Pioneer1

While having a discussion with Troy in another thread over an answer he got from an Artificial Intelligence search engine, I decided to enter in a few questions of my own like the origins of HIV and Crack cocaine in the U.S. Unless you are in complete denial, you pretty much almost KNOW that both HIV is man-made and that Crack cocaine was introduced to Black America to destabilize it. These are called "Conspiracy Theories" but so much evidence is out there proving them that it's almost ridiculous to deny it and play them off as "co-incidences" at this point. So I used several AI powered search engines to ask these questions just to see what they'd say and they said that HIV was not man-made and that there was no conspiracy to bring Crack into the ghettoes of America. The White folks who are operating this shit like the Wizard behind the curtain should know that it would be MORE credible if it would tell the truth about things we pretty much KNOW is a fact, lol. If I were behind the scenes programing the answers, I'd say "Yes, HIV is a man made bio-weapon". Acknowledging a few almost confirmed conspiracy theories would atleast make you look more credible and cause people to trust you more, lol. If all AI search engines are good for is parroting the same "official narrative" that the rest of society has been programmed to believe, what good are they? Right now there are some who believe AI are the gospel truth. But if they don't stop parroting the "official story" of everything and start telling the truth as some people know it, most folks will not trust the information.

I thought it was a "given" that the Crusades was largely racially as well as religiously and culturally based. I didn't think you needed a source to accept this because I thought you too also believed it. Also, I'm curious as to which one of the explanations YOU think is more plausible yourself....lol.

I'm not religious nor do I adhere to much of the Nation of Islam's beliefs, so I'm not proselytizing. However there are things that the Nation of Islam teach that I definitely support and believe. Truth is truth regardless as to where it comes from. Sometimes our people MUST be "preached" to because coming at them hard and direct is the only way you can reach them with what you have to offer. One of the reasons so many of our people in the U.S. are Jehovah's Witnesses instead of Catholics is because of the different approaches of the two faiths. JW's will knock on your door, come in your house, and sit down with you to preach their doctrine. Catholics, on the other hand.....you wouldn't even know if they existed unless you were born one. They have churches and cathedrals in the middle of Black neighborhoods with no Black folks in them and are as quiet as mice...lol They don't proselytize....they keep to themselves. It's polite -but ineffective. In a way I'm OPPOSITE of @Delano who puts out information and could care less whether you accept it or not. I WANT you to believe the information I'm offering you and will drill it into you if I have to....lol.....and love doing so.

To many people today, the response the AI gave may SOUND like it makes more sense and is more legitimate than the Yacub racial theory; however if you compare both narratives you can actually poke more holes in the common AI given narrative than Elijah Muhammad's explanation. For examples........... 1. Chat focuses on the 15th and 16th centuries as an explanation for White racism, while the Yacub theory says it's THOUSANDS of years old and started about 6 thousand years ago. On this particular point, which narrative is more credible? We know that the Crusades of the 10th, 11th, and 12th centuries (before the 1500s obviously) were largely based on race and culture as well as religion. We also know that the invasion of ancient India by the White Aryans from the north was obviously based largely on race also. Both events were well before the time period Chat AI gives for the beginnings of racism. 2. Chat focuses on EUROPEANS as a source of or beginning of White racism, as if they were the only ones practicing it. Yacub theory doesn't focus on Europeans but on the entire race called CAUCASIAN people....regardless as to where they are found. So which is more accurate? Again, the Arabs have been practicing racism against darker skinned people like Africans for centuries and the Aryans of India have also been practicing it. Neither group is European, but both harbor the same basic ideas of hatred for darker people and belief in their superiority as the European does, supporting the idea that it's not a European concept but more of a Caucasian concept based on the actual race rather than their geography.

Yep, thought about NPR as well. It comes as close to a REAL news radio station as we're getting right now. Very little spin....mostly facts. But you know what? What's keeping both PBS and NPR from passing the grade as TRUE news outlets, in my opinion? They'll report "facts" with little opinion and spin to a certain degree but they rarely EXPOSE all of the truth like the conspiracies and hidden agendas. Now we know that not all conspiracy theories are true and not all the "hidden agendas" people rumor about, have merit. However many do. Some conspiracies we almost KNOW are true. It's almost as if the powers behind them have pretty much admitted to them being true without just saying it outright. For example..... We KNOW drugs were brought into the AfroAmerican community to destabilize it. Why has neither PBS or NPR done an extensive investigative research on this? Same with AIDS and other conspiracies that can easily be proven if credible research is done to gather the facts. When it comes to Hitler and the Nazis.....they'll expose HIS conspiracies and plans to exterminate people and poison the water etc, but remain silent on what's happening in the U.S.

