Pioneer1

Excellent question! However you have to....like I had to...understand the MENTALITY of a lot of these women and the cultural background many of them come from. I used to ask a lot of African and Latina women the same thing, why they sit up and have babies with these men who barely take care of them in the midst of poverty and violence. Really, they could ask Black American and LATINA American women the same thing.....why do YALL keep sleeping with men who keep you broke and poor and abuse you and give you baby after baby? But some of the reasons for these women in other countries are......... 1. They have no choice. Growing up as girls and young women, the ONLY men they had access too were the men in their village or community so it was either Peter or Paul. The urge to have sex is powerful and if there are no other men in your community, you sleep with who you got or just do without. 2. The vast majority of women outside of the Western world DO NOT believe in birth control. Whether they are Muslim or Catholic....they believe that if they get pregnant, they are SUPPOSED to have that baby. If you ask them why some babies are miscarried or die at birth or early in their infancy, they'll rationalize that out as something else. So they don't believe in abortion and most of them don't believe in using condoms or have access to them. A nice thing I notice is that among most African women....they can have a lot of babies (7 or 9) and their bodies seem to bounce back VERY quick to it's previous shape with little or no stretch marks. And another thing.... Despite my joking around, so far I've only had sex with a handful of African women...I'm talking since being a teenager...and all of them have had multiple children. I can say that atleast THOSE women I've been with had coochies that were still much tighter than the American women I've been with who had only 2 or 3. I'm not going to say that their culture "balances" itself out...but I will say that despite their seemingly illogical behavior and choices...just like in America you have pros and cons to the men in your community.

frankster Which it is not....no slave catchers no slaves traders no slaves market and no victims of kidnap forced into slavery. Leviticus 25 46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you ...except for cases involving the spoils of war nearly all enslavement is voluntary meaning the enslave wanted and agreed to it without physical coercion. Joshua 9 22 And Joshua called for them, and he spake unto them, saying, Wherefore have ye beguiled us, saying, We are very far from you; when ye dwell among us? 23 Now therefore ye are cursed, and there shall none of you be freed from being bondmen Every 7 or 50 yrs Manumission Enfranchisement - Set free Leviticus 25 46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever Those who do not want to be passed down forever -HAVE NO CHOICE AND WILL BE ANYWAY BECAUSE Leviticus 25 46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever Even the very scriptures you BELIEVE IN, are bearing witness against you....lol.

Like Neely Fuller Jr. said... All over the world you have women of color on boats and rafts with babies in their arms, floating across great bodies of water trying to get away from "their men" and the foolish behavior of "their men"...with one thing on their minds: "Which way did the White people go?" "I KNOW it's some White folks somewhere around here. If we keep sailing...we'll run into them and THEY will feed us and maybe even take us back home, give us jobs, a place to stay, and some money. Where they at???"

Like I mentioned before, the White men of the North were LOSING the war on a regular basis until they started training and implementing Black troops. White folks were having draft riots and even switching sides until WE got in the fight and started whooping Rebel ass...lol.

I'm seeing a LOT of young bruthaz out on the road driving trucks now. Every time you look up, you see some skinny brutha (why are so many young Black men skinny again????) with dreadlocks with his head stuck out the window of a rig, trying to back it up to a dock, gas station, or liquor store....lol

