Mel
Hmm, you're describing children not men. I can see a mom supporting her son and giving him a pat on the head when he does well in school. Men, however, support women not the other way around.
Children GROW UP to be good well balanced men from the SUPPORT they get from the women in their lives.
And they REMAIN good and well balanced men from the SUPPORT they get continue to get from the women in their lives.
As far as men needing to support women, that is true also....we should support eachother.
Both sexes were made to COMPLIMENT eachother, not stand alone INDEPENDENT of eachother.....but their must be a balance and GIVE AND TAKE.
Not some woman saying, "Well if you first stand up and be a man by yourself THEN when you're successful I'll come running to join you so you can support me."......lol.
For the adult men I know and in my life personal goals and achievement are their driving force. But then again, the men I know sit on boards of corporations - they head corporations, they run their own million dollar businesses. Sex isn't something that motivates them nor does "cheerleading" which is probably why they are never in short supply of either...
I live in a black community -a manicured lawns, tree-lined street pool and tennis court community ... There are more phds and professionals per capita than the economy can support but it does. And not one man has asked or expected me or any woman here for support -they ask how they can support us, me, and my family included. When I lived in a majority white neighborhood - no man asked for support, they asked how they could support me, my family and they were married but their wives expected nothing less from them. Half the time, I didn't even have to shovel snow ...I walked out of my house and the fathers and sons were shoveling for us - because that's how fathers teach their sons. They support women.
Oh....
Well that EXPLAINS why you keep asking so many questions about supporting men and can't quite figure this out.
YOU'RE OUT OF TOUCH WITH NORMAL SOCIETY.....lol.
If most of the men you're around are CEOs and board members you're not dealing with AVERAGE men.
These men are overachievers who tend to be gifted with an extraordinary amount of intelligence, energy, and motivation.
While their qualities may be admirable....they aren't normal so we can't make rules or generalize what men need based on THEM.
They are AB-normal.
We need to make rules and understand society based on NORMAL AVERAGE men and women and their needs. Cynique
I hope that Mel's anecdotal's examples will impress on you the reality that the anecdotes that shape your view of the world are simply one facet of the black experience and that your ongoing effort to make the black community over in your image is short sighted. Blackness has become a mosaic not a monolith and in the final analysis, cream rises to the top.
Mel lives in the Atlanta area which is probably the largest concentration of Black professionals anywhere in this nation
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D.C. is a distant second place.
So we can't take her experience and observations concerning how successful Black pepole are or how Black men behave THERE as an example of what's going on all over the nation.
Hell, Atlanta also has the largest concentration of GAY Black men of anywhere in the nation....which perhaps explains why so many men there can be successful without the support of women....lol.
Seems to be me a black man would relish the idea of making it on his own because he was strong enough in character and fortitude to do this. A secure, capable man doesn't need to yearn for supportive women; he will automatically attract them.
Most men relish the idea of making it on their own, but it's in a man's nature to seek approval of the women in society.
If he doesn't feel that the women in that society respects him a lot of times he won't be motivated to "make it" on his own because he wouldn't see any benefit in it.
You can see that among large segments of Black male youth today who have essentially GIVEN UP on society and refused to go to school, work, or better themselves because of the LACK of proper motivation by the women in their lives be it their mothers or girl friends or sisters.
You've heard the old saying.....
BEHIND EVERY SUCCESSFUL MAN STANDS A GOOD WOMAN.
They didnt' come up with that phrase for nothing, there's some truth to it.