one constant between black people who call the usa home is how most keep all their viewpoints of everythingt o justify their position in any way possible, like they are trying to convince it through.
  9. I will answer how I feel about some Black intellectuals already mentioned in the comments. James Baldwin- I love his cutting honesty, from himself or to others. He admitted that he was unhappy in the usa in a complete way. and he admitted he returned to the usa when he saw the usa was extended everywhere outside. He didn't call usa home de facto cause he was born here, which so many Black DOSers say stupidly. Our forebears were enslaved , adult to children, don't tell me the usa is home to black children living in utter hell who were forced here. They need to choose the usa as home, it isn't de facto. Baldwin admitted something I rarely hear any black person admit to. That all/most of the black elders around him hated white people. Even today so many black DOSers seem to be apologist for black dislike of whites as if whites didn't earn this. I love the fact that he was off camera vibrantly homosexual. So many black DOSers hide their true selves their whole lives. Many Black militants who want to kill whites hide their whole lives in the usa, it is silly. Many Black whitephiles who dislike other black people for being black hide their whole lives in the usa, , acting like they like being around other black people, it is silly. Baldwin was very honest. Angela Davis- I like that she is a survivor. and embraces that the battle has to be continued by the next generation. It isn't up for one person to be the leader and be at the frong forever and if the next generations aren't willing , then the results will be what they will be. I will never Farrakhan- is a good reader of the environment, he recognized black men across the usa was looking for guidance, but sadly he wasted the opportunity to guide and instead convinced the black men of what they don't like about the usa.
  10. Lyrics which is literature from Rob Base+ EZ Rock+ JAmes Brown
  11. The song was produced by Rob Base, DJ E-Z Rock, and William Hamilton and built around the Think break sample and other elements from Lyn Collins' 1972 song "Think (About It)." Rhonda Parris was brought in by Profile Records to sing the hook. video https://youtu.be/phOW-CZJWT0?si=7HGpgSzfprK6NAJz LYRICS Right about now, you're about to be possessed By the sounds of MC Rob Base and DJ, EZ Rock It takes two to make a thing go right It takes two to make it outta sight It takes two to make a thing go right It takes two to make it outta sight I wanna rock right now I'm Rob Base and I came to get down I'm not internationally known But I'm known to rock the microphone Because I get stupid, I mean outrageous Stay away from me if you're contagious 'Cause I'm the winner, no, I'm not a loser To be an M.C. is what I choose-a Ladies love me, girls adore me I mean even the ones who never saw me Like the way that I rhyme at a show The reason why, man, I don't know So let's go, 'cause It takes two to make a thing go right It takes two to make it outta sight It takes two to make a thing go right It takes two to make it outta sight My name is Rob, I gotta real funky concept Listen up, 'cause I'm gonna keep you in step I got an idea that I wanna share You don't like it? So what, I don't care I'm number one, do you know, I like comp Bring all the suckers 'cause all them I'll stomp Bold and black, but I won't protect All of my followers 'cause all I want is respect I'm not a doctor, put them in rapture A slick brother that can easy outfox ya 'Cause I'm Rob, the last name Base, yeah And on the mic, I'm known to be the freshest So let's start, it shouldn't be too hard I'm not a sucker, so I don't need a bodyguard I won't fess, wear a bulletproof vest Don't smoke Buddha, can't stand sex, yes It takes two to make a thing go right It takes two to make it outta sight It takes two to make a thing go right It takes two to make it outta sight The situation that the Base is in I'm kinda stingy that's why I don't wanna lend A funky rhyme to a foe or a good friend But listen up 'cause I want you to comprehend 'Cause I'm the leader, the man superior I take care of ya and then ya get wearier So just sit, my rhymes are not counterfeit The record sells which makes this one a hit It won't hurt to listen to Red Alert Take off your shirt Make sure it don't hit the dirt I like the kids; the guys, the girls I want the ducats 'cause this is Rob Base's world I'm on a mission, ya better just listen To my rhymes 'cause I'm all about dissin', 'cause It takes two to make a thing go right It takes two to make it outta sight It takes two to make a thing go right It takes two to make it outta sight (hit it) I stand alone, don't need anyone 'Cause I'm Rob, just came to have fun Don't need friends that act like foes 'Cause I'm Rob Base, the one who knows About things that make ya get weary Don't cheer me, just hear me Out 'cause I got the clout, shout (ho!) Before I turn the party out I won't stutter Project my voice, speak clearly So you can be my choice On stage or on record Go to the Wiz and select it Take it off the rack, if it's wack put