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Interesting @Delano I can understand your reasoning when it comes to a mental and emotional level. And I can understand that all three have levels; Power, Knowledge and Belief have certain levels. An Igonrant force can overpower knowledge and so when I think about it in this way, I think about extinction. Hopefully, mankind will not become extinct due to brute force and power. Nuclear War comes to my mind. The Desolation of Abomination.

Yes, LOVE THIS REPLY! @ProfD!

Okay @Pioneer1 Perhaps the question should have been phrased differently; Which of the three would be would come first, POWER, KNOWLEDGE or BELIEF? But again, I based my answer on references and ancient script. So therefore, again all of the ancient scriptures places KNOWLEDGE first. KNOWLEDGE comes before POWER.

WELL, I can relate to being over weight!!! @Pioneer1 This reminds me of the film Sister Act. But no matter, the students don't bother me with their behaviors and so, I was the 'go-to' Sub in the Middle schools all of the time. If you have a problem with self esteem, then being a Middle school teacher is not the job to take. LOL. These kids can be a challenge though, but I am not intimidated. So, even though, I sign up for easy classes, the admin always changes my choice and put me in the difficult behavioral classes! As soon as I pull up in the parking lot, I hear my name on the loud intercom outside, for me to come to the office because I know they switched me! Before I even get to the class, the kids start cheeering when they see me coming. LOL. But I'm tought though. People may not realize it, but kids at this age love structure. My toughest challenge though is some of the young Black girls. They will try to challenge me, but soon they realize that is a bad decision. LOL. 'Momma don't play dat!' I been to a HBCU and know how to come back. I've lived in projects, some of the worse. FLASHBACK--I remember once, in college, when 'Loose Booty Gaby told me to jump off of the top of a pyramid'; she wanted me to hurt myself. Jealous Biatch. I climbed down slowly and walked right up to her . . . Of course, those were the days when I was not over weight. So I was always the one to climb to the top. I can't even fight, but I was going to try that day. BUT the football players were in the gym that day, and they came running over, hollering! . . . They confronted my cheerleading coach. So no, I don't have a problem teaching kids because, I don't have a problem with competing against other young girls needing the attention that I got when I was young. I give them the love and attention that I know they need. Young girls need mother figures, they don't need some old Black woman trying to compete with them. But yes, back to the subject at hand, I think that the ancient humans have observed human behavior for thousands of years, therefore, KNOWLEDGE is necessary to have POWER, and MORE POWER than the enemy. Otherwise, you will always be overpowered. I am not relying on my own opinions here.

Well, considering that Black folks have been successfully oppressed by WS, it may not be such a bad thing if positive minded White people came to a Black forum to give input. @ProfD Do you believe that there are any White folks with good humanitarian intentions? I think that there are non-Black people with good intentions, but it's difficult to exclude vanity. So therefore, I do get upset when I can sense the vain responses, however, I do believe that there are people with good intentions. And another point, I want to bring out about this topic of 'Why do white folks show up' in Black forums like AALBC: Of course, many Whie people show up with divisive tactics, IMO. They come to divide and cause confustion because they are White Supremacist. However, how can Black people even dare to have a problem with this, if they are doing the same thing within the Black community!? Black people do not need any help in causing divisions within Black communities. The passive-aggressive, under handed deceptions played out is such a detriment and so, following up White people when they come to Black communities and then complaining about it, is just ridiculous.

You are hilarious! @Pioneer1 HOWEVER, I don't want to shut out my sistas, so I will say this; If Black women are not getting sufficient attention from Black men, then what are they suppose to do!? I believe that we need to edify the Black culture here in America, but there is nothing wrong with inter-racial unions as long as it does not define us 'as a whole'. Black women NEED male coverage. We deserve this just as any other kind of females. I chose to bond with a Black man and although, it has been a hard road due to racism and such, however, I don't believe that all Black women have that opportunity. So in the case of the subject OF MALES, I believe that MALES WILL BE MALES!!! --No matter what 'race', men will be men and this world needs male dominance and male understanding too!

