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I was looking, I thought you or somebody did a thread on them having Break Dancing at the Olympics, but I didn't find it. That shit was a complete joke. Especially some White Australian woman they had on there squirming and wallowing all over the floor looking like a fool. They called it Break Dancing but really it was just floor-work. Spinning and wiggling. No foot work or Up Rocking that you have in most complete Breaking moves and sessions. Like Tariq Nasheed said, they don't have the rhythm or Soul to do those kind of moves, so they stick with the floor-work and it ends up looking like acrobatics. Like most things the get from us, they steal it and then twist it and contort it to the point you barely recognize what the hell it even is. Now they're talking about they won't even have Break Dancing at the next Olympics in '28

My vote would be for sale under the proper conditions. If you promised me money and other TANGIBLES over your opponent and I believe you would honestly deliver on those promises (key factor) then you could literally BUY my vote!

Seems to me you've hit the nail on the head. Not much to add to this...lol.

So what does that say about us?

frankster Never said it was true.. You said they were Black because SOCIETY SAID they were Black. The very word race itself denotes a competition or contest... Yes, and WE should be competing with and trying to "out do" in this race, instead of trying to "get along" with our open enemy. They've shown time and time again that there is NO "getting along" with them. The people who conceptualize the idea of Race saw the White(europeans) Race as on top or first or best....and Black(African) as worst bottom or last The Egyptians were among the first to conceptualize the idea of race. They call their region KMT (Black land)...as opposed to the Red Land that the Caucasians were dwelling in. Most competitive event is measured from a top down perspective ....winners to loser - thats Hierarchical. For those who have sense enough to realize this. So far, the Caucasians HAVE had enough sense to realize that they are competing with others....when will we? The Pseudo Science of Races which was invented in the West for the purpose of oppressing some people....was accept from the 1600 to the mid 1900 as Scientific fact. Perhaps you're right that the "pseudo science" for races was invented by the West, but as I've said before...the ancient Egyptians as well as those in India knew about race and the differences in the races for THOUSANDS of years before today. It is not based on or in biology.... Deny all you want. You simply don't want to accept it....that's all. I can't make you. No... Science continually repeats tests and proves its theories with new methods tools and hypothesis It tests THEORIES....not established facts. Nobody is out there "testing" to see if water is still made up of 2 atoms of Hydrogen and 1 atom of Oxygen This is already been established as FACT. If it's a FACT then it needs no more testing because it has been proven to be true. If new evidence/facts is found that brings into question formally accepted theories thought to be scientific fact.... Again, when you're dealing with theories.......not facts. Those theories in question...if they do not stand up to new and modern scrutiny will be reject as false and unscientific or fitted in to the new paradigm. Correct. Again, we're dealing with THEORIES. But what has been established as FACT/TRUTH remains the same. If it was true in 1600....then it's still true today. Even if the situation changed, it's still true that it was "true" at that time. In other words, if this land was occupied by Native Americans 1000 years ago....that's STILL TRUE. It's not true that they still occupy it, but the fact that it WAS occupied by them 1000 years ago was true THEN, true NOW, and will be true IN THE FUTURE. No "new knowledge" will come out to disprove this. If information comes out that tries to....it will be lies. Much of the "new knowledge" that you see a lot of people coming out with over the internet isn't new information or knowledge at all but LIES that they pulled out of their ass to make their point or bolster their propaganda.

