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Mzuri Why is he a racist? Where is your evidence? Well first of all Greg Kelly is on NEWSMAX....lol....an ultra-right wing news channel. That right there is enough evidence that he's a racist. And saying that being on a right-wing news channel doesn't necessarily make him racist...is like saying a man standing in a Ku Klux Klan robe with a torch in his and doesn't necessarily make HIM racist either...lol. Secondly.... Most right-wing conservatives CLAIM to support the troops....our soldiers. But all of a sudden when it came to that Black Latino officer who was pulled out of his car and assaulted IN UNIFORM down in Virginia....all of a sudden him being an officer in the miitary didn't matter and he claimed he got what he deserved: Obviously these racists don't care about "supporting the troops" and "respecting the uniform"....when a BLACK MAN is in it. Nor do they care about violation or rights and a "police state" as long as Black people are being harassed. I have proof that your girl is a racist because she doesn't care that a white woman went missing and was found murdered in the woods. Those weren't her exact words but...there's a difference between being RACIST and COUNTER-RACIST. A racist starts the problem. A counter-racist is REACTING TO the problem that was started BY the racist initially. She was offering a counter racist perspective by pointing out the injustices of how missing Black girls are treated in favor of White girls and to address the issue. To say she's a racist for POINTING OUT the injustices of racism...is like calling a woman a sexist for POINTING OUT the injustices of the Taliban on women.

Mzuri Greg Kelly on NewsMax features a Black person, usually a child, that was killed by gun violence on every one of his shows. I haven't seen it but if racist Greg Kelly is reporting on it, it CAN'T be any good for us no matter how pretty he's wrapping it up as. He's probably doing it as a "sneak diss" to really make Black people look like violent thugs who kill innocent children. Kind of like how they talk about Chicago. They'll do a story about how the "poor residents" of Chicago have to constantly put up with out of control violence. Which is true. But they don't do the story because they feel sorry for the Black residents, but as negative propaganda to portray Black people as violent criminals. I forgot, is she the one that's your tootsie roll? Well....she's ONE of them, lol.

tipsyturv Yeah...lol....I remember WELL

I told you a year ago that most Black folks don't care. Look at what's happening down at the border now. Where are the Black protestors?

The remark was insensitive. Especially considering that a young lady very likely has lost her life (and possibly the young men). However she was making a much needed BROADER point about how this society and the media in specific places more value on the lives of White women than women of Color. Thousands of Black and Brown women go missing year after year and you don't see the media turning their cases into soap operas and teasing out the details to the public like they do in this case and other cases similar. Injustice has it's consequences. Showing favoritism to ONE child often inspires jealousy and resentment among the others. I would have done it differently. I would have featured several cases of missing Black girls ALONG WITH this high profile case to illustrate what has been missing in the mainstream media.

Mzuri If some BS like this happened under the Trump administration you all would be up in arms. Well that's one of the FEW good things about the Trump Administration. Atleast Blk folks stayed on their toes and were ready to clap back at every perceived slight because so much open racism filled the atmosphere. I doubt if there would have been riots if George Floyd had been killed a few years earlier under an Obama Administration under the same circumstances. The society wasn't as racially hot. Troy Besides, I think white folks are getting tired of Black people and our problems… Lol...apparently they aren't THAT tired. They haven't stopped MAKING them.

Today, most major media outlets actually GET much of their news from social media and the information that users are posting. You're much more likely to get the truth from a tweet or what someone recently posted on You Tube, than in some heavily edited report from Fox or CNN with half of the relevant details covered up. One of the benefits of social media is it's helping end the censorship that has historically been agreed upon by the mainstream media.

tipsyturv Brother Irish is a NATIONALITY....not a race. It has no genetic component that allows you to have a little bit of it in you. That's like a person is 1/8 Catholic or 50% American. Either you were born in Ireland or you weren't. Now you can have a little bit of Caucasian in you or a little bit of African or a little Native American. That's highly possible. But unless somebody gave you some dirt from Ireland and you consumed some of it....you don't have a little bit of Irish in you.

AfroAmericans. This is happening to the poor Ayitian people who came here seeking asylum because WE as a community allowed it to. There are enough Black people in Congress, in the state government of Texas, and in law enforcement to step in and STOP the mistreatment of these people....if they really cared.

That's what I was talking about....lol

I hope that people can objectively see themselves and act accordingly. I agree absolutely! Cynique Stop disrupting Delano's thread with your nonsense and act ACCORDINGLY! This is for INTELLIGENT discussion, not foolishness! Now....... If your hope is for someone else to reach a goal. Then it is something you will never attain, since you are neither the subject or the object. This subtlety of this statement is invisible to the practical or myopic thinker. If HOPE is the "it" you're talking about....then they don't have to attain it...they already HAVE it.

tipsyturv What happened to the picture of your grandfather? Did you take it down?

.........oh boy.

Cynique i repeat: you are deluded in that you have convinced yourself that I have ulterior motives and am spending my time psycho-analysing you. Delano is right when he says you have an egocentric consistency. And Delano was also right when he said: 1. You can only be mistaken 2. You're not invested in the truth of your statements Now STOP. You're interrupting my "zombie movie" time going back and forth with you...lol

Mzuri I am fairly certain that @Cynique does not consort with drunkards Or atleast they don't START OFF as drunks..lol "Man, them light skinned women. I'm telling you....."

