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They already HAVE this. It's called SPECIAL EDUCATION ....and they've been implementing this program in public schools for decades. The primary "treatment" has been medicating the students until they're drooling on themselves.

Greg A better question would be: Why are colleges OFFERING (and even worse... CHARGING for) useless degrees?

NIGGA IZ YOU SERIOUS?????????? Lol...NOW you're worried about offending us????

When a White judge sees a White defendant....he often sees his son/daughter.....sister/brother.....mother/father.

But not before that water turns them from cute little big-eyed furballs into big scaly monsterous mischief makers....LOL

Mel Wow... What a way to start off the week! Cynique Offering a reason for your not being a supporter of Fred Hampton's politics was in response to what? Your and Mel's posts featuring him. Who said i was aligned with his beliefs? Who accused you of being so?

Mel It's all love. BTW... You've been extra nice and attentive to me lately. For some reason, I feel that the other shoe is about to drop.....lol

Mel I've pulled up enough links today to support my position. So, I'm going to ask you to pull up our record of social and civil movements, voting history and institutions since black men got the right to vote in 1870... That gives you 5 years grace period from enslavement. And then tell me with evidence, that we haven't continuously moved to make this place equitable since 1870. Note: Black Women didn't get to vote until 1920. I didn't say we haven't. That's not my argument. My argument was that: a) Only a HANDFUL of people in our community have been the ones doing the fighting, not the majority or even a sizeable percentage. and b) Our community has been too politically and socially unstable to form alliances with other groups. A few quick examples would be the fact that a Black man (Uncle Tom Thomas) helped overturn Roe vs Wade. Another is that of all people....BLACK people (especially Black men) INCREASED their support for an open racist like Trump: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54972389 https://www.thedailybeast.com/more-black-men-went-with-trump-this-time-i-asked-a-few-of-them-why https://thecincinnatiherald.com/2020/11/one-in-three-black-men-backed-trump-in-blue-wall-states/ Trump displayed more open racism than any President in modern history and for some reason his support among many AfroAmericans INCREASED. I know this to be true based on personal observation. You may have seen some white people out there working with you but they make up the majority of the population. Pareto Principle - If 20 percent of the people do 80 percent of the work then you will see 8,200,000 black people working in the social movements alongside 46,200,000 white folks. AND we don't live in the same states! So please don't say black people aren't working - there are 41 million black people in the U.S. and as usual we are working twice as hard to get half as much. Slow down and CALM down... You are arguing against points that I haven't even made! I said the Whites who WERE working with me were more hyped and ready to fight and take on the system than the Black people there, including the Black people who were homeless. It wasn't a matter of who made up the majority in the organization, it was a matter of DESIRE and who wanted to be in the movement and more importantly who wanted to be ACTIVE in the movements itself. Our movements were founded by Black people like myself, but often times when Whites would join we had to FIGHT TO KEEP THEM FROM TAKING OVER! They'd show up at every meeting and offering all kinds of suggestions while most of the Black folks who DID come would be chilling at the back of the room. They showed more of a DESIRE to confront the system and make changes....even if they weren't sincere about it and had other motives. They atleast put on a good show. I couldn't even get the average negro to do THAT. Couldn't get him to even PRETEND to give a damn...lol.