it back I like the Whopper, f- the Big Mac If you want static, so let's go So, throw up your hands Go for what you know Bro', I got an ego Yo, talkin' to me? No, oh 'Cause Rob is in the front, EZ Rock is on the back-up We're not soft, so you better just slack up 'Cause I'm cool, calm just like a breeze Rock the mic' with the help of EZ Rock on the set, the music plays Only cuts the records that I say It takes two to make a thing go right It takes two to make it outta sight It takes two to make a thing go right It takes two to make it outta sight All right, now, EZ Rock Now, when I count to three I want you to get busy You ready now? One, two, three, get loose now! It takes two to make It takes two to make It takes two to make It takes two to make It takes two to make It takes two to make It takes two to make It takes two to make a thing It takes two It takes two It takes two to make a thing It takes two to make It takes two to make It takes two to make It takes two to make It takes two to make Songwriters: James Brown, Robert Ginyard Jr.. DJ EZ Rock, Rob Base Think (about it) source material Sung by Lyn Collins Written by JAmes Brown https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_(About_It) Rhonda Parris is the voice on the record, not Lyn Collins https://www.npr.org/2018/09/18/648850102/the-voice-behind-one-of-hip-hops-most-famous-hooks Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCByeJsq65M LYRICS Hey, fellas I'm talking to you, you and you too Do you guys know who I'm talking to? Those of you who go out and stay Out all night and half the next day And expect us to be home When you get there But let me tell you something The sisters are not going for that no more 'Cause we realize two things That you aren't doing anything for us We can better do by ourselves So from now on, we gonna use What we got to get what we want So, you'd better think, think Now's the time when we have respect That's the thing I never will forget Now baby, I got a lot to live And a whole lotta loving That a woman could give, yeah But before I give it up, I gotta think, think What the future holds for me Is too far ahead to see I don't need no heartache I can't stand no misery Let me think, think It takes two to make a thing go right It takes two to make it outta sight All right, yeah Don't say it's easy Know it can be rough Just plain living Sometimes it's kinda tough If it's not in your vision Don't make no decision Hey, yeah, all right So, I'm laying my cards on the table When it comes to taking care of me I know I'm able You may not call it true But I won't do nothing that you won't do Said I won't do nothing that you won't do So think about the good things Come on and think about the right things You got to think about me too Come on and think, think about you Come on and think about the good things Come on and think about the right things Come on and think about me too Songwriters: James Brown. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Takes_Two_(Rob_Base_%26_DJ_E-Z_Rock_song) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Base_%26_DJ_E-Z_Rock
  12. @Troy a liar isn't based on deliberation, it is based on function. A liar is someone who lies whether they intend to or not. It interesting that you think a liar is only one who wants to deceive . As for what you keep linking to , I refute that as evidence of change between douyin and tiktok . But I am not in the mood to explain. You believe what you want, and I am not interested in changing your mind to anything. And lastly , there is no need for sorry for I was not rude, i was truthful and the truth hasn't changed. it isn't false, i explained how you are all the same and it is the truth. You may dislike or oppose it, but it is the truth . And nothing has disproven it. All of you have shared the same prose that proves what aspect of each of you is the same. But again, I am not interested in proselytizing. You reject it, ok. No problem, but there is nothing to talk about IT isn't a disagreement. I never said any of you or those like you from the past or in the future don't have the right to call the usa home. My point is those who don't call the usa home whose forebears have been enslaved have always existed , like me, as well, and have as equal a right to their position. And as said two groups have a deep problem historically in making a collective action by blacks, it is problematic that black people like you keep saying things like the following land stronger, again, that is the language of proselytization. My arugment is the truth, it isn't about changing minds or landing stronger or proving to those who disagree/dislike it . that is what you think, interesting. Again, black people like you who call the usa their home from james forten to you to those in the future, keep suggesting black people who don't have some ignorance or dysfunctional position. No nation/country or government started exists absent the complete plethora of human life, which range from the most positive to the most negative. This is about calling a place home. this isn't about the existence or nonexistence of strife , which in my mind has nothing to do with calling a place home. Not australia.
