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The very fact that a Pope or Prophet actually has a FUNERAL should make people...with intelligence...stop and think about what they believe. If your religious leader dies....especially under 100 years of age...what EVIDENCE is there that they were any closer to GOD than you or anybody else? The fact that the Pope has human "security" detail should also raise questions in the minds of....an intelligent....Catholic.

The old folks say it's "bad luck" to lay your hat on the table. ...or is it the bed???

frankster If that is what we are speaking about then every continent has wars... But that's not what we're speaking about. We're speaking about whether or not Africa is a continent of tolerance where differences are accepted and different ethnic groups get along amicably as you claim. Clearly...they do not. My Point is to refute your implications... And WHAT are my "implications"???? When it comes to violence and intolerance.....Africa historical is Fifth out of Seven - and currently Asia has more wars than Africa So? Does having LESS violence mean it's a place of peace and tolerance? Does killing LESS people than the next man means a person is NOT a killer? I can list Genocides that happen in other continents.... Africa is not the only Continent that experience Genocide. Ok? Again, because other continents experience this does that make Africa a continent of peace and tolerance? Because THAT'S the message you've been TRYING to convey for weeks now. There is fighting and killings going on in at least 5 or 6 of the 7 continents... Whats your point???? My point is that you're WRONG. Africa is NOT a place where differences are well tolerated and people get along with eachother amicably. I already know what?? Right now, you already know you've lost the argument so now you're trying to muddy it up and cause confusion...lol.

Troy did you miss the entire me too movement that was largely white boys getting caught up? Ok... And besides Harvey Weinstein...how many of them actually got locked up and did time like Puffy, Kelly, and Cosby? And they're trying to get Weinstein out as we speak. That "times up" and "me too" shit was brief, but this is ongoing. And not only have they went after Black celebrities but Black politicians as well. was a relatively common name when I was younger, so I’m sure there are a lot of Damita’s still running around. I don't know what goes on in the mind of a mother who'd name her child "dam" anything. Troy & ProfD Shannon, is probably a more common name and it is gender neutral like Tracy or Morgan. Shannon Sharpe is over 50 years old. Either his momma was ahead of her time or as @Troy mentioned, it's been a gender neutral name for a long time. Cory, Tracy, and Sean are more gender neutral...but Shannon isn't. Shannon is a straight up WOMAN'S name...and a WHITE woman at that, lol. You might as well name you son "Molly" or "Wendy" as far as that goes...lol. Sometimes I think these mothers REALLY wanted daughters and gave their sons those names out of some sort of longing for a girl. How else could you explain giving a whole boy a GIRL'S name? And the daddy probably wasn't around either because I don't know a lot of self respecting men who would even ALLOW their son to be named "Shannon". "Robin" is almost as bad....lol. Not QUITE as bad.....but almost. Robin Williams Robin Harris.

Troy Although I may be an outsider looking in, I do respect those organizations and understand the importance of them....including the Black ones. Outside of the social connections you tend to make through these different collegiate fraternities, the main reason is they want to know how well you can keep secrets and be loyal to an organization. That way when you graduate and enter adulthood they know they can trust you with more important things.

I can't. That's the issue. Some pictures I can post, but most including a screenshot of any size won't let me and I get this message: 1 file would exceed the total allowed size of 1.775kB, and was skipped At the bottom of the window we used to post messages it says: Max total size: 1.78 kB

Troy Yes. Up until this point about HALF of the jobs I've had have been either service industry or blue collar, including the one I'm on currently. The other half has been sales, which I would consider more white collar but it wasn't a firmly established white collar career like a marketing executive. The atmospheres between service industry, blue collar, and professional jobs are certainly different. The jokes we tell eachother are different. The cast of characters you work with are different. The gender and sexual dynamics are different. Even the race relations dynamic is different. But I'm curious as to what do you means SPEFICALLY????

