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It's not hypocrisy....it's simply a clear Double Standard. It's far more dangerous to themselves and the community for Black women to go around hopping in the bed with White men, than for Black men to do it with White women.

How about this: Social Media IS a Religion Neely Fuller Jr. said that a "religion" is a strong belief backed up by action. Religion isn't necessarily what you CALL yourself or were born into. It's what you believe strongly AND do on a routine and regular basis. Many Italians may claim to be Catholic by the Mafia is their religion. Many Arabs may claim Islam but fighting and making war is their religion. Many people may claim to be Christian but racism is their religion. Likewise.... If you spend over 80% of your waking life on social media either publishing or watching and feel depressed when you don't have access to it, social media IS your religion.

....cuz you can't read.

I don't want a society where women are second class citizens or not even considered citizens at all and are subordinate to men. I actually want a society where men and women are equal in rights, however the women are so feminine that they NATURALLY are less aggressive and less assertive than men so there is no need or desire for most men to try to "force" this on them. If you have to FORCE this on somebody, that means it's often unnatural for them to do.

aka Contrarian Watta crock. The only people masculinizing black women are triflin' black men who have forced them to play the "father" role for the children they make and desert. Was Cynthia knocked up by a triflin' Black man and abandoned? Was SHE forced to play "father" for a bunch of little kids? There are women in middle east and Afghanistan who grew up seeing all of the men of their village slaughtered. There are MILLIONS of women in the Middle East, Asia, and Africa who have had to raise children without a man in the home but they still retain their femininity. You don't see them walking around showing off their muscles. You don't see them getting tattoos all over their bodies. You don't see their voices getting deeper or them acting more aggressive or violent. Something is being done to the women HERE that is making them clearly more masculine than the women of other countries or cultures. Maybe the question is what is it about SOME women in America that is so unattractive and repulsive that would make a man want to leave them AND even any children they had with them, rather than do the instinctive thing and stay around.

One of our rather more outspoken....lol...contributors, said in another discussion: "The only people masculinizing black women are triflin' black men who have forced them to play the "father" role for the children they make and desert." While that may SEEM to be a valid point on it's surface, I can't help but notice something when I meet women from other cultures............. I've seen women from the Middle East and Afghanistan who grew up seeing all of the men of their village slaughtered, sometimes in front of them. Very traumatic. Yet these women still have kept their femininity. There are MILLIONS of women in the Middle East, Asia, and Africa who have had to raise children without a man in the home but they still retain their femininity. -Yet you don't see them walking around showing off their muscles. -You don't see them getting tattoos all over their bodies. -Their voices aren't deeper. -You don't see videos of them balling up their fists and fighting at hamburger joints and family picnics or outside of gas stations. -They aren't "turning" Lesbian and claiming they gave up on men. No matter what they've gone through they still retain and maintain their femininity. Which tells me that something is being done to the women HERE that is clearly making many of them more masculine than the women of other countries or cultures. You can look at a lot of the little girls in school and how much they love fighting and talk about fighting to realize something is disturbingly wrong. I don't recall girls fighting this much at school or on the street when I was a kid. For decades we've talked about dead beat dads and why so many men have walked off from their own children and avoided their responsibilities. In the vast majority of the cases I personally know of....it wasn't the children or being forced to take care of them that was the problem; it was the baby mammas and the inability to get along with THEM that was the issue. Not saying the mothers were at fault for him abandoning her. I'm saying THEY COULDN'T GET ALONG...regardless as to WHO was at fault. So it wasn't the children, it was them being incompatible. Now, on the flip side of that..... I know more than a few Black men who had children by MULTIPLE American women and abandoned them and have little to do with their own children, yet got themselves foreign wives from other countries and not only stuck with those wives but had children with them and either raised or are raising those children! I'm not talking about mail order brides! I'm talking about women they said they met at school, at work, or on the street! In a few cases, some these same brothers met foreign women WITH children who were not their own! And married these women and helped them raised these children! I'm going to say (type....lol) that again: Some of the SAME Black men who had children by multiple women and abandoned THOSE women and children, actually met women from other countries WITH children and took on the responsibility not only of marriage but raising THOSE children as their own! So perhaps the question would have to be.... What is it about SOME of our women here in America that is so frustrating or repulsive that a man would rather get with women from outside his own culture and raise HER children, rather than stick with the women of his own culture and raise his own children?

