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zeke1234 Travis King who ran into North Korea a few days ago, under duress of prosecution, is a 'brother' according to photo shown of CNN. Bad choice to run to. All I could do with that one was shake my head and say, "Naaaaawww, brutha...naw" LOL ProfD White Christians clearly have a different interpretation of their religion especially as it relates to how they treat other folks. Interestingly, white Christians will sanction murder and be the 1st in line to kill other folks too. Ofcourse they have a different interpretation of the religion....THEY invented it and know how it operates, lol. They use the scriptures and doctrine that is beneficial for THEM and their purposes and discard or ignore the rest. ....unless it comes in handed for suppressing people of color. I believe this fella and Carlee Russell, the young lady who was supposedly missing for a few days are examples of the unintelligent Black folks we have to leave behind as dead weight. LOL I'm inclined to agree with you, however I want to hear a little bit more on this Travis fellow and get a little more on his story. When I heard that some U.S. soldier "sprinted" across the DMZ...my first fleeting thought was that it was a Black man for several reasons: 1. Running across the border not thinking about being shot...as if he could out run a bullet. Typical "hood" mentality. 2. Who else besides a Black man could find being in the U.S. so harsh and unbearable that he'd decide to give life in NORTH KOREA a chance...lol

So "awareness" determines whether or not an environment is "real" or not?

frankster To my knowledge All the material that mankind uses is from Nature... FROM nature. Meaning it's no longer IN nature. Why is it not artificial? Artificial is a "man made" imitation of something original. Why would you still considered it a part of Nature... Because I consider animals in the wild and their habitat part of nature. Yes it was not made by humans....but by birds - are birds and human Animals? Birds are, humans are not. Truth be told we are all Africans But that's not the truth....lol....so don't tell it. They were Beings from outer space with superior knowledge But you don't consider them "gods" or "real gods"? Then you misunderstood....I was referring to the cat in schrodinger's thought experiment - not Time Oooooh, ok....well then I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.

Nobody said ANYTHING about Kamala Harris or Malcolm X in this thread until YOU brought them up, but I have you quoted as saying "of course".....which I take to mean you agree to CHANGE your position on race if I prove to you that science accepts that multiple races exist. Well....😏....we'll see. Disparities in the Prevalence of Diabetes: Is it Race/Ethnicity or Socioeconomic Status? Results from the Boston Area Community Health (BACH) Survey Major federal agencies (like the National Institutes of Health and the Centers for Disease Control) and professional organization (like the American Diabetes Association) continue to identify race/ethnicity as a major determinant of the prevalence of diabetes in the United States1–3. This has spawned a well-intentioned search for underlying genetic and bio-physiologic explanations, eventually leading to identification of promising biomedical interventions to reduce race/ethnic disparities in diabetes. In contrast, social epidemiologists continue to find that socioeconomic status may be a more important determinant of diabetes prevalence, even accounting for much of the widely accepted race/ethnic effect4–10. Such findings suggest markedly different explanations (in social circumstances, and environmental and neighborhood influences) and precipitate different types of primary, secondary, and upstream policy interventions. In the United States and many other countries, race/ethnic minorities are more likely to be poorer and less well educated than the majority white population. This has caused researchers to repeatedly ask the question which motivates this paper: is the widely accepted disparity in the prevalence of diabetes really attributable to race/ethnicity (which is considered non-modifiable), or is it due to socioeconomic status (which is potentially modifiable through upstream social policy interventions)? This question has important implications for clinicians, health services researchers, and policy makers. We attempt to answer it using data from a community-based epidemiologic survey of Boston, Massachusetts residents. Disparities in the Prevalence of Diabetes: Is it Race/Ethnicity or Socioeconomic Status? Results from the Boston Area Community Health (BACH) Survey - PMC (nih.gov) Study explores race differences of lung cancer risk Vanderbilt research scientist Melinda Aldrich, Ph.D., MPH, has been awarded a National Institutes of Health Academic Career Award to investigate some of the genetic secrets behind a greater risk of lung cancer among African-Americans compared with other racial and ethnic groups. Study explores race differences of lung cancer risk | VUMC Reporter | Vanderbilt University RACE, ETHNICITY, AND NIH RESEARCH AWARDS We hypothesized that scientists of different races and ethnicities with similar research records and affiliations would have similar likelihoods of being awarded research grants. To test this, we used data from the NIH IMPAC II (Information for Management, Planning, Analysis, and Coordination) grants data system consisting of application and investigator data for Research Project Grants (RPGs) submitted between FY 2000 and FY 2006 (5, 6). During the application process, investigators self-identified their race and ethnicity. Our analysis sample contains (Type 1) R01 grant applications; the R01 is the oldest and most widely used investigator-initiated research project grant. Our sample is limited to Ph.D. investigators at U.S. institutions and includes 83,188 applications with data available for most of the explanatory variables. Because investigators can submit multiple grants for different projects, this represents 40,069 unique investigators. RACE, ETHNICITY, AND NIH RESEARCH AWARDS - PMC

