Black American vs AfroAmerican

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From The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (1776)

"The various modes of worship, which prevailed in the Roman world, were all considered by the people, as equally true; by the philosopher, as equally false; and by the magistrate, as equally useful."

The same holds true for the concept of race. 

....considered by the masses, as equally true; by the educated, as equally false; and by the plutocracy as equally useful.

 

[Chevdove]

13 hours ago, frankster said:

We Know.....every scientific school of thought we have that has a bearing on this issue comes back supporting African and Africans being the source of all Human beings

 

 

 

No, not all Africa and Africans are the source of ALL human beings because Neanderthals are NOT African, they do not have afros and many other genetics that stem from the source of Africans.

 

Human beings even today show genetic traits that prove their is another separate source of human origins, a more primitive type of human that roamed this earth, separate from Africans in existence right now on earth today; otherwise the Bible would be a lie about Eve, the African female, having sex with that other human and giving him 'his seed'; of which she gave birth to nine months later after the Original Sin occurred:

[15] And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed;

it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
[16] Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception;

in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband,

and he shall rule over thee. GENESIS 3:15.

 

Ask yourselves, why is this scripture actually referencing 'the seed' and conception and bringing forth children, meaning 

reproduction. Obviously this referencing is regarding 'sex', a sex act that had occurred. This has not been taught to the African American

descendants of slaves (DOS) even in the Church where it should be the most vital foundation to learn and to understand because without this understanding, we are falsely led to believe that there is only 'one human origin' in this world. Humans do NOT reflect this 'One human Race' ideology simply because the word 'Race' is based on an incomplete scientific classification of all humans today. That term, 'Race' is made up by modern mankind today and brings confusion because it does not fit any scientific order for the classification of any living thing. There is no proof of a single source for all humans today, however, genetics does show that humans today reveal a distinction in species. The scientific classification of 'speciation' can be addressed, but so far as I can understand, there is no proof of a single source for all humans whether, modern or primitive. Primitive humans like the Neanderthals are not defined to have been 'CREATED' but modern humans are defined as such in the Bible based upon an anatomically straight male human origin. No one can provide any origin for Primitive humans. The ancient scriptures never said that the Primitive human that Eve has sex with was 'created' by the Creator, so no one knows of his origins, only that he existed on this earth and the prophets repeatedly wrote that he was intersexed all throughout the Bible. He could not produce no anatomically straight male offspring at all. That is why he stalked Eve in Eden. 

 

 

[15] And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed;

it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. GENESIS 3:15.

 

*His Head versus His Heel*

 

 

 

The Roman Empire 

 

 

 

"From The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (1776)"
 

I guess this was the greatest government on this planet at one point in time. 

[Pioneer1]

Troy

No cognitive dissonance is required to hold more than two thoughts in my head at the same time.

 

I know...lol.
And that describes YOUR thinking when it comes to race.

 

-On one hand you claim that race is a social construct and acknowledge there are Black people.
-On the other hand you claim that multiple races don't exist and don't accept that they do.

If you accept that race is an idea constructed by society how can you deny the details OF that construction by claiming multiple races don't exist?

You have a site dedicated to "Black" literature.
What do you mean when you say "Black"???

Yeah, apply your subject pioneer-race-scale to these women and enlighten us.  All the while proving the absurdity different race
 

Lol.....
Martin Luther King and Malcolm X and many other AfroAmerican leaders acknowledged they reality of different races, were THEY "absurd"?
 

Many people in Congress and judges around the nation acknowledge that multiple races exist and promote laws to circumvent racism in America.
Are you smarter than them?

Do you know something THEY don't know that makes their behavior silly and absurd to focus on such "nonsense"???

Come on out of De'Nile bro, and dry yourself off.....lol.



 

frankster

 

We Know.....every scientific school of thought we have that has a bearing on this issue comes back supporting African and Africans being the source of all Human beings
 

That's simply not true.
They don't know....they merely theorize based on evidence they find.
The evidence that contradicts this....such as the evidence they find in MesoAmerica.....is simply ignored because it doesn't fit the "out of Africa" narrative they CURRENTLY promote.
 

The fact is, human beings today simply don't KNOW.
They can theorize and hypothesize but they don't KNOW because they weren't around to see it....those are the FACTS.
 