I'm not sure but if you look at the bottom of the template window we use for posting messages it says Max total size: 1.78 kB ....atleast on mine. I routinely get messages telling me I can't post this picture or that picture because it's larger than 1.78 KB

I'm wondering how were you able to bypass @Troy's 1.78 KB size limit on posted images, lol. What's the trick to THAT????

What??? Who?? When did Mel drop some knowledge about an alliance between The Boule and Sororities? I'd like to read it. Did she PM you or something? She DOES have a Sorority Sista "vibe" to her; especially with her education and career....but she doesn't strike me as the type of person who would get into that type of discussion in a group setting with non-members. Right? @Mel Hopkins ??? She seems like somebody who not only knows how to keep a secret....but could make you forget what you even ASKED her, if you aren't careful. You start asking her about Sorority hazing rituals and she'll change the subject and start posting graphs and figures about domestic violence and alcohol consumption on college campuses, or some shit....lol.

Yall don't converse much even when both of you're on here posting at the same time...lol. I notice that.

While it's true women went into factories to replace the men who went off to WWII, the men came back in the mid-late 40s -long before the Women's Movement; yet they KEPT the women in those factories. Do you want to know why? When women started working in large numbers, management observed 2 major things about them: 1. They were more docile and put up with poor working conditions without complaining as much as men did 2. They didn't demand more and more money and other benefits for their labor the way men did. Women workers...by nature...are more caring and focused on KEEPING their jobs so that they can feed their children so they are less likely to place demands on their employer or get into conflict with them and risk losing their jobs. To this day, female workers are preferred in most jobs. And let's keep it real..... To a lesser extent, another reason women were preferred over men was because it supplied the men in management plenty of "easy access" pussy from their needy subordinates often willing to do anything to keep their jobs.

Actually WE started it for them.....lol To her credit....Kamala Harris DID try to use her "Divine Nine" connections to her advantage. She tried to... Skeeee Weeee ...her way into the Whitehouse, lol.

It's not just about Shannon though..... It's clearly part of a larger agenda. And why in the HELL would you name you son "Shannon"???? What kind of shit is that? What goes through the MINDS of some of these sistaz when they're naming their kids. Giving them EVIL names like "Darnel" and "Demonte" and GIRLISH names like "Cory" and "Shannon"....damn. I've met MORE than one sista named "Damita"....wtf....why would their mothers name them that????

Troy I'm surprised. I knew you had an engineering degree and had a career in academia; I thought you were part of an academic fraternity. What about a professional fraternity? Most doctors, lawyers, and many engineers are. Again, I'm interested in the deeper explanation. I'm still waiting on Cynique to BEG me so I can answer your question. Which you probably wouldn't believe anyway....lol. When it comes to a lot of Fraternal Orders, Black people often like to COPY what White folks do...without understanding WHY White folks do what they do. Like I said, many Black societies whether they're fraternities or masonic lodges will COPY what they see White fraternities and lodges do without understanding WHY those White fraternities and lodges practice those rituals in the first place or where they came from. Outside of helping eachother get good jobs (which I actually do respect).... Niggaz just running around with rings on their fingers, throwing expensive parties and picnics, and keeping secrets over nothing....lol.

Who's going to FIX these machines and robots when they break down? Lol...ever thought of THAT, genius????