ProdD Time isn't the enemy. Mental and/or physical pain usually leads one to making that decision. Often times it is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Facts. However my point was to show that just because a person is near death, doesn't necessarily mean they want more time. Perhaps as human beings we should be grateful that we were given the ABILITY to take our own lives. Animals can't make that conscious decision no matter how much suffering they're going through. They can kill themselves, but it's almost always an accident. Sure. Knowledge and proper application could lead to success providing that it doesn't waste too much...time. I'm of the belief that almost ANYTHING and almost EVERYTHING is possible. All you need is the proper KNOWLEDGE on how to make it happen. If you have the proper knowledge, you don't need the amount of time the next man may need. I often lament getting older. However there are certain things I can do now in 10 days, that when I was 20 or 30 would take me several MONTHS to do...if I could get it done at all. Well, I've know quite a few folks who've lived for a long time and don't have much in terms of money or accomplishment to show for it. Yet, they always seem to be the happiest folks on the planet. Grinning and smiling all the time. I know some too. Rick James said COCAINE is a hell of a drug, lol. It's usually old and bitter folks who say that after they've burned up a whole lot time doing dumb sh8t and don't have much to show for it. Oh no, not necessarily. Actually the couple people I heard that from were well to do retirees who were vacationing! That Baby Boomer Generation who enjoyed many of the early benefits of the Civil Rights Movement and Quotas and Affirmative Action when it was focused mainly on Black folks. Let's see if Elon Musk can increase his fortune 4-fold before times up. Elon can do what he wants to do, as long as he stays out of politics. I don't like how him and Trump keep hooking up devising shit together. Andrew Carnegie's net worth adjusted for inflation would be near $372 billion today. Only $153 billion more than Musk. Theb richest person to have ever lived is 14th century African emperor Mansa Musa who had a net worth the equivalent of $400 billion. Ahem..... Like I said, we didn't have any BILLIONAIRES 100 years ago, lol.

ProfD As it pertains to tangible benefits, those other Black and Brown women don't have any gold, diamonds, land or resources to offer. The most you're going to get out of that business arrangement is some snatch box, Jollof, Peanut Butter Soup, bush-meat and ashy heels Sometimes, as a man...all you WANT is the snatch box anyway...lol. I know a sista from Nigeria who used to make "Catfish Pepper Soup". It probably sounds nasty, but it tasted good. Here is Neely Fuller Jr.'s take on the Haitian people........

frankster And what part of... "ye shall BUY them and OWN them and they shall be your SLAVES and your children's slaves FOR EVER" ... is difficult to understand? You tell us.... What's the CORRECT understanding of this scripture?

Ah girl, you give up too easy....lol....I was getting ready to tell you.

I was discussing this with another groups of bruthaz last night. He was only 21. That's too young to be a truck driver rolling all over the country anyway. Most Black people don't choose a rope around their neck as a form of suicide. That's way down near the bottom of the list of ways most Black people would consider to off themselves, right above drinking animal poison.

ProfD I have to really wonder, are they really "on code" or is that their nature anyway? In other words...... Are White women secretly TAUGHT and TRAINED to be so publicly submissive and docile to their men? Or is it in the nature of most of them to be like that and we see it so much that we PRESUME they must have been taught to act like that because we can't believe women would naturally be so passive and docile to their men, especially as compared to how our sistaz are to us, lol. I go to places and sit down and just STUDY people from time to time....of all races. There are similarities but there are also strong differences in behavior. It's not imaginary...there is definitely a pattern of differences that I see between women of different races.

ProfD I'd imagine having a conversation with NF Jr. would be similar to that brotha in Detroit. Not even close...lol. Atleast Mr.Fuller does elaborate and go into detail when you ask him questions. He likes to give examples and illustrations and knows how to keep up the conversation and ask questions. Especially when he's doing a radio show and know the listeners don't want to hear a bunch of silence. But this particular brutha wouldn't bother with all of that. You ask him about the Moors in Spain and he'll give you the dates they occupied Spain. Then abruptly stop talking and look at you, playing with some candy in his mouth (he wasn't gay though...lol). If you didn't know him, you'd think you must have said something wrong or pissed him off. He would ONLY answer your questions. The only other time he'd talk was if he was ordering some coffee or tea from the establishment. This was before everybody was running around with cell phones. He'd thumb through a few magazines and books, but would mostly sit there looking ahead either answering somebody's question or waiting on one. That brutha was a trip....lol

.....but is you SERIOUSLY SERIOUS with that question??? Cynique, you SERIOUSLY want me to answer what a "white latino" is for you????

