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Troy I never read the Origin of Species, so I don't know if he was spewing racist propoganda, but if he was a man of his time he probably was. In any event the average 12th grader, from a half way descent school, knows more about genetics than Darwin possibly could. Why linger on 19th century ideas today? Well the title alone speaks volumes even if you never opened the book. If the title talks about "favored races" then that in itself suggests racism. But the reasons why point out the Theory of Evolution's racist origins is important today is because most of the so-called civilized educated world BELIEVES in it! And they either consciously or subconsciously believe that Africans are inferior in part BECAUSE of this theory. You keep trying to separate the theory from it's racist origins, but you can't. Consider the gene that results in a sickness like sickle cell. If the person with sickle cell is a genius does that make him superior or inferior to a dumb person without sicke cell? Some would argue that sickle cell anemia isn't really a sickness but natures way of fighting malaria. According to science, it was found mostly among West Africans in a region where those who DIDN'T have the sickle cell trait would often die of malaria. But in my opinion a genius IS intellectually superior to a dumb person.

If you DID list yourself as White........ You'd probably get a check in the mail a few week later with a couple hundred thousand dollars for disposable income along with a pamphlet for all of the secret amenities this society has to offer for Caucasians like where to find the best hospitals, where to find the cheapest gas, which grocery stores have the best foods, and where to find face masks and hand sanitizer! Imagine showing up to some secret underground market packed with everything you want and need at a very low price and you walk through the door and see a sea of Caucasian faces looking at you in amazement and horror as if to say, "How in the hell did HE find out about this place????"

Troy 　 Really? Do you really believe all those Black people in Flint out the lead in their own water destroying a generation of Black children Do you believe all damn near two million Black people locked up actually belong behind bars? Do you blame the shitty schools so many poor Black kids are forced to languish in is their fault too? No the AfroAmericans of Flint didn't want lead in their water, but they didn't want to control their own water supply and would rather their ENEMY control it for them. This laziness and lack of desire LEAD TO their water being poisoned. Some of those 2 million AroAmericans DO want to be behind bars because for SOME of them it's easier living in a prison where someone is feeding, clothing, and housing you and telling you what to do 24 hours a day than to figure out how to feed, clothe, and house yourself on your own. But most don't want to be there; however most of the AfroAmericans in prison didn't want to take the responsibility of controling the laws in their respective cities, states, and in this nation....the same laws that got them locked up in the first place! Most of them didn't want to be legislatures to shape the laws. Most of of the AfroAmericans in prison DON'T LIKE THE POLICE. Most of them didn't' want to become police officers and saw it as a detestable job with no honor. Since many didn't want to BE police officers, many of them ended up being locked up BY the police! Not that they are necessarily bad or did something wrong or deserved to be locked up, but because THEY didn't want the responsibility or desire to be enforces of the law....many of them became VICTIMS of it! I'll give you another example along the same lines...... Just like on most jobs you've been on most AfroAmericans are satisfied just being the EMPLOYEE but don't want to be the owner or even tne manager. They don't want the responsibility of management but will turn around and complain and cry when THEY end up being the first to get fired or laid off or otherwise disciplined by those in management who LOVE POWER. And maaaaaan, don't get me started on how negroes are the blame THEMSELVES for how shitty the educational system is! As many examples over the century as we've had of AfroAmericans establishing their own schools and educating themeslves only to abandon them and let them crumble just to integrate into Caucasian institutions....... Do you really want to go there on who the blame lays with? 　 　 　 Troy & Delano You could be the first enrollee @Pioneer1. You'd be in science classes all day. and night ???? I know a joke is in there somewhere, I'm just not sure where it is.....lol. My plans aren't to "enroll". I'm telling you now..... My plans are to apply for a position as PROFESSOR of Astrological Science! Delano will be my assistant.