When it comes to critizing Israel....I have mixed feelings. On the one hand, I do believe that most of them are Europeans who stole that land from the darker Palestinians and are oppressing them. On the other hand, I have to look at several other facts: 1. Many Palestinians and many Arabs in general tend to be racist themselves against Black people. Why should I come to THEIR rescue. 2. Can't speak for other regions of the nation but in Detroit which has a large Arab population, most of the older people will tell you that the Jewish merchants who occupied Black neighborhoods were nicer and treated Black folks with more respect than most of the Arab business owners who took over afterwards. 3. When you go to Israel, although there is racism.....there is a lot of Black/African Israelites there as citizens of the nation, in the military, on the police force, and I believe in the government. How many Black folks do the Palestinians have on THEIR Police force and militias? 4. If you study the history of that land far back enough.....you'll find out that NEITHER the Arabs NOR the Jews NOR the Israelites are it's ORIGINAL inhabitants. The ORIGINAL inhabitants of that land were a Black people called Kena'ani .....translated into English as "Canaanites". 5. Then I can point to the treatment of Black Africans in many Arab and Berber norther African nations like Tunisia and Libya. So what's my point? I think it's unproductive for Black people in general.....even if they aren't AfroAmerican but are Latino or African like Ilhan Omar.....to get involved in the "anti-Israel" debate. We know a lot of Jews and Arabs have been racist toward Black people and have participated in the Slave Trade so our people aren't in a position right now to "take sides". John Henry Clarke said that AfroAmericans "had no friends". You call yourself "taking sides" and "standing against oppression" by backing the Palestinians and then they come over here and start shooting Black kids down in liquor stores and molesting the girls. Just like the same Latinos Black folks sat up and fought to get into the nation and recognized as citizens will turn around and take your job, take over your schools, and run you out the damn neighborhood. Black politicians need to focus on BLACK issues. Let the White Gentiles and Arabs hold their own nuts when it comes to Israel and Jewish power.

I was really coasting along with you.....until you made THIS statement, lol. I believe a Reality is real regardless as to who is in it or not. Participation may change the environment but not the authenticity of a given place.

frankster All these man made stuff from where does man get the material to make these artificial stuff? Where they got the material from is im-MATERIAL....lol (pun intended).😆 The fact that it's man made in my opinion means it's no longer "natural". When a bird or wasp make a nest is that part of nature or artificial? It's not artificial. And yes, I would consider it part of nature. It was made, but not made by humans or Higher Intelligences. No..... in my definition you would be from and a part of Nature. Which...structurally...makes little sense. How can a person be FROM something and PART of it as the same time? The word "from" implies distance and separation. Initially you said this idea was that of the white man now you are a believer in something you thought the white man made up....Pioneer1 who woulda thought you believe in a philosophy you thought was the white man's. Can you provide a quote where I said that the idea of Beings coming from another planet and seeding the Earth was a "White man's" idea? I don't remember saying that. I believe they were Africans.....Sag-gig-ga. And they might have been. Not sure. However keep in mind that Africans aren't the ONLY Black people. The Idea of physical beings coming from space posing as gods....the idea is not foreign to Africans nor did they get it from white people. Not sure what you mean "posing as gods". Are you suggesting that Who you'd consider "real gods" didn't come from space to colonize the Earth but only beings "pretending" to be, or something? You said I posted something which I do not recollect posting they way you are presenting it....so yes Seriously. (sigh) In Delano's thread: How can you tell if something is true? On page 1 Posted June 4 You said: Quote Here, you clearly stated that time may NOT exist. What did I take out of context?

