Pioneer1

Besides fear and love, another reason it's so hard to kick the foreigners out of African nations is because AFRICANS THEMSELVES are in nearly every nation for one reason or another. French citizens are in Niger sucking out the natural resources, but guess what? Niger citizens are in France working jobs and going to school. This plays on the "sense of justice" a lot of Africans feel in that since they want to go to Europe to partake of certain benefits, they feel it's only "right" that they allow Europeans to come to Africa and exploit the land in exchange. Interesting that we're talking about this topic because I was watching 2 movies over the weekend related to this: Blood Diamond and Lord of War

Yeah, Dru Hill tried to copy them in terms of style. I love Dru Hill although they bit hard off of Jodeci, but they did such a good job I had to love them anyway....lol. ProfD You said Jodeci was your favorite of the 90s. I'm curious, who was your favorite of the 80s and dare I ask.....2000s (if any....lol)?????

Actually, different methods work on different people. With me personally, arguing with me and presenting INDISPUTABLE facts in an "in your face" way DOES WORK in changing my mind. Being nice, using "reverse psychology" and trying to play tricks or use honey....a lot of that didn't work with me. Not sure if it's because I could see through it or I just didn't take to it. But if I came at you with an argument and instead of saying "Yeah, whatever" and turning your back or ignoring me; you clapped back with some powerful facts that shut me up -that often changed my religion! That's what made me put the Bible away. ....a brutha hitting me hard with the facts on it. I'm built differently than a lot of people in the sense that I have thick skin and know how to monitor and control my emotions and focus on the content instead of the package. I'm like this by nature, I didn't have to train myself to be this way. I remember when I was 17 working as a dishwasher in a restaurant...... As different Black folks with our different preferences....we'd all have the White folks WE got along with and those WE didn't get along with...lol. I remember getting along much better with the more conservative acting straight-laced White folks who listened to "their" music, dressed like a typical White person, and leaned more towards the conservative Republican "traditional values" politics. Although I liked the Black girls better, I even liked the White girls who dressed and acted like they were "supposed to" instead of the ones who tried to act like Black girls! But most other Black folks my age and older liked the "cool white dudes" who were into rap, smoked weed, and mocked Black culture claiming to be down. Even as a teenager I didn't trust them....something about how they acted that I didn't like. But if you acted more like your nature, I trusted you and liked you a bit more. Later on I come to find out many of the "cool" White dudes would act as connections for the Black folks at the job who were into the street life but would turn around and snitch on them and get them in trouble. Meanwhile my "friendship" with the tight-ass conservative acting White folks ended when we'd leave work and we wouldn't have anything to do with eachother outside of work but got along well. I like REAL. Even if your realness is less appealing and attractive.....be REAL with me.

He said something else that was powerful He said when a man and woman come (cum?) together, 1 + 1 doesn't just equal 2 but 3 (the child that is produced). Defying the laws of mathematics.

This is what the Nation of Islam means that we are "righteous by nature". Under natural circumstances we are INCLINED towards righteous and civilized behavior. But we still have the POTENTIAL for savagery (human beings acting animalistic). It should be kept in mind that because we are atleast 3 times more powerful than them, Black folks have ALL of the potential White folks have.....and much more. That includes all of their potential for evil and wickedness. But we have much much more Creativity and Goodness and Strength to CHECK that evilness and wickedness and they don't. Not sure why you thought I didn't realize so many of our people feared White folks. We've been seeing evidence of this since childhood, not just in Africa but here in the United States. Go into the roughest and toughest hood where brothers are built like MOUNTAINS and are so hard core they can take a street sign or stop sign and bend it up like a pretzel. Take a bite of out a tree truck like you're bitting an apple....lol CRRRROOOUNNCH!!! About 25 of them piled up on the side walk set tripping and mean-mugging every car that drives by them HOPING for a fight! But let some half naked 85 pound White woman come jogging by with some shorts on so small you can see all her butt-cheeks flapping while she's bouncing by....along with her dog- "Excuse me guuuuuys!" Man, ALL of them niccaz will scatter and clear the sidewalk for her like it was Wagner rolling through with heavy artillery. "Break wide niggaz!!!!!" Niccas start tripping over eachother and pushing eachother out of the way.....afraid to even LOOK at her OR her flapping booty....scared somebody might see them looking and call the cops on 'em. Others don't know WHAT the hell their afraid of.....but they're still scared! ....crazy and confused as hell. Troy I've heard this argument recently. That the coups taking place are actually the removal of SELL-OUTS that have been installed from the outside. Only time will really allow us to tell how true this is. Every leader of a coup claims to be "the real" and legitimate leader and claims to have the popular support of "The people" behind them. No one.....to my knowledge atleast....has every admitted that they don't care about justice and helping the masses but only wanted power so that THEY'D be the ones in control of all the resources, enjoy all the money and women, and be the ones closest to the White Western powers instead of the previous rulers. Even when it became crystal clear that that's what they were doing....they never admitted to it. Going by what people SAY....all of them are the "legitimate leaders" including the French, lol.