Troy But it is unknowable what the world would be like today if they just played nice and did not rape, pillage, and plunder the world. I believe the so-called "fictional" Wakanda of Black Panther gives us a pretty good idea. Unlike most people who feel that Caucasian civilization uplifts and inspires people of color; I believe that is actually SLOWED and in some cases DEVIATED not only the spiritual growth but technological growth of the planet. Why you so hard on our people knowing what we are going through? Because most of the hardships our people are going through THEY put themselves through it either directly (drug use, violence, stupid behavior, ect...) or indirectly (being too lazy to govern ourselves and take responsibility for our own community welfare). AfroAmericans have been in this nation long enough (over 250 years) to have solidly established OUR OWN hospitals and medical facilities to properly treat and cure our people not only of coronavirus but the multitude of other health disorders that so many of them suffer from. Infact, AfroAmericans DID establish their own hospitals and we had our own nurse organizations about a century ago under Marcus Garvey and some others. Our people didn't have much of a choice. As soon as Caucasians started allowing us into their institutions in massive numbers, many of our people allowed ours to collapse. We Africans are much more creative than Caucasians....literally MUCH MORE CREATIVE. The number one thing that hold most African people back is their collecdtive lack of desire to be independant of Caucasian authority. This lack of desire is born out of laziness and the lack of a strong desire to do the work necessary to build our own institutions and establish our own laws. Too many of us would rather sit back and enjoy (for as long as we can) what Caucasians have established. This laziness and short sightedness is the major reason so many Africans are catching hell not only in the United States but in Africa, The Carribean, and other parts of the world. The number two thing is divisiveness and lack of unity, but that's a different subject all together.....lol. My point is, Africans have the ability to do whatever we put our minds to....so when you see our people NOT doing or accomplishing something it's usually because they don't desire it strongly enough. ....which is why I'm so hard on them. Troy I don't know what your health is like or how you feel but YOU could start YOUR own educational institution down there in Florida! You know Black students and what they need to be successful in whatever field you specialize in. While this crisis has most educational institutions on their knees right now this is a perfect opportunity for YOU to get your own academic institution up and running within 5 years and teach not only Black but ALL races of students. But I know you don't want to do that......lol.

Some people believe that Black people are UNDER counted in the U.S. Census. I believe the opposite. I believe we are OVER counted. I believe many of the people in the United States that are being called "Black" aren't aren't racially African but mixed and many are more Caucasian than African. I believe the Caucasian population in the United States hasn't declined but has actually grown. Again, these are "beliefs" but they are beliefs based personal observations.

　 Troy Yes I'm aware thisecwhites were using junk science to advance the udea of racial superiority. Well that's the actual theory of evolution! It's racist in it's very concept.....read: The subtitle of Darwin's Origin of Species is the preservation of FAVORED RACES! You can't separate the theory from it's racist origins. 　 I must have missed them. Do me a favor and pose them again. 　 According to contemporary Caucasian science, there are DOMINANT genes and RECESSIVE genes. Would it be a mistake to assume that genetically speaking, one with dominant genes would be "genetically superior" to one with recessive genes?

Troy I didn't know Tim was on this site. You should invite him to come to the Culture/Race forum from time to time so we can all chop it up! White people can not only make this country better but they can make the WORLD better by simply doing what John Browne did......using all of their available means to obstruct and counter the behavior of their evil brethren.