That was actually quite uplifting. Perhaps this mentality has sustained you through out your life even though you don't believe in an Afterlife or "heaven" beyond death to look forward to for comfort. Although I realize each generation indeed DOES have opportunity to make things better in this world, I don't have the confidence in this or the recent previous generations to actually do so. Most of the Black men in this society who are smart and industrious enough to put in work to make a better life -do it for White industry for their own individual benefit instead of for the collective good of the entire community. And it's hard to blame them. Why sacrifice individual benefit and comfort on a "gamble" that may not pay off?

I might end up being the first one you ban......lol.

That's another thing..... In most of these factories they set up "rates" for people to work at that are almost unreal. They could are less about safety or the age of the worker. People in their 60s are expected to compete with 20 year old in today's society. No respect for age. As human beings, not only do you have good and bad days but sometimes you have things going on in your life that what's happening at your job is way down on the list of what's important at the time. If you have a child who is seriously ill and in the hospital on life support.....you're not focusing on delivering some damn boxes. But that's not taken into consideration on most jobs. You're supposed to IGNORE that and pretend it isn't an issue and focus strictly on doing your job, which most normal humans can't.

Fox New is a joke, but what a lot of people don't know is CNBC is a true "Conservative" channel. MSNBC isn't really liberal it's more "agenda" oriented and there's a difference. I don't think this nation knows what a TRULY "liberal" media actually looks like. PBS....atleast the PBS back in the 70s and 80s is as close as it came to a truly Liberal television network. I remember they would air unedited videos of actual news footage and documentaries.....truly educating the people. Now even PBS is censored.

Sometimes I wish the "world" would have ended back in 2000 as so many predicted. Our community wouldn't be going through so much confusion now. Infact, maybe if we had had a full revolution back in the 1960s....the AfroAmerican community wouldn't have suffered as much as it has over the past 50 years or so. No Crack. No AIDS. No Mass Incarceration No High Broken Family Rate Most of this started back in the late 70s and early 80s after the rebellions of the 60s. What if..... What if a full revolution caught fire and just swept the entire nation back after King's Assassination? Either they would have mowed everyone down or the people would have won and reversed the downward spiral we see today.

White racism began on the island of Patmos/Pelan when Yacub and his followers embarked on a program of "grafting" to take the recessive gene and produce an actual recessive PEOPLE. Recessive = weak Weak skin, weak hair, weak blood, weak eyes, weak emotions, weak nerves, weak bones, etc..... Ironically, these people were taught that because of their characteristics they were superior and shouldn't mix with other people of color or "dilute" their blood with them but instead must dominate and control them and keep their blood or genetics pure. Religion was/is used to brainwashed most of them but the elites know the truth.

Now all types of videos are popping up all over the internet of that man still being alive. 'For those discussing whether I'm alive': Newly emerged Wagner boss video goes viral (msn.com) For those who believe they are fakes...... Why haven't we seen "fake ones" like that after the death of Kobe or Tupac or McCain or other famous people? I TOLD yall that man is still alive. Putin isn't stupid and he's not either.....they're playing some sort of game. And the fact that he keeps saying he's in "Africa"....tells me it's a game I probably wouldn't like. ProfD Man, I watch Fox News with the sound off.....lol.

Oh, so THIS is the idea behind that new forum!

This is why I CAUTION AfroAmericans against TRYING to make alliances with and expect loyalty from people of other races, especially poor White people. Just because they are in the same situation.....doesn't mean they are in the same state of mind. I've often gotten into arguments with poor White folks on jobs because they insisted on "working hard" on a manual labor job while I insisted that as long as they are paying low wages, we should produce minimum effort. Most of the Blacks and Latinos agreed with me, but most of the Whites just thought it was wrong to "cheat" the employers by not killing yourself for them with your sweat and blood.

Allow me to be the second person to enter your brand new forum! Thank you.