  13. POST, has the multiimages that relate to the details below https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/art/Pokemon-Dance-Charity-2026-1338181933 CONTENT For the @Charity-Guild project explained below https://discord.com/channels/619731511716872205/972155719136706610/1507523547449262091 v ideo celebration https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-fMlGZUvZk Flamenco Sudowoodo Sudowoodo is dancing Flamenco aside Bellossom, in an old quarter of Sacromonte in Granada. An old poster of Alhambra at night looks on to them. I forgot to put the guitarist:) Which pokemon would you have as the guitarist ? For the image , think of this song when you see it. Paco de Lucia , Almoraima, studio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xdnH44vIrQ If you want some more Paco De Lucia Entre Dos Aguas, live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oyhlad64-s Almoraima live, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmps3Cc-5_0 Chanela https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ktp0vke3jz0 Zambra Chitana from the Romani most know as gypsies of Sacromonte https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTOdPkph0q0 Breakdancing Sudowoodo Pseudowoo∞ doing a move as Klefki with gold teeth, magnemite with a gold chain bringing together love or hate, and a klefki with a boombox car keys and a swiss army knife, look on. The graffiti says Dark Balls Rule Mew Was Here Ass Gatum with a female figure, her initial being J.L. Breakdancing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SI2dBoS18I4 Graffiti https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdivM8zBdik Pagan Dance Sudowoodo Sudowoodo imitates the Lord of the Summerisle Meloetta is Willow Mcgregor, portrayed by Brit Ecklund Dianci is Miss Rose, portrayed by Diane Cilento From left to right in the background: Celebi, Solar, Gothika, Milotic, Blastoise, Florges, Lucario, Scraggy, Meowth, Wobafett, unknown, Miss Magius Sudowoodo and this village of Pokémon is watching a wicker man burn. Before the burning Sudowoodo and a pokemon trainer had a conversation. Sudowoodo: "Welcome Fool , You have come of your own free will to the appointed place. The game is over. " Trainer: "Game, what game" S: "The game of the hunted leading the hunter. You came here to find Pikachu,but it is we who have found you and brought you here. And controlled your every thought and action since you arrived ... Principally, we persuaded you to think Pikachu was being held as a sacrifice because our grassland went barren last year." T: "I know your grassland failed, i saw the photograph" S: "Oh yes, it failed alright. Disastrously so, for the first time since Arceus came here... The blossom came, but the fruit withered and died on the bow. That must not happen again this year! It is our most earnest belief that the best way of preventing this is to offer to our god of the sun and to the goddess of our plains the most acceptable sacrifice that lies in our power. Animals are fine but their acceptibility is limited. A little child is even better... not nearly as effective as the right kind of adult" T: "what do you mean, the right kind of adult" S: "...You trainer are the right kind of adult, as our pain staking research has revealed. you uniquely are the one we need" Meloetta: "A man who would come here of his own free will" Diancie: "A man who has come here with the power of a king, by representing the Rangers" M: "A man who has come here as a virgin" D: "A man who has come here as a fool" To see an audio recording of this pagan ritual https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRKaAiBy-Go the capture https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IOHshhYof4 IF you like my work, I accept commissions https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/commission/Single-Coloring-Page-1732448 Ink gallery https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/gallery/47013691/comic-coloring-pages Sudowoodo https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/gallery?q=sudowoodo #charity #dance #pokemon #sudowoodo #hddeviant #pagan #breakdancing #flamenco #diancie #meloetta #magnemite #klefki #klink #graffiti #bellossom #alhambra SHARING sudowoodo dancing for charity https://www.deviantart.com/hddeviant/art/Pokemon-Dance-Charity-2026-1338181933 which is your favorite dance of Sudowoodo? Flamenco/Breakdancing/PAgan ? #charity #dance #pokemon #sudowoodo #hddeviant #pagan #breakdancing #flamenco #diancie #meloetta #magnemite #klefki #klink #graffiti #bellossom #alhambra #richardmurrayhumblr #richardmurray
  14. @Troy I didn't ignore your words, but i have nothing to say on that. I am not here to proselytize . I despise proselytizers. That issue is at the simple point of you have your source of information and I have mine. You have stated your conclusion to what you know, I stated mine. what more is there to say? I can't think of anything. I am not interested in changing your mind. so... if you want to call my muteness on that topic being ignorant, that is your choice, but I can accept when nothing can be said anymore by me. I don't always, but i do sometimes. I do think all of said people in said list, have a common speech/position regardless of the variousness in other thinkings. It is a conflation as all of said folk in my view, share a common idea. and an idea that matters in the larger context of the black populace in the usa or the european colonies that preceded it. what does it mean to be human? well ok, I comprehend your position. I can say that 100%

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