Mel Oh nooooo.....lol

Mel When I speak of our instability....I'm talking about our political instability and what we're willing to fight for, not necessarily the GENERAL instability in our community. However that said.... White people caused MUCH of the instability of our community but not all of it, and probably not even most of it. Our people have a long history of infighting and jealousy among eahcother that goes back centuries even before the Trans Atlantic Slave Trade. Our INTERNAL instability and being so divided over petty differences is what allowed Caucasians to take advantage of us in the first place and is STILL the primary source of their power. The Flint Water Crisis that you brought up is a perfect example.... Flint is a majority Black city with a majority Black city council and a Black mayor. So why did they ALLOW White folks to come in and poison their water without physically stopping them from doing so? Infact, given the history of Caucasians in general....why didn't they AUTOMATICALLY suspect them of being up to no good before it got this far? Black people don't have a history of poisoning the water in White communities....yet in most White communities a Black man can go strolling down the street without being noticed and suspected of not belonging there and being up to no good! Back in 2016 when it jumped off me and some other people went up to Flint and found out that a few years earlier they had even re-arranged the pipes underground so that the water would affect only certain neighborhoods. YES I blame the racists for this....but I blame that Black people of the city even MORE because they aren't a bunch of squirrels, they could have seen what was going on and put an end to it if they WANTED to. When I was doing community work for the homeless....it was the White people (whether they were sincere or not I don't know) who were more willing to fight and challenge the city and county than the majority of the Black people who were homeless themselves! "We" as a community aren't getting up and fighting....a SMALL PERCENTAGE of our people have and that's what got us our rights. Most of our people AREN'T fighting but are either selling out or DESIRE to sell out but don't know where to start...lol. It's a SMALL PERCENTAGE of intelligent and brave Black people who are carrying the load for the rest of the community who benefits from their labor. And the small percentage of Black people who are willing to stand up and fight and challenge the system has gotten smaller and smaller over the past few decades and has brought us to where we are right now.

richardmurray You're right, the primary concern of most AfroAmericans is money. The problem is, most don't understand that massive amounts of money is ATTAINED and MAINTAINED through a lot of other issues that they tend to ignore. You try to talk to a Black man about politics... "Man I ain't THANKIN' 'bout no politics right now, I'm trying to get my hands on some of them green thangs" Not realizing that politics determines WHO gets the money and how much of it is gotten! You try to talk to the Black man about laws and legal restrictions...... "What? Man...fuck out my face with that shit. I ain't got time to listen you jaw-jacking about law school . I'm out here trying to survive!" Not realizing that the laws passed and enforced determine his very FREEDOM. Whatever the hell he manages to scrap up might get snatched away and used as evidence by the cops if the wrong laws are passed. Too many of our people have a low...base...thinking on a very simple level not realizing how various things in this society connects. They don't care and are indifferent about too many things and this is what KEEPS them in a constant state of struggle and survival. They aren't interesting in anything except making money....but they aren't making money....because they're neglecting that which DOES generate wealth in this society. This abortion ruling will directly affect AfroAmericans because it will FORCE more of our women to have more unwanted pregnancies and thus increase the poverty and incarceration rates.

Mel As you can see in a supremacists' nation, 'white' women contribute. They can go back to their neighborhoods and blend in. But Black Men like Martin Luther King, Jr, Malcolm X, Medgar Evers, Fred Hampton et al, made commitments. It's those commitments that leave our community with PTSD . We don't give up we just fall back for a moment. Those who are with us - stay with us. So betrayal in this context is disingenuous. Yes most White women are loyal to the system of racism in this nation, but so are many if not most BLACK PEOPLE! If you look at more than just behavior but INTENT and DESIRE...you'll discover that the only difference is that they being White can blend in easier and get farther with White men than our people...most of whom WISH they were in that position! Now, from an emotional point of view, you're right. According to Greg...lol....the "hood talk" the questions are: You DOWN with us? Are you a REAL RIDER? Are you RIDE OR DIE? We want people to be loyal to us through thick and thin no matter what. However from a more coldly logical point of view..... Everyone in an alliance has to have something to bring to the table. White women who are NOT spies and agents but genuinely want to destroy the stranglehold that White males have on this society can bring their wealth as well as their nearest to White men to the table to be used as a benefit in this struggle. But as a White woman, what benefit do I have being loyal to people who have shown time and time again that they will fight to accomplish a goal but won't fight to keep it? Let alone have the economic, legal, and social power to protect me if I throw my lot in with them? With sucn a history of instability, it's hard to separate those who are "genuinely" (for lack of a better term) racist and those who are racist out of disappointment and a feeling of betrayal after formerly siding with us to go after the system. It's like a son who stands up for his abused mother only for her to embrace her abuser over and over again. This causes disappointment and confusion is his mind. Mel and Cynique I respect Fred Hampton as an intelligent and brave young man who stood up for and died for his beliefs, however I'm not in alignment WITH those beliefs. I believe he was slightly off the mark. He was a Black Panther and like many if not most Panthers he supported Marxist or Communist ideas that go contrary to the African way. He erroneously believed that racism was a by-product of Capitalism when in truth, it was the other way around. As was Communism.