 

 

Racism Race and Races only has reality in a social setting where it is accepted as true and enforce it by law and practice
 

"only has reality" is still REALITY none the less.

Like telling a person, "You're only rich because your father left you the money".
Yeah...but they're still rich...lol.

 

 

 

 

Same as how only in a game of monopoly do you get $200 for passing Go...because the players accept it as true and enforce it by rule and play.

 

But the game exists.
And you're forced to play it.

That White police officer who is looking for suspects WILL acknowledge race and use race to communicate with and identity the suspects he's looking for regardless of how much YOU think he shouldn't.

Laws and rules acknowledge race and races whether or not we "think' they should be acknowledged or not.

[frankster]

11 hours ago, Chevdove said:

 

 

No, not all Africa and Africans are the source of ALL human beings because Neanderthals are NOT African, they do not have afros and many other genetics that stem from the source of Africans.

According to what I know all hominids  hominins homo and human have one common ancestor who originated in Africa....

As they travel around the globe over many years of mutation they develop variation and diverged  that resulted in speciation...

Neanderthal  are I think the are descendants of Homo Erectus....Homo Erectus is out of Africa....

 

11 hours ago, Chevdove said:

 

Human beings even today show genetic traits that prove their is another separate source of human origins, a more primitive type of human that roamed this earth, separate from Africans in existence right now on earth today; otherwise the Bible would be a lie about Eve, the African female, having sex with that other human and giving him 'his seed'; of which she gave birth to nine months later after the Original Sin occurred:

Human beings that share the same contemporaneous time period will and do intermix.

 

11 hours ago, Chevdove said:

[15] And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed;

it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
[16] Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception;

in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband,

and he shall rule over thee. GENESIS 3:15.

Tell me why the Serpent is a human?

 

11 hours ago, Chevdove said:

 

Ask yourselves, why is this scripture actually referencing 'the seed' and conception and bringing forth children, meaning 

reproduction. Obviously this referencing is regarding 'sex', a sex act that had occurred. This has not been taught to the African American

descendants of slaves (DOS) even in the Church where it should be the most vital foundation to learn and to understand because without this understanding, we are falsely led to believe that there is only 'one human origin' in this world. Humans do NOT reflect this 'One human Race' ideology simply because the word 'Race' is based on an incomplete scientific classification of all humans today. That term, 'Race' is made up by modern mankind today and brings confusion because it does not fit any scientific order for the classification of any living thing. There is no proof of a single source for all humans today, however, genetics does show that humans today reveal a distinction in species. The scientific classification of 'speciation' can be addressed, but so far as I can understand, there is no proof of a single source for all humans whether, modern or primitive. Primitive humans like the Neanderthals are not defined to have been 'CREATED' but modern humans are defined as such in the Bible based upon an anatomically straight male human origin. No one can provide any origin for Primitive humans. The ancient scriptures never said that the Primitive human that Eve has sex with was 'created' by the Creator, so no one knows of his origins, only that he existed on this earth and the prophets repeatedly wrote that he was intersexed all throughout the Bible. He could not produce no anatomically straight male offspring at all. That is why he stalked Eve in Eden. 

The whole ideology of Races was invent and propagated by racist and racism..

So far all arguments to support its existence or reality scientifically biological or genetically has been disproven

I do not question its Authenticity as a Social Convention or Construct.....As it effects are very real in societies were it is accepted and enforced

 

 

11 hours ago, Chevdove said:

 

 

[15] And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed;

it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. GENESIS 3:15.

 

*His Head versus His Heel*

Explain....as I see thy head and his heel

 

11 hours ago, Chevdove said:

 

 

 

The Roman Empire 

 

 

 

"From The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire (1776)"
 

I guess this was the greatest government on this planet at one point in time. 

again explain?

[frankster]

10 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

 

We Know.....every scientific school of thought we have that has a bearing on this issue comes back supporting African and Africans being the source of all Human beings
 

That's simply not true.
They don't know....they merely theorize based on evidence they find.
The evidence that contradicts this....such as the evidence they find in MesoAmerica.....is simply ignored because it doesn't fit the "out of Africa" narrative they CURRENTLY promote.
 

The fact is, human beings today simply don't KNOW.
They can theorize and hypothesize but they don't KNOW because they weren't around to see it....those are the FACTS.