Let's keep things in perspective....... Living among Caucasians (meaning living in Western nations OR in predominately African nations governed by European systems) is the NUMBER ONE factor in Africans getting Covid 19! I don't think anyone could reasonably deny that if our people lived only among ourselves with no contact from Caucasians whatsoever....there would be NO CASES of Covid 19 among them. Having said that........ This is a good point that vitamin D deficiency as well as a host of other deficiencies is a major contributing factor to AfroAmericans getting Covid 19. According to science, having dark skin limits the amount of sunlight absorbed into the skin and converted into vitamin D. Which means that AfroAmericans really need more sunlight than Caucasians to generate the same amount of vitamin D. This goes with your argument in another thread that Africans are designed to live closer to the equator. But sunlight isn't the only source of vitamin D. And the fact that the diet of most AfroAmericans is so poor and misguided is a major contributing factor. I don't know if others on this site have made the same observation but when I look at different people of various races who look to be over the age of 60....AfroAmericans tend to stand out based on what I see them eating! When I see Asians or Caucasians over 60 in public the majority are sipping on coffee, eating a banana or some sort of fruit, and most of the time they're eating nothing. But I've seen so many AfroAmericans over 60 eating TACOS, BAR-B-QUE CHIPS, DORITOS, ect.....straight up junk food! There is nothing like observing a 70 year old negro with a nappy white beard sitting infront of a liquor store drinking cherry Kool-aid and eating skittles shamelessly begging for money as he grins and lets his bright red tongue just flap away! Many of our people have become a living mockery in society. Is there any wonder why Fauci is now going all over the television and internet to places like BET and the Breakfast club lecturing Black folks on their poor diet and lifestyle?

Troy Yes, I know. It is not the right word. It implies a change from a simpler to a more complex form. White people aren't more complex than or superior to Black people. Yes....and I know what YOU mean, lol. But that's not what Caucasians who came up with the concept mean. THEY mean the opposite of what you said. The concept of evolution that THEY came up with clearly implies that Caucasians are more complex and superior....regardless as to your interpretation or understanding of it. 　 Even those terms Black and white are not the correct terms because they are sloppy ways of grouping people. Using these arbitrary racial terms just makes having a meaningful conversation about people impossible I agree, which is why I usually use the terms "African" and "Caucasian". Using the wrong terms doesn't necessarily negate an argument; sometimes it just means you're trying to fix a problem using the wrong tools. Using the CORRECT and/or MORE ACCURATE terms can not only legitamize an argument and can even END certain arguments as often times the arguments are based on semantics and using correct terms aligns and syncronizes the opposing minds. Now....... Are you going to answer my questions concerning DOMINANT and RECESSIVE genes and superiority?

Troy Utopia, please, what have they contributed to the world? They live in their heterogenous white countries benefiting from the rest of the planet's productivity. Let them open their schools. Excellent point Again, caucasians are not a monolith. John Brown thought differently than an evil southern plantation owner. Racism wasn't even "a thing" a few hundred years ago. People like John Brown (and Tim Wise) are notable exceptions to the rule. This just proves that Caucasians are human and occasionally go "off script" from time to time, lol. Dynamite, I thought the Chinese came up with gun power. Well thanks Sweden for the crude application of another country's discovery Lol..... Another excellent point that I had also made to Del just before reading YOUR comments! 　 　 Del Sweden gave us Dynamite and the Nobel Peace Prize in that order How do we know this? Perhaps dynamite....like gun powder and pasta....already existed in other cultures but a European like Marco Polo upon traveling there "discovered" it and claimed it as THEIR own invention. If you read about the epics of ancient India they speak of wars and major explosions that destroyed entire cities. They must have had "something".

Troy "Evolved" is not the right word. But it's the word YOU used. You said, If they evolved "after" Black people then by deductive reasoning this means....according to you AND the theory.....that they are MORE EVOLVED. Again homo sapiens are virtually identical genetically. Less melanated skin doesn't make one homo sapien superior that another. I agree.I appreciate there are dumb people who might not accept this and believe Black people are inferior because of this. However, many of those who support the THEORY (must continue to stress this point) of Evolution hold that it's not the skin tone that makes Europeans "superior" but the BRAIN which they say is more evolved than the African brain. So what is the answer? Fighting back by using more junk science to say Black people are genetically superior? The answer depends on the question. I no longer question the Theory of Evolution or it's consequences, I out right REJECT it as a racist lie. So for me it's pretty much a non-issue. As far as whether or not Black people are genetically superior..... According to contemporary Caucasian science, there are DOMINANT genes and RECESSIVE genes. Would it be a mistake to assume that genetically speaking, one with dominant genes would be "genetically superior" to one with recessive genes?