Cynique You're too deluded to realize you're deluded. You're too deluded to realize how clearly I see your motives...lol. Or so forward and bold, you WANT me to. Delano I would say of his positions are irrational yet logical, since they have an egocentric consistency. Can you give us an example of an irrational position that I take? You can also be hopeful for something that you will never attain But who's to say what will "never" be attained? Never is a long time for something to NOT occur in. Cynique is not delusional, she can only be mistaken. since she is not emotional invested in the truth of her statement. I would say Cynique is disinvested in Pioneer. Well if she spends this much time trying to psycho-analyze someone she's disinvested in....imagine the focus and dedication she'll give when she finally finds her niche...lol.

tipsyturv Id also defnitely say that many Jewish people are clearly more of Mediterranean-ish heritage than just White. The fact tht many of them can grow real afros shows that they are not "White" people IMO Interesting observation.... However I'd be careful using ONE or TWO phenotypical traits alone to take someone OUT of a racial category since race is so much more complex than just a hand full of physical characteristics. For example there are a lot of Black people with thin noses or slant Asian looking eyes..does THAT take them out of the "Black" racial category? A lot of Black people with straight or wavy hair as in the pictures you provided above....does THAT take them out of the "Black" racial category? If not, why should curly or even kinky hair take a person with White skin and other Caucasian features except for their hair out of the "White" racial category? For me a person's race is a result of a PREDOMINANCE of phenotypical features...not just a few. They're clearly more closely physically similar to populations like Italians or Spaniards, or even North Africans. This is true. Many Ashkenazi's ancestors CAME THROUGH Italy and Spain on their way to northern and central Europe. But as I've said before, they have far more European ancestry than Middle Eastern. Which is why I classify them as Caucasians racially..despite trace amounts of Hebrew ancestry. Infact, most Italians have more African and Arab ancestry coursing through their veins than the average Ashkenazi Jew. John Turturro Nicholas Turturro Famous Italian American actors

Mzuri Yeah?? Lol.... I wonder does she have a drunk old man who staggers by and flirts with her from time to time....like the woman from Do The Right Thing? *RIP Ruby and Ozzie

Ok.........then you've been going to the entrance of your lair too often to gaze up at the moon, lol.

YOU'RE deluded about me having that belief....lol.

tipsyturv But, I look just like my great great grandmother because my grandpa looks like her - and I look like him. LOL So it at least explains the "other" people see in me. I am always asked "What are you?" Genetics is an interesting study because a person of mixed race ancestry can have all of the phenotypical traits of one race EXCEPT the skin color....be only the skin color of the other race....and come out looking like an entirely different race than both! They can be mixed with African and Caucasian and come out with a straight hair, thin nose/mouth, and dark brown skin..looking like an Indian or East African. People who aren't aware of this may mistake a typical AfroAmerican Mulatto admixture with an Ethiopian or even East Indian. And yes, Afro-Americans have European ancestry in general, but it's usually NorthWestern European ancestry from slavery . I also have this of course, but I do NOT acknowledge it all for obvious reasons. Besides, my fully Irish ancestor is like 6 generations away from me. My Ashkenazi ancestor is actually the closest non-Black ancestor in my tree. This is true. Also we have a lot of Native American ancestry. For some, their Native American ancestry is more pronounced than their Caucasian ancestry. 2. You're kinda wrong here. Ashkenazi Jews are of deeper MIddle Eastern heritage. An Ashkenazi Jew themselves will tell you that. Read this article written by an actual Ashkenazi. The way modern Judaic ethnicity works is if your MOTHER was a Jew then YOU are considered Jewish..whehther you practice it or not. So what you have today among many Ashkenzai Jews are Caucasians with TRACE amounts of the original Middle Easter (Sephardic) Jewish ancestry but diluted with a predominant European ancestry. Maybe a woman who was a full blood Hebrew back in 900 AD mated with a Caucasian from France and had children...and her daughters (technically Jewish though only half Hebrew by race) had daughters who did the same and have children with Caucasian men...so on and so forth. This is typically how most Ashkenazi Jews came into being. European Caucasians with trace amounts of actual Hebrew Middle Eastern ancestry. Another example to use recently is how so many blonde haired blue eyed Caucasians in the U.S. have Italian last names and go around calling themselves "proud Italians". But if you go on the East Coast and look at the Italian communities of New York or Boston or Philly....most of them are dark haired, dark eyed, and have tans and more African features than other Caucasians and certainly look different than most of the so-called "Italians" in the rest of this nation. Because they are truer to their roots and aren't as diluted. Sometimes the names and culture lasts where the genetics don't. Like you said, to people who are well versed in the subject...it's very interesting and the more detail...the better. You can read hours and hours of detail on a particular aspect of a person's heritage and ancestry and wouldn't come out one bit confused but more enlightened. But with MOST people.... Giving them more details and being more specific about this cultural trait and that racial trait seems to cause even MORE confusion in them...lol. This ancestral DNA thing is an example of this because you have people running around calling themselves 3% Irish and 7% Russian not realizing that these are nationalities that can't be passed along in the genes. The older I get the more I understand why the very educated often kept certain knowledge in elite circles.

Cynique Meanwhile, the third rock from the sun continues to wobble on its axis, rocking its dizzy inhabitants, leaving them to lament its atmosphere of turmoil and bigotry. But there are exceptions. Me? I no longer give a damn. Lol...I think you've been spending too much time going out on the porch and gazing up at the moon.

I'm not delusional.....so I wouldn't know.