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Troy Sure, you can SAY it. But how much weight would the commentary of someone who hasn't even lived 100 years, carry in a conversation about "eternity"? Unless you believe in re-incarnation..... Why? What did I say that was wrong; that she looked good, was short like me, and must be 60 by now (google say 63)? Well, how would you like it if someone told you: "Man..... You shoooo' look better in this picture than I REMEMBERED ya lookin' ! Are we SURE this is you???? They must have PHOTOSHOPPED this mug, or something!" .....not exactly the BEST compliment, LMBAO.

Del You Don't cry for me Argentina(o). Not likely Why not? Troy Yeah they call that state "flow" nowadays. I experienced it all the time. Time during these periods literally flies. I can become so engrossed in an activity that I loose track of time. The first time I noticed this someone pointed it out to me after watching one of my gymnastics routines in high school. They said it looked like I'd completely blocked everything out. It was not a conscious thing that I tried to do. It came naturally. Now I'm aware of the conditions when it happens and I try to take advantages of them. In sports, it's called "The Zone". A state of extreme focus. your question about being "eternal" presumes we can dispense with the notion that everything ends. I don't think anything is eternal -- not this universe or even they photos that are hitting your eyeballs right now. Who...except for One who has lived eternally...can KNOW FOR SURE if anything can be eternal or not? She looks GOOD in that photo compared to what I recall from 40 years ago. Yeah she is short and I'm only 5' 7", My she has to be close to 60 now, so I guess that photo is very old. LMBAO.....man, I hope she's not reading this right now!!

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Gibran I would hear that song by Stephanie Mills called HOME, Now let me tell you bro, Stephanie is one TINY woman! I've seen her in real life on several occasions and she has a close relationship with the Nation of Islam and used to sing at certain events. That woman is literally just a bit taller than a midget. She's not a midget and she's well proportioned, but she is VERY small....and cute, lol. Del The mind is what makes your reality. The mind doesn't MAKE your reality; the reality you experience has already been created. Your mind helps you to EXPERIENCE the reality that you're in and gives you a particular perspective in it. What is your answer to your own question? My answer may be influenced by YOURS, which is why I must hear yours first....lol.

Gibran I hardly even see Asians but once. They don't keep coming back. Brother!.....((sigh)).....I WANT to say "This is because they aren't being targeted like AfroAmericans. That's why you don't see them in prison much." But I don't know if I should say that; because I'm not sure if that's the ENTIRE truth. The next time you go to a haircare/beauty supply store or convenience store or any other place where you may find several Koreans; ask yourself can you see them grouped up together in a room grinning and hee-heeing and hoo-hooing over stomping the shit out of another Korean who himself is laying on the floor on the other side of the room barely able to move but still cussing and yelling to the top of his lungs about what HE is going to do to THEM in a minute. Just picture that scenario in your mind. Look at those Koreans behind that counter in that business and imagine THEM playing out those roles in your mind....if you can....lol.

Good I think this is a great step TOWARD justice! There used to be a time when I would have criticized this story by saying: - "Ahh, he's almost 70 years old....why did they wait so long to go after him?" or -"Oh, that's just one man, there are many many more judges doing the shit he was doing." But I've learned over the years as long as it doesn't cause more harm (neither directly nor indirectly), then ANY activity that diminishes and seems to rectify the damages done by the system of White Supremacy should be appreciated and encouraged! Even if it's done by other Caucasians! If they aren't causing more harm and are helping our people then THANK THEM and encourage them to do more!!!! Don't give them the side-eye and criticize them or their intentions. This is why during a discussion on Youtube panel recently, while many were clowning on and criticizing Kim Kardashian for her attempts and SUCCESSES to get some AfroAmericans pardoned from their prison sentences by Trump....I DEFENDED HER! Others on the panel were accusing her of being insincere and clout chasing. But my argument was...I don't care. If she was helping Black people break free from the belly of the beast and smell the fresh air again, as far as I'm concerned she's doing a great work! I would also thank Trump for letting them go too! Who cares WHY White folks are doing what they are doing as long as it doesn't do more harm. If they are helping you in ANY way (again...as long as it doesn't cause more harm) then APPRECIATE it and THANK them and don't forget to encourage them to do more! As much as I talk against White Supremacy, on the rare occasion that I'm stopped by the police (I can count on one hand the number of times I've been stopped by law enforcement as an adult...and each time it was for minor traffic violations); every time they let me go without a ticket it's all about: "Yes sir! No sir! Thank you sir! Ok sir, thanks again....bye bye now!" You would think I was advertising for a tooth-paste commercial or a dentist's office the way I'm grinning.....lol. I don't know the future or what may happen to me in the next 5 minutes or next 5 years, but I know SO FAR far my encounters have been respectful and peaceful because my father TAUGHT me to behave in that manner to avoid trouble. If a White Supremacists or anybody for that matter doesn't give you a reason to be rude or aggressive....then DON'T be.