Hmmm........ Interesting question. I haven't thought about it much but if I had to give an answer right off the top...... I'd have to say that of all of the movies I've seen SO FAR, it would have to be a tie between Spike Lee's Malcolm X and Marvel's Black Panther. Both movies were very inspiring and uplifting for different reasons.

No Obama isn't Black and Yes he's AfroAmerican. So....... If I provide links to prove that science supports "race"....will you finally change your position to accept that there are multiple races? Do I have your word you'll do this? If not....what's the point in going through all of the trouble for you to only rehash this argument again a few months later....lol.

I read the wiki review of the film and saw where the FBI monitored it and put it on various watch lists. Even made it's way to Hoover's desk....lol.....damn. The movie was quite entertaining but I didn't see anything threatening or even inspiring about it.

Well, Atlanta is the home of Black wealth in the U.S. The entire Atlanta area is a Black metropolis and haven for Black wealth. My question is what are the Black folks in Georgia doing while the White racists in Georgia are sitting up making all these damn rules and regulations? The same question goes for states like Mississippi and Alabama and the Carolinas and Lousiana.....all states with very high Black populations but the White Republicans run the damn show.

Troy These two statements cannot be supported by anything other than your opinion. Of course, there are genetically determined differences between men and women. However, to assert for example that an AfroAmerican man is genetically less predisposed to monogamy that a White American is, with all due respect to a long-term financial supporter of this site, ridiculous. Lol... Well how much financial support would it take for "all DUE respect" to mean AGREEING with everything I said? I do believe that AfroAmerican men are genetically less predisposed to monogamy than White American man. Collectivley speaking, we have more testosterone than them....which means we generally have a higher sex drive. The only reasons you find the statement ridiculous and PROBABLY a bit offensive is because of your Westernized views of sex, monogamy, and promiscuity. You PROBABLY believe being monogamous with a low sex drive is some how more virtuous and "civil" than a man who has multiple partners and a very high sex drive. Again, I say PROBABLY because most men and especially most women who are raised in this society believes this. I no longer believe this. I believe a high testosterone rate as well as the high sex drive that goes with it are HONORABLE traits. Traits that shouldn't be hidden or ashamed of but should be bragged about. Notice how it IS natural for most men to brag about the number of women they have sex with. They have to be indoctrinated to see virtue in CELIBACY.

Well said, as usual........ Although I don't have an answer to your (most likely rhetorical) question, I do have a RESPONSE: Perhaps we shouldn't look for Black folks en mass to close ranks and fight, but expect for certain groups to protect themselves in the face of global racism. When I started seeing THIS shit: I woke up, got off the couch, and put the day dreaming aside. Now it's not so much about trying to unite ALL or even MOST Black folks, but uniting a CRITICAL MASS of intelligent Black people of like minds to establish and protect whatever community and environment we choose to focus our energies on.

frankster Please explain your disagreement? Well, for one.....you believe the ENTIRE Physical Universe is Nature, no? I don't believe this. I believe things that are man-made...artificial...(clearly a part of the Physical Universe) are NOT part of Nature. How are you not from Nature? I don't know....lol. Because I believe I AM from Nature. I said, ACCORDING TO YOUR DEFINITION...I'm not "from" it....but still "apart" of it. How about aliens from outer space came to earth as gods... I believe Advanced Beings from another Galaxy came to this planet and seeded it. I'll refrain from using names and titles. This tends to add to confusion and disagreement. Africans founded Sumer/Sumeria/Shinar according to some historians....if that be the case then its African BLACK people founded it. Whether they came from Africa or another part of Asia, I'm not sure. However I believe they were from another part of Asia. No....That's not what we were discussing - we are discussing that you thought that white people invented the following idea...Now you are saying the Ancients from all races taught this........Thats a flip. I quote: "I actually want to believe that the REAL identity of the Anunnaki were the original Black men and women of that area and as usual the Caucasian interpreters put a spin on it to make them seem like "gods who came from another planet". How is that a "flip" when I actually CLARIFIED my understanding of who I believe the Anunnaki actually were? I believe Advanced Beings came from another planet and seeded this one. I don't believe...at this point...that the Anunnaki were these Beings. The general idea that they were "beings/gods from outer space" is where the similarity lies. If you want to connect the two stories based on "similarities"....then you might as well go grab your Bible and throw Genesis in there as well. There are "similar" stories there too. We're not looking for more stories and similarities, we're searching for the TRUTH. If someone got their house broken into and they're looking for the suspect so they can get their valuables back- .....they ain't trying to sit there all day listening to you run down a list of "similar" people who committed "similar" crimes. "Ok, let's start with Charles Manson. He broke into a home similar to yours but he actually killed people and...." They want to know if you have THE SUSPECT with YOUR VALUABLES. If not....keep searching. We can find "similar" stories all day, but they'll be mere entertainment for us as we look for THE TRUTH. No you did not....provide the post in context. 🤨.....seriously bro?