Thanks for acknowledging this fact! As I told richardmurray, debating is what I love to do. I do it for fun.....which is constructive for ME because it's recreational, lol. I think either richardmurray or Delano asked in the other thread what benefit is there in imposing your beliefs on others.... I would say a NUMBER of benefits. 1. IF your goal is to control or influence another person as in Politics, imposing your beliefs helps. 2. If your goal is to get another person to buy and spend their money in a particular product as in Marketing -then imposing your beliefs....or atleast that which you CLAIM to believe...helps. 3. If...like me...you enjoy debating and sharpening your debating and persuasion skills....successfully convincing others to see things your way is a Success for you. Now if this devolves into name calling, threats, and animosity, then it becomes DE-structive or NON-constructive. Unless....that was your purpose in the first place in "trolling" for example or general destabilization....then I guess it would still be considered "successful".

2 powerful reasons: Fear and Love 1. They fear the power that White folks have over them and see them as "almost" invincible. Often times the only time a Black person will challenge White power is when they are so desparate and have nothing else to lose and don't even give a fuck if they live or die....THEN they'll go all out and use everything within their means to challenge White authority. ....and usually will WIN. Look at Haiti and Somalia as examples. Problem is, it happens so few and far in between that not enough wins have been racked up to overturn the White Racist System. Even worse, after wining and driving them out of the nation the NEXT generation of niccas will get lazy and invite the White folks back in for some trinkets and jobs. 2. You gotta be honest, a HUGE percentage of Black folks (especially in Africa) love White folks too much to fight them. They see them as angels. Think Florida Evans and White Jesus..... "Boy you hush yo mouth! Don't you talk like that infront of Jesus!!!" They see them as being "better" morally, looking better, certainly nicer, more refined, and more educated. They seek them for education and better standards of living.....so their own logic wouldn't allow them to destroy that which they love and seek benefits from. How can you and why would you fight him whom you believe to be "Jesus"????

It took me years to understand that Caucasians were referred to as "devils" not primarily because of their behavior and wickedness but because of their genetic weakness. Most people assume "devil" means a person is very evil and wicked and THAT'S how they get the title. No....it's because they are genetic DEVIANTS who also are inclined to do evil. I say that to say that Black folks have a GREATER potential to do evil and wickedness than even the Caucasians, because we have more creative power although by nature we are inclined to do good under normal circumstances. You see and hear about Black wickedness not only in the ghettoes of America but through out parts of Africa too, and we can't say it's all White folks forcing them to do this. So the argument that Black folks aren't evil enough or ruthless enough to seize power.....not sure about that one, lol. Look at the number of coups that have been going on in Africa since the so-called "end" of colonialism! As soon as a bunch of niccas get enough guns and ammo they start seizing power. Who cares about a damn election. No time to wait a generation or two. Yes Europe does the same thing with it's revolutions in different nations but atleast they usually wait a century or two before overturning a royal family or government and establishing a new one. Some of these brothers in Africa....EVERY generation has to play "top of the hill"" tossing out the old guard and installing a new one. No stability. Many of our people don't mind being evil and ruthless with eachother. They just start hesitating when it comes to White folks for various reasons. There may be many reasons why Black people in Africa don't have too much wealth or power, but the unwillingness to kill, rape, and rob doesn't seem to be one of them. Sorry, but I can't buy that one. I would say lack of UNITY (every man for himself mentality) and lack of DISCIPLINE are some of the major culprits of why African nations (and many of us here in the U.S.) have a hard time building wealth.