Present the evidence?

If memory serves....the earliest people of the americas are the so-called Clovis people then the found luzia - turns out she was African.

Though some now argue that she was Australopithecus

Even the Chinese spent millions of $$$$ to prove that they were not descendants of Africans.

 

10 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Racism Race and Races only has reality in a social setting where it is accepted as true and enforce it by law and practice
 

"only has reality" is still REALITY none the less.

Like telling a person, "You're only rich because your father left you the money".
Yeah...but they're still rich...lol.

Yes...

Not all realities enduring and exist independent of and stand on it own....some realities are dependent limited transient manmade constructions.

Racism today is not the same as racism of yesteryears

Socially realities only exist within societies....as soon as those social structures are no longer supported- they fade

Physically realities exist independent of society....within without before after and during.

 

10 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Same as how only in a game of monopoly do you get $200 for passing Go...because the players accept it as true and enforce it by rule and play.

 

But the game exists.

Yes

 

10 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

And you're forced to play it.

No

You have free will...

You can refuse to play...

or refuse to play by the rules of the game

 

10 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

That White police officer who is looking for suspects WILL acknowledge race and use race to communicate with and identity the suspects he's looking for regardless of how much YOU think he shouldn't.

True

I do not think he shouldn't....We live in a racist society and that is how people are described.

 

10 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Laws and rules acknowledge race and races whether or not we "think' they should be acknowledged or not.

I Accept race as a Social Construct....and I know I live in a racist society - As such I know the Laws and Rules that are applicable

[Pioneer1]

frankster

 

Present the evidence?

 

No, present the PROOF.

Evidence is anything that supports your assertion.
You can have evidence that supports it and then have evidence that contradicts it too.
PROOF settles the question or erases doubt.

Where is the PROOF?

 

 

 

If memory serves....the earliest people of the americas are the so-called Clovis people then the found luzia - turns out she was African.

Remembering something means you experienced or observed it in the past.

You must be pretty old to "remember" something you experienced or observed yourself, from hundreds if not THOUSANDS of years ago...lol.

Every generation some "new evidence" pops up claiming this or that history in the Americas.
It may or may not be true, I'm not sure.
Plenty of conjecture, theories, clay pots somebody dug up or painting on a wall in a cave somewhere.....

But my point is...it's all THEORY....not FACT.
Because..... again....no person today was around to witness it, so people shouldn't be so zealous about it.

100 years from now "new evidence" will pop up claiming the very opposite.

 

 

 

 

Even the Chinese spent millions of $$$$ to prove that they were not descendants of Africans.

 

And maybe they weren't.
Again, we don't KNOW that they were.
We have the San people of southern Africa with slant eyes and yellow skin.

 

 

 

Other than them, we don't have anybody else in Africa who remotely looks like Chinese people.

 

 

 

Yes...

Not all realities enduring and exist independent of and stand on it own....some realities are dependent limited transient manmade constructions.

Reality is Reality.
If it's in Existence....it's Reality.
Doesn't matter WHERE in Reality it is....if it Exists....it's Reality.

 

 

 

Racism today is not the same as racism of yesteryears

 

True.
Like any religion it modifies and transforms itself based on time, culture, and geography to fit it's contemporary needs.
 

 

 

Socially realities only exist within societies....as soon as those social structures are no longer supported- they fade
 

Social Realities EXIST -stop right there, lol.
No need to qualify it.

 

Physically realities exist independent of society....within without before after and during.
 

Physical Realities EXIST -stop right there, lol.
Anything else beyond that is food for argument.

 

 

 

No

You have free will...

You can refuse to play...

or refuse to play by the rules of the game

 

Do you consider having only 2 options: play the game or commit suicide......"free will"????
 

If you're living in a racist society and don't have the power to get out of it or destroy it, what else can you do besides participate/play in it or exit it through death?

Refusing to play the game often leads to INCARCERATION in which you're still playing/participating in the game even if unwillingly.
Getting punished or injured....you're still in the game.
Unless you're powerful enough to destroy it or get out from under it's authority, the only exit is DEATH.

 

[frankster]

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

 

Present the evidence?

 

No, present the PROOF.

Evidence is anything that supports your assertion.
You can have evidence that supports it and then have evidence that contradicts it too.
PROOF settles the question or erases doubt.