Well, first of all......SCIENCE isn't based on "my opinion"....but on BIOLOGICAL FACTS. Because race is a scientific category....it's supported by BIOLOGICAL FACTS. Just like the difference between MALES and FEMALES are based on BIOLOGICAL FACTS, not opinions or political correctness. This "anybody can be of any race" mess is nothing but a scheme for White youth to steal the Black identity and get their Reparations money later. But to answer your question: NO Rock Newman OBVIOUSLY isn't "Black" racially.....regardless of his ancestry/background. However he IS an AfroAmerican. AfroAmerican is his ethnicity and cultural heritage. As far as Walter White.....that's a STRAIGHT UP White man. I don't give a damn what he "calls" himself, lol. As long as people have mouths or can write....they can call themselves whatever they want. But those in authority with knowledge and good sense will continue to enforce biological identity.

frankster True In the African philosophical understanding of a Holographic Universe it is not so much a Projection but more of The same or similar process on a different scale. A magnification? I personally believe that there are Realms that include most of what we have in THIS Realm but they are of much better quality and contains much more THAN this Reality. This Reality is just a FRACTION of what many other Realities contain. Further, I believe that much of what we DO have in this Reality was copied from higher Realities. But I'm not going to call it a "hologram". The Reason they are called Realities are because they are Real once one has entered a specific Reality.....but the attributes of each Reality will often differ. True, they often differ but I'll say that a particular Reality doesn't depend on one entering it for it to be Real.

I still remember seeing that dude back at the Source Awards getting up with his crew with his drawers hanging out coming on stage just to diss Puffy and push Death Row, lol. He looked semi-retarded like he was slobbering at the mouth.

I have to wonder what percentage of street money actually went for productive causes like paying for a good education, buying a nice home, or starting a legitimate business.

I know people, but I'm not acquainted with street life enough to know the full story of a lot of gangsters and their success. I used to see pimps on the streets when I was a kid, but the Crack Era pretty much put an end to that. The state lottery system put an end to the numbers game. From what I understand, pimps still exist but they are mostly NON-Black and traffic women internationally. The only illegal business I've heard a lot of Black folks are still making money in is dope. However I don't personally know any kingpins or cartel leaders of ANY race....let alone Black folks on that level. Most Black folks I've known in the game from what I see and what they've talked about....have been relatively SMALL TIME meaning they made less than a million dollars a year. I've never been that hungry or desperate, however it just doesn't seem worth it to face being killed by a rival, jail time, and a lifetime of avoiding enemies and "pay back" for such a small amount of money. And just regular gang banging (what many "gangsters" do) and set tripping REALLY doesn't make any sense.....to me. I understand some people grow up in certain neighborhoods where it's required, but to CHOOSE that lifestyle knowing where it will lead.....makes none.

Give me a mansion, some women to keep me company, and a lifetime of all expenses paid....and I'm game!

I second ProfD's point about them being dumb asses.....lol. Dumb as hell. Because if they WEREN'T so dumb (low intelligence) then they wouldn't be so easily manipulated. How else would you describe a person who literally EATS laundry detergent pods for views? Smart people aren't easily manipulated. Also, smart people don't just look at the rewards they get for these challenges but they also weigh the risks as well as the long term consequences as a result of these challenges. You can get a million views stacking up a set of milk crates to climb up and down....but what good are those views and the little money you get from them if you end up seriously injured from the tumble? That little money won't even cover your doctor's bills. A 50 year old running around in a shopping mall pulling pranks on people for views on Youtube like a fool and runs up on the WRONG person to prank- "Hold up...hold up....wait a minute....hold on......." ....and now his family has to launch a Go Fund Me to pay for his funeral expenses

richardmurray Also, let us not confused Black LEADERS with Black SPOKES PERSONS. A Black LEADER actually LEADS. They can make a call and others will heed their call and follow them and go where they say go and do what they say do. That's a leader. Minister Farrakhan is one. Tariq Nasheed is one. We do have LEADERS to various degrees. Then you have Black SPOKES PERSONS. They are basically people who can sound give and give good speeches and articulate the issues, but don't have a lot of command over the behavior of the people. Jesse Jackson is one. Al Sharpton is another. Kanye West is another. Larry Elder is another. Just good at talking and articulating the problem but don't have enough command over the people to actually get them to do something.