I'm going to keep it real with you and say (type...lol) something that you may find a bit shocking, even from me..... I DON'T GIVE A DAMN if he's guilty of innocent. I seriously don't. I haven't followed the story much either and don't care to because I don't want these fucking demons legitimizing their lynchings. Men screw women. That's what men do and we've been doing it SINCE humanity. I don't condone rape or sexual assault period, but I can't trust what these devils say. Even if Shannon came on and APOLOGIZED for doing....whatever they claimed he did...I'm STILL not going to believe it. I'll say he's just a CLONE talking or maybe they PAID him or THREATENED him to admit it. I'm serious, I'm not going along with this crap. It's getting out of hand with the "going after Black men for having sex" with women. No Asian men getting caught up. No Arab men getting caught up. How many Latino men are getting caught up??? But every day you got some brutha with his picture on the screen. I don't care WHAT they accused my brutha of...I'm not going to believe them. They charged Elijah Muhammad and Martin Luther King of sexual infidelity and guess what? ....I don't believe THAT either! I did entertain it slightly at one time, but not anymore. Both of those men are INNOCENT as far as I'm concerned. I don't give a damn how much "evidence" they present I won't believe it because of WHO the "evidence" is coming from -Satan. We talked about the LGBT community in the other thread. Notice how you don't hear headlines about Black men being sued or arrested for sexual activities with MEN of any race? So it's alright for a Black man to have sex as long as it's GAY sex, according to some in this society. They'll leave him alone then.

Especially in the lower western Midwest and the Pacific Northwest. We should be aiming for the same thing for ourselves in the South. Especially in states like Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, and the Carolinas. There is no way Republicans should be controlling Georgia....with Atlanta in the midst of it. I'm talking Governor, Senators, State Legislators, U.S. Reps, Mayors, Sheriffs, etc.... Black folks should control ALL of Georgia....and all of Mississippi and Alabama to be honest. That should have BEEN ours...solidly for the past 40 years or so.

Christianity, Islam, Hinduism..... I'm not religious and I think religions are man made anyway. However our people should be aware that the Caucasian Arabs were making slaves out of Black people long before the Caucasian Europeans were. Troy & ProfD Prof D some of your commentary here on these forums comes across similar to what Maher says particularly when you talking about the alphabet community Like ProfD, I was little surprised at this accusation myself...lol. I haven't heard him say anything that was homophobic or even anti-trans. Now ProfD HAS...like myself...said things that one MAY consider as chauvinistic. And I'm sure that he...also like myself...is unapologetic for those views, lol. I personally can be chauvinistic and liberally egalitarian at the same time by understanding both points of view and being honest with myself about what I really like regardless as to whether it's "right" or "wrong".

Sillyque Cynique The only legitimate contribution Piognat could've made in his attempt to enlighten, was to point out that I spelled W.E.B. DuBois' name wrong. But he's too ignorant to know that D-u-B-o-s-e was the wrong spelling. This is because I didn't care. I'm not as petty as you are....lol. No sexism...but that's some petty feminine shit. Expect that one if you get into it with another female....not me. but I'm not keen to discuss the secret rituals of Greek organizations on a public forum. "Secret" my ass... The term "crossing the burning sands" and most of what we've discussed already is pretty common knowledge that can be found all over the internet. The ORIGIN of that term isn't, but the term itself is. You don't know what the REAL secrets are because you dropped out of college ( to sell "stuff" out of the local post office, maybe????) before you got high enough to learn more...lol And his failed attempt to "school me" by babbling a lot of drivel was a glaring example of him not knowing what the hell he's talking about inasmuch as his whole premise was based on his WRONG ASSUMPTION about what I "seemed to think". But THIS is from a person who THOUGHT that the Boule was: 1. An organization of both males and females 2. Merely the collective of Black college Fraternities and Sororities. ....until I educated yo' ass, lol. Now...in your own words...you can't resist...lol. Check it: exercised my will power to resist the temptation to get the last word Yeah... Everybody can see this isn't the ONLY thing you're exercising your will power to "resist the temptation of"...lol. People, Look at her choice of words: I also refuse to allow Piognat to draw me into a conversation where he "controls the narrative". She didn't say she wouldn't allow me to draw her into a conversation! She just doesn't want ME to control the narrative. She doesn't mind being "draw in" as long as SHE gets to sit in the driver's seat once she's in! Oh boy..... Foolin' NOBODY but yourself....lol. Troy I thought it was a pretty straightforward metaphor meaning going through the pledge and eventually crossing. If there is some deeper, meaning, please do share it. I will...if Cynique BEGS me to do so...lol. Other than that, suffice it to say that the "Black Greeks" (how silly of a term...lol) got it from the White Fraternities who got it from other older White secret societies. But there is a definite origin and meaning to this saying. @aka Contrarian you are one of a kind LOL! She certainly is. But a kind of WHAT?????