@Pioneer1 Not so. Even you have explained this! You gave examples too in how someone who is ignorant of another's KNOWLEDGE of the gun will win the conflict!!! KNOWLEDGE is NOT potential power. KNOWLEDGE does NOT exactly equal power. KNOWLEDGE does not equal Power. Knowledge gives you what is needed in how to use power to your benefit or not. Knowledge and understanding comes first because an ignorant person can have power, but cannot overcome someone who has the knowledge in how to use more power to overcome. True! IT'S AMAZING HOW PEOPLE CAN SENERGIZE and add to humanity as a group. I taught as a Long Term Substitute Teacher for an ELA class [i.e. English, Language Arts] and was enriched. I was ablt to go back and re-learn the benefit of Metaphors and Simile. So, I can understand why this phrase 'KNOWLEDGE IS POWER' has been viewed as correct. BUT IT IS NOT! I finally realize this. Again, you have to have knowledge and understanding in order to KNOW how to proceed in any form of action in order to get results, otherwise, your actions will become a complete waste of time.

One again, @ProfD, I remember someone said something about that in this thread, earlier--ABSOLUTE Power. But again, I'm part of this Peanut gallery world too So, after thousands of years of mankind seeing the behavior of mankind, even when it comes to power, I DON'T THINK ABSOLUTE POWER is forever over no mankind forever because after awhile, KNOWLEDGE increases and the one in power won't last because others will get stronger and overpower. However, ancient scripture does say that YES, God does give power to EVIL forces to overcome another evil force. I'm just saying that this is what ancient scriptures say. A long time ago, Black civilizatiions were better off than today and now a lot of Black people are definitely overpowered, but I just don't think it will be forever. BUT the power to overcome, as I have said before-- will have to come from divine power--because our ancestors opened the door and allowed WS to set up for a long time before they were overpowered. So, that would mean that hopefully KNOWLEDGE will be gained so that a repeat will not happen again. TRUE, I guess that is why governments are battling now! I think belief is part of the process! @Delano Belief as you wrote earlier, may change with scope. But yes, I think KNOWLEDGE about some things can change too, but when it comes to all power, so far, and for thousands of years, it seems to me that KNOWLEDGE trumps everything when you compare the three--BELIEF, POWER, KNOWLEDGE. Yes, absolutely but after a while, the knowledge and history shows DIVINE KNOWLEDGE is not measurable. No, I don't think it is the same. Just as I thought that KNOWLEDGE = POWER, however, this thread has caused me to rethink this!

ABOUT POWER: [19] Every man also to whom God hath given riches and wealth, and hath given him power to eat thereof, and to take his portion, and to rejoice in his labour; this is the gift of God. QOH5.19 ECCLESIATES 5:19. [8] There is no man that hath power over the spirit to retain the spirit; neither hath he power in the day of death: and there is no discharge in that war; neither shall wickedness deliver those that are given to it. QOH8.8. ECCLESIATES 8:8. [37] Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power over his own will, and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well. 1CORINTHIANS 37:7. *Mankind has WILLPOWER but not physical power to overcome any mankind save through divine power of God. [2] Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:... EPHESIANS 2.2. [10] Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might. EPHESIANS 6.10. *the scriptures speak about the physical power of governments to cause oppression; the god of force, etc. But no mankind can overcome another forever. So for this reason, I still believe that KNOWLEDGE is more powerful than being powerful as an individual or even a group without wisdom and understanding on how to WORK towards overcoming power. KNOWLEDGE leads to power: 2Pet.1 [2] Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God, and of Jesus our Lord, [3] According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:... 2 PETER 1:2. [19] The LORD by wisdom hath founded the earth; by understanding hath he established the heavens. [20] By his knowledge the depths are broken up, and the clouds drop down the dew. PROVERBS 3:19-20. *So UNDERSTANDING AND KNOWLEDGE leads to ACTION. [17] And thou say in thine heart, My power and the might of mine hand hath gotten me this wealth. [18] But thou shalt remember the LORD thy God: for it is he that giveth thee power to get wealth, that he may establish his covenant which he sware unto thy fathers, as it is this day. DEUTERONOMY 8:17, 18.