A greater question is: How many Black people PERIOD are concerned about abortion. At the risk of sounding like our resident troll Gregory......I'm of the belief that most of our people (AfroAmericans) are so silly and politically informed that they probably have no idea of what the courts did on Friday and don't care. They are focused on trivial bullshit and petty beefs and arguments both online and off. Making it legal to ban abortion affects ALL WOMEN in the United States....regardless of race. However many of our people don't even pay attention to something unless there's a Black face attached to it to get their attention.

A few months ago I was having a conversation with an older White woman in her 70s and we were talking about the Civil Rights movement and why so many White women today voted for and supported Donald Trump and the Republican party and she said something that made a lot of sense. She said back in the 60s and 70s White women saw the Black Power movement as an opportunity to break the strangle-hold that White men had on the reigns of power in this country and they decided to link up with us and take advantage of that collapse to free themselves. But since then, the Black power movement has waned with integration and White men have slowly gained much of their power back....especially when Reagan got back in office. She said a lot of liberal and radical White women felt betrayed by the Civil Rights generation who decided to stop fighting "the man". She said that White women subconsciously know they can't rely on Black men to protect them from the power of White men so there's no real benefit in being strong allies with us politically or socially. Some people would have been insulted or puzzled by this....but I found it profoundly insightful and it explained a lot.....AND it made sense. There are a lot of people who WOULD like to side with AfroAmericans and help us out against racial abuse, but what benefit would it provide for them and who would come to their rescue when the White Establishment goes after THEM? Why do I bring this up now? Because I believe this abortion decision handed down by the courts is INDIRECTLY our fault. We (especially AfroAmerican men) are hands-down the most feared demographic in this nation. And when WE stand up and put our foot down on something....it get's done. Even when only a percentage of us decide to do it. All it takes is a decisive percentage of Black people to stand up and raise sand about something and we bring society to a halt and things get done. I've seen examples of this more times than you can count . So when Black people STOP fighting. STOP standing up for Progressive idealogy and turn to self-destruction, drug use, indifference, apathy, or just plain juvenile infighting and immature entertainment....it allows the right-wing in this nation to run wild. The election of Trump. The routine stealing of elections since 2000. And this latest abortion ruling is just SOME of the many examples.

Stefan When this incident first hit the news, I honestly believed Derek Chauvin killed George Floyd out of personal animosity. Because few humans would kneel on someone's neck for that long while ignoring pleas from the victim and outrage from onlookers. It had to be personal. Yeah, they knew eachother. Or atleast Derek knew George even if George didn't remember him. Another sign that it was personal was the way Derek constantly looked down and looked him in the eyes while he was choking him. Chauvin was known to approach females who wanted nothing to do with him and harass them. Apparently, Floyd would do his best to defend these females. See, I didn't know that part! I knew they worked at a night club together but this is the first time I heard that.

Stefan Actually what you said about Black people calling on an alien race to come down and save us isn't very far fetched. Infact, I believe that is one of the White Establishment's greatest fears. Which is why they are constantly scanning the horizon and worried about UFOs and other alien contacts. They don't want some alient race with much more powerful technology than they have to hook up with us and help us out. You can CALL on "Jesus" all you want. But if "Jesus" or anybody else strong enough to overturn this system actually ANSWERS that call and comes flying down from out of space.....they know it's curtains.

With the mental stimulation...it took a while...but I finally got it, lol. One of the biggest causes of midunderstanding between men and women is not being familiar with the basic mental hardwiring of the opposite sex. Men tend to be more VISUAL and get more turned on by physical attraction while women tend to be more EMOTIONAL and get turned on by words and ideas that stimulate their imagination. This is why so many men will get off looking at porn magazines (before the internet) while women get off reading "romance novels"

Greg I guess more rights for Blacks = More violent Blacks? I asked you a week ago what your solution was and you didn't really answer. It seems to me ONE of your solutions for solving the "violence among Blacks" problem is taking our rights away. Are we not capable,of taking care of ourselves???? Do blacks need to be taken care of by the white race and even hispanics? Well... What do you think of that idea? If Black people are so incompetent that they can't take care of themselves...wouldn't the RIGHT thing to do is CARE FOR and PROTECT them like you would any mentally disabled human being?