Gibran Sometimes being strong without good sense is a weapon to be used against a person. Think Samson, if you into the Bible Absolutely, in more ways that one..... -If you're strong and stupid then your enemy can outsmart you and use your strength to provide free/cheap labor for himself. -Also, if you're strong and stupid your enemy can control you by setting you against EACHOTHER I'm almost sure this is one of the main reason prisons across the nation ALLOW gangs to operate inside their confines. If you have 100,000 inmates and only 100 officers to control them then you will have to inevitably have to find a way to get them to CONTROL EACHOTHER. I'm sure there are Asians in prison, although I'm not sure how many. However I often wonder that if KOREANS were targeted by the police the way so many AfroAmericans are....what would be THEIR reaction? Would they just trot off to jail by the millions, or would they be sitting at home saying their good-byes to their families and locking themselves in the bathroom until..... And if for some reason they WERE rounded up and put in prison by the hundreds of thousands, would they spend their time raping and stabbing eachother over petty matters and power-moves? Somehow, I don't see them doing that.

Delano What if you found out that you were ETERNAL? How would that knowledge affect your perspective of "time" and it's quality or better yet VALUE? Gibran Always interesting posts.....always. You know, all the while reading your second post about your experiences in the belly of the beast I was thinking to myself...... We as AfroAmericans are a very strong people. The conditions you and others who've been inside have described that so many of our people go through and the hell that they endure is incredible. It's a wonder that most of them didn't just commit suicide or go absolutely insane to the point of incapacitation....which makes me wonder. We know our people are strong, but I wonder if they are TOO STRONG for their own good. Meaning...... Perhaps people who were "weaker" and wouldn't be able to tolerate nearly as much torture and humiliation...WOULDN'T tolerate it. In other words...... Since they KNEW they wouldn't be strong enough to survive the horrors of prison life, perhaps these weaker people would just say "fuck it" and instead of going through something so horrific would just commit suicide outright and get it over with before even going inside. I have a friend who's highschool friend of about 15 or 16 was dating a White girl and later on was accused of rape. He said that rather than go through the court system, paying for lawyers, and all of the worry and wonder of will he be found guilty and how much time he might have to do...he said after a long conversation with him his boy then went home and decided to just shoot himself and not even bother with the process. It reminds me of some of our ancestors who already saw what time it was on the slave ships on their way over here and decided to just go ahead and JUMP overboard. "....nah, not me. I ain't dealing with it.

Gibran My Mama got angry with me and told me that no white man could beat up that many ‘colored’ men. LOL...you know she was right. And another show that we loved as Black boys growing up was DUKES OF HAZZARD. We used to play it as children chasing eachother arouns playing Roscoe and Boss Hog. And ofcourse everyone wanted to drive the "General Lee" car with the Confederate Flag on it and older Black people couldn't figure out why. But many of our people were being programed into White Supremacy through these television shows at a young age. As it turned out, this was when they were getting ready to commence daylights saving time. I was visibly impressed, albeit a wee bit silly. You can laugh if you so choose, but I somehow thought that the white man was going to get into one of his rocket-ships, fly into space, and then to manually rotate the earth on its axis to alter time by one hour. This reminds me of Daniel 7: 25 "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time." This could refer to the Caucasian trying to change and alter time to CONFUSE the masses of our people and ATTEMPT extend his time of rulership on the planet by switching around the dates and times. B.C.....A.D....add 30...take away 33...lo. Listen to the first 10 or 15 minutes of this old clip of the Late and Great Dr. Khalid Muhammad breaking down how they switched up the dates and times to confuse you: Dr. Khalid Muhammad....Caucasians Changing The Time Any Damn Time They Get Ready

Dan My felony hasn’t stopped me from either activity. But you offered yourself as a walking-talking billboard for the Republican Party. That makes up for MORE than any crimes you may have committed in the past as far as White Supremacy is concerned. According to them, all your past has been forgiven by them....lol Absolutely Absolutely you LOVE criminals or absolutely you don't? Chev Yeah, my problem is about children being harmed. Ofcourse. And we know if they are beating up and locking up the adults left and right that disrupts the home and creates instability and dysfunction in the family. This affects those children for many many years afterwards. How many children are psychologically affected by having to visit their parents in prison?