No. The sources could come from CNN or the Wall Street Journal, but if a person doesn't WANT to believe that HIV was a man-made virus designed to thin the population of Black folks, they won't believe it anyway. They'll just start re-interpreting the information or dismissing it all together. Just like the Crack Cocaine conspiracy. When it got to the point where they just COULDN'T deny that cocaine was deliberately being brought into the Black communities of America to destabilize it.....they had to come up with some flimsy excuse to "justify" it so they said the CIA did it to raise money to fund the Contras in Nicaragua. The government has PLENTY of money. They don't need to fund their operations by opening lemonade stands and car-washes just to "raise money". That's one of the silliest excuses they could come up with.

"Apparently" is the key word. He APPEARED to have committed suicide.

After discussing the dangers of AI on here yesterday, I happened to listen to an interesting exchange on the need for our people to "ride the Artificial Intelligence wave", between Brother Rich and 19 Keys last night. It only lasts a few minutes out of the entire interview and can be found starting at the 2 hour and 24 minute mark: I must admit, when he said "You have to be aware of everything in order to control everything"....that was powerful. Whether we invented it or agree with it, we should atleast know about it and understand it as completely as possible in order to ascertain whatever benefits we can and use it to OUR benefit.

Delano I COULD be considered selfish and self centered if you're steadily trying to RECEIVE (learn) rather than GIVE (teach) the gift of knowledge and beneficial information.

Troy I see you're hip to Gary Webb and his book. Gary was assassinated by the way. Also, another source that exposed the Crack plot was the San Jose Mercury News. I could give you sources for HIV being man-made but I doubt they'd change your mind, lol.

Exactly.... I though it was a given that the very PURPOSE of most communication was to influence others and change their way of thinking....about a particular issue atleast. If you go to a job interview and sit up there for an hour and the prospective employer thinks the same way when you leave as they did when you walked in, what are the chances of you getting that position?

Dee Miller That's the purpose of it. To take away free and independent thinking from the individuals and turn them into zombies/robots who are easily controlled. Then they turn around and invent MONTESORI schools for rich children and future leaders to teach them how TO independently think and be leaders of the sheepish masses.

ProfD Black people have actually had the opportunity not to just get rich but actually accumulate WEALTH. I've seen it in Detroit and I'm sure you've seen it in D.C. I'm talking Black folks not only with a nice bank account, but who were also lawyers, judges, prosecutors, mayors, police and fire chiefs.....I mean top to bottom within a particular jurisdiction. Is it AS MUCH wealth and power as White America? No But it did exist and still does to a certain extent. I can't speak for D.C., Chicago, and other cities but I know a lot of Black wealth was lost in Detroit due to the Crack epidemic as well as lazy children born in the 60s through the 80s who lost a lot of the wealth and power their parents accumulated through indifference, drug addiction, and general reprobate behavior.

Don't sell us too short..... Magic Johnson, Oprah, Byron Allen, and Lebron James BY THEMSELVES could probably buy up all of Latin America (Central and South America together) if they were silly enough to sell it. One of the biggest problems with Black wealth is that not a lot of people want to RESPECT it. In other words, even when we HAVE money....it often doesn't work for our people like it works for White folks because of the lack of POWER behind it. For example........ A rich White American is stopped by the police in Mexico and offers them a bribe, they accept it and shake the man's hand and let him go. A rich Black American is stopped by the police and ends up kidnapped and held for ransom, OR scolded and lectured over how he thinks he's better than the Mexican people just because he's from America and has money. Same thing right here in America. Rich White men have their way in the legal system, with women, with real estate, etc. Rich Black men must be "taught a lesson" to keep him from getting too uppity. Now the question is why? Why isn't the Black man with the SAME amount of money as a White man treated the same? Because he doesn't weld the same POWER behind the wealth....which comes from unity. Now....... With all I just said.... Imagine if the rich Black man not only had his money but BLACK FRIENDS/CONNECTIONS who are Judges, Prosecutors, media execs and they were all united and connected and on code with eachother. Imagine if that rich Black man was stopped by the police, he tried to bribe them....they refused and took him to jail on bribery charges...and the Black prosecutor not only released him but got the White cops who arrested him FIRED as a message to the other White cops on that force not to fuck with Black wealth? Imagine if the US GOVERNMENT actually did what it was supposed to do and backs up the Black billionaires who went abroad seeking to buy up land! Imagine if the Black folks IN the U.S. Government forced that to happen. It COULD happen.....

