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Does the Black populace in the United States of America today, 2026, need an organization like what Malcolm suggested, the OAAU? If brother Malcolm was still leading it.....we absolutely need one. What lessons would Malcolm learn from the Organization of African Unity that he didn't witness after his murder? Many lessons. Among them......... 1. How deep and fully law enforcement can infiltrate Black organizations. 2. How petty and jealous AfroAmericans can be with eachother, even when it comes to important issues and situations. 3. The need to properly vet his security.

Ofcourse it's not UP for discussion......lol. We all know why you haven't chosen to leave...."robust invite" or not. You don't want to leave because you have several "addictions" keeping you here. Addiction #1: FOOD Addiction #2: HOT WATER Addiction #3: ELECTRICITY Addiction #4: WI-FI Addiction #5: CLEAN UNDERWEAR It's easy to trash America when you're sitting in a cozy room sipping on warm apple cider and tapping away on your computer keyboard....lol. But if you had to LEAVE America and live in a third world country........ It's hard to keep your focus when the only thing you have to eat is a can of sardines, the lights and electricity keeps flickering on and off, and General Bar-B-Que and his boys are kicking in doors and popping caps all around the hood and the sounds keep getting closer and closer.....lol. "Tribes? Oh.....you have...ehhhh..... tribe? So do I. I am....ehh...zehhh....Chief of my tribe. They call me Chief....ehh....Bar-B-Que. I shall show you why!"

frankster Yes...Modern Evolutionary Theory and especially the use of the word evolution.. The Ancients would use the term "After its Kind" "After it's kind" implies things remain the same as they were after they first came into existence (in this Reality atleast). No change. Evolution....on the other hand...by definition implies continual change. We do not descend from apes is clear....so that comparison is false. I don't believe that we do, but that's what the Theory of Evolution implies. It can also be said....Whether true or not - That Europeans phenotypically have more traits in common with Apes and Neanderthal Elijah Muhammad taught that apes came from them. Not that they came from apes...but that apes came from them; trying to change themselves back into the Original Man. One can then further infer since Homo sapiens are the most evolved hominids.....and Africans are the purest Homo sapiens - then they must be the furthest from Apes I don't know about the "purest homo sapiens", however if the Theory of Evolution teaches that other races or especially the White race evolved from Africans.....that clearly implies that Africans are less evolved. There you go trying to "pigeon holing" individuals to your limited understanding. My admitted limited understanding is based on linear thinking (deductive reasoning) and common sense. If your theory teaches that Africans were the first humans AND that other races/ethnicities outside of Africa evolved FROM Africans....that clearly implies that African humans are not AS EVOLVED as those other races/ethnicities of humans. How else should that theory be interpreted? 🧐-Men are mature males. 🙆🏿‍♂️-Ok.... So boys are immature males? 🧐-NO NO NO...nobody said that. That's in insult to boys. To call them immature! 🤷🏿‍♂️-Ok... Well do men come FROM boys? 🧐-Yes Boys actually BECOME men after they have matured.

ProfD If Epstein and friends were hunting niggaz down and eating them like The Hunger Games, then we are already in it. It's traumatic to be forced to acknowledge a disturbing fact that you FEEL you can do nothing about, but I think denying or deluding ourselves about it will just make things worse in the long run. Like a woman who is so afraid of her abusive husband that she refuses to acknowledge his obvious cheating....lol. "But I'm soooo lucky to have such a nice and considerate husband. I mean.... His co-worker got kicked out of her apartment weeks ago and he was caring enough to invite her to come stay with us!"

It was almost humiliating, how easy it was for him to pull some of those women and get them back to his room. Some of them were ready to jump his bones the very same day he met them. I'm wondering how "easy" it would have been to get AfroAmerican women. I would like to think that our sistaz here are more "woke" than they are in Africa.

richardmurray But.....🤔 🤷🏿‍♂️ -Is this not a contradiction? If Haiti is the land for ALL Black people and being the land for "the blacks" it has given the nod to ALL Black people from around the world....that sounds to me like the invitation has been issued. Don't blame "my tribe" or Frederick Douglass because the street lights are on and you still don't want to go home...lol.

