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Any Africans or West Indians or AfroLatinos out there who have a desire to come in and sit down with their AfroAmerican family? As you can see @frankster.......... Nobody is stopping other Black people from the Diaspora from coming among us and dialoging and connecting....if that's what they WANT to do. This is a free forum. There's no charge to join it. Infact, a lot of Africans and West Indians are authors of books and this site would be a good place for them to promote their books. Who's holding them back? What has held them back?

frankster First it is divivise.....It teaches at its core that we are not Black Africans - which is a basic Lie. Many of them are right. Despite their motives of not wanting to be associated with Africa, many of those who represent and promote the FBA movement are actually correct because many so-called Black Americans actually are NOT Black Africans Many AfroAmericans like Dr. Claude Anderson and the late great Neely Fuller Jr. are more White than they are Black....genetically speaking. They are AfroAmerican by heritage and culture and are our people, but they aren't the same "race" as Tyrese or Oprah or Michael Jordan. This racial/genetic difference is important because it explains how people of the same ethnicity may still see, experience, and process things differently based on their genetic make-up. If we accept the Premise that we are not Africans then it provides support for the idea that we have no justifiable reasons to work togather. You have a good point of which I agree with. It Prioritizes Domestic issues over International Collaborations.... Now this is a GOOD thing in my opinion because we as AfroAmericans really SHOULD be getting our house in order as best we reasonably can FIRST before attempting to connect with and network with other groups who are in a worse condition. How can we help those when we haven't helped ourselves? If you attempt to hook up with and work with others before getting your own shit together first, this often makes you vulnerable to be exploited by others. Do not understand the question.... They Purpose Aim and Goal of ADOS/FBA is to prevent a working relationship between People of the African Diaspora. According to YOU. According to ADOS, their primary goal is to seek Reparations. According to FBA, their primary goal is to delineate and promote and PRIORITIZE Black Americans and our issues first OVER others but not necessarily to prevent working with them. But the question again is how has the FBA or ADOS movement weakened the Black race globally? Yes it has exposed divisions and perhaps widened divisions that already existed, but how has it WEAKENED the Black race? For example, can you show evidence how the FBA or ADOS movements have made Black people poorer, caused more violence directed at Black people, caused Black people to lose businesses or political offices? Pan AFricanism has gotten us all the freedoms we now enjoy both here and elswhere. I'm not sure of that. AfroAmerican organizing and fighting has gotten US as AfroAmericans the benefits that we currently enjoy. And although the majority of the fight done by Black South Africans, pressure FROM AfroAmericans also helped them to end Apartheid in South Africa. Our Civil Rights movements have inspired Black people around the planet to have more pride in themselves and become more politically active. However, except for a few West Indian individuals like Marcus Garvey and Minister Farrakhan....and except for the Haitian Revolution which was over 200 years ago....what have OTHER Black people in the Diaspora either individually or collectively done to help AfroAmericans? That is not growth....That is the commercialization(promotion and advertising) of hate and distrust among Black Africans - Degradation and Degeneration Tariq Nasheed did a film recently called "Microphone Check" in which he documents and details the FBA origins and foundations of Hip Hop music. Can you explain to me how THIS promotion and commercialization of FBA heritage has promote hate and denigration of other Black people? What is new is that racist are trying to use money to drive a division among us Lol....that is NOT new. Racists have been using resources to divide Black people for generations. No No you seemed to be ignoring the fact that I have already stated that both sides have ignoramuses in them....and we