Kenneth Not only am I NOT "anti-abortion" but I'm FOR abortion in some cases, especially when the health/saftey of the mother is on the line. If they make abortion illegal in certain states, I think it's going to generate MORE poverty and instability in those respective Black communities. When you take away a woman's ability to abort a baby that she can't afford to take care of, you're going to state a snowball effect of all kinds of problems that will manifest themselves for years and years to come. This ruling will definitely have a negative impact on certain segments of the AfroAmerican community....if it is allowed to stand. Troy I wish the 'right-to-lifers" would be willing to exert the same energy and passion to preserving the lives of those who have actually been born. Support for quality universal health care would be a good start. 3 pointer from downtown! The weird thing about these so-called "pro lifers" is that they are often pro DEATH PENALTY and PRO WAR ! Stefan This is a woman's issue. Men need to stay out of it unless they can bring a fetus to full term. I agree that it's a woman's issue for the most part. But it takes a man to help make that baby. Seems like we can have SOME input since those affected will be OUR offspring too...lol

Stefan I don't call those people "Progressive" or even "Liberal". I think those are HONORABLE titles. They are definitely Left Wing but their agenda isn't progressive or even very liberal in my opinion but only serve to stir up confusion and generate more ammo for the Rightwing to use as propaganda. They come up with their goofball ideas that they KNOW won't work in real life and that most American people won't agree with....and then present them before the public only for them to be struck down and ridiculed by the Conservatives and used as evidence for how "looney the left is". TRUE PROGRESSIVES would have fought for and gotten us Universal Healthcare by now and wouldn't have allowed the recent decision on abortion to happen. Most White people who CALL themselves "Progressive" today have some sort of weird agenda they're promoting and they only join the movement to garner more support to push their personal interests. Greg Where are the black father’s !!! On the couch, tangled up with the white mothers making more mentally mixed up half-breeds like YOU...lol

Many "Illuminati conspiracy theorists" claim that most people who rise to fame either politically or in the entertainment industry not only have to take an oath to be loyal to some secret group but they are forced to engage in some sort of demeaning sexual activity that will be released to the public if they got out of line. What happened to Andrew Gillum lends more credibility to that seemingly INcredible claim. I think they're gonna go after our sister Stacey Abrams next. She's almost 50 years old and I've heard nothing about her ever having a husband or even a boyfriend. There's no telling what kind of revelation they have waiting in the wings to spring on the public about her. This is why we need to groom and promote our own leaders from the grassroots.

They say you shouldn't "feed the trolls" but exchanges with them often gives you an opportunity to get things off your chest. I remember that on some sites, if it weren't for the trolls...I wouldn't have ANYBODY to talk to because the regulars didn't care enough for my political and religious views to have a discussion with me. It's a damn shame when a racist White man will give you more respect and attention than your own people. But too often that's the case.

I think that's definitely the direction the Western world (especially the United States) is headed. Mel Women are even more divided and fractured in terms of special interests and agendas than the AfroAmerican community! Look at how 53% of White women voted for Donald Trump -an open and unapologetic sexist even when he was campaigning. As I was driving home Friday afternoon unaware of what happened........ I came across an intersection and on all 4 sides I saw dozens of women jumping up and down with signs in their hands yelling and shaking their fists about something and at the same time on the same sidewalks I saw a bunch of women in gowns who look like they were preparing for a wedding and they either ignored those women or were irritated by them not caring about the abortion issue at all.

Stefan While I understand what you're saying.......where is the PRECEDENT of Black folks seeking revenge and going "back and forth" with Whites on the violence tip? Seems to me that it's pretty much been ONE WAY.... Racist kill some Black folks. Black folks kill a LOT OF Black folk. Racists kill a few more Black folks Black folks kill a LOTE MORE Black folks.

ProfD Yeah, if the reports out of the Ukraine are true...and that's an IF....it appears that Vlad is going "off code" by slaughtering so many of his own fellow White brothers and sisters. Him doing that alone makes me think that he's down to use nukes against other White nations. They want him to get with the program....but he's not with the "program"...lol. I've heard reports that he's seriously ill and maybe he no longer has an incentive to stick to the script and code of White Racism.