Troy Lol.... That's like asking do wolves have anything better to do than stalk sheep. This IS what they do! If one of the white supremacists who are monitoring this site would dare be honest with you they might step out of the shadow and into the light in plain view and say: "My dear fellow.... Why would we NOT monitor your site? This is a literary website. It hosts and attracts the authors, poets, ect...among the most educated of your community. THOSE are the nigg....I mean....hah.....negroes that WE want to keep an eye on! Why would we waste time monitoring "Booty-Fullo-Dookie" and "Lil Gangsta Mamaz Fo Yo Azz" sites populated by thugs, weed heads, and sexually confused freaks of nature who.....when they're not beefing with eachother and threatening to kill eachother....can only talk about how to roll a blunt with one hand or whether or not vaseline should be used for blow jobs? What threat do THEY pose to our rule? They are already dysfunctional, so we aren't concerned about them or what they think unless we desire some half-time amusement...lol. No, Mr. Negro...we're interested in the intellectuals....the intelligencia! Why, you should consider yourself HONORED that you have our attention!" Miracles happen. They happen all the time. Maybe one day one WILL break protocol, step out of the shadows, and prove me correct....lol.

Troy & Maurice Caucasian racists are actually being paid to troll and monitor websites around the internet to not only stir up trouble but to keep an eye on what's happening with the people. There are lurkers on THIS site that Troy mentioned a few months ago who have registered but never post anything and he asked why. They just do that for monitoring purposes. Earlier in this thread people ask WHY someone would just hang around websites 10 or 15 hours a day seeing who posts what and keeping tabs....that's boring.....that doesn't make any sense. People should realize that it may be boring to THEM and may not make sense to THEM if they aren't a White Supremacist with a larger goal in mind. But it makes total sense to those who see it as part of a larger strategy.

Troy Yes, caucasians evolved to be better suited to live in the northern climates they migrated to. While Black people are better suited to live near the equator. This still basically means that Caucasians are "more evolved" than Africans. Which indirectly means that Africans are LESS EVOLVED.....and closer to the simian ancestors that produced both humans and apes in Africa. Do you understand how this could be problematic for a society that accepts this? It pretty much justifies not only much of the historic mistreatment of Africans by regulating them to a sub-human or "not quite AS human" status, but it sets the stage for further mistreatment. Why should that be surprising? You can't say you don't believe in something unless you know what it is Very wise position to take. Delano Science is from the Latin scion to know. Religion is based on belief. So belief and knowing are by definition in opposition. Knowledge and belief aren't necessarily opposites of eachother. They can contradict OR overlap You can merely believe something without knowing it for sure. But if you KNOW something you must also believe it too.

....so what's new? I'm waiting to see a headline: "Black Scientist Comes Up with Cure For Covid 19!" That indeed would be news.

Queen X Africa is a beautiful place as long as Europeans stay out of there bringing their experiments along with their diseases as well One could actually say the same thing about the ENTIRE PLANET.....lol. For the sake of conversation....... The Honorable Elijah Muhammad taught that Black civilization was declining long before Caucasians arrived on the scene. He said it started about 50,000 years ago.....right about the time Black people left Asia and started going deep or deeper into Africa and turned into what we call Africans today. I believe it was said that our people didn't even eat meat UNTIL we went down into Africa. I'm not sure how true that is. My point is...... As beautiful as we BELIEVE Africa was before the arrival of the Caucasian, perhaps there was quite a bit of chaos and foolishness going on among our people even before they came into existence.