@Pioneer1 You guys almost led me to change my first BELIEFS! Yes, I initially thought about the verse 'Faith without works are dead' in relation to POWER in relation to ACTION. BUT no, I will stick with my original statement, in that KNOWLEDGE is more powerful than both, POWER and BELIEFS. I check the ancient scriptures and came to this conclusion. Okay. I thought it was you, @ProfD but yes, it was @Troy who made that comment. And, that popular verse about 'Knowledge is Power' gave me a delayed thought. If this phrase is right then, I came to think that KNOWLEDGE is equal to POWER. So, this caused me to google the ancient scriptures, and what do you know!!! That is not scripture. And, I know that you are the resident agnostic, so I understand you rationale, however, I still believe that KNOWLEDGE TRUMPS POWER, based on ancient prophets. ALL THROUGHOUT SCRIPTURE it makes it an ABSOLUTE TRUTH that there is no such thing as any human having power! In other words, ALL WHO BELIEVE IN THE SUPREME BEING [i.e. God Almighty] believes that mankind has absolutely no power and can do nothing without the POWER OF GOD. So therefore, it you read all ancient scripture, it is redundant. There is no action that mankind can do to overpower anyone or anything except that that power comes from THE DIVINE POWER OF GOD. So all ancient scripture aligns KNOWLEDGE with UNDERSTANDING and WISDOM as a pathway to getting POWER. One scripture says that through understanding and knowledge God created. So even God was moved to ACTION from His knowledge and understanding. So, therefore, I will post just a few references, but again, this is redundant throughout the entire Bible. Man has no power but by God to overcome in war and to overcome the power of darkness, to overcome the prince of darkness, etc.

I JUST WATCHED THE ENTIRE GAME! I finally watched the replay and it was awesome! LSU was amazing! Angel Reese and another star player got into foul trouble early in the game, so coach Mulky sat them down through the 2nd quarter. But Jasmin Carter came of the bench and WOW! Just WOW! She was hitting 3 pointers consistently in the 2nd quarter, right up until the bell rang! The Iowa Hawkeyes were also awesome. It was worth watching. Now next year might be interesting! Why!? Because Haley Van Lith might be on the team!!! And yes, Angle Reese did go to the White House. She did not let her coach and her team down. Angel Reese, and Haley Van Lith Is Hailey Van Lith Transferring to LSU to Play With Angel Reese? BY RAKIBUL JOHN RODGERS APRIL 21, 2023 https://www.sportsmanor.com/tag/angel-reese/page/2/

True. Again, I can understand this too, especially when I think about an example such as America and its educational system! In this case, yes, power has restricted access to knowledge for so many people! But then, I would suppose that some people today, have come to UNDERSTAND that power has done this and now are making ways to gain better knowledge over this kind of power. Yes! Ah! My next thought is if power overcomes knowledge and you come to understand that you have no power over knowledge, then no matter what a person knows, it doesn't matter, if power is more supreme. So do you overcome power with power, or just be subdued? Or do you WORK in the sense that work/with time and hopefully gain more power as @Mel Hopkins states? I guess, another way to phrase my thoughts are, for example, 'the fruits of the Spirit'; patience, meaning in TIME, even if someone is more powerful but lacks KNOWLEDGE, then they will soon decrease and lose their power base and thereby, a person with more knowledge may increase.

I think KNOWLEDGE is the most powerful. Like the old saying goes, 'Knowledge is Power' as @ProfD also noted. If you have more knowledge then you will have better access to gainging power. And if you have knowledge then you will make better decisions on what to believe or not to believe. Yes, I believe knowledge will change respectively to all of the above if you gain more knowledge but, it will not alter ones belief or ability to have power. If you gain more personal knowledge, and if you gain more knowledge about global issues and national issues, it will only increase your power and strengthen a belief system. Your belief system or values may change as you increase your knowledge, but again, knowledge is the more important of all. And furthermore, the ancient scriptures also take it to another level and state that after KNOWLEDGE, getting A BETTER UNDERSTANDING of Knowledge is even better. It goes on to say that KNOWLEDGE and UNDERSTANDING is more precious than rubies or any material wealth. I guess this is because by having knowledge and understanding, a person can know how to acquire wealth. For now, knowledge and understanding hasn't gotten me any great wealth! I guess I need to have some BELIEF; the belief in having patience? smh!

Oh WOW! This is interesting. I need to come back and read more carefully.