Chev The word we use today "African" is NOT scripted like that! But... The term "YDNA" is NOT scripted like that! But... ...ok, here we go again with the JIVE. " Yeah man, I know I promised you da' money but..uhh....see...I didn't say AMERICAN money! I was talkin' bout MONOPOLY money! Which is actually BETTER ...if you stop and think about it."

Hey, sis....I got nothing but love for you also. And you can through brother Gibran into the mix.

Gibran I cannot count the number of times, unsuspecting crooks have been scammed into believing they had won a prize, only to walk into a set up by the police. Yeah, they got tricks. They get a lot of brothers who owe child support that way. Tell them they won a prize or pretend like it's a job calling them up......get them to come down to some big hall or convention center....and have a mass arrest. You spend all your 'game' to get your childhood sweetheart, and then don't know what to do with her once you get her. All your planning goes into getting her but no planning goes into KEEPING HER! So, you lose. You gotta plan for the success after the success if you intend to be truly successful. EXCELLENT ADVICE. That "spend your game trying to get the girl but then don't know what else to do once you finally get her" analogy really hit home...lol. I think most men could relate to that to some degree or another. For months or even years you hit on her and ask her to get with you and she disses and turns you down so much it becomes a routine. So one day she finally responds favorably and accepts....and now you're a loss for words, lol. You start sweating and panicking because you didn't really have a PLAN for her to actually come over to sit down with you or call you up on the phone...LOL. "Huh..what...? I....I gotta go now. Bye bye." I've seen a lot of dudes RUN AWAY when the girl of their dreams finally smiles at him or pushes up, lol. It goes back to what Troy and Dan were talking about in another thread about people who win millions in the lotto only to end up fucking it up. I'm learning that some of them do this ON PURPOSE. They didn't expect to REALLLY win! They were just playing and losing out of habit; just for something to do. And because they didn't expect to win, they didn't plan on it what they'd do with the money when they DID get it and aren't comfortable with the paranoia and fear of having that much money and all of the issues that come with it. So they subconsciously burn through it in a an attempt to get back to "normal". I was told several times when I was younger but didn't half way believe it until I got older that MANY PEOPLE ARE AFRAID OF SUCCESS!!! They are so used to failing that when success finally comes their way they either can't believe it or aren't ready for it, so they end up either running away from it or wasting it.

Chev The Bible and Egyptian script definitely details African traits that agree with the scientific data today about the origin of all modern males. Therefore, I suppose you wouldn't mind giving me quotes from the Bible AND ancient Egyptian script with the terms: -African traits -YDNA origins -African males ....since you say those documents DEFINITELY details them. I'll wait -for a little while. But I'm not gonna wait TOO long.

Gibran That is how we do it Brother with her, it's the ONLY way to do it....lol. I was standing in line at the grocery store the other day and something happened where the only cashier they had had to deal with an irate customer for 15 minutes and then had to go get the manager wasting another 20 minutes. Finally when I got to her to check-out, she looked at me talking about "thank you for your patience". I said don't thank me TOO much, because I didn't have much of a choice BUT to be patient anyway; unless I wanted to shoplift all of those groceries...lol. I didn't WANT to wait...I HAD to.

Dan Their actions are not our liabilities. If their actions are HARMING you, it is indeed a liability. If you own a business and a racist cop beats you up and puts you in the hospital for 2 weeks....how do you NOT lose money? Melodramatic most of them don’t have life sentences. Tell that to a felon who can't buy a home or get a well paying job when he finally gets out BECAUSE of his criminal record. Just a bit of advice.... You better be in a fast moving car driving away when you tell him! "Hey, hey...yall niccaz ain't in jail no mo'. Why don't you do something productive with ya lives!!" Expectations should not diminish accomplishments. By not properly framing disappointments we miss the lessons and opportunities. Good points. I do over 90% of what I want to do and never has the situation you described occurred to me. Most police officers are polite and professional. According to you, you were arrested for a crime back in the past. Were they nice and polite to YOU? But, your comment is understandable due to your love of crime and criminals. Are you saying you DON'T love criminals? A better question is what are you going to do differently when you get out or what are you doing to prepare yourself not to return? Besides suicide or repatriating to a remote uncharted island, what else CAN most of them do to guarantee that they won't end up being victimized a system they have little power over?