frankster Nature created Diversity and Variety Man used it to make Division and Separation. If something is diverse, it's already separate...in appearance atleast. Race is nothing more than a way to CATEGORIZE that diversity or variety. We all are Africans the differences you see is diet geography and culture....evolution I don't believe that. Truth is we all are different individually familially clan tribally ethnically nationally and Geographically. Correct. And we have various ways to categorize THOSE differences. Race Tribe Sex Gender Language Region These are all different terms used to categorize those differences in an organized manner. So now we measuring whose oppression is worst Well, YOU may not be....but I certainly am measuring it. I'm not going to say that what southern Italians or Irish had to deal with is "just as bad" as what AfroAmericans had to deal with. Some oppression IS worse than others. No not necessarilly as Blacks.....would you prefer people of color - or as victims of the oppression At THIS point...right now...I'd prefer them fight their own battles and we as AfroAmericans focus on fighting ours. Because a lot of "people of color" have shown themselves to be racists too and not worthy "allies" against White racism. How were they helping to maintain it? Because they not only benefit from being praised for their light skin (which they couldn't help), but they were also GLOATING about it and would often denigrate darker skinned girls and even some darker skinned boys. Even at that young age they clearly knew they were privileged and held in higher esteem by their fellow AfroAmerican peers for their complexion, and they relished in it. The people down there who support Trump want that wall and to keep immigrants out.....Trump is using that issue to divide America and garner votes. America is already divided....Trump is simple EXPLOITING that division. Just like he didn't invent racism....but he's using it. Those are not the immigrants they want....but will allow some who fit a specific criteria It depends on the "they" you're referring to. Most of the racists who are bringing the illegal Central American immigrants in definitely want those type of immigrants because they are non-White but also non-Black and feel they can use them as a buffer-class between us. No it was not low intelligence or poor technology but divisions from with in Greece was conquered by Rome....Rome was less intelligent and had poorer technology than Greece I'm not sure about this, I have to do more research on it. The Arabs conquered Persia....Persians was way way way more intelligent and advance than the Arabs I'm not sure about this either. Not saying you're wrong...but I have to do more research. Perhaps in the PAST the Persians more advanced and smarter than the Arabs, but at the time of the Arabs actually conquering the Persian empire...not only were the Arabs united in religion and culture but they had a wealth of knowledge and technology that they got from other cultures and lands that they were able to organize and put to use. And perhaps they simply were a larger force than the Persians...intelligence and technology aside. I've heard a lot of racists...pro-Aryan and Indo-European promoters say that the Persians were smarter and more civilized than the Arabs, but they say this because the Persia empire was an Aryan based empire. However I'll have to do more research before agreeing with or arguing against that one.😉 Yes we can....Obama The Obama Presidency actually exacerbated more division in the United States than unity. Yes, a lot of people came together to vote him in as President; but a lot more people who were already divided and racist became even more irate and aggravated and the result was Donald Trump. ProfD The agency we establish to handle reparations will be responsible for determining who qualifies for it. Exactly. Essentially we would establish GATE-KEEPERS for our community to make this determination.....which every effective and sovereign community must have if they want to maintain integrity and independence. If not, then the "government" will make those decisions for us...and you know how THAT will turn out. Black folks have to become more organized, on code and active. I personally believe that a very important key to that is first determining WHO is Black and who is not. If you don't want Brad Walinski getting a monthly Reparations check because he grew some dreadlocks and claimed African American by way of his great great grand mom....we better have a good Gate-keeping system. "Yo broooo......... Did you get yer check for this month, yet? I got mine....and guess what I spent it on!"

I mentioned earlier on another thread that the original Olympics were started in HONOR of Black "people". The original Deities of Greek society like Apollo and Athena were physical Black Beings, who helped civilize them and gave them culture and assisted them in other ways. The honored these Beings by holding events and performing athletic feats.

Charlamagne said he was a DEI selection....lol. Although I personally don't like it, I do think it was a politically strategic move. I guess when you're operating on that level you have to have a White man somewhere in the mix to keep the wolves off your back. I've been in management and supervisory positions and put White men or women in certain spots because they were White. It was always a chess move for a greater goal.

I understand that. However as an individual, some men consider some things worth dying for....regardless of the outcome. You don't hear about these types of incidents happening too much to Arabs or Iranians. Yes, wars are fought with them...but not on an individual level like this. With all of the Arabs and Iranians living in the U.S....there's gotta be atleast 5 million...when was the last time you heard of the police running up in one of THEIR houses and killing a child or woman? There's a reason for that. I think most White men instinctively know that although they have the firepower and outnumber any Arab man in his house with his own family, they know they would have to kill HIM before harming his woman or his children. Period. They know this with almost certainty. The Arab man knows he will die...or there's a high chance he will. He knows that, but doesn't care....because he feels that some things are WORTH dying for as an individual...regardless as to what other people may choose to do. And I believe White men respect this.

frankster Well, if you have used it yourself.....can you say that it has increased YOUR creativity or productivity from a personal standpoint? If so, was this the case with each and every use? Most of the time but not all the time? Some of the time? At no time?