Troy This is not white supremacy at work. The is greed, narcissism, sociopathy, and stupidity at work. What do you think DRIVES white supremacy....if not greed, sociopathy, and narcissism? They don't mind sacrificing eachother for a larger purpose. In many of the protests that are going on around the nation you see some people holding up signs saying that society should open back up because covid 19 is just Darwinism at work so that the elderly and weaker among them will die. This is the way they think! Even more diabolical....... In parts of Europe like Denmark and Sweden (places many Caucasians and even a few foolish negroes love to hold up as utopian societies) , they are opening schools back up before the numbers of covid 19 cases have even declined and are now letting little children play around without gloves or masks KNOWING that they are spreading the virus and a number of them will get sick and die. Why? Because they see it as the quickest way to getting back to "normal" and they are all on board with this "sacrifice". You must acquaint yourself with how Caucasians think......REALLY think.

Troy Need does not equal Demand. We need better schools for poor Bkack children. Presumably there is insufficient demand for them. Our nation's infrastructure needs maintenance, but apparently there is inadequate demand to effect the repairs You make a great point. The need is clearly there, but the demand isn't strong enough in the larger community and sadly enough....not even in the AfroAmerican community. BTW..... Actually alligators were one of the first things I thought of when I saw that picture but forgot to mention them. You DO know that alligators can jump, right? You can see alligators FROM the window but have you considered one THROUGH your window? Your home or atleast your office is so close to that swamp, one of them mugs might take a notion to leap right in....lol.

Troy For someone who doesn't believe re-incarnation, you sure do have a pretty good grasp on one of it's purposes. However, keep in mind that a person who chooses to live an evil life......repeatedly....is STILL engaging in the learning processes and contributes to their "spiritual evolution". So simply returning doesn't necessarily discourage one from doing wrong. Lol, now on to something I don't believe in........ The belief that White people are more evoloved than Black people is one of the major reasons I don't support the theory. The concept is fundamentally racist as it holds Caucasians as a "better product" and Black people as a "rough draft" of humanity before it got right.

Troy No I don't. If I did, I would not believe that all evil white people would come back as another evil white person (smile) Well if they were evil when they left.....why wouldn't they be evil when they came back?

Troy So why do they keep saying that Black people did not support Bernie Sanders. I would have voted for Bernie over Biden and Biden and I went to the same university. Because most AfroAmerican (including myself) don't trust Bernie Sanders. Now I and many AfroAmericans KNOW why we don't trust him, but most other AfroAmericans don't know why.....but they just don't by instinct. Sadly, I do believe you are right about people wanting benefits for themselves while excluding others. This is a highly cynical perspective that I do not relish holding, but I've seen to many examples of this. Look at all the hording going on. I know people have gone into a store and purchased all of the toilet paper, water hand sanitizer available. The stores had to stop people form doing this so that other could get these products... Why else would one not everyone to be covered with medical insurance. I'm glad you recognize this. This is why I was saying in other thread that you must first ACCEPT racism before trying to UNDERSTAND it. You were forced to ACCEPT the fact that many Caucasians would gladly allow themselves to die from lack of coverage if it means making sure people of color are also denied coverage. You didn't want to accept it at first....because it didn't make any sense...buy after seeing so many examples of it you were FORCED to accept it. You should apply these examples to other aspect of society when it comes to race relations. Sure the public education system is jacked up for poor Black people, but some education is better than none. The time when one with a grade school education could earn enough to survive on was during a time when virtually no one went to college and skilled trades were in demand. I didn't say AfroAmerican children were better off without an education. I said that maybe they were better off not going to these SCHOOLS. You can get a thorough education without stepping foot into a classroom. Furthermore, skills and skilled trades are VERY MUCH in high demand right now. Infact, they are in higher demand and needed much more today than they were 100 years ago. They are just not needed in Caucasian communities. In most AfroAmerican communities like Detroit, Baltimore, North Philadelphia, ect......where the buildings and roads and other infrastructure are crumbling and not much is being done about it, they are in EXTREMELY HIGH DEMAND. Men and women with the skills and equipment needed to come in and repair or replace so there is there is plenty of work to be done and you don't need a college or even highschool education to do most of it. All you need to be is relatively healthy and can read, write, and count on a 8th grade level. The problem is, most AfroAmericans are waiting on Caucasians to initiate the work before they engage in it.