Thank you @Troy! I've been avoiding this subject because I just did not understand. But now, after listening to this thread, I realize that I have to know about it in order to keep up with this younger generation! So, I am doing some research to try and understand what Artificial Intelligence means in relation to this new chtGPT. WOW! I did not realize what it means until now! Apparently, it just started in Novvember 30, 2022! And, anything after September 2021, will not be part of the information it can offer because it has not caught up with current events supposedly. I am amazed! You cause me to reflect back when I first read this! Yes, it has EYES all around it, in the front, back, etc. You know, years back, I shared my understanding of this with my young sons but I never realized that they would take it to another level. No, God doesn't need robots, but, you are definitely hitting on something! In my 'small' way of understanding this scientific aspect of prophecy, I told my sons to LOOK UP! I told them that all of the space probes being invented and sent to space for exploration correlates to the billions of stars in space and to a very, very, small aspect, space probes function as some of the stars. They are like satellites. Stars have many distinct functions and this is in ancient scripture too. They take pictures and capture history just like we can watch a video of humans, even some that have died many years ago. You can watch a video of the late Michael Jackson or the late Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. as if he is still living. A lot of people don't realize what some of the those stars are doing and have been doing for thousands and thousands of years. Some stars have the capablity to RECORD and/or blot out. I told my sons this and fast forward to this day, I would have never realized that they would study in the field of science as they did. so yes, those prophets knew what they were writing about, although I don't understand completely, as you have reminded me, those EYES, and that creature that Ezekiel wrote about is fascinating.

ABSOLUTELY! @ProfD Ha ha! You both did a great job breaking down some ISH in our culture! LOL. I read the post. I've been absent for a few days, so I need to catch up. LIONS are at the top of the list so these cats need to be studied, IMO. It would be a great help for humans to study their social behavior. ABSOLUTELY MY FAVORITE ANIMAL! @Pioneer1 Oh! This is on point! It fits this topic. IMO, our culture has been under attack from the start of America. We have a culture, yes, due to slavery and sticking together for survival in the beginning, but by and by, America has exploited us economically, racially, educationally, etc. Now, thanks to Obama, we have to deal with the issue of GENDERISM, as if we need that confusion. We have to defend our culture from so many different angles, it's ridiculous. So this topic of FRIEND VERSUS ALLIES is on point. Nowadays, it's hard to know who to trust within our culture because some African Americans are like chameleons. In the past, it was natural to see and be able to identify a Black man or women, no matter if they were fair skinned or dark skinned but today, a dark skinned person may say they are Black American to you but then change and say they are of another ethnicity to another person. It happens all the time now. And let's not even bring up the gender issue. I believe that this kind of inclusivity issue effects our culture negatively more than any other culture. That is why I love the lion kingdom so much; no problems there with any sort of change. People better keep hoping and worshiping this system and praying to their leaders that this earth will not ever purge itself because if technology collapses then the matriarchal dominance will become completely vulnerable again. I think humans have a false sense of security though. Here we go: I have an example of what it would be like to challenge the very natural MIGHT and POWER of a male species when your life depends on it. Lions will protect their future generations. If they claim their lionesses, then they will defend them and not abandoned them. For some women, it would be great if we could get rid of males, but for now, this creation is here, and the animal kingdom also shows that males are probably not going to be extinct any time soon. Big male lion shows lioness how to deal with hyenas Even the vultures fled the scene! Ha! The Hyenas harassed the lionesses but, they would not even come near the lion! CRAZY! This video shows that this precious lioness is trying to get the lions attention because she knows that she needs that kind of protection for her survival! IT'S THEIR NATURE! No Gender confusion here! LOL!

Ah! This reminds me of one of my favoriite animal behaviors I love to learn about; lions. I learned from experts that there is a distinction between a lion pride versus a lion coalition; A lion pride are lions of the same family, however, a lion coalition can be a group of lions that are somewhat related but it can consist of brothers, cousins, fathers, etc. and there can be somewhat of an overlap. lions brothers may fight each other but they will always stick together until death, however, in a colatition, sometimes they may conflict and break up and form other bonds. However, even when they fight each other, they don't intend to kill each other.

Oh My GOODNESS! This brings back memories! I love so many of her songs!

What!? He's Jewish? That's interesting. Does he profess to be Jewish? Today's European Jews versus the historical basis is subjective, I guess.

Yes, it was a nervous smile and she was not prepared for such a reaction. But, I think that it depends on the person, even if it was a Black girl. If you see someone that you might believe would not behave like a drunk, then it could catch you off guard. LOL! Wait-a-minute! @Pioneer1 Remember Rodney King!? That was the first thing I thought about way back when! I was surprised that someone whipped out a recorder and showed how he was beat up by the police.

True! Yep! Yes. I believe they know a lot. And in some respect, it may not be easy to understand initially. Sometimes, it comes down to science and measurement and unless we have the opportunity to learn how, for example, astronomers can look into telescopes and measure and interpret, then it may not be easy to understand the wider scope of what they publish.