ProfD Thankfully, I won't be around to see a world being run by computers and robots. You're not out of the woods yet....lol. Even if you don't live long enough to see the world controlled by them, if the LAST thing you see in your final days is your I-Robot nurse rolling into your room to take care of you..... "Hello Professor! I've been given orders to vaccinate you against the latest Covid strain. Now, roll over please sir and show me that bussey." That may be traumatic enough to send you to an early grave, lol. If anything, all of this AI technology should be inspiring us to build OUR OWN computers and robots so we don't have to rely on the ones built by White folks. I was just reading something a couple hours ago about how the driverless cars were racist and discriminated against people with brown skin walking down the street. Straight running folks over! Damn. And people will just brush THAT off as a coincidence too as if those who programmed that little "error" into the system didn't know what they were doing. "Ooops....my bad"

But it's not WHITE FOLKS that are being replaced in the cities of America. They* are bussing in loads of Latinos (and a few other groups) most of whom are illegal and have NO BUSINESS here in the first place and OPENLY bringing them into Black communities across the nation and setting them up in hotels and houses......while letting Black CITIZENS wander around homeless and talking to themselves. Now I hear there are plans both in New York and Chicago to pass certain legislation to give them immediate permits to work. Haven't even gotten citizenship yet.....if they ever will....and now they are giving them permission to work and make money. This is all because of DIS-UNITY among AfroAmericans. They never would be able to do this if AfroAmericans were UNITED and thinking correctly as a free and independent people should. Not only would they NOT be coming into this nation by the millions trying to displace us, but the opposite -WE'D be going down into Latin America by the thousands opening up businesses and buying up land. But so many of our people are so selfish, it's hard to get many of them to even think along those lines to the point that we can act in unison. I'm sure some people will say it's a "Democrat" thing and that Black folks should stop voting Democrat if they don't like what's going on. I don't see this as a Democrat or Republican issue because BOTH parties have been complicit in bringing millions of non-Black immigrants into this nation both legally and illegally to TRY to replace the AfroAmerican population. The Democrats bring them in and the Republicans put them to work....so they're both working together. *And when I say "they" I mean the White racists who control much of this nation.

It's a form of Success....if that's your intended goal.

We are the ORIGINAL....the first. Can any copy compare to the original?

Some of it is just human nature. Humans are programmed to focus on their problems....so they can solve them. If you break a leg, your focus will be on that pain and how to heal that limb, not how big your booty is or how much you can bench press.

See this is what I mean when I questioned why I think so much differently than a lot of other people a few weeks (months?) ago... Why do I have to provide sources and "convince" you about HIV being man-made or Crack being brought into the ghetto to destabilize Black America? Why don't you already believe this? You know it didn't just "pop up" out of nowhere and started infecting and killing millions of people around the planet. It HAD to have a source. Given the history of White folks and racism in this society, why do you need "proof" that things that so negatively affect our community are actually acts of aggression by your racist enemy before you believe them? In my opinion it should be the opposite.... You should automatically ASSUME this to be the case first and have to be convinced otherwise. But you're not alone. Many if not most Black people probably do NOT believe HIV was man-made and follow the "official narrative" despite millions of Africans and Caribbeans having been infected and died since the 80s as a result. That's one of the key differences between Caucasians and most AfroAmericans. When something negatively affects THEIR community, they automatically assume it's outside aggression and then take immediate and affirmative action to stop it and prevent it. They don't sit around waiting on absolute proof before assuming such. We could learn a lesson or two from them.