Looks to me like YOUR TRIBE needs YOUR OWN land. Any plans to get it?

Who said anything about being "friends"??? I simply gave you an offer to end the friction and unnecessary hostility. Instead, you took that olive branch and WEAPONIZED it. But I'll move on, 'cuz it looks like you're busy trying to pick a fight with somebody else right now.....lol.

This is nothing new to me. It's just confirming what I already knew as well as waking OTHER Black men up to what's been going on for a while now.

I think yall may be taking this "tribes" business a little too far....lol. richardmurray but what is important is that many black people have thought like you from the founding of the usa That's because there's always been INTELLIGENT Black people, from the founding of the USA...lol. and many black people have thought like me in opposition to you and yours, since the usa was founded. Well, that's because there's also been Black people who were NOT so......well....never mind....lol. the black experience in the usa is one of being terorrized abused, whether legally or illegally by whites. Have YOU been personally? Are you being, now? So, how black people in the usa, view the law is essential to how we see the usa, non blacks, or ourselves. True. Because I see myself and other AfroAmericans as valuable CITIZENS of this nation with power....limited ofcourse...to change the conditions IN this nation for our betterment and empowerment. It takes unity, intelligence, and a DESIRE to do so; however it can definitely be done. That would be more effective and beneficial to us than sitting packed together somewhere in a hot ass room cussing and crying about how hopeless and helpless you are and how you "don't belong" in the country you were born and raised in, lol.

I didn't know Black Marxist were even still a thing....lol. I know quite a few Black people on line and in real life who bash Capitalism, but none of them actually call themselves Marxists or fully embrace the ideology.

ProfD Good that you understand my point! Which is one of the reasons I'm no longer religious nor do I ascribe to dogma and so-called "scriptures". If you read what Chevdove was saying about this "evil world" collapsing and a "new kingdom" being established......I was hearing and reading about that since I was a kid. It has yet to happen.

You declined because you like drama and the attention.

ProfD I don't know WHAT Cynique was talking about. You were posting messages a day or 2 before she made the thread. It wasn't like you were gone for a week or a month....lol. Dang...... Any playa is entitled to a break from playing every ONCE in a while.....lol. People got business to 'tend to. But like Troy, if you DO go for an extended period of time your presence would be truly missed around here. However we're used to Troy dipping out for weeks at a time and so it doesn't hit as hard....lol. Besides being one of the few people who agree with me from time to time......lol...your wit, intelligence, and insight is invaluable. Play on playa. ✊🏿

Despite the different pictures, both stories are about the same man. Some Russian dude who went down into Kenya and Ghana picking up women and spreading diseases.

I won't bother telling YOU what you need to do to be worthy of my approval. ....because I know it's a standard you're not capable of achieving anyway, lol.

NOW you're starting to learn 😉 It might have took you 90 years or so, but you're getting there. Keep it up.

richarmurray Laws can't stop an illegal act directly, but it can INDIRECTLY by: 1. Establishing law enforcement officers who CAN directly stop illegal activity 2. Discourage illegal activity through deterrence 3. Change the prevailing attitudes of the current and especially succeeding generations by equating that which is illegal to being ethically and eventually morally "bad" One of the reasons many of the laws around the world don't change things is because they aren't ENFORCED. Ofcourse slavery will continue in a culture where it's illegal only on paper but not ENFORCED. Ofcourse human trafficking will continue in a culture where it's illegal only on paper but not ENFORCED Laws can definitely change the prevailing attitude and even morals and norms of a society when adequately ENFORCED.