I don't know what kind of relationship he had with his White wife. They may have had an "open" relationship where she knew and allowed for him to cheat, I don't know one way or the other. It's not a matter of empathizing with or having sympathy for him, it's about the double standard that this society in general has for powerful Black men and powerful White men. If this Black man was married to a Black woman and cheated on her with a Black woman who worked there, the University probably would have never fired him. Even if he had broke into the woman's house later and threatened to kill her or himself with a knife, it probably would have barely made headlines. But the firing AND the publicity is done strategically to "scare" Black men away from sexual relationships with White women by publicly humiliating him. I won't call it a lynching but I will call it a public humiliation done for racist puposes.

aka Contrarian Oh...... Did he fire himself from the University? Did he arrest and lock himself up? Did he volunteer for his pictures and this story to make headlines across the nation? Right or wrong, he was a heterosexual man BEING/ACTING like a heterosexual man. The only part he did wrong...IMO...was showing up at that girl's house and threatening her.

How about this: Social Media IS a Religion Neely Fuller Jr. said that a "religion" is a strong belief backed up by action. Religion isn't necessarily what you CALL yourself or were born into. It's what you believe strongly AND do on a routine and regular basis. Many Italians may claim to be Catholic by the Mafia is their religion. Many Arabs may claim Islam but fighting and making war is their religion. Many people may claim to be Christian but racism is their religion. Likewise.... If you spend over 80% of your waking life on social media either publishing or watching and feel depressed when you don't have access to it, social media IS your religion.

ProfD .....and I wonder why? Troy How can you...as heterosexual Black man who is old enough and intelligent enough to SEE the generational shift and what's going on...say this is pretty much nothing? It's clear and obvious that they are pushing masculinity on our women and encouraging them to be that way or atleast trying to portray Black women as being more masculine. When was the last time you saw an Arab or Indian woman portrayed like that on the cover of any magazine? Asian women are among the most numerous women on the planet, so surely they could have found plenty of Asian women to put on the cover of those magazines. But no... These White publications dug through the pile until they found EXACTLY who they wanted to portray in that manner -a Black woman.

Troy You still haven't answer MY question..lol....do YOU believe these things happened? I asked you weeks ago are you an agnostic, and you have yet to answer that either. I read the Bible as well as other religious books for reference purposes as well as to make conversation and relatability. I can relate to people of other cultures and religions more when I know a little something about what THEY believe, even if I don't believe it myself.

Troy Now that you mention it, I have heard this before. John Oliver did a segment on it with news anchors, saying it and complained. They didn’t know what it meant.. You explained what it meant, but I still don’t get it. Me neither. I did a little research on it but I think it's pretty much meaningless. Some sort of "generational" thing where a lot of younger people are just going around repeating memes they get from each other TRYING to be or sound "cool". in fact, in the photo that you just shared, the white boy looks younger as she does do you know their respective ages? I would not be surprised if he’s actually younger. According to reports online this Andrea Preti dude IS younger than her at 37 (she's 45). I'm not sure how you can tell that big of an age difference simply by looking at those pictures. I don't know a lot of 45 year old women in every day society who look like Venus either in the face or in the body...lol. do you look at successful black men who have married white women and want to find you a white woman because that’s what they did? No, but you can't compare the two. Most Black men and most males in general tend to be LESS influenced by the media than women. They ARE influenced to some degree, but must less than women are. There are some things that women find universally attractive in men regardless of race, nationality, or culture like wealth, strength, etc.....but much of what most women find attractive seems to be heavily influenced by the society they grew up in with heavy influences by their peers, by their family, and by the media both mainstream, online, and social media. Take Asian women for example..... For centuries if not thousands of years Asian women in the far East had never even SEEN a Black man and many of them thought Black men were animals with tails based on what White men told them. But just a few generations ago many Black men eventually had Asian wives, girlfriends, and lovers from Korea, Japan, and the Philippines. Why? Because they got to know a lot of Black men when they went over to these nations as soldiers and occupied their lands. In many cases the women fell in love with these men.