ProfD In fairness, they do call out the fact that FBAs cannot rely on an alliance with other Black (Tethers) or Brown (Latinos) folks. They get equal amounts of smoke. They are correct, but they tell only HALF the story. One half of the story is that most immigrants come to the U.S. with the pre-conceived and pre-judicial negative views of AfroAmericans that were given to them by White folks back in their home countries. The OTHER half of the story is when they come to the United States, many of those negative views are CONFIRMED by the ratchet and thuggish behavior of LaKeisha and Jermaine in the school, on the block, and at work...lol. I know you have a certain affinity for other Black and Brown folks when it comes to their women providing tangible benefits in the form of happy endings. MAN YOU BETTER BE QUIET....lol 🤣🤣👏👏 Don't let that clog your ears or cloud your eyes of judgement Well..... I don't see anything wrong with a little bump-n BUSINESS AGREEMENT where we exchange benefits with eachother! If you want citizenship and access to resources in my country....what do YOU have to offer me in return? Do you have land back home? Access to gold, diamonds, and other materials? What do you have to offer in exchange for OUR resources?

Are you serious????

richardmurray The similarity between your statement and Kanye's..... "I think both of you reveal your inner thinking when either of your leanest definitions of a slave don't include , until they make themselves free. " "For 400 years? That sounds like a choice to me!" ....both suggest that it was the slave's responsibility to FIGHT BACK and FREE HIMSELF instead of tolerating it. That's why I said you sound a little like Yeezy...lol. ProfD Setting oneself free i.e. escaping slavery by any means necessary is definitely an option even if it means killing folks. I'm all for it I've often fantasized about if I were on the slave plantation...how I'd kill the entire slaveholding family thinking that I'd free myself and my people. What I didn't consider was that White Slave owners also considered those possibilities and often set up protocols designed for situations such as that...which often arose. There were MANY slave rebellions and revolts in the South, but it took an actual WAR to end it.

ProfD Actually, there is a limit to all things in excess. That's why you preserve it and pass it along to the future. More money = more problems. More money + IGNORANCE often = More problems. If you have knowledge and good sense, then you use your money to help SOLVE your problems instead of making more. More money may have made more problems for Puff Daddy...chasing women down hotel hallways and whooping their asses in his white robe...but they certainly haven't for Elon Musk and the boys. When folks come down with a terminal illness or have a serious accident, they realize what's most important. It's not how much money they have in the bank or their material possessions. The most important thing is....time. Whether it is spent doing certain things or spent with family and friends, time is more valuable than anything else we can possess or consume. Ask a suicidal man who WANTS to die...right before he commits...how much HE values time. He'd wipe the tears from his eyes and tell you he'd wished his time on this planet had ended long before he was faced with having to make that decision. But you're point is understood. Time is one of the more important things because it's one of those things you can't make back up once it's gone. However I believe KNOWLEDGE and the PROPER APPLICATION of that knowledge is even more important than time. What good is a lot of time if you're dumb as hell and don't know what to do with it? Like having a lot of money, and don't know what to do with it. There is an old saying that YOUTH (time) is wasted on the young (ignorant). Some people have plenty of time and energy...but don't know what the hell to do with it. Passing down wealth to future generations is a great idea. Some folks don't have heirs to whom they can leave their wealth. Where does it go? To the state. ...probably into somebody's "rainy day" fund, lol. There's only a handful of billionaires on the planet relative to the global population. Currently, the richest person on the Earth is worth $219 billion. That's less than a quarter of a trillion dollars. It is impossible for any person to become a trillionaire under any circumstance. That's a pretty pessimistic view of wealth generation, lol. Whatever it took for a person to become a billionaire...will get them to trillionaire status if they follow that same path with enough time available. They didn't have any billionaires 100 years ago. Perhaps they thought THAT was a pipe dream that could never be achieved as well. Infact, they only had a few millionaires. Give it time.

You sound a little like Kanye when he said a few years ago (or was it last year???) that 400 years of Slavery was a CHOICE.

I'll take it a step further and say that they are trying to focus us on the BLACK IMMIGRANTS so that we'll ignore all of these illegal Latino immigrants who have flooded the nation by the millions with no signs of slowing down. I just saw an article today where Trump is promising to deport ALL OF THE HAITIANS in that small Ohio town. He never made that promise on the Latinos, but wants to target the Haitians. I have no doubt that if that racist clown gets back in office he'll try his best to fullfill his promise to deport the Haitians...while leaving the White and Brown immigrants alone That's why it's hard to ride with Tariq and some of my other brothers over this Black immigrant bashing that's going on lately. They want to clown on and bash African and Caribbean immigrants and call them tethers and many of them NEED to be checked...but still...where is this same energy for the Latino and Asian immigrants who are far more racist?

