Pioneer1

ProfD This is not a situation that can be corrected. On an individual basis, it can. Black folks have always clowned each both behind closed doors and publicly. Anybody can get it. Granddad or big momma will spill the bizness at Thanksgiving dinner or a cookout and everyone will laugh. Doesn't matter. An example of how foolish and juvenile so many of our people are and have been for a long time. Why the families are broken. And why the violence rates are so high. "Yall see why we been together so long. It had to be his cooking cuz it SHO' wasn't the sex." Big momma couldn't keep her mouth shut and embarrassed granddad in front of everybody at the family get together and you wonder why he ended up cutting her down with a shotgun 5 days later while balloons and teddy bears pile up on the front porch. He made a decision to break the rules by f8cking a staffer. Somehow, he was f8cked outta the money. That doesn't make sense. Besides the fact that he worked for and earned that money..... 1. Those are what you call "moral clauses" in contracts, which in my opinion should be illegal because we supposedly live in a sexually "free" society and a who a person sleeps with should be THEIR business, not the business of the University. 2. White men constantly do what he was fired for doing. I know you'll say White men can get away with it. However that doesn't mean it's right or that he deserved to lose his job over it even if he should have known better. Knowing racism and how it operates doesn't absolve a person from being human and having human needs and desires. Nah bro...Moore brought this on himself when he decided to break the rules. Full stop. He was a human being. He did what human beings do. It's not righteous to establish rules of perfection then go after CERTAIN human beings for not being perfect. Again, he did what most heterosexual men do. He wasn't the problem...those rules were...and they shouldn't be there. It's a University, not a priesthood. Feel free to define the contextual parameters. That n8gglet was clowned because he was thinking with the wrong head. He did what MOST heterosexual men....who have access...are doing. Again, he wasn't joining the Catholic Priesthood and he didn't take a vow of celibacy. Moore will still have millions of dollars even his wife decides to divorce him. She probably won't...lol. As I said, we don't know what kind of arrangement him and wife probably already had. She probably ALLOWED for him to do that. She'll only leave if she doesn't see any more potential in him and getting a divorce would be a better BUSINESS option. I never indict everyone in the group of their dysfunction. Only those to whom it applies. They know. I know. But those who ARE going after the Somalis are; and using that as an excuse to toss all of them. I'm not the biggest fan of them myself because of how racist they are against AfroAmericans and the rest of Africans in general. Because of their features and hair, they tend to think they are superior to other Black people. However even with this madness....I can't side with the open racists against them and chant "go back home" because I know they'll be saying this to AfroAmericans and we're FROM the United States....lol. It's helpful to understand the context of their beliefs and why they may be in agreement. Trust me, I do. Most of them saying this are stupid (literally....of low intelligence) and that's why. They love Trump because he said something raw and racist and they find THAT ballzy and attractive; which is why a lot of Black folks actually support him even against their own best interests. He could say similar things about other BLACK AMERICANS and these same dumb ass niggaz will be on there eating popcorn with their eyes bucked grinning and clapping over it and celebrating. "Trump be tellin' it like it is! Hey yall...Trump on! Come and watch what Trump said!" Black folks do have the same energy for non-Black folks when they get caught out there. No sympathy for these deportations. How many videos have you seen by Black content creators going after Asians and Latinos with the same energy? Best thing to do is ask them to provide a forwarding address in order to keep in touch LOL 🤣 Moore's situation isn't a case of white folks taking him down. He set fire to his own house Maybe he started the fire, but they refused to put it out. Instead they waited for him to come outside and arrested him and charged him with arson while letting the house burn...lol. Moore won't be a bum. He'll be free to f8ck more snow bunnies as long as they don't work for the same team. Follow the rules. He should use the money he DOES have to hire himself a good lawyer and: 1. Make them give him his money and 2. Make them give him his job back and 3. Go after certain media publications for defaming him.

They won't. They'll probably become richer; since the System of Racism love to promote White men being with women of color. As long as they don't do what Naomi Osaka...the half Black half Asian....tennis player did; and hook up with a Black man....lol. She hasn't made headlines in years.

I don't think it's true love. I think it's something far more detrimental to the community...... I think she's using him as a "trophy" fiance/husband. This is far worse for the community.

That's my point. So as we go back to the behavior of some of our women in America and why so many of them are masculine acting compared with Black women from other parts of the planet, there must be some OTHER sort of explanation other than because they are "free" to act that way. Certainly Cynthia Erivo...who is British and of Nigerian descent is behaving in a masculine manner IN the West. But Nigerian women don't act like that in Nigeria.