And if we ARE dealing with theories....and not established facts.....then why not? Especially if one theory has just as much evidence to support it as the others.

frankster All Contracts are Agreements.....with binding consequences. An Agreement is mutual.....usually between two or more parties - each having their Role - duties and responsibilities. Failure by any party to execute its obligation will result in incongruity. ...makes sense. S/He has broken the Contractual agreement and is now suffering the consequence.....inability to distinguish between realities and behave appropriately. Hmmm..... I wouldn't say this is always the case with people who are schizophrenic. That's suggesting that they are suffering as punishment for some sort of sin or offense. For this to be the case, we'd need to know: 1. What exactly was the offense or sin they committed to meet such a fate? 2. Examine the lives of OTHERS who are guilty of the same offense or sin, and see if THEY are suffering the same punishment. Only then can we confirm that THIS is the reason they are suffering from hallucinations or delusions. Otherwise, we're just speculating and unfairly blaming the victim of an illness beyond their control. The article did not referred to him directly.... But you said: As I said colorism this the White men light skinned men they were referring to Lol... Why say it, if you didn't mean it? In reference to me saying: Chinese aren't White...but they are still seen as a different race than Nigerians. Eskimos aren't White....but they're still seen a a different race than Pakistanis. You said: Yes this is true to people who accept the idea of races according to modern day Western European definition Ok, and do those who DO NOT accept Western European definitions consider Chinese and Nigerians of the same race? Do those who DO NOT accept Western European racial definitions consider Eskimos and Pakistanis of the same race? Because if they still don't, what point are you making? No...These would be considered the same race by modern Western European standards The difference between both groups is as a result that some see themselves as Arabized Africans (ethnicity) and muslim(religion) while the other are Native African(ethnicity) christian or animist(Religion). But Sudan isn't Western Europe, they use DIFFERENT standards to determine race. In the system THEY use....Arabs and Black Africans are of different races. If race is a SOCIAL construct then you have to define it based on which SOCIETY it's being used in. You are the one who is trying to make all realities one and the same.. Again, I've asked you to please show me where I've said this. Says you.... But it is obvious that the unrestrained is more free than the restrained. The restrained aren't free AT ALL. You may believe they are true.....I do not I can produce evidence to support my beliefs, can you? Do YOU think that white people are trustworthy in general or only tell the truth all the time? Obviously I don't. Which is why I don't accept their religions and question their "science". Especially when it comes to scientific assertions that I can't easily prove or observe for myself. Their is the Human Race and Socio-political ideology of Races. Flavor and color is just the various Ethnicities. In some contexts, ethnicities ARE races. Race simply means category. Ethnicity is simply race based on culture rather than phenotype.

I'm sure 700 years ago back in some African village...... If you said that people with "pale skins and green eyes" will come and kidnap their children, take them across vast waters, kill them, and sometimes even eat them -THAT TOO would seem pretty ridiculous. A fairy tale only little children would believe. When I was a kid my Father....who was from down South....told me about lynching and how not only would they hang Black men but would cut their dick off. He was the first one I heard that from before reading it and seeing people talk about it on television, and it seemed almost unbelievable to my young ears. Nearly anything is possible. Especially if you understand it in context.

But do you agree or disagree with my statement? As a philosophical question, if you DID believe in THE SUPREME BEING....would you believe that BEING would Author and inspire books that confuse people, or make up books written in "codes" and "metaphors" and "symbols" that would be up to so much interpretation that nearly anybody could draw any type of conclusion they wanted from it? That sounds like something other HUMANS would do, not a Superior Being who could easily articulate exactly what They wanted to convey perfectly and directly.

It's hard to "prove" ancient history. Proof involves presenting evidence to support an assertion that convinces a target audience beyond reasonable doubt. This usually involves evidence that you can either experience or witness for yourself. Unless you have a time machine to actually take somebody back in time to experience or witness an event, it's hard to "prove" it beyond dispute. However the most popular alternatives to the Theory of Evolution is Creationism and Interplanetary Seeding.