Are you happy to see this Black man humiliated before the national public?

This is just another distraction. Just like the Epstein files. Something for the mainstream media to focus on knowing damn well they aren't going to do anything regardless as to how much wrong doing has been found, instead of focusing on the REAL crimes these politicians are committing. So what if those boats were blown up or seized illegally? Then what? We know nobody is going to be thrown out of office or go to jail over it. It's just something for the media to focus the people's attention on like a soap opera...lol.

I hope she runs and I hope she wins! She's not only beautiful but very intelligence and professional. She's also tough and a fighter. Something I don't necessarily find attractive in a woman, but it's good for her personally and good for the people she represents.

Recently British/Nigerian actress Cynthia Erivo has been featured on the cover of several magazines. Among them are GQ...a MEN'S magazine where she was featured among the "men of the year". Another is Harper's Bazaar where she's featured in photos with her muscles and tattoos on prominent display. For those of you who think this is some innocent or harmless work of art. Remember that Neely Fuller Jr. has been warning us for DECADES of the plans by the Racists to not just feminize Black men but also MASCULINIZE Black women!

Apparently not profound enough for you to tag with a heart or trophy, lol. .....like I do YOUR posts from time to time.

Eddie Murphy and Chris Rock made TENS of MILLIONS of dollars standing on stage cussing. Their vocabulary was far from limited and they are loved around the world for their wit and entertainment. The same can be said for many Rappers. There's a time and place for everything. Cussing may not be appropriate in one setting while totally acceptable in another. I think KNOWING when and where cussing is appropriate reflects the caliber of a person more than whether or not they do it at all.

"Listen suga.... Ever when you wanna get out the sex industry, just let me know...hear? I'll talk to Dolemita on yo' behalf and work something out. I been knowing her since her Post Office days when we used to work the back-rooms together. Holding envelopes up to them old light bulbs so we could see what was inside of 'em!"

Why are you asking me these things when you know I'm not religious, lol. Do YOU believe in them?

also starring...... ...you remember him as Antoine from Men On Film "Don't get it twisted honey! Just 'cuz a man might juggle balls..... Don't mean he go be somebody's clown!" introducing DAVID ALAN GRIER as Apostle Reverend Bishop Willie Wilson of the Greater Mt.Zion Missionary Baptist Church Of Central Avenue "Some folks get rich sellin' dope. I makes mah money sellin' hope!"

Troy I’m just not sure how much they are influenced by two middle-aged women and their run of the mill looking white boy mates. When people see the Williams sisters, they don't think of "middle aged" because they don't look it nor do they behave like it. On television and in pictures atleast....they look about as young as they did when they were in their 20s. So most young women can relate to them. Also, celebrities tend to be looked up to by all generations in all stages of their lives, including old age because many people live their lives THROUGH their favorite celebrities. They are like a catharsis. The Williams sisters are what many Black women hold as the idea of success, so who they these "successful" sistas CHOOSE to spend their lives with will strongly influence others to do the same. The message is: "If you want to be successful and happy or STAY successful and happy.... find a White man to share you life with"

Well..... Personally, I like her latest name: Dolemita It seems even more fitting of her personality than either Cynique OR aka Contrarian. Cynique sounds kinda "sneaky", and aka Contrarian sounds too much like "librarian" But Dolemita.......now that HITS. When you hear the word "Dolemita"....you can mind picture a big fist with gold rings on it coming through the screen coming right at you!