Now check what she said..... She said she didn't have a BIG problem with it. Which implies that she still does have A problem with it....lol. That's like telling somebody I don't have a BIG problem with the food you cook...lol. I don't have a BIG problem with the way you look....lol. If didn't have a BIG problem with you not inviting me to the bar-b-que last year...lol.

Oh, so THIS was what set you off this morning and got your feathers all ruffled up....lol. I was wondering why it seemed as if you were a little more hostile than usual.

ProfD As I mentioned in the other thread, we should not condone stupidity and irresponsibility. I totally agree. However the correction should be done WITH IN THE FAMILY, not out in public. Only dysfunctional families air their dirty laundry. White folks make the rules. Of course they'll get away with breaking them. Black people have been known to as well, when they help cover each other. Not when you have niggas telling on eachother and laughing as they do it like Stephen from Django "Them two niggaz know eachother! Massa, they trying to play you fo' a FOOL! But we go get 'em though!" We don't have enough power to make the rules. However we DO have enough power and intelligence to USE them to our advantage. And we should. Moore had a positon of power as a head coach of a major college football team. That's it. Nothing else. It was enough power to get him wealth, fame, and the women of his choice. Maybe that's all he wanted, I'm not sure. But he was certainly enjoying and benefiting from what little power he had. Just goes to show he was not intelligent or powerful. I think he was intelligent, or he wouldn't have been able to get to that position in the first place. He just made several foolish decisions. Most intelligent people have made silly and foolish decisions from time to time, often based on emotions. Black folks have always clowned each other for doing dumb sh8t especially when getting caught. And when they clown on each other in public..... That type of behavior was stupid and counter-productive then....as it is today. Again, any criticism from our community on another Black person should be done BEHIND closed doors. Sherrone Moore f8cked up millions of dollars over some snow bunny snatch box Some say he fucked it up. In my opinion he was fucked OUT of the money he legitimately earned. It's not like he gambled it away or smoked it up in crack....it was TAKEN from him by White people. And again.... I'm not saying he didn't have a hand in it nor am I saying he didn't make stupid ass decisions. However let's not pretend that racism didn't have a hand in him losing his job and being headlined like he is. Clowning Moore's poor decision-making off the gridiron isn't about carrying favor with and/or pleasing racists or women. Black men give each other the bizness under certain circumstances. F8cking up a lot of money over women and simping are two such categories that will get a n8gglet clowned. It depends on the context. If he's being clowned in private and amongst other Black men....I agree. But to go on public platforms or on public channels like ESPN and clown on him and laugh at him and claim he got what he deserves and find joy in his humiliation...that goes too far. Either this is being done to please White racists OR too many Black man are just immature and stupid to the point that they don't know any better than to clown on one another in public for the entertainment of their open enemies. Black folks aren't siding with the racists against the Somalis and other scammers. 1. All and even most Somalis aren't scamming. 2. Some Black folks certainly are siding with the racists....openly. They are openly praising Trump's remarks about them being garbage and pieces of shit. As if his views are limited to ONLY Somalis...lol. Some of these niggaz are dumb as hell. They're being clowned for 1) believing they were exceptional and 2) denying their Blackness Well their timing is fucked up....lol. Somalis have BEEN feeling this way about Black folks, so where were they years ago? It's not until Trump starts bashing them than these niggas all of a sudden want to wake up and get on the Somali-Bashing band wagon? It's straight up self-hatred on display. Clowning Moore doesn't help the enemy. His intelligence may be questionable. Again, I think he's an intelligent young brutha but made a series of foolish decisions...little doubt about that. However when White folks take a Black man down...we don't really know how much HIS actions played in the matter and how much racism played.

ProfD While you're correct in your assessment of his choices AND I have to keep saying that he indeed made some bad and foolish choices, my point is: He wasn't free. We DON'T live in a free society. So he wasn't allowed to exercise or express his sexuality, even with those who voluntarily wanted to with him.

Sounds like you got an INVERTED thermometer system, to me. The lower the temperature....the higher it reads...lol.

Then he wasn't free. His behavior was restricted/limited.

What about Harry Brown, umbrarchist, and richardmurray? They ain't cool enough for you?