Where is the PROOF?

True..

I asked for evidence but if you have proof then present it..

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

If memory serves....the earliest people of the americas are the so-called Clovis people then the found luzia - turns out she was African.

Remembering something means you experienced or observed it in the past.

Yes....I experienced reading the information

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

You must be pretty old to "remember" something you experienced or observed yourself, from hundreds if not THOUSANDS of years ago...lol.

Genetic memory

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Every generation some "new evidence" pops up claiming this or that history in the Americas.
It may or may not be true, I'm not sure.
Plenty of conjecture, theories, clay pots somebody dug up or painting on a wall in a cave somewhere.....

But my point is...it's all THEORY....not FACT.
Because..... again....no person today was around to witness it, so people shouldn't be so zealous about it.

100 years from now "new evidence" will pop up claiming the very opposite.

That maybe true...

We are forced to accept the truth we know now and act from there......not the truth we may know in the future from which we cannot act

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Even the Chinese spent millions of $$$$ to prove that they were not descendants of Africans.

 

And maybe they weren't.
Again, we don't KNOW that they were.
We have the San people of southern Africa with slant eyes and yellow skin.

 

 

 

Other than them, we don't have anybody else in Africa who remotely looks like Chinese people.

They came to their own conclusion reluctantly....that they were descended from Africans.

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Yes...

Not all realities enduring and exist independent of and stand on it own....some realities are dependent limited transient manmade constructions.

Reality is Reality.
If it's in Existence....it's Reality.
Doesn't matter WHERE in Reality it is....if it Exists....it's Reality.

Yes and No

Reality is Realities

There are many Realities and many levels to each Reality

There is more to Reality than we both think or will ever knowYes

There is Your Reality and Shared Reality.....Shared Reality is agreed upon.

 

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Racism today is not the same as racism of yesteryears

 

True.
Like any religion it modifies and transforms itself based on time, culture, and geography to fit it's contemporary needs.

Not entirely true....its the same culture and geography

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Socially realities only exist within societies....as soon as those social structures are no longer supported- they fade
 

Social Realities EXIST -stop right there, lol.
No need to qualify it.

It does need to be qualified....for its existence is dependent on society and its institutions

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Physically realities exist independent of society....within without before after and during.
 

Physical Realities EXIST -stop right there, lol.
Anything else beyond that is food for argument.

There is a difference between physical reality and social reality....

Its not food for argument.....

Can you taste social reality? ......you can easily taste physical reality? - so there is a qualitative difference

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

No

You have free will...

You can refuse to play...

or refuse to play by the rules of the game

 

Do you consider having only 2 options: play the game or commit suicide......"free will"????

Yes

I see an infinite options

You could fight? flee? play the game but by your own rules? just not cooperate?....etc

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

If you're living in a racist society and don't have the power to get out of it or destroy it, what else can you do besides participate/play in it or exit it through death?

Ask the Haitians and the thousands of Maroons settlements that existed.....Palenques and Quilombos

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Refusing to play the game often leads to INCARCERATION in which you're still playing/participating in the game even if unwillingly.

Thousands escaped...

 

2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Getting punished or injured....you're still in the game.

You not in the game....they trying to get you to play

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Unless you're powerful enough to destroy it or get out from under it's authority, the only exit is DEATH.

Not true

Many have exited without using death

[Pioneer1]

frankster

 

True..

I asked for evidence but if you have proof then present it..

 

You asked for "evidence" for what?  For the fact that people are ignorant of what happened here thousands of years ago and don't know?
That's SELF evident....lol.

 

One KEY piece of evidence that somebody may actually be wrong is when they try to tell you about something that happened over 1000 years ago.
Anytime a human being tries to tell you about something that happened beyond a 1000 years ago that they haven't witnessed  COULD easily be wrong.
They may not be.
They may actually be right.
But they don't KNOW, that's my point.
 

 

Yes....I experienced reading the information

 

Lol....
Yeah well, EXPERIENCING watching porn isn't the same as actually EXPERIENCING sex....lol.

 

 

 

 

 

Genetic memory

 

How detailed is it?

 

 

 

 

That maybe true...

We are forced to accept the truth we know now and act from there......not the truth we may know in the future from which we cannot act

 

True.
We just need to make sure that what we THINK is true is ACTUALLY true, especially before acting on it.