frankster Black connotes a racial categorization....I see racial categorization as a social convention It is. - if you live in a racist society then the society treats you according to how it categorizes you. True The US as a racist society states that if you have one drop of black blood then you are black True ...if you belong to the US society then that convention holds and is binding. Not necessarily. Just because society believe it, doesn't mean it's true. It could be that society was miseducated and ignorant. The idea of races is based on hierarchy. Currently, yes...but not necessarily. Race can be compared to flavors of ice cream. Obviously there are different flavors; that FACT can't be denied. Now if a person or people want to SELECT one flavor and claim it's better or tastes better than the other flavors...that doesn't eliminate the fact that there ARE distinct and different flavors of ice cream; it simply means that they are trying to enforce THEIR opinions about a particular flavor on others. neither are they white.....just humans various shades or hues of brown Ok, so do you agree with me that these mixed presenting people are NOT Black? Now the idea of race as biology has weaken....and so has racism with it. I'm not sure what you mean by that. Biology is science, which means it's true. If something is true....then it's just as true NOW as it was in the PAST.

Actually, it was the media who MADE Donald Trump in the first place. A lot of people came along saying the same shit he was saying. Pat Buchanan was one of them; but the media barely acknowledge him or his bid for the presidency, except when someone wanted to do an article on right-wing extremist politics. But Trump came along saying the craziest and zaniest shit...and CNN was the first to report every word of it to the American people. CeeLo Green said, "them crackaz thank they slick". They PROMOTED this right wing racist clown to the American people and helped get him in office, all the while CLAIMING to criticize him and his ideology. CNN gave him the most free advertisement of any President. Damn near every rally he gave in 2015 and 2016 was covered live and uncut by CNN and Fox News. They air his speeches live, then turn around and tell you he's a liar, divisive, and you shouldn't listen to him. Reminds me of Dee from What's Happening!! "Hey mama..... Roger gave me $5 to NOT tell you he was going to that party tonight. So I won't tell you that he went to that party tonight."

Yes, we need to start being more PRO-ACTIVE than RE-ACTIVE.

ProfD The murder of George Floyd sparked protests worldwide. Then, everybody took their signs, bottled water and went home. Back to their regularly scheduled program. True. During the riots of 2020 I remember specifically in places like Kentucky they were actually talking about giving Black people Reparations as a form of appeasment to get them to stop rioting and get off the streets. We had this society on it's knees ready to give us anything we wanted. Yet another opportunity squandered when after a few weeks they got quiet and went back to the couch to smoke that fake weed again. N8gglets are aware of the problems going on here. They're afraid and powerless. Well off n8gglets don't want to get involved because they have arrived. They also got SENSE. Which is one of the reasons they are able to live well off in the first place. They have sense enough to know that if they put themselves out there on the line...most niggaz on the street can't be counted on to back them up. From slavery through Civil Rights, I don't recall Black folks from anywhere else on the planet putting on the cape for us. I do see them trying to ride our coattails when it comes to flavor though. Stealing our music, style, fashion, lingo, etc. Well.... At the moment, I can't come up with an example myself...lol. If there ARE any, then it must not be TOO many...lol.

Well.... My first question is WHO will be conducting these "clinical trials" on the African population? Who's doing it directly and who's guiding it? If it's BY Africans and FOR Africans, I support it. But I don't support any clinical "trials" (yeah right....like you don't already know what the results will be when you inject people with something) being done to Africans by White folks, period. I don't give a damn if they're way the hell over in London guiding it while they got a bunch of niggas in rubber gloves, white coats, and masks down on the ground implementing it. If it came from THEM...I don't trust it. And if they conduct these medical trials and do this research, WHO will get the data? Will we as a people keep it amongst ourselves and use this information to help ourselves and cure our problems? Or will a bunch of Africans in skinny suits and glasses go running to "massa" with a stack of papers in their hands...... can't wait to show him all the information they gathered and what they discovered. "Ooooohh.......... I betcha big daddy would looooove to see this! Get him on the phone Grady!!!"

Why is this a surprise? Even back in the 60s Malcolm was talking about how SOME of those in the KKK traded in their white sheets for police uniforms. As recent as 2016 the FBI came out and TOLD US straight up that racists from groups like the KKK and Neo-Nazi organizations were infiltrating the police force and I said that on here several times; and I also remember that YOU @Troy gave me flack over those statements. On atleast one occasion when I mentioned and even brought out articles and statements from the FBI that these racist groups were infiltrating the law enforcement departments all over the nation and that Obama and others need to do something about it....you said that wasn't proof or evidence or something of that nature. Your argument was that an "attempt" to do something wasn't the same as them actually doing it. So now that a stone faced White man comes along and tells you something that I've BEEN telling you, I guess you'll believe him. 🤨