Troy How many guys are we talking about Pioneer, five, a dozen? To break it down..... The Black men I know and have known who got into relationships with foreign women and lived happier lives....based on what they've said AND what I've seen...are DOZENS. The Black men who actually took on the responsibility of raising children who are not even theirs along with these foreign women...are LESS than a dozen. The problem with your reasoning here is that this is just your personal experience, anecdotes. It’s not data. It's not a problem UNLESS we're doing scientific research. If we're just talking and having a discussion about an issue, why shouldn't personal experiences and anecdotes NOT count? I know you have very little way of verifying the truth of it one way or the other, however YOU are a Black man who've known other Black men. Are you saying you don't know of ANY Black men who's personal experiences align with the ones I've just related? ProfD Enjoy those African women as long as any cultural differences do not present hurdles. Many of those cultural differences are part of the fun. To be real... I'm not in relationships with most of these women. Infact, for many of them were are just acquaintances. But I enjoy their company regardless of the level of contact I experience with them. And truth be told, MOST Black American men love interacting with African women when they actually do. I see this happen on a routine basis. They'll talk shit all day long about them but as soon as a woman from Angola or Ethiopia smile at them and ask them for something...the nigga starts glowing and cheesing and the next thing I know he's following her around or somewhere leaning on a box with his leg propped up talking shit to her grinning...lol. Many African women use a ton of make-up and foundation to lighten themselves to appear less dark and look more European. This is true. And it often looks disgusting on them because of the discolorations caused by it. Many of them have dark rings around their eyes and mouths or discolored necks because of this. But it's not too much worse than AfroAmerican women who may not use skin bleaching anymore but not only straighten their hair but BLONDE is the new fashion among so many of our sistaz today. I saw a picture of Puffy's mother and she has her hair (or somebody's hair...lol) blonde and long almost all the way to the ground.

Troy Sorry, I thought that was obvious no, of course not. Lol...I thought my not being religious was just as obvious. Especially since I constantly say it. A ”little something?” Dude you said you read the book multiple times and parts of it in various languages that’s more than a little something. My reading the entire Bible came from a time when I actually WAS religious and wanted to determine for myself was it the actual "Word of God" as so many claim. When I read it now, I read it for historical and reference purposes. When I read the Bible in it's orignal Hebrew I get more accurate names for certain lands and peoples than from the translated versions like King James.

I don't participate on it but I've heard of "facebook jail" and other forms of discipline that social media platforms like facebook/meta and twitter/x dish out to those who break their policies. They even go as far as to permanently ban (ex-communicate) some people if the rules they violated were severe enough.

Is it really freedom when you are being poisoned chemically as well as indoctrinated to think and behave a certain way? Let's use the recent case of Sherrone Moore for example.... Was he free to have sex with whoever he wanted to? Or was he PUNISHED when it was discovered who he was having sex with?

Black men SHOULD have rallied around Sherrone Moore instead of lambasting him all over social media. Yes, he's responsible for his actions. No, if he actually committed the crimes he was accused of he shouldn't have done them. I'm not saying he made the best decisions. Some of them WERE foolish in my opinion. However a White man who did...and likely ARE doing...the same things wouldn't have gotten fired in the first place. Also, if a White man had committed those crimes....his image wouldn't have been smeared all over the media as an example for the world to see. However in this world, one of the BIGGEST crimes is powerlessness. Not being able to defend yourself physically or in the media against your enemies. Because no matter how much you're victimized....those who are smarter and more powerful will find a way to make YOU look like the "bad guy" and make themselves look like the "good guys". He did what many if not most heterosexual men do when they are in positions of power....USED it. Men have sex with women. That's what we do. Hate to break the hard news to some of you who may have thought otherwise, but that's the truth! Well.... What about him being married and cheating on his wife? What about him chasing White women around? What about inappropriate relationships with co-workers? Except for the last one....I wouldn't have engaged in either of those actions, personally. But just because I wouldn't do something personally or even think it's wrong, that doesn't mean I'm going to side with the enemy to take down or lambast an intelligent and successful brother who used his power and position to get pussy. That's what men have been doing for THOUSANDS if not MILLIONS of years. White men do it. Asian men do it. Arab men do it. Black men aren't and shouldn't be an exception. Since we KNOW this about our selves, why do so many of us side with White men or women of any race against our own? You're NOT going to please them by bashing another Black man for getting coochie. Do you think by trashing another Black man and calling him juvenile or undisciplined and pointing at him laughing and saying he got what he deserved is going to make White racists like you better? Do you think women will respect us more for doing that to another man? Oh, they may clap and cheer for you, because you're siding with THEM against another Black man. .....but will LOSE respect for you because it looks like you have no comradery or respect for your own demographic. I say the same thing about this situation as I do about the Somalis and how they're going after them. If we're going to stay out of it...then we need to stay out of it. But atleast don't HELP the damn enemy go after other Black folks. Even if they aren't going to defend him, at the very least Black men in the media and social media should atleast just keep their mouths shut on the situation and talk about something else. No need to help the enemy (racists) target and go after a successful intelligent Black man who made an unwise decision.