ProfD Well, we can be polite and keep the conversation going by offering our opinions and judgements and beliefs about certain things. If we ONLY talked about what we ABSOLUTELY KNEW for sure, the planet would be mighty quiet...lol. Forget about singing and rapping and poetry....lol. I knew a brutha like that back in Detroit. He would ONLY talk about what he absolutely knew and experienced and would only tell you what he believed to be the FACTS You can only imagine what it was like having a conversation....or TRYING to have one with him...lol. He used to chill in a particular establishment a lot of us in the Black Consciousness community would frequent to drop science and get up on things. He'd be sitting in there at a table sometimes with others and sometimes by himself looking ahead waiting on somebody to say something to him. He didn't even say "good morning" because he wasn't sure if it was good or not that day, lol. If you ask him something....he'd answer....but that was it, LOL. He'd just sit up there with his two legs together and some peppermint candy in his mouth, looking at you. He'd barely blink and he'd just look at you sucking on a piece of candy in his mouth, waiting on you to say something else....or leave. After a minute of that....you'd have to either walk away or bust out laughing at the situation...LOL. Anyway....... When it comes to science and education, that's when we have to be extra careful and particular...in my opinion. Math and language is one thing....although language is often tricky too. But ALL of the history we got from Caucasians need to be re-examined and sourced.

I'm not sure what to say.

There is no such thing as "enough benefits"...lol. That's like saying a person is healthy enough, or has enough money, or is beautiful enough. There's no limit to the value of certain benefits like health and wealth. Like Puff Daddy said.... "what you can't have now, leave in your will. But don't knock me....for trying to bury....seven zeros (tens of millions of dollars) down in Rio De Janeiry" LOL If you can't enjoy and use all of the wealth you have, you leave it to your children, and grand children, and so on and so forth. Yesssss.... The Pioneer would make sure his family lineage is secure for 15 generations! My great great GREAT GREAT grandkids would be walking down the stairs of their mansion and see a picture of ME on the wall staring down at them. And they'd have to just smile and say "thank you"....lol. If I were in Congress I definitely would look out for FBA and our concerns as a community and secure tangible benefits and resources for us however I'd also be striving to be the first Black TRILLIONAIRE in Congress too.

Getting paid and trying to secure some tangible benefits for yourself and your family ARE good intentions as far as I'm concerned. What makes them bad is when you lie and harm people to secure them doing so, which many if not most politicians do.

frankster Diet and Climate has a lot to do with phenotype Not when it comes to race based phenotypes like skin color, hair texture, hair color, and nose shape. Please explain relevance..... "Just like a penis is tangible...dark brown skin is also tangible." ?? A penis and skin are TANGIBLE objects that can not only be seen but felt ( 🫣 ). So they're not mere "social constructs" but biological facts. Nature is all..... yet still there is much Variety and Diversity I know you BELIEVE that Nature is all. My question for you is/was when you said, "forces with in Nature and in the Human Mind Body and Spirit....and how they can and do interact." This seems to infer that you saw the forces within the Human Mind, Body, and Spirit as DIFFERENT than the forces within Nature. Perhaps I misunderstood your statement, though.

Another White Latino fucking with our people. This is my question....... I know Miami is pretty much ran by Cubans, but where were the BLACK cops?? I didn't watch the video and don't plan on it. It's sad what they did to the brutha but.....it's to the point that if I can't do anything about it besides spit at the screen and cuss...I'm better off not even watching it. But in the brief clips I've seen of the incident, all I saw was a bunch of White officers around with him spread out on the ground; where were the Black cops? You got plenty of Black folks down in Miami whether they're FBA, Haitian, Jamaican, etc...so where were THEY during all of this and what were THEY doing?