This thread was spun off another one where the issue came up about men trying to be controlling. First of all I want TOTAL HONESTY.....not politically correct statements and feminist ideology. I personally believe in fairness and totally equal rights between men and women, however I still recognize that the two are different and those differences compliment eachother and should be celebrated. Having said that, whether it's by nature or by social engineering....men tend to be more aggressive and action taking than women. It's a fact...whether it's good or bad. So my questions are this............. As a woman would you rather be CONTROLLED by a man (I know this sounds like a no-brainer but....I'm asking for complete honesty and if atleast some women didn't want to be controlled they wouldn't be in those relationships), LEAD by a man, or neither? Also...and again, total honesty...which is more attractive and sexy to you, a man who CONTROLS you, LEADS you, or leaves you alone and allows you to totally live your life as a co-partner of his?

Interesting comments........... Troy Oh...women are different??? Thanks for telling something that I already know, lol.😉 BTW...I don't know any WOMAN who would agree with their own son getting his captain cut off at 13. Something seems a little wrong with that sista. Most Black women I know, if they heard their sons like that...her and Daddy go have to have a conversation, lol. Chev and ProfD I haven't met many women who liked to be "controlled" but most women I know DO like it when men take the lead in situations. Most tend to be a little more shy and reserved when it comes to taking action.

When I think of Black WWII soldiers, I think of that movie by Spike Lee Miracle At St. Anna I miss that brother's film making. I know we have Jordan Peele and Tyler Perry, but they just don't hit that spot like Spike's joints.

ProfD Folks been tribal for a long time. Evidenced by the way people are grouped all over the planet based on race, country, culture and hairline and foreheads, etc. Facts. I'm dealing with Africans right now who won't even sit at the same table with each other over shit like skin tone, hair texture, religion, and other tribal differences. And they aren't playing either. I try to keep it cool, but a year ago I got angry before I knew it and had to tell one of them, "Don't bring that tribalist shit over here!" AfroAmericans as FBA/ADOS can delineate from Black folks who don't believe in reparations for America's original sin. If that's the case, we'd have to delineate from half of other AfroAmericans...who don't support our getting Reparations for one reason or another, lol. That being written, distractions at best, I don't see how colorism and degrees of Blackness benefit our people in dealing with the system of racism white supremacy.😎 Truth Knowledge Facts ....are always beneficial. If not now, surely they will be later. If nothing else but establishing the TRUTH about who is and who is not Black or AfroAmerican, that in and of itself is a great benefit. Suppose we get Reparations next year.... If we didn't separate the TRUE AfroAmericans (especially descendants of Slaves) from fakers, charlatans, and White folks with dreadlocks simply CLAIMING to be AfroAmerican...what's to stop everybody from cashing in on money meant for us? frankster The division was created by racist.....so as to better keep people divided No. Those divisions and differences were created by The CREATOR. Just like males and females were created differently; people with different skin colors, hair textures, and facial features were also created differently. All the racists did was come up with THEIR OWN way of categorizing those differences that already existed. True....but they were still expose to the same oppression as all africans or blacks were. They were oppressed but I wouldn't say they experienced necessarily the "same" oppression because historically mixed races were GENERALLY treated better than the unmixed oppressed race that they were mixed with. Think house nigga vs field nigga, positions which were often decided upon based on skin tone and closeness to Whiteness. That being said, why should their experiences warrant them to be wear the same identity as us? Native Americans were also oppressed and victims of genocide....should we embrace THEM as Black too? A situation bought on by their peculiar circumstance....in order to "pass" they must distance themselves from that which they are. Some like Hoover took it too far.... Hoover hell....lol...that man wasn't Black and we shouldn't claim him as such. He was a racist sissy..that's all we know about him. His "degree of Blackness" is pure speculation that hasn't been proven bit. True.. Are they to be blamed? Did they create and maintain this system? They didn't create it but they were helping to maintain it and they certainly benefitted from it. Really maybe you haven't been playing close enough attention to recent political shenanigans around the southern border and fence/wall building. I've paid enough attention to it to come to the conclusion that they have no intention of building any type of "wall" down there NOR do they have any intention of keeping illegal immigrants out. To the contrary, the racist Establishment has a vested interest in BRINGING IN more illegal immigrants in order to replace the AfroAmerican population. Did you pay attention to how they are letting the lighter skinned immigrants walk on through but MADE SURE TO STOP THE BLACK HAITIANS and turn them around at the border?? You are dividing and disowning your own.... ???? Who is "my own"? If they aren't Black or AfroAmerican, they ARE NOT "my own" That's the very point of the division, to establish WHO is "our people" and who is not. division in our ranks leads to being conquered. Not necessarily. Based on my research and observations, low intelligence and poor technology is what leads to being conquered. Lest unite and work together against racism. Try it. Tell me how it works out. Maybe prisoners can work with the prison warden and corrections officers to "end" the oppression going on in prisons. Rodney King asked the question, can't we all just get along. Perhaps he has the answer now.