It sounds like a good and fair plan, but I would be suspicious that it was a trick just to see who was rollin' and as soon as they applied for amnesty they would be NABBED. "You're not under arrest for BEING a drug dealer. You're under arrest for being stupid enough and racist enough to think putting on black-face was necessary to BE one."

Troy Most of the White Cubans in Cuba LEFT the island decades ago because Castro came into power and demanded equality between them and the Black/Mulatto Cubans. They left and headed to Miami.

Dan It’s because we are just repeating slogans and not really doing and inventory of our assets, we are being smothered by our liabilities. The BIGGEST liability AfroAmericans face is the system of White Supremacy. If we were to remove ourselves from up under it's direct authority we would find ourselves meeting immediate success and prosperity. This is a result of the internalization of the omnipotence and omniscience attributed to White People. We have to demolish the myth of Whiteness in order for us to live freely and fully. I've heard of this strategy before. This is called living in DENIAL. Many have tried to "ignore" White Supremacy over the years only for it to come back and slap them in the face and throw a bucket of cold water on them later on....that's called a "wake up call". You....as a Black man....can't walk down the street and do HALF of what you want to do without some White man with a red face jumping in your path and demanding your ID and interrogating you over what you're doing and looking for a reason to charge you, yet you believe that red-neck rhetoric that you're "free" and nobody is holding you back...lol. Ask the millions of Black men who are incarcerated whether or not anyone is "holding them back". Denying the existence of White Supremacy didn't work in the past and it won't work now. They control most of the laws and rules you operate by, whether it's politically or financially. Most Black politicians realize this....and many who don't, often find out the HARD how much freedom they really have. Trying to ignore White Supremacy only leads to MORE frustration and confusion because you will do everything you THINK is right and when you STILL end up failing....you become HOPELESS because you can't figure out what's wrong or why you're not finding the success you expected. Troy Most of the world's planet lives in relative poverty. Yes the United States is relatively much better off than the rest of the planet. Unless you are one of the over 5 million people locked up in America's prisons and jails. They are living in LESS THAN POVERTY conditions! At least many of those poor people in other nations are free to move about, look for work, have sex, and make families. But the millions of Black and Brown in this nation who are behind bars can no longer do even that. Plus many of them are living in terror from the violence in their environment.

They are more than just "dark skinned"...they are BLACK. ....como tu y mi Mira a estos Cubanos: Si....Cuba tiene muchos gentes negros !

Chev I apologize for causing any offense.

Now sis...... You know GOOD and WELL that the Bible doesn't say anything about "YDNA origins" or "African males".....you can't find those terms anywhere in the Bible. And neither does ancient Egyptian scriptures for that matter.

I was making a larger point about how so many of our people celebrate these holidays and still imitating Caucasians but justify it by making various excuses for it. Now, you in this thread are specifically talking about the TIME PERIOD around ThanksGiving........... And YOUR reason for celebrating that time period is by calling it Ascension Day ; but you're actually just giving "Black Christians" an excuse to get drunk and eat turkey just like the White folks are doing and celebrate the same day...but with a different excuse to do it. It taps in to the weakness of our people and their desire to imitate White people by giving them a convenient excuse to do so. "Happy Thanks...I mean uh...uhhh... What are we 'pose to call it, now??? Oh yeah....HAPPY JESUS DAY!!!!" It's just an excuse to do the same thing White folks are doing while giving a different reason.

Chev I'm not talking about ancient Egyptian script...I'm talking about the Bible.

Troy Doctors and pharmacists design DRUGS and diagnose ILLNESSES based on race and racial differences. You've heard doctor after doctor of the highest educational status point out the high rates of Covid 19 among many BLACK people as compared to WHITE people! Now if race doesn't exist as you claim, why are such educated professionals making this claim?