I don't like what's been going on lately with these famous/wealthy Black men being hemmed up for fucking with White women. This is the REAL "high tech lynching" that Uncle-Tom Thomas complained about years ago. Do we see what's going on here??? On ONE end, they are trying to encourage Black women to get into sexual relationships with White men. And on the OTHER end, they're trying to intimidate Black men (with the threat of financial ruin or legal problems) to "stay away" from White women. That's why I Iike what ProfD said about learning how to "fight back". Already on the internet you have some silly sell-outs talking about: "See! That's what they GIT for messing dem white womenz!!!" They're putting the blame on BLACK MEN for doing what MEN do...which is screw women (regardless of race)....instead of seeing thist as targeted racism and an attempt to scare Black men away from White women and box them into a corner of social isolation. We can't let that shit happen. We can't let them take the society back 200 years where White dudes could go around snatching up and fucking any Black woman they see but if a Black man just LOOKED at a White woman longer than 1 minute....they're already tying nooses. We need all Black attorneys on deck and as many Black men in law enforcement to deal with this shit before it gets anywhere NEAR approaching that level.

Not if a Black man is able to get the same thing and move NEXT to him....lol. He'll dust off that MAGA hat quicker than a duck can shake his ass. At some point the nation will have to be re-divided because these rednecks aren't going to want to see an America where Black people are treated fairly and properly even if THEY stand to benefit too. That's the REAL reason the United States hasn't progressed nearly as far as they should have. Racist Caucasians (and other groups) don't want to advance America if it means AfroAmericans will advance with it. They're like a jealous and hateful Ex. It's not enough for you two to go your own separate ways so that THEY can find someone and enjoy a healthy relationship and YOU can too. No. That doesn't bring THEM peace. Seeing YOU alone or in an unhappy relationship is the only thing that will satisfy them...lol. They don't want to see you doing as good as them. What kind of "supremacy" allows my subordinates to enjoy the same lifestyle I do???

frankster There is more in Asia Jeffrey Dahmer was a serial killer, but Ted Bundy killed MORE. They're BOTH serial killers, so what's YOUR point???? You want to run around the place maligning black and giving everybody else a pass and excuse If that's what I WANTED to do, I could have brought up the 1994 genocide in Rwanda and that would have shut you up and ended the discussion. They are ranked no. 6th out of 7 continents in terms of wars Australia is mostly White though...lol. Are you telling me these gruffy White folks who are descended from English criminals are less warlike than Africans??? SAY it ain't so...lol. Historically it is....bring your facts and or links "Historically" my ass...we're talking about the here and now. Where is your evidence? Oh, you need "evidence" that there is fighting and killing going on in Africa? Ok: In theory....what about in real life You already know, which is why I drew that distinction.

That part right there......

ProfD Well you already know how I feel about the Democrat Party. We need a NEW Party specifically for the needs of AfroAmericans but not much of a chance of THAT happening in the next few years SO........ Democrats need to figure out where their HEART is and focus on just a hand full of KEY ISSUES that the majority of the people can rally around instead of pushing this "big tent" narrative they've been doing for the past 40 years or so. You can't be the party of EVERY-fucking-BODY. Some of these weird ass people are going to have to be kicked to the curb. Issues like: AfroAmerican rights and Reparations. Women's rights. Worker's rights Universal Healthcare Robust social benefits Improving the Economy Those 6 items right there could be and should be the main focus of the Democrat party and if they MADE those their main focus....I'd say about 60-65% of the American people would immediately get on board with that because each of them address SOMETHING most Americans are concerned with. But they're going to have to drop all this "trans" shit and this unwavering support for Zelensky and Ukraine. Those are NOT issues most people are discussing at the kitchen table or in the living room.