The more simplistic answer would be that surely a demon/devil would be driven to respond like that.😉 We can laugh at the notion all we want and dismiss it as silly and move on to another explanation....but still, lol. Let us not overlook the obvious.

A less talked about event at the Olympics was how Brittney Griner held her hand over her heart and cried when the American National Anthem was being played. With all the problems that exist in the United States, there's nothing like being held captive in a Russia prison to make you appreciate how much better you have it here than many other places around the world. All we have to do is talk to some of these immigrants and observe how they treat us and interact with us to get a GLIMPSE of how Black folks are treated in their home countries.

frankster Appearances can be deceptive Exactly. Which is why people who claim to smoke weed to become "smarter" or more "creative" should be careful not to mistake the FEELING of being more creative with actual creativity itself. There are certain reward chemicals in your brain that often get activated when you consume a substance you're addicted to that make you FEEL like you've really accomplished a great task when you really haven't. I think Most Shaman mostly smoke.....tobacco I don't know a lot of Shamans so I'm not sure, but from my understanding tobacco (pure tobacco....not the shit found in a pack of Newports...lol) is one of MANY MANY herbs that they will smoke to achieve certain effects. How do you know that weed is not among the variety of herbs.....they use I don't. Marijuana is a tool if you do not know how to use it.....like tobacco it becomes a toy to be abused Marijuana can be a POISON if you don't know how to use it also. The question is, HOW should it be used? And WHO is qualified to teach/instruct others on it's proper use?

I've Never had the desire to be woman. I love being a man. Being a man (and a boy ofcourse...lol) has been what I know since birth, so I know how that feels. However, from time to time I've been very curious about how women think....lol. How do they arrive at the conclusions they arrive. How do they make their decisions. When they see and interact with men, what goes through their minds. I ask these questions from time to time but what inspired me to do a threat on it was a video I just watched where a sista was talking about transgendered people and she said if she saw a man coming up into the women's bathroom she'd run and look for the closest window to jump out of...lol. Perhaps she was just exaggerating, but as men...we pretty much wouldn't have THAT type of reaction to a woman coming up in our bathroom; but I know a lot of women would definitely be frightened. I recognize we have the same basic emotions, but it appears that women tend to be more sensitive or perhaps their emotions are more intense. Just, how does it FEEL being a woman or how is your THOUGHT PATTERN as a woman? I know a woman FEELS soft physically, but do you feel "soft" mentally or emotionally? Do you have to try extra hard to be as assertive as you think men are? Even being pregnant and giving birth. It can't be too comfortable, yet women still do it and seem "driven" to do it. How does it feel????

I've heard them speak out for us and comment on our plight and even hold demonstrations. I remember back a few years ago when there were major protests going on in the U.S. not only did a lot of Black British take to the streets in protest but a lot of Black Israelis started hitting the streets and confronting White Israelis over racism in Israel saying they were inspired by Black Americans. They do what they can. But can we expect others to come over and do for us what so many of our people aren't even doing for themselves? Most of these niccaz don't even know what's going on RIGHT HERE in America in their own backyard. Whether we should get involved in what's going on over there is one thing. However what's so disappointing is the IGNORANCE of so many of our people of what's going on over there. It's not that our people simply don't care, but many of them don't even KNOW. And it's like....how can you NOT know what's being talked about all over the news for the past week? What are you busy doing? I know we have to live our lives and pay the bills, however.....what are so many of our people so busy engaged in that basic news seems to escape them and they are clueless as to what is being talked about as major headlines for the past week? But to your point..... I can't get angry at the Black folks in England or Nigeria or Israel for not putting on the cape and coming over here to help us when most of the niccaz RIGHT HERE in America who are the very victims of racism ain't doing a damn thing to help themselves and are clueless as to what's happening to their own women and children.