should not follow their example. I haven't ignored it. What I'm taking issue with is the fact that you seem to be "evening" or "leveling" the blame for the lack of unity among the Diasporan community instead of properly laying most of the weight of the blame where it should be....non-Black Americans. Outside of the White racists who are the MOST to blame for the lack of unity among our people, those who are second most responsible would be other Black ethnicities who don't carry the mantle of Pan-Africanism and see themselves as individual based on their tribes or religions first. Black Americans are one of the few Black groups who prioritize being Black and uniting on that basis above other identities. So now you are going to reinforce that stupidity by doing the same or following them by separating yourself...thereby helping to accomplish the aims of the racist Again, we are already separate....culturally speaking. However the delineation comes from so many of THEM isolating themselves from US and not prioritizing their Blackness the way WE do. How many Black Africans or Black West Indians are on this site willing to just talk with us casually? The blame game....They started it - so lets continue it Anytime you have a pandemic or epidemic that effects the entire community or globe...in order to solve it you usually have to look for it's origins. Its is not a fact...because we are more united and have always been that way.. I see it everyday....how we all get along and intermarry. I don't see Black Americans and Africans marrying every day. I see them getting along NOW more than they did 20 or even 15 years ago, but I don't see what you're talking about. Yes focus on your community....The Black African Community. If you want to go there, YOU said that ALL people are Africans....lol. So why just focus on the BLACK African community? Why not be a TRUE Pan-Africanist and focus on all of humanity???? Yes...but not during the immigration process' From in their respective homelands in their homes from Movies Magazines TV series BillBoards Product Covers or wrappings and Newspaper Produced Written and Promoted to them ......by racist owned Media. Informing then that they themselves are Lazy Sick Ugly and Ignorant just like their counterparts In the US.....self hate Can you give me some examples? Say a list of 5.....movies, magazines, billboards, etc....from the last 20 years promoted in Africa that portray AfroAmericans specifically in a negative light? You Haven't???? lol I do not know if I should realy answer this because you must not be a black person! Lol..... You're starting to sound like Joe Biden now. "If you can't figure out whether you should vote for me or Donald Trump.... then YOU AIN'T BLACK" Whether I'm actually Black or not shouldn't prevent YOU from naming these videos I keep hearing about that has brainwashed these Africans into not liking or trusting Black Americans. From what they've told me it's often times THEIR OWN FAMILY members teaching them this shit, not some damn movie or video. Dude you seriously....do not know how to recognize propaganda? That is why you reason like you do. We can cut out all the drama and get to name dropping. In the past 20 years....what movies or videos are they showing to Africans to get them to think negatively about AfroAmericans? LOL....I will give you a peak and the one of the most blatant one and you should go watch it..... Most today are Subliminal and Implicit Birth of a Nation.... Man, that movie is over 100 years old! Most AMERICANS haven't even seen that damn movie, let alone Africans....lol. Go listen to every thing Charlie Kirk say and espouse about or in regard to Black Africans....that whats fed to Black African Community Globally as truth I'm only vaguely family with Charlie Kirk's work and propaganda. It is my understanding that most of his events and speeches dealt with issues in America and in American politics. Did he do a lot of work in Africa as well? That would indeed be shocking. I'm trying to get you to see how big of a role other Black people in the Diaspora THEMSELVES play in promoting the hatred and division you see in the greater Black nation. You want to blame nearly all of it on White folks and FBA/ADOS but White in many case through out history White folks have merely taken advantage of the fractures and divisions that have already existed among Black people...including pre-colonial Africa.

