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ProfD A country of 335 million people would disagree. More people would agree with me than you think. Why do you think private and parochial schools are so popular if so many didn't believe their children weren't being properly guided in this society? And home-schooling is gaining popularity too. Obviously we as a country aren't all on the same page of what makes "good parenting". Specify the community to which you're referring. AfroAmerican/African-American/Freedman/FBA/ADOS/Native-Niggaz/+?? Reads like some warped form of eugenics. ANY form of "eugenics" is warped for us, because we shouldn't be in the business of preserving EU-ro-GEN-et-ICS. We should be in the business of preserving and promoting AFRO-GENICS. The same Black folks who can’t get Reparations should tackle social engineering. I'd argue that proper social engineering on our part should come BEFORE Reparations. What good will money alone do for a fucked up and dysfunctional people anyway, besides fuel their further self-destruction. After the first round of checks.....alcohol poisoning and overdoses in fentanyl laced dope would quadruple around the nation. There's a whole lot of slippery slopes in your thesis. Although slipping and falling is dangerous.... In his current condition, slipping down a slope should be the LAST thing a homeless man who is already on his ass should be worried about....lol. "Before I finish this lolipop and try to get up... Somebody needs to donate some new tennis shoes to me with a good grip on 'em so'z I won't slip and fall on this slippery slope infront of me....heh heh heh." If you are hesitant to try different social engineering projects to try to solve the problems our community is faced with, ask yourself: Can our community get worse than it already is? A community already suffering from self-hatred, crime, poverty, high incarceration, broken families, and open genocide.... Other than just wiping ourselves clean off the map, what else could make things worse?

I would say appearance....to a greater or lesser degree...is an important consideration on MOST jobs. People in positions of power look at your race, your sex/gender, how attractive you are, how articulate you are, etc. They may not admit as much, but it happens. As an AfroAmerican male who hasn't been considered the most attractive person in the world, trust me....I've had to put more work in to get the same consideration for certain positions that are all but FORCED on less qualified but attractive and feminine White women. Outside of having to deal with some White men who don't want you around.....sometimes you also have to deal with some women of color who don't want you around either or could care less one way or the other...lol And once I get the job, the tolerance for me messing up was often lower so I had to out perform them.

Had a pretty interesting conversation with a Hebrew Israelite brother and sister last night over some tea, coffee, and a bean pie....lol. Straight choppin' it up! After we finished and got up, there was nothing on that table but some empty porcelain cups and a foil pan without so much as a CRUMB in that mug....lol. Apparently they believe that race and racial lineage isn't determined by...or atleast isn't JUST determined by....phenotype and what color a person is but by what race their FATHER is. As it relates to us as AfroAmericans; they seem to believe in two major lines: The line of Edom (whom most of us call White folks or Caucasians) and the line of Jacob (whom most of us call AfroAmericans and Latinos). I didn't say I agreed with this, I said that this is roughly MY UNDERSTANDING of what most of them believe. I stand to be corrected if I'm wrong. So according to them, if your father is White/Edomite but your mother is Black/Jabob....then you are actually White/Edomite. Now I don't necessarily believe that, however if it is true....that also brings up a very interesting problem in our community given the 500 plus years of racial mixing. If this is true, that means the CHILD of a White father is an Edomite no matter how mixed or Black he is. And since HE is an Edomite, that means any children he produces...even with other Black people (assuming they aren't Edomites...lol) will also be Edomites, no? Again, if I'm wrong about this understanding, someone who knows the doctrine please correct me. Because if this is the case, a LARGE percentage of us as AfroAmericans and others who LOOK like Black (Jacob) people may...according to their doctrine....actually be White children of Edom. Ofcourse I personally don't believe this, but part of me wonders IF it's true.....that would really complicate things. How would a "separation" take place without Divine help? During the conversation I actually thought about YOU @Chevdove and the number of time you posted links and did threads about DNA and how the father's lineage affected the various generations and was wondering if THIS was what you were trying to explain to us and others or where your posts making different points. Obviously I'd like to hear from our sista Chev on the matter but it also might be something our brutha @frankster may be interested in since we talk about race and ethnicity so much.

ProfD Human beings volunteer to do things that make life better for others. Human beings start wars leading to death and destruction. Which is good or evil, both or neither? IMO, a personal decision that doesn't adversely affect the lives of others isn't a matter of good or evil If....not that I agree with it....but IF human beings were the ultimate authority over what is right and wrong, then WARS are both good AND evil. Good for the winner....and evil for the loser. Would I be correct in that assessment?

Although I don't agree with them, I actually have more respect for the Black Sell-outs (those who are paid to do so or given positions for doing so) who support Trump and the Republicans, than for the regular Black folks on the street who simply support him because of his rhetoric. Atleast Black Republican officials are getting TANGIBLES for their betrayal of the Black community. Which again...I DO NOT endorse.

What would be the negative consequences of simply LUSTING after her....being that it's only in one's mind? We're not talking about where it could LEAD TO. Hell, lusting after MONEY could lead you to robbing a bank if you want to go down that route...lol. But if it's JUST LUST...then it's only a mental action.