Okay! Wait-a-minute! Maybe you are missing the point as to why they are pushing these ideologies and like you say, they are still reproducing and making plans to keep on living. @Pioneer1 Again, WAIT-A-MINUTE! @ProfD Why do Black people sign on to the point-of-view and conditioning that comes from White Supremacist? If you are saying that the earth is 5 billion years old, and homo sapiens are 190,000 years old, then you must not be understanding the bigger reality in what you are believing. If you say the earth is that old, then where are you getting this information from? And, if the earth is that old then, and you say that mankind could be here for only 'a blip' then, obviously you seem to think that there could be some type of catastrophe on this earth that could wipe out mankind. Therefore, the fear that you say is coming from White man's philosophy pushed on us about the earth coming to an end is a VALID FEAR. But no. I don't believe Black people understand the concept of the earth coming to an end because they have bought into the ideology of White Supremacist and their way of thinking. Black people are so easily and ready to believe White people. If White supremacist campaign and tell us to STOP fighting for the human rights to be able to drink out of the better water fountain and START fighting for the right to vote for a Democratic White leader to give you that right to drink out of a better water fountain, OFF WE GO! If White supremacist say, Black people you now need a Black Democratic leader, and then OFF WE GO voting for any Black candidate that they choose. Next thing you know, we are now fighting for the RAINBOW COALITION to represent our human rights because this so-called Black bi-racial president caused the federal law to be passed for homosexuals. The end of the world is defined in ancient scriptures as being some type of catastrophe that will lead to humans having to seek shelter in caves. It does not mean that all humans will be wiped out. That is the conditioning that Black people have received because they are not reading the scripts for themselves. Yes, the earth catastrophe will lead to many humans that will die, but never has it been stated that all humans will be wiped out. Part of the fear of White Supremacist is not that they will all end, but that they will not be able to ENSLAVE BLACK AFRICANS ANYMORE and the ideology about a NEW JERUSALEM [i.e. New Heaven] is a great fear for them. When Black people dismiss the idea that there will come a time where there will be a NEW HEAVEN to descend on earth after the earth wil go through a period of castrophe, then what they have done is to buy into the ideology of White Supremacist and accept the 6000 year continual existence of constantly being inflitrated, and enslaved and imprisoned. AND THAT IS A FORM OF CRAZINESS! When Black people believe that they will always be subjected to enslavement, and imprisonment and genocidal attacks with no complete deliverence then, the White Supremacist has been affective in you not believing in the right kind of belief system. When after 6,000 years of Black oppression, we believe that we as humans can end this kind of existence ourselves without any help for a higher being then, why should he help? LOL. He isn't going to help those who want to do it themselves then. I am one that does not want to continue to live in a world where Black people are always suppressed. I have hope and believe that one day there will be a change and I hope that I can experience that change. Yes, sometimes I do want to give up and give into that kind of mind control in that this existence will never end and I want some milk and kool aide too! HA! HA! And sometimes I do think it's a joke to think that things will ever change, so yeah, give me another round of milk and kool aide!

LOL! You may have shared it, @richardmurray but for me, there is so much to process on AALBC and so, I miss a lot. Sometimes, I skip over a lot of threads and then later I will go back and click and read. I had no idea there was a black film festival! That amazes me. I want to know more about it now, like when did it begin and what types of films are featured and rated? I love family oriented shows that can be showed to the whole family minus the sexual scenes. I like documentaries.

Get out! Well, you learn something new everyday! Much love for you! @Pioneer1 Nice song! @richardmurray I googled the restaurant and it seems amazing! The Light House Fish Market I love seafood! And this restaurant seems very classy. This is a picture of the street it is located. The entrance lobby

These films must be on another level that poor people like me cannot access easily. Do you have to be signed up for some type of program in order to know about these films? It is on Neflex or something similar? I've never looked into Neflex but I am thinking that it is some type of program where people pay and then can watch films that are only shown on this channel or something. Can Neflex movies be watched for free? I would like to have access to some type of list that shows films broadcasted through Neflex because I would like to see films if they have themes that might interest me. Anyway, I looked up info on what you've posted @richardmurray and the first one says this: A single mom of a special needs child struggles to keep her head above water as she tackles the day on a quarter tank of gas The actors and actresses are beautiful. I've never heard or them before! Times are moving too fast for me to keep up what is going on in the film world! and the other film you posted, I looked that up too. And it set in South Florida. It's a series I suppose and it's a horror flick. I don't really like horror films anymore, but the film does seem to be well put together! This is the first time I've heard of ABFF American Black Film Festival. That is awesome.