Back in my teens and 20s, I wouldn't have believed that I would feel so obliged or dedicated to people I wasn't related to or something I wasn't getting paid to do. But as we know, things and often attitudes and mentalities change with time. Now if I spend an extended amount of time away from AALBC whether it's a few days, a few weeks, or a couple months.....I feel OBLIGATED to go back and as best I can respond to all posts directed at me or about me. And also, if time permits....address posts that grab my interest even if they weren't directed at me. And it appears that most of you seem to feel the same way. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ And by the way let me thank @Troy for providing this space for us to do so. It's been a while since I sent a token of my appreciation because I've had new personal obligations to focus my resources on these past few years, but your treasures are building up. Trust me 😉 _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ I suppose it's just human nature; however knowing this makes me feel good, proud, and hopeful. Why? It shows me that there are certain feelings, emotions, and drives that are just innate in human nature that guarantees that no human society will degrade down past a certain level. We will never get so selfish and individualistic AS A COMMUNITY where we simply ignore eachother and focus on our own issues and promotions. Some will, but the vast majority will not. There are certain ways we relate to other human beings that seem to be "in" us; ingrained in our psyche. These are the traits a progressive well functioning society should be built on and modeled after. Characteristics that agree with basic human nature.

Chev I guess the most important input from me would be that, when it comes to ancient script, whether it is from ancient Egyptian records, ancient Sumerian, ancient Chinese, ... the Linear B script, Ugarit, etc. all of it must be confirmed with science. What mean is that certain words are 'anchors' and must be confirmed with the planet earth and also 'the sky'. For this reason, it doesn't matter whether the words are translated from cuneiform script, Arabic script, Egyptian hieroglyphs, etc., all translations go back to some origin. I don't understand this part. Why do you say all translations go back to the "same origin"??? The name 'Adam' is defined in the Bible [KJV] for meaning, I think, 'servant of God' [I can't remember for sure]. The word Adam (from the word "dm" which means "blood") literally means one of two things: OF BLOOD or LIKE BLOOD Red or reddish White people aren't actually white in color but rather pink and in the Middle East they are usually red from the heat. However, this name carries a whole lot of other word origins and meanings too. In most modern translations, for example, the ancient letter 'h' has been omitted from so many ancient words and this is insanely crucial to understand the significance in the past as opposed to today. Today, that letter may not mean much, but eventually, it will probably surface again and shed much more information about how ancient mankind regarded themselves in terms of being 'a spiritual being' as well as a physical being. The ancient word 'Adam' in some text would have been written as 'Adham' or 'Ahdama' or 'Adamah', and etc. But Adamah is a different word than Adam Adamah means ground or dirt. Some say it means "red ground" or "red dirt". But it's a different word than Adam The Biblical name of Seth, the third son of Adam and Chevah [Eve] is also spelled 'Sheth' in the Bible. The name 'Japheth' is sometimes spelled 'Yapheth'. Shem is sometimes spelled 'Sem' and Ham is sometimes spelled 'Cham', etc. Correct. One of the reasons for this is because as you know in Hebrew for a long time the VOWELS weren't written in words. Only the constantans. So when those who weren't familiar with HEARING the Hebrew words being pronounced would write them....they'd pronounce them the way THEY thought they were pronounced instead of the actually way the ancients pronounced them. The name 'Cham' would also be defined in association to 'Kemet' or 'Khem' or 'Cham' in association to 'black earth' in the region of Kemet in the land of Egypt and Northeast Africa. The name 'Seth' would also be defined in association to 'Ra' or 'the sun' and in ancient script, this name correlated to 'the South world' or 'Seth world'. The name 'Japheth' correlates to the word 'Ja-Petah' or 'Ptah' and 'Egypetah', 'Gupta', etc. and also correlated to 'black earth' or Egypt. The name was originally Yapet but became Yapeth, Yapheth, Japeth and it's also where the word JUPITER comes from. It's the name of a planet today, but it came from the Roman high deity Jupiter. There is reason to believe that Yapeth...being a descendant of Noah....when he went West to establish the cultures and nations of Europe like Rome and Greece....being a founding father of ancient Rome he was deified as Jupiter. So, this name 'Adam' and the phrase 'Son of Man' has to be regarded in context of whatever script or passage that uses it. The term 'Son of Man' refers to 'Jesus Christ' in the New Testament: The problem with the New Testament is that there is reason to believe that much of it has not only mistranslated but actually MADE UP. The New Testament was written by Greek and Jewish scholars trained in Greek, many of them didn't even know the original meanings behind the words and terms you find in the Old Testament themselves. So they didn't accurately translate them and in many cases applied a totally different understanding to them. The term "son of man" used in the book of Daniel and Ezekiel....which again really means "child of Adam" is often used as a RACIAL distinction between the descendants of Adam (red man or white man) and the rest of the population of that region who were brown skinned. Ezekiel was referred to as "son of man" Ezekiel 2: 1 "And he said unto me, Son of man, stand upon thy feet, and I will speak unto thee." Daniel said he saw one who LOOKED LIKE a "son of man" approaching the Ancient of Days Daniel 7: 13 " I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him." The meaning these men used for that term was clearly different than the understanding most Christians have of it today.

I read a story where one of her security staff was shot and killed down in Texas yesterday.

One of the reasons I wanted to share this video was because of a couple of recent events that happened over the past week or two. The incident down in Austin Texas where the Senegalese man started shooting people. And now I'm hearing that the man who shot up the ROTC class down in Virginia was also an African. They aren't sure but it appears they did this in response to Americas actions in Iran. People....especially Black folks...shouldn't be so quick to defend people who don't even recognize them as human beings. How many Arabs or Iranians have retaliated against the West when America sent missiles to Nigeria a few months ago or routinely targets Somalia over the decades? You don't even hear of AFRICANS being outraged over it...let alone Arabs and Iranians. Yet you got Africans who want to strap up and seek revenge for something that barely concerns their well being. ProfD One has to wonder 1) what the African countries are doing about their citizens being sold into slavery & 2) how complicit are the leaders in those countries in allowing it to happen Exactly. I'll tell you what they're doing about it.....SENDING THEM. Instead of making the economy better and more stable so that their people wouldn't want to leave the nation and migrate to these racist Arab societies or risk drowning at sea to make their way to Europe......some of these African leaders are actually ENCOURAGING their own citizens to leave the nation! Why? Because they figure if they leave: 1. There will be less mouths to feed, which means more resources in the country for the few who remain. 2. They're hoping these refugees can find jobs in Europe or the Middle East and send money back home so they can steal get some of it.

richardmurray Entertaining old film, thank you for this.