On a similar but different note..... I no longer think it's a sin to lust after another man's wife. To actually HAVE SEX with another man's wife.....perhaps...depending on the type of marriage they have; but to simply lust after her...no. Being non-religious, I look at what is considered "right" and "wrong" and "neutral" totally different than when I was a Bible believer.

Most WHITE Trump supporters aren't crazy. I think most of the Black ones are.....lol...but most of the White ones aren't. They know EXACTLY what they are doing when they support Trump and why they support him. Most of them are DECEIVED, because he's not going to carry out the agenda that they expect him to if he gets in....like he didn't last time; but they do know what they are expecting out of him. A lot of the Black people that I know who support Trump are doing so strictly for IMMIGRATION alone. They seriously believe that this dude is going to do some sort of "mass deportation" and send all of the illegal immigrants back to their own countries.....lol They SERIOUSLY believe this. I've talked to DOZENS of Black folks I know in real life who support Trump ONLY because of this and they sincerely believe that he will do this.

Oh, dictating as in "speaking" into it? I've heard the term since childhood but didn't actually relate it to cell phone and computer work. When I hear/read the word "dictate" I picture a man walking around an office talking while his secretary is typing away at a typewriter or word processor...lol. Even with that, too many mistakes seem to be made because if you mispronounce a word or speak "Black English" that deviates from the more standard "White Middleclass English" the text will misprint.

frankster Race is 100% social....Ethnicity on the other hand is based on Heredity Culture Geography etc.. How is race "100% social" when it's based on PHENOTYPICAL features, which are biological? One race.... I wouldn't expect any other answer from you since you consider "everybody" African. So if they mixed with Greek colonizer....At what point they no longer African? They weren't African to begin with. Given more years like over 100 thousand who knows maybe that kind of change would occur. Not sure who would know, but I'm sure neither you nor I would since we haven't lived that long to observe it. So why conjecture? Let us talk about what we KNOW for sure. Those two women look totally different because of BIOLOGY...not geographical location. Teach me about these White caucasian Aryans of the Indus Valley. Ok. Aryans in the Indus Valley 101...lol The Aryans were a tribe of Caucasians (one of many) who came from the Caucasus mountains (thus their racial classification/name), traveled to the Indus Valley region where they found the Black Dravidians (who were racially different from them) and conquered and oppressed them and drove many of them further south and east. That Africans were here in the Americas from time immemorial.....Thats my point. Oh? I thought your point was the statement you made a few posts ago that: "it is now coming out That Most Native people found in the Americas were black Africans" That was your statement. I'm still waiting for you (and Dane Calloway...lol) to prove THAT statement.

Wow....that's crazy. I know Caucasians had different tests around the world they used to classify different races and the different admixtures, but I didn't know about this one. I wonder where the "Coloured" population fit in with the "pencil test".

I like to post pictures too. It's very awkward trying to do that with a little celly. Cell phones are good for talking and texting, but actually doing work or extensive typing and editing???? ....your fingers and fine motor skills must be superbly evolved....lol.

ProfD A human being doesn't have to be religious to know the difference between good and evil (bad). Just a matter of living long enough to see and/or experience the difference Right and wrong....yes. Good and evil...🤔...hmmm??? No, you don't have to be religious. I'm not religious myself, however I definitely believe in The SUPREME BEING and Divinity in general. If you believe in Neither, then basically you would believe that human beings are the ultimate authority. Thus..."good" as well as "evil" would be a matter of OPINION...personal or societal...varying from person to person, society to society, and circumstance to circumstance? frankster There is only Good....Evil is the absence of Good So in other word, you're saying evil DOESN'T EXIST.

I usually use a laptop....or desk top....when I'm on a message board or doing extensive typing. I don't see how somebody can enjoy the experience and fully express themselves on a message board like this trying to peck away on a small ass cell phone...lol. You'd keep messing up, swiping off the page, hitting the wrong buttons and wrong emojis....lol.

ProfD I agree that parents SHOULD be the first teacher but everybody...and in this society I would say MOST people...don't have parents who know how to be good/proper men and women THEMSELVES; let alone have the ability to teach their children how to. We are at a point that things have gotten so bad in our community that we can no longer rely on parents to do their jobs. They don't know WHAT the hell to do. Too many individual wild ass households out there to leave it up to the parents today. The parents aren't even in the picture most of the time. Half the time NEITHER the mother or father is there and the grandparents or church going aunties are raising these kids. We have to first decide what we want the next generation of Black American youth to look like and then COLLECTIVELY come up with institutions to teach BOTH the adults and the children these values and continue this for several generations UNTIL parents are able to individually teach it to their children the way it should be taught.