ProfD No matter how f8cked my brotha or sista may be, nobody has a right to mistreat him or her...not even me. I agree that they shouldn't be MIS-treated. To MIS-treat someone is to treat them in a way they don't deserve. Treating a violent thief and dope addict with respect is MIS-treatment. They should be avoided. We know the conditions that led to our dysfunction. Gotta get the right medication to fix it. Some of these niggaz weren't LED to dysfunction, some of them were BORN dysfunctional. A result of the drugs their parents were using while conceiving them as well as the vaccines and other toxins in the environment. The same can be said of many Africans. The racists have been putting shit in the environment to fuck many of our people up and you see the dysfunction on BOTH sides. Neither side should let the most dysfunctional elements of the community represent them. Leave them alone if they're not worth being around. Just don't pass judgment or throw shade at them either. No contact. That's what most Africans do, but some of these niggaz STILL talk shit about THAT....lol. They talk about Africans like dogs....then turn around and complain about how Africans don't want to live around them or work around them or go to school with them, lol. Damn The bigger problem is wanting to be liked. Mutual attraction still works. Supposedly, there's somebody for everybody. That's just human nature. Everybody wants to be loved and liked by SOMEBODY. You don't care if some people like you or not, but there are certain people you are very attracted to for one reason or another and WANT them to like you. Me.... As I said, I'm a Pan-Africanist and I love Black people as a group unconditionally and ofcourse I would like that love reciprocated. Eskimos....I don't care. Siberians....I don't care. am*zon Indians....maybe...lol. Who taught Black folks to h8te themselves? The same people who are sitting back eating popcorn and smirking at how AfroAmericans and Somalis are trading licks online. They are patting themselves on the back for a job well done. Their socialist system makes other countries look/feel bad. I don't know much about Venezuela or how well the country is doing. Can't exercise power without missions, plans, objectives and goals. Correct. And you can't have missions, plans, objectives, and goals without a decent working brain and the intelligence to formulate them. Goes right back to the INTELLIGENCE factor I often speak of. We have a certain amount of financial power but we're not perceived as a threat capable of violence. Nor should we have to be. Look at the Koreans, Indians, and Pakistanis in the United States. They aren't seen as a threat capable of violence but they have a lot of financial power and are doing quite well as groups. You don't need to be "threatening" to be successful in White America. We cannot let a few good experiences enjoyed by a handful of people lead to invitations to cookouts and BBQs The question is...does the good experiences out weigh or out number the bad experiences? And again, it boils down to the individual. I personally have had good experiences with Africans and when they get to know me they don't avoid me. On the other hand, I know a lot of Black folks who don't get along with them and neither one can stand the other. But these Black Americans also smoke a lot of weed and many of them did long years in prison and engage in criminal activity and usually talk crazy around Africans and everybody else they come into contact with. You can't let how Africans treat THEM determine how they'll treat YOU or another Black America not engaging in the same lifestyle. I don't even hang around THEM kind of niggaz, so I don't blame the African for not wanting to either. Whoever brainwashed them needs to fix it. Lol....why would they want to fix a problem they CAUSED in the first place? As far as they're concerned it IS fixed. They brainwashed them to fear and avoid AfroAmericans. That was their intention, so ofcourse they don't want to undo what they did. They have a vested interest in keeping the tension and hate going. Divide and conquer FBA/AfroAmericans need to leave those capes in the closet. When was the last time they had them out? The last time they even TRIED a cape on to fly to the defense of other Black folks was back in the 1960s with the Civil Rights Bill. Today if you pulled that cape out it probably has more holes in it than swiss cheese from all moths feasting on it....lol Them capes probably don't even fit some of these fat out of shape descendants of the older generation of freedom fighters who originally wore them! Many of the young people of this generation ain't helped nobody out, including other AfroAmericans. I told you, they'll talk about Africans but if Africans aren't around they'll talk about and clown on eachother too! Many of them ain't gonna cape for Africans OR Haitians OR YOU EITHER if you need it because they're selfish and inconsiderate! Who are they helping, laying on the couch smoking weed and talking shit online from some janky ass cell phone. Let everyone hold their own. Once we've gotten the smaller tribes together, maybe one day we can have one Big Black Beautiful Bill. Good luck waiting....lol.