Just because a White man in a lab coat and glasses CLAIMS that it's true and wrote it in a book, doesn't make it so.

Black people will serve well to stop arguing with EACHOTHER over information we got from White folks.
....and start getting it directly, ourselves.

 

 

 

 

 

They came to their own conclusion reluctantly....that they were descended from Africans.

 

How?
Do THEY have a time machine over in China to verify this?
Do Chinese themselves accept the Theory of Evolution or the Out of Africa Theory?

 

 

 

 

There are many Realities and many levels to each Reality

There is more to Reality than we both think or will ever know

 

Facts.

 

 

 

 

There is Your Reality and Shared Reality.....Shared Reality is agreed upon.

 

Agreed.

However I would tweak it a little by saying that Shared Reality is more PARTICIPATED IN than agreed upon.
People are in it together whether some "agree" with it or not...lol.

 

 

 

Not entirely true....its the same culture and geography

 

Not for Racism.
Racism spans the globe AND spans cultures.

There is racism among the Indians of India.
There is racism among the Spaniards of Spain.
There is racism among the Arabs of Libya.

 

 

 

 

 

It does need to be qualified....for its existence is dependent on society and its institutions

 

Once something Exists, it ALWAYS Exists....even if only in the past.

 

 

There is a difference between physical reality and social reality....

 

But it's still Reality.

Race is Reality.....regardless of which CATEGORY of Reality you want to drop it in.

 

 

 

 

You could fight?

 

Still in the game.
Sometimes winning....sometimes losing...but still playing.

 

 

 

 flee?

 

Still playing the game.
Just playing hide-n-go-seek....lol.

 

"Peek a boo....I still see you
...nigger"

 

 

 play the game but by your own rules? 

 

You can try.



just not cooperate?

Still in the game.
You'll just be penalized.

 

 

"Stop resisting!

Comply or die!"


Being OUT of the game means you're no longer subject to the RULES of the game.
If you're still subject to the RULES of the game (restricted actions and being punished) then you're definitely still IN the game.
You're just a bad or uncooperative player.

 

 

Ask the Haitians and the thousands of Maroons settlements that existed.....Palenques and Quilombos
 

True.
The Haitians of the past escaped the game.
The Haitians of today are participants.
Evidence of it is how they're constantly being dealt a bad hand by the dealer.

 

 

 

 

You not in the game....they trying to get you to play

 

You can be in the game without playing....just riding the bench, lol.

[frankster]

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

frankster

 

True..

I asked for evidence but if you have proof then present it..

 

You asked for "evidence" for what?  For the fact that people are ignorant of what happened here thousands of years ago and don't know?
That's SELF evident....lol.

Evidence is an indication of what happened or is happening.....from which inferences can be made

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

One KEY piece of evidence that somebody may actually be wrong is when they try to tell you about something that happened over 1000 years ago.

Not if they have evidence...

One can not be every where and every when....

If you see prints in Sand or dirt...one can tell much of what transpired and often how long ago and what made it

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Anytime a human being tries to tell you about something that happened beyond a 1000 years ago that they haven't witnessed  COULD easily be wrong.
They may not be.
They may actually be right.
But they don't KNOW, that's my point.
 

That depends on how much evidence is left and the state of your technology and knowledge.

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

 

Yes....I experienced reading the information

 

Lol....
Yeah well, EXPERIENCING watching porn isn't the same as actually EXPERIENCING sex....lol.

 

It is not the same...that is true.

As no two experiences are the same...even in sex

but for some it is enough or even better....in any case inferences can be deduced.

 

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Genetic memory

 

How detailed is it?

Again it depends on your expertise and available technology

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

That maybe true...

We are forced to accept the truth we know now and act from there......not the truth we may know in the future from which we cannot act

 

True.
We just need to make sure that what we THINK is true is ACTUALLY true, especially before acting on it.

No

You can only be sure of what you now know....not what you may know in the future

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Just because a White man in a lab coat and glasses CLAIMS that it's true and wrote it in a book, doesn't make it so.

True

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Black people will serve well to stop arguing with EACHOTHER over information we got from White folks.
....and start getting it directly, ourselves.