I think we may be overlooking the bigger picture..... Yes he's responsible for HIS actions. And if he actually did what he was accused of doing.....NO he shouldn't have committed those crimes. However the bigger picture is he was another Black man who is being used as an example by a racist system. The bigger picture...and bigger crime...is not being powerful enough to prevent what happened to him in the first place This is probably going to sound silly, but Black men SHOULD have rallied around him instead of lambasting him all over social media as they are doing. If you KNOW a person is a victim of racism, even if they had a hand in their victimization....you don't pile on and side with the enemy against them. It's like blaming a rape victim for the clothes she was wearing or the lifestyle she was living.

Apparently you got KICKED OUT of the "academy" a few years ago. Which explains why you eventually came BACK to AALBC after your lengthy hiatus....lol.

I bet you're an EXPERT at "self examination"....lol. Especially since you drove the last man away who used to take you shopping a few years ago.

also starring..... We all know and love her as Thelma Evans from Good Times "Ma, I'm confused about something? I THOUGHT I flushed it down the toilet! You ever heard of a TURD crawling out, growing legs, and walkin' around the ghetto???" And her lovely photos as Jet Beauty in 1975! Introducing..... BERNADETTE STANIS as BABY GIRL "Oooooh Big Mamma! You think you slick, with all them beehives 'n shit hangin' outside! But Dolemite go throw a FIT if he find out you been pushin' smack out of one of his Ho' Houses! Better hope he don't find out!" "He AIN'T go find out! Cuz ain't nobody go TELL him! Now git yo' nosy ass back upstairs and make yo' mamma some mo' money! 'Fo I put you back out on Central Avenue and make you work your way BACK up. Lil' jive ass nothin' ass ho!"

For somebody who doesn't care about me, you sure did use "you" a lot in this recent post. My previous post was much longer than yours and I think I only mentioned "you" once....lol.

The ground only shakes when YOU come dancing through....lol. "If she makes the ground shake like that dancing BARE FOOT! .....I'm bettin' a pair of high heels would probably break the RICHTER SCALE!" ....lol.

ProfD You wonder why I have a "soft spot" for Africans? One of the reasons I'm so attracted to African women is because they exude natural femininity and shut down the disgraceful myth of the "strong masculine Black woman" that America has so celebrated for nearly 50 years. Through out much of America's history, they only wanted White women to be the standard of delicacy and femininity. They pushed the masculine role on to the Black woman, and many in our community actually embraced this nonsense. But African women come to America and no matter what they've seen and been through back home, they STILL have light voices and are very feminine and act like women. White men see this and many of them try to snatch them up and marry them. I've seen so many White men actually get angry, offended, and even defensive with Black American men OVER African women! Many of them act as if African women are THEIR women and Black men should stay away from them! When a woman ACTS like a woman....she makes a man want to ACT like a man. Now some will say, "A man shouldn't need a woman to make him act like a man....he should just naturally act like one". While this is true, some men...many men...need to be primed or encouraged into doing so. Whether they "should" or "shouldn't need this is a discussion unto itself, but the fact is many do....and if that's what it takes to force a generation of young men to get off their lazy ass and stop smoking the weed and get busy building....then that's what it takes! Let's be glad there IS a solution to the problem and then apply it.

You're correct to say " in other words".....because those words are OTHER than my own...lol. I didn't say this. I made my position crystal clear.

1. How are they "getting away" with something THEY usually don't initiate nor do they usually enjoy personally. I understand that much of the sexual contact between White men and Black women aren't forced or rape. I'm saying that White men tend to like and enjoy the very act itself far more than Black women do, who are usually doing it out of some sort of economic gain. 2. You don't know WHAT kind of harm it's doing to the community short term or long term for so many Black women to freely have sexual relationships with White men under this system. Many Black women will CLAIM the man they're with loves her, but slowly he starts introducing all kinds of freakish sexual themes into the relationship that goes against everything she was raised to value...and she accepts it. Then he starts being racist and talking racists...first about OTHER Black folks....then to her ABOUT her....and she accepts that too. Behaviors like this are common among Black women who involve themselves into relationships with White men. They may start off nice, sweet, and respectful but devolve into something grotesque and demonic. It reminds me of that movie Monster's Ball where Halle Berry ends up having sex with the same White man who is responsible for the death of her husband and son! "Go ahead...I'm listening. What else did they do???"