I have a question for you.... If angry Black women are a problem.....WHAT SHOULD BE DONE about it? In other words, what is the SOLUTION to what you consider the problem? Seems like you've studied the problem long enough, I'm sure a few "solutions" have popped into your mind on how to solve this. Share some of them with us.

nels What kind of statement is that? It wasn't a statement, it was a question. A question that Jeromex's previous statements begged from me. If Black men make such poor fathers and poor men period....according to him....then how logical would it be for us to even HAVE children? Why should such shitty no-good fathers bring more children into the world who would eventually just take on THEIR characteristics and keep the cycle going? If what he's saying is true...... How about it @Jeromex ? If most Black men are as you say deadbeats and abandon their children and can't be relied on to raise children, should they just be BANNED from having children all together? Are you suggesting that Black men be sterilized? What ARE you suggesting should be done about these "worthless" men? Troy No LOL! This is patently false. It makes no sense on any level. Ofcourse it is. But it's the position of most archeologists and other scientists today. You trust "science" don't you?

richardmurray My question Pioneer is to you. Am I wrong ? Am I missing a reason? If I am missing a reason please say so. If I am not missing a reason then the issue in my mind is what has to change in black elders communication to new generations to delete as much as possible the thinking you state from happening. You were definately right about number 2: 2) Black humans in the usa were lied to concerning their history firstly from the older members of their bloodline or secondarily history books. This is one of the main problems. Incorrect and inaccurate information is steadily being passed down.

What city is this being held in????

You mean....more idiotic than the Conservative argument that we should arm teachers to prevent school shootings???

And apparently I'm not the only one who believes he's still alive and that his death is nothing but a ruse or big charade being pulled on people. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/wagner-prigozhin-death-putin-bitcoin-russia-b2401927.html ProfD In a legal settlement with Dominion, FOX admitted they're in the entertainment business. And that's EXACTLY what I watch them for too....lol....to be entertained. "But how can you NOT believe what I'm saying????"

Well, it depends...... Who are the "they" you are refering to? Because poor White folks don't give a damn about being poor, or even homeless....as long as they have more power than YOU. If a White man is poor.....as long as the Black man next to him is homeless....he's happy.

Man, cut the crap.....lol. You know DAMN WELL when Trump was in office there were just as many if not MORE illegal immigrants in this nation as was under previous administrations. He didn't do a damn thing to stop it. Hell, he probably ENCOURAGED them to come in like Biden is doing. Just like your boy Ronald Regan. Preaching America first but legalizing 20 MILLION illegal immigrants back in the 80s. ALL of them are complicit in bringing illegal NON-BLACK immigrants into the U.S. to undermine AfroAmerican political and economic power. Spreading them all over the U.S. by the bus loads in places like New York, Chicago, Atlanta....places where they can find a large Black population to gradually break up and replace. "Build a Wall"......kiss my ass......Trump was in office for 4 years and not one MILE of a damn wall was built. That old CREEP has thousands of illegal immigrants working for him in his hotels and resorts! Nothing but rhetoric, for people stupid enough to believe it. And NO.......I didn't vote for Jim Crow Joe.

Well, don't forget about Minister Farrakhan. He may not be as visible in the media as Al Sharpton (and that's by design) but most Black folks know who he is and have more respect for him than Al. ProfD I agree with you that we don't have a lot of Black leadership to codify the community today. As fond as I am of Neely Fuller Jr., I don't agree 100% with EVERYTHING he says. Most of the so-called leaders are spokespersons, but we do have some actual LEADERS......they just aren't large enough to mobilize the majority or collective of our people. Most of the leaders are on-line with the likes of Tariq Nasheed, Oshay Duke Jackson, etc.... Many of our leaders are actually celebrities/entertainers....like Lebron James. They aren't major major....but they do have enough influence to mobilize SOME Black folks and get them to take action (my definition of a true "leader"). But nobody on the scale of Marcus Garvey or Elijah Muhammad today.

Troy Actually a lot of racists DO make the distinction. I'm not sure how sincere they are in the distinctions they make, but they certainly make them. First of all, most White scientists consider ALL Indians....including the dark skinned ones....."Caucasian" or part of the White race. Secondly, many if not most White scientists even consider most EAST AFRICANS like Ethiopians, Eritreans, and Somalis part of the "Caucasian" or White race! Third, many racist White Americans DID NOT consider Africans....clearly Black Africans....the same as AfroAmericans and showed more respect to them. I've heard stories that when many Africans....again Black Africans...visited the Jim Crow South, the racist Whites would allow THEM to stay in White hotels and use White restrooms when they wouldn't let Black Americans do so! Who knows why racists do some of the things they do. You can only document it and try to learn a pattern from it.