Truth is truth no matter who or where it comes from

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

 

They came to their own conclusion reluctantly....that they were descended from Africans.

 

How?

Thru Genetic science

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Do THEY have a time machine over in China to verify this?

I do not know if they do or not....

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Do Chinese themselves accept the Theory of Evolution or the Out of Africa Theory?

Yes

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

There are many Realities and many levels to each Reality

There is more to Reality than we both think or will ever know

 

Facts.

cool

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

There is Your Reality and Shared Reality.....Shared Reality is agreed upon.

 

Agreed.

However I would tweak it a little by saying that Shared Reality is more PARTICIPATED IN than agreed upon.
People are in it together whether some "agree" with it or not...lol.

We splitting hairs here...

One must first agree....then participate

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Not entirely true....its the same culture and geography

 

Not for Racism.
Racism spans the globe AND spans cultures.

There is racism among the Indians of India.
There is racism among the Spaniards of Spain.
There is racism among the Arabs of Libya.

Yes....we still live in a North American culture..

and there is no racism in most of so called subsaharan Africa like unto Europe.

 

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

It does need to be qualified....for its existence is dependent on society and its institutions

 

Once something Exists, it ALWAYS Exists....even if only in the past.

It is limited to Time and Place.....Change a Universal Constant

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

There is a difference between physical reality and social reality....

 

But it's still Reality.

Race is Reality.....regardless of which CATEGORY of Reality you want to drop it in.

Race is not a biological or genetic reality.

Race is a social reality

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

You could fight?

 

Still in the game.
Sometimes winning....sometimes losing...but still playing.

When you fight....you not in the game - you are in resistance.

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

flee?

 

Still playing the game.
Just playing hide-n-go-seek....lol.

 

"Peek a boo....I still see you
...nigger"

As long as you are in the state of fleeing....then you are not in the game - 

 

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

play the game but by your own rules? 

 

You can try.

Many have successfully done so....

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

ust not cooperate?

Still in the game.
You'll just be penalized.

 

 

"Stop resisting!

Comply or die!"

 

Non violent resistance....does change the game

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

 

Being OUT of the game means you're no longer subject to the RULES of the game.
If you're still subject to the RULES of the game (restricted actions and being punished) then you're definitely still IN the game.
You're just a bad or uncooperative player.

Good.....you did not submit to the rules of the game - you are now a threat to the game

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Ask the Haitians and the thousands of Maroons settlements that existed.....Palenques and Quilombos
 

True.
The Haitians of the past escaped the game.
The Haitians of today are participants.
Evidence of it is how they're constantly being dealt a bad hand by the dealer.

They are a threat, in resistance and remain independent.....they remain an inspiration.

 

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

You not in the game....they trying to get you to play

 

You can be in the game without playing....just riding the bench, lol.

They want to be in the game....prep trained selected willing able and ready.

[Chevdove]

 

 

On 2/7/2026 at 6:35 PM, frankster said:

Neanderthal  are I think the are descendants of Homo Erectus....Homo Erectus is out of Africa....

 

Neanderthals are a distinct species from Africans and do not have nappy hair. Homo Erectus do NOT have nappy hair; they are Primitive and roamed the earth.

 

 

On 2/7/2026 at 6:35 PM, frankster said:

Human beings that share the same contemporaneous time period will and do intermix.

 

Yes. I agree. 

 

 

 

On 2/7/2026 at 6:35 PM, frankster said:

Tell me why the Serpent is a human?

 

The 'Serpent' or 'Dragon' as some of the prophets referred to him, was present in 'the Original Sin' and His seed obviously was fertilized. No humans to date gave birth with any other animal but another human. So obviously, Eve gave birth to a seed; Satan's seed. Therefore, he had to have been 'a human'. 

 

 

On 2/7/2026 at 6:35 PM, frankster said:

The whole ideology of Races was invent and propagated by racist and racism..

So far all arguments to support its existence or reality scientifically biological or genetically has been disproven

I do not question its Authenticity as a Social Convention or Construct.....As it effects are very real in societies were it is accepted and enforced

 

Agreed!

 

On 2/7/2026 at 6:35 PM, frankster said:

Explain....as I see thy head and his heel

 

Most Bible scholars define 'thy head' as the Roman empire leaders; Emperors and their seat of power. 