ProfD Asians and Latinos serve a purpose to FBA/AfroAmericans from fast food and beauty products to a non-existent Black/Brown alliance and s8xual access.🤣 Africans and West Indians have mostly showed contempt for FBA/AfroAmericans from avoidance to outright disrespect. Don't know how often you've heard Africans and West Indians throw shade and talk real greasy about FBA/AfroAmericans. Online....I've read it a lot and heard it quite a bit. I real life, not so much so. I've pretty much seen them just keep away from a lot of our people. But honestly, most Africans have always been respectful and friendly to me personally. I've ate at African restaurants, Africans have invited me over to their house, to their events. It doesn't happen on a routine basis....but through out my life it has happened frequently. Some of these American niggaz...I'll be real with you bro....they're so foul they can make a damn BRICK cry, lol. You can't always go by how badly Africans or even White folks treat SOME of our people, because of how fucked up THEY are. A lot of our people are so dysfunctional they can't even get along with eachother. Foul and fucked up attitude. How can we get mad at others for not wanting to be around them or feeling some sort of way about them? How can we expect others to just love and embrace us with the attitude some of our people have? For a very long time, I've been of the belief that FBA/AfroAmericans should have no contact with other groups of people that do not want to be bothered with us for whatever reason. Everybody is different. Me personally, if a person didn't like me I usually wanted to know WHY. Whether it was an individual or a group, I always wanted to know WHY...even if I felt it was unjust or couldn't do much about it, I wanted to know WHY a person felt they did. A lot of our people could care less as to why or reason. The problem is, whatever is causing ONE person not to like you may also cause OTHER people not to like you. As I said before, many of our people can't even stand EACHOTHER and don't want to be around EACHOTHER. Some of them are so dysfunctional and fucked up and that stench is enough to turn the boogy man himself away...lol. We have all of the flavor that everybody else wants to emulate. Unfortunately, FBA/AfroAmericans haven't done a great job of commodifying and gatekeeping our natural resources...talent and abilities. That's true. However like what I used to see when I was a kid....... A lot of niggaz are quick to teach White folks and Latinos our styles and dance moves, but then want to clown on the Africans and other Black folks for it. That's that self-hatred. When Whites emulate us....we feel honored, but when another Black person does it we say: Nigga...stop bitin' and get off my jock! You have written that several times across various threads. For whatever, you believe FBA/AfroAmericans have power and authority that we really do not have without it being sanctioned by white folks. Real power and authority usually has to be taken by force. The enemy doesn't give it anyway. Authority yes. However real power isn't taken because if you are strong enough to take power from another then that means you were MORE POWERFUL than them to begin with. We have a substantial amount of power as AfroAmericans already, we just aren't using it. We have enough power to do do far more than what we're doing right now. Run up on a Black man you know and take something from him and find out how powerless he is to find you and get it back...lol. Say the wrong thing to a Black woman you work with and find out how powerless she is...lol. We HAVE power, it's how we CHOOSE TO USE that power is the issue. I don't feel that FBA/AfroAmericans should be compelled or obligated to speak one way or another on behalf of immigrants. They have never helped us. Let them hold their own nuts.😎 I can't speak for our people as a group, but individually....some immigrants have helped me in what Neely Fuller Jr. would call areas of people activity. Including labor, entertainment, and sex...lol. There are a lot of other AfroAmericans who have been helped by different immigrants...including Africans...in various ways. We can't let dusty ass no good niggaz and THEIR bad experiences with or avoidance by immigrants affect how we get along with them. I know many of them have been brainwashed to hate and mistrust AfroAmericans, but that like Lauryn Hill said...that hypnosis can be reversed. But it will take effort on the part of the INTELLIGENT Black folks from both camps (Black American and African) to do this. I do business with them and I'm getting love and intimacy from them. I don't want ignorant ass niggaz online fucking it up for Black Americans who ARE getting along with Africans.