ProfD They were negative as hell, but Death Row had a lot of talent and promise. I think even Jodeci was getting close to signing on to Death Row Records. I think it really went downhill after they brought Tupac aboard, because he had issues getting along with the other artists.

frankster The phenomena of the Physical Universe in its entirety. Oh. Well then, I disagree with YOUR definition of "nature". However I can answer your questions: Are you FROM Nature? According to YOUR definiton of Nature, no. I'm PHYSICAL body is not "from" Nature but STILL IN Nature. Are you IN Nature? As mentioned above....according to YOUR definition of Nature, my PHYSICAL body is in nature. Are you a Part of Nature? According to YOUR definition of Nature, my PHYSICAL body is part of nature. But again, I don't agree with YOUR definition of nature. But thanks for providing it for the sake of clarity. Is that what you do? Like Giving white people credit that rightfully belongs to Africans. Do you have an example of an idea or philosophy that CLEARLY came from Africa that I gave White people credit for? I'm not talking about SHARED ideas of which the origins are obscure...but ideas that without a doubt were found among Africans first? Excluding "time not existing" which we have yet to ascertained where the idea originated in this thread...and St Germaine. All the others are African and Ancient.....And I have shown that. So the beliefs about the Anunnaki are "African" you say???? That's funny, because I thought Anunnaki was a Sumerian term. Cool....so the idea of alien beings coming from another planet to earth as so called gods is neither new age or white contrary to your assertions. No. The ancients of ALL the races...including the Africans...taught this. What I'm questioning is the specific story of the Anunnaki as whether or not THEY were alien or actual humans mislabeled as such by White interpreters of Sumerian script. As we just heard the same or similar story from the mouth of an African Shaman. Did he say they were the SAME as the Anunnaki? You have yet to show where I said that. Lol.....man, I just showed you in that cat reference.

frankster The way in which Reality is Created in this Physical experience is Shared in others words on some level of Consciousness it is agreed upon. It is a limitation Constructed through agreement so that Physicality can be experienced. I too have heard that this is a "shared Reality" or "shared experience". That we came to this Reality and agreed to some of it's conditions and circumstances, so I agree with the above statement. It is now accepted that theoretically time travel is possible....if true the sequencing of time is no longer sacrosanct. It was always known among the ancients that time travel was possible and was often practiced. If you look at time in this world, think of a roll of film for a movie. If you want to go into the future you just speed it up and roll out further...or go backwards to and look at the clips of the past. But again, I still believe this is BEYOND human "creation". Humans can PARTICIPATE in it...but doesn't mean they created it. Kind of like children can play in a McDonald's playhouse...but they didn't create it. On that we will then have to agree to disagree Well, before you agree to DISagree, consider this..... There are multiple PEOPLE who dream, right? So why would it be so hard for you to believe that each dreamer dreams in their own Reality? Or do you believe that just like humans share THIS Reality, there's another SINGLE Reality in the dream world that all humans share? When you dream you usually enter multiple Realities in just ONE night. Yes ? So why did you disagree with me earlier? Overlapping realities is being aware of Consciousness existing in two of many of its realities. While this is highly possible and happens, what I meant by "overlapping Realities" is that from what I understand....most people don't dream about the SAME Reality every night. They dream about one group of multiple Realities one night....and another group of multiple Realities another night. Sometimes they may dream about the SAME Reality on two consecutive nights or in one week or even the same night, but usually most people dream about different Realities. As Above so below is African and has been around for thousand of years...said to be coined by Thoth an Egyptian (God) As above so below is a basic description of a hologram MY UNDERSTANDING (and I could be wrong) of a hologram is that it's the projected reflection and image of the original thing. One is real and authentic....the other is just an empty image or reflection. One of the reasons I don't ascribe to that hologram theory is that although everything in THIS Reality can be found in other Realities....what's in THIS Reality is just as real as what's found in other Realities and not a mere projection or image.