ProfD Every generation feels similarly about their most productive time period. I beg your pardon, but the 80s and 90s wasn't MY most productive time period...lol. I've always been productive to various degrees, but actually those decades were the most ignorant and least productive time period of my life. Black music constantly evolves. I believe our natural creativity along with environment and technology fuels it. True. However things seems to be different since 2000. Unlike the past when WE controlled our own music, it seems like outsiders have more control over the music AfroAmericans make and listen to today. Still, a man knows when a woman really wants him. There's no misunderstanding or confusion. I think you underestimate (George Bush said "mis-under-estimated"...lol) the IGNORANCE and CLUELESSNESS of some of these young dudes out there. It seems like many of them can't take ANY TYPE of a hint. Totally clueless as to when a girl is interested...and don't seem to get it when a girl is clearly NOT...lol. Things are different today than from when we were younger. I don't know how many dudes have gotten fired from the job because they just wouldn't leave some woman alone who made it plain as day- ....as in telling him to leave her alone ....as in not saying a word to him or even looking at him and keep on doing her work ....as in telling him she's going to TELL MANAGEMENT IF HE DOESN'T LEAVE HER ALONE -that she wasn't interested in him. Some of these niggas just didn't have a clue or simply didn't care.

Your family BETTER have nice teeth if yall wanted to chill amongst the upper class Black elite families of the Eastcoast...lol. All of those Black doctors, professors, and politicians. You and your wife knew better than to bring your children to those Jack and Jill parties with a mouth full of raggedy teeth.

My man Tariq Nasheed called somebody's idea stupid ass "rent em spoons" idea. I had to look that up to figure out what he meant by that and it took me back to one of my favorite shows....MARTIN, lol. That shit was over 30 years ago, I don't know why that was even still on Tariq's mind but it was funny as hell.

frankster Exactly.....and so will her treatment or privileges be accorded to her depending on the society's classification of her. Her Biology and Anatomy remain the same in all these societies. My point is, racial classification is a social construct but the actual RACE itself isn't. It doesn't change. With regard to the picture you presented...they appeared to the modern eye of the same race - True or False No. There are two different races in the picture. 4 different ethnic groups...two different races. I would not call them Caucasians.....but lighter skinned than their fellow Africans Doesn't matter what YOU would call them....lol ....sheeeyid..... YOU wanna run around here calling EVERYBODY "Africans".....lol. They ARE what they ARE regardless of what somebody wants to "call" them. They aren't Caucasian simply because of their lighter skin ALONE. They are Caucasians because of their ancestral origins. The White Berbers (Amazigh people) descend from Greek colonizers who settled on the shores of North Africa centuries earlier. True...... but that same woman can move from Africa and come to North America and get a lighter skin tone in a matter of a few years. A few shades lighter isn't the same as going from this: to this: The differences between these two women go much farther than just culture/ethnicity or a mere sun tan....lol. No....They were never originally Caucasians. Apparently, you don't know the history of the Indus Valley region very well. Either that and/or the meaning of the term "Caucasian". These were One set of Africans inhabiting N and S America Correct. And your point is? There were many sets of Africans residing in the Americas AMONG the various tribes of brown skinned Native Americans.

Be glad there's a TV SCREEN in the way.....lol.

frankster Yes society says they are....so within that society they are...Society is created by Man and enforced. in Dominican society Zoe Zaldana maybe considered white....in American society she is Black.... in South Africa she is Colored. Biologically she is human While this is true, her RACE didn't actually change in these different countries; only her racial CLASSIFICATION. In other words... Her skin tone, hair texture, and featured didn't change. Only how those in power chose to classify them, did. So the Nubians and the Egyptians are different races? In some cases, yes. Nubian is an ethnic group. Egyptian is a nationality....composed of different races and ethnicities. What about the Berber and the Asians in the picture above they are different race? Most Berbers were Caucasian...at that time. Today, most are mixed and even Black. Most Asians....as depicted in Egypt....were a slightly mixed but still Caucasian people. Ethnicity is based on Geography, culture heritage language and diet all of ...which influences appearance To a certain extent, but not as much as biology itself A woman can lose fat and gain more muscle through diet and exercise but no amount of changing her diet or exercise will turn her into a MAN....that's genetic/biological. Totally different ethnicity. Aryans were not what we considers white But they were Caucasian, originally. And later on many of them became mixed up to where the term became fluid. But originally....it referred to the Caucasian tribes who invaded the Indus Valley region. The Olmecs Yes....what about them?

I miss the RnB of the 80s and 90s. It looked much more civil and sophisticated compared to the shit out today. You don't see Black youth dancing and singing like this today. But now a days, young men have to be careful with playing "hard to get" games with women. You don't know if she's playing or serious....and the wrong move can land you with a sexual charge.

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Eric Holder???????? WTF...lol. That nigga ain't been relevant in about 75 years! Didn't Obama kick him to the curb during his first term?

That sure is a "toothy" family up there.....lol. Like they just left the dentist office from a teeth cleaning or something. But I'm not going to hold you up Troy...... I might have to HOLLA at one of (or maybe both 🤔 ) your two older daughters you got grinning up there, about some business. I might have to sit down with one of them (or both!) and discuss the future of AALBC....over a cup of coffee and some cheese cake....lol.