ProfD The question is who or what sanctioned the US government to go on a killing spree & bring about regime changes. A direct and simple answer to your question is: It's power and authority. Those who CAN often DO I'm sure there are other nations who would do the same thing IF they had the power to do so. Congress has not voted in favor of these actions. They have been briefed after the fact. True. Me and frankster had a back-n-forth about this a little while back over how much power the President actually has. Only Congress can declare war. However most people understand the President as being the Commander and Chief over the military. So whether he "declares" war or not, if he tells them to do something....even if it's unconstitutional....they feel they're duty bound to do it. The quagmire...... You're bound by law to follow the commands of an officer, but what if that officers tells you to do something illegal? And the thing about this is, most of Congress supports it...if not actively.....passively. Trump isn't doing anything that most of those in Washington don't approve of. He's just the front man. That's why he was PUT in office in the first place. He's the image that people can point to and blame for the aggressive and illicit activity being engaged in that the powers BEHIND him are pushing and have promoted for decades. There was some sort of "project for a new American century" document that came out years ago listing Cuba, Iran, Syria, Iraq, Venezuela, and North Korea as countries that needed to be overthrown. They are just checking off the list. What we as AfroAmericans need to keep an eye on is making sure that we and Sub-Saharan Africa is kept safe and stable through all of this. The craziest thing is there's no huge public outcry against the US government unaliving people for power & money. They like to believe young folks have been desensitized to violence from playing video games. It could be argued that US citizens have been desensitized to death & destruction through the actions of its government & media Yes, they have been doing this for decades too. Through the video games, movies, and conspiracy books and videos. The Epstein Files is a good example of this. The fact that a lot more people aren't outraged that many world leaders and rich people have engaged in wild sex orgies and "nigga hunting" adventures on secret islands are given to the fact that so many movies and books have been put out about this over the decades that today most people can't tell fact from fiction so they don't waste energy on it. And even if there IS public outcry....what does it look like? Just people venting on the internet and yelling "wake up"???? Shit...people ARE WOKE. They BEEN awake...now what do you want them to do? A lot of people have woken up, looked around, scratched their ass, and went back to bed since it's not much they could do anyway. Gone are the days where crowds of people with pitch forks and torches will be marching up the streets to the offices of their politicians demanding answers. They don't want the smoke that comes with that. They don't want to come face to face with the big tattooed white men with beards and automatic weapons you see now a days tasked with guarding the property. When I was a kid, most law enforcement officers were relatively in shape and clean cut in uniforms and tattoos weren't allowed. Now most of them a big, bald, with long Uncle-Jesse looking beards down to their bellies, and covered in tattoo's from head to toe dressed in civilian clothes. Chev It seems to me that when it comes to Black-on-Black crime, well, very little effort from our government intervenes. That's one of the features of a police state. When most people think of a police state, they think of martial law or an oppressive system where cops on every corner making people stay in the house and threatening to kill or imprison them for so much as staying out past curfew or littering on the street. They understand it to be draconian, but as harsh as things are most people ASSUME that atleast there is little to no crime under a police state. Kind of like how you would assume that a prison or jail would be the least violent place in society since there are so many guards and so much security. But that's not how that works..... Under a real police state, crime and violence is RAMPANT. In a real police state....such as you have in many third world countries...the police are corrupt and DO NOT protect you. They only protect those in power...not the civilian citizens. But not only that....you aren't allowed to protect yourself either! In a true police state....the weapons are confiscated and banned from the public. So roves of gangs and criminals who don't care about going to jail roam around attacking people and harming them because they know the people don't have weapons to protect themselves and the police won't help them. What you see going on in the 'hood and parts of America is a similar situation. They ALLOW crime and violence to occur and let the gangs and thugs flourish, but if GOOD men get together and try to establish peace and order in the community...that's when they pull up and start quoting "the law" and telling you what you're allowed and not allowed to do. They ban people from possessing weapons in the hood. They let crazy people loose on the street to be homeless or criminal and send them to the hood. Now if you LIVE in the hood and end up harming or killing one of these fools in order to protect your family, NOW the police want to come and gaffle YOU up.

For you Bible believers out there (and you know who you are...lol), when you read about someone being called a "son of man" in the Old Testament. When you read that term in the original Hebrew or Aramaic....it literally means the "son of Adam". Why is this important? The