Most Bible scholars define 'his heel' as meaning that the government of Jesus' adversaries will only be able to persecute him and his followers. 

My own studies lead me to recognize the geographical phenomenon of the shape of Italy and find it shocking too, to know a little about how the prophets like Daniel wrote about 'the south' and some wrote about how 'the bay and grisled horses' would go to the south as well as to and fro throughout the earth. I find it extremely interesting how history shows how the south world was subdued by the Romans and even Southern Italy, historically was known to have ethnic soldiers used specifically in their military ranks to fight against the people in Jerusalem, etc. 

So, the Great Adversary would persecute the believers of Jesus, however, Jesus would completely BRUISE or effectively crush his HEAD, meaning his government headquarters one day to the effect too, that it will never be able to form again in this world; so says the prophet Daniel. 

 

 

[frankster]

5 hours ago, Chevdove said:

Neanderthals are a distinct species from Africans and do not have nappy hair. Homo Erectus do NOT have nappy hair; they are Primitive and roamed the earth.

Homo Erectus is African being that Its Origin is on the Continent....

Homo Erectus is the Immediate Ancestor of Neanderthal.....

Are You saying that Africans Only have Nappy hair?

It is the same gene that is responsible for straight or wavy or nappy hair

 

5 hours ago, Chevdove said:

Yes. I agree. 

cool

 

5 hours ago, Chevdove said:

The 'Serpent' or 'Dragon' as some of the prophets referred to him, was present in 'the Original Sin' and His seed obviously was fertilized. No humans to date gave birth with any other animal but another human. So obviously, Eve gave birth to a seed; Satan's seed. Therefore, he had to have been 'a human'. 

Does this Offspring of Eve and the Serpent have a Name?

 

5 hours ago, Chevdove said:

Agreed!

cool

 

5 hours ago, Chevdove said:

Most Bible scholars define 'thy head' as the Roman empire leaders; Emperors and their seat of power. 

Most Bible scholars define 'his heel' as meaning that the government of Jesus' adversaries will only be able to persecute him and his followers. 

My own studies lead me to recognize the geographical phenomenon of the shape of Italy and find it shocking too, to know a little about how the prophets like Daniel wrote about 'the south' and some wrote about how 'the bay and grisled horses' would go to the south as well as to and fro throughout the earth. I find it extremely interesting how history shows how the south world was subdued by the Romans and even Southern Italy, historically was known to have ethnic soldiers used specifically in their military ranks to fight against the people in Jerusalem, etc. 

So, the Great Adversary would persecute the believers of Jesus, however, Jesus would completely BRUISE or effectively crush his HEAD, meaning his government headquarters one day to the effect too, that it will never be able to form again in this world; so says the prophet Daniel. 

THis reads like some form of Dispensationalism....I do not think it is wrong or bad just it seems to me it has no rules direction or clear lines of demarcation.

It can be too easily used prejudicially  to support  any or anyones personal agenda or political opinions.....like reading tea leaves or Scrying.

While I think the bible is about Eternal Spiritual Truths....Not about Geo-politics but about you the individual

[Chevdove]

5 hours ago, frankster said:

Homo Erectus is African being that Its Origin is on the Continent....

 

But the Homo Erectus existed long before Africa became a distinct continent.

The word 'Africa' only defines one part of this planet, however, the earth did not split when these primitive species existed.

 

5 hours ago, frankster said:

Does this Offspring of Eve and the Serpent have a Name?

 

The Bible initially refers to this offspring simply as 'Satan's seed'.

However, after Satan's seed was fertilized, and born, science and genetics proves that it could not have been a male; anatomically straight male.

it would have either been a female or hybrid.

 

5 hours ago, frankster said:

THis reads like some form of Dispensationalism....I do not think it is wrong or bad just it seems to me it has no rules direction or clear lines of demarcation.

It can be too easily used prejudicially  to support  any or anyones personal agenda or political opinions.....like reading tea leaves or Scrying.

 

I agree. It is just my understanding on it. 

5 hours ago, frankster said:

While I think the bible is about Eternal Spiritual Truths....Not about Geo-politics but about you the individual

 

The Bible definitely addresses governments though.

It addresses ancient Egypt, the Assyrian empire, the Greek empire, the Roman empire, etc.

It addresses kingdoms and nations, etc.