Mel Actually I don't have any chattel slavery on my maternal side probably because of the "white' foremother. Well if YOUR mother was White, then that would be a pretty safe bet to make; but according to you that was your GREAT GREAT grandmother. I'm sure she wasn't the ONLY ancestor in your lineage....lol. If your mother was Black or anywhere near Black, then that would mean she had OTHER Black people in her lineage as well and some of them were highly likely descendants of Slavery even if they didn't come from the lineage of your White foremother. .. My paternal ancestors got their papers, land and were recorded in the first census in the late 1700 before slavery ended in America. Same thing. That was 300 years ago. Maybe THEY weren't slaves but somewhere between them and you those who WERE descendants of slavery mated into that lineage. ..It's kind of weird to see how both sides of the families avoided slavery or got their freemen papers Again, this was centuries ago. Unless they practiced incest mating where they only mated with fellow family members....it is highly likely that being in America they mated with Black people who WERE descended from Slavery. How else would you get the name "Hopkins"? Like John Hopkins University and Research center in Maryland.....lol. Infact, the Nation of Islam teaches that one of the first British slave traders was NAMED John Hopkins/Hawkins. but I think that's why I don't suffer from the trauma of enslavement Even if your ancestors weren't enslaved, they still suffered from the brutal, traumatic, and inhuman effects of Racism. Not just physically but emotionally and psychologically. Even after the horror of Chattel Slavery: -perhaps one of them was a victim of or a witness to a lynching. -perhaps one was a victim of job, housing, and educational discrimination. -perhaps one of them was a victim of medical experimentation -perhaps one of them was a victim of various other types of social and biological experiments carried out on AfroAmericans. ALL Black people living in the United States have experienced the trauma of Systemic Racism to various degrees, which is why ALL who live under this system deserve a FORM of Reparation. - but I think that's why I don't suffer from the trauma of enslavement - Still, I identify as Black although my ancestors were white, mulatto, black, indigenous or colored. Typical AfroAmerican lineage...lol. I think if folks start digging for their roots (I have, thanks to finding a cousin on my father's side) many would find they migrated to the Americas long before chattel slavery was a thing. Ofcourse. There were Black people in the Americas for CENTURIES before White people came here or brought us here. Infact one of the earliest founders of Pre-Mexican civilization were Black people called "Olmecs" We showed THEM how to get here...lol. There was a Black man named Pedro Nino....a descendant of Moors....who sailed with Columbus and helped him navigate his way over here. However despite this FACT, the other fact is that the majority of us DID come here by way of the Middle Passage in the great Ma'afa. A lot of FBA and Freedmen adherents use the fact that there were already Black people here in the Americas to totally dismiss the idea that Slavery even existed. But one fact doesn't negate the other.

richardmurray Second, detroit's percentage of the whole who are black is in the rare range. Most cities in the usa that have a certain total quantity, don't have anywhere near the percentage of black as detroit. There are several reasons for this. Among them: The Nation of Islam as we know it today was founded in Detroit. It was one of the earlier "woke" movements in the AfroAmerican community and this put Detroit on the radar of other progressive and militant Black people who came here looking for some action. Also Henry Ford openly recruited Black people to come to Detroit and fill factory jobs. He did this in part to break the strong hold the unions had on his business as well as the city in general. It was an earlier form of "cheap labor" before illegal immigration. Also unlike New York and even Chicago, Detroit has a lot of single family houses with front and back yards that Black people from down South are used to. They like the spacious living that you don't find in New York or Philly. From time to time I visited my relatives in Washington D.C. and New York and as we'd sit in the living room I could see heads bobbling up and down past the window and occasionally people looking in THROUGH it at us....LOL. This is because the houses were so close up to the sidewalk....lol. No front yard. I wouldn't want to live in a place were any nigga walking down the street can just reach in and GRAB my lady's ass if the window is open....lol. Those white counties about atlanta or D.C. make me think of Black Tulsa or Rosewood all the time. Wayne county that detroit sits in is anti black, but they tend to be more hands off with detroit overall. Apparently you don't know as much about the Detroit area as you THINK you do....lol. Detroit is not only Black but even many of it's SUBURBS are Black too, including those in Wayne and Oakland counties. Wayne county has over a half dozen other Black cities in it like Inkster, River Rouge, and Highland Park. Wayne county also has an AfroAmerican Sheriff and Prosecutor As far as New Orleans being it's own state. Not only is that highly unlikely but it's highly unadvisable. It's not big enough and doesn't have enough resources for statehood. I think what got Ray Nagin targeted was 2 things: 1. During Katrina in a moment of passionate anger he let the cat out of the bag and in the national media he openly accused the government of bringing drugs into the Black community. 2. Also on national television he said that New Orleans was "chocolate city" and as long as he's mayor would REMAIN chocolate city....lol. After those incidents....it was on, lol.