Chev Is this what it means to click-bait!? Well, since I cannot give you a refund, I will have to make some other kind of amends, perhaps later. LMAO Well sis, I patiently await....as I expect you to keep your promise! 　 Really!? That's a new one for me. I am now wondering why. Do tell Human beings are genetically wired to seek mating with other humans that are far from their own gene pool. This helps to ensure that the genes aren't too close together from the same family and ensures that the offspring are stronger and healthier. Remember in another thread we talked about incest and how a lot of Euorpeans had problems like retardation and deformities because of mating too close with other family members over and over again for centuries. Infact, this is one of the reasons so-called "Neanderthals" existed. Back in the cave days many of them were living alone in the same areas and were screwing their sisters and mammas and aunts and this went on in the same isolated pockets for centuries pretty much making big headed "monster babies" and other freaks from these incestuous relationships. Moses had to go up their and put an end to that foolishness and civilize the cave dwellers. The opposite of incest is mating with those from other families and lands. And you get the opposite effect. Instead of big headed freaks you get well formed often attractive people. So when you hear someone with an accent that is a signal that they aren't from your area and most likely isn't part of your family, clan, or tribe. Subconsciously you realize they are a healthy source to mate with and it makes them "sexy".

Chev I cannot at this time, understand even this. The reason you must accept it FIRST before trying to understand it is because this acceptance may save your life and the lives of your family. Let me draw an analogy that may make it easier for you to understand...... You told your young children NOT to play in the street or even cross the street because it's too dangerous. I'm sure that at first you didn't go into great detail trying to get them to understand WHY it was dangerous. Your FIRST priority was to get them to ACCEPT that it was dangerous and obey your rules regardless as to whether they understood them or not. It doesn't matter whether they understood them or agreed to them.....just ACCEPT that they are what they are and obey them so they can live long enough to maybe understand them later.

Chev Wait a minute--Why would they NOT want to re-open!? That makes no sense to me. Because Trump and most of the Repubicans in office are smart educated people (they just act like they're not) and they know that opening up businesses and allowing the public to mingle with eachother too soon will spread the virus and cost more lives. But their BASE is ignorant. The base of Trump and the Republican party are poor half-educated Caucasians who smoke packs of cigarettes a day and don't give a damn about thier health or even their lives. They just want to get out and do what they want to do. So Trump and the Republicans who just want to get re-elected play to THEM and THEIR desires and PRETEND to want to open everything back up so that they'll continue to get that support. But most educated people regardless of party affiliation known that's a mistake whether they say it or not. This isn't the first time politicians played to the ignorance of the public. Back 60 or 70 years ago the dead racist Strom Thurmond of South Caronina was running against a man for senate and he kept telling the various crowds he spoke to that he heard from multiple sources that his opponent was a practicing "HOMOSAPIENS"....lol. He didn't lie...lol. But he knew his base was ignorant and didn't know "homosapiens" from "homosexual" and that the ignorant and stupid among them would assume this meant his opponent was a practicing homosexual. This is just one of many many examples of how the ignorance and stupidity of a sociey is used against their own interests.

If AfroAmerican healthcare workers aren't the ones actually carrying out these tests, then we shouldn't be in a big hurry to see them anyway. I'm not saying where this virus came from or who it's being given to but..... Why would you trust the same people who GAVE you the disease to TEST you for it? Troy This nation's "priorities" is the CORRECT term! Many people think the lack of equipment and testing is a sign of this nation's incompetence or lack of coordinated efforts between the state and federal governments. But that's far from the truth. The ability to test everyone and supply everyone with the proper equipment certainly exists. It's the DESIRE to do so that is lacking and what our PRIORTIES are that is effecting who get's what. Their PRIORITIES (in this case profit and popularity comes before saving lives) is what's pushing some governors to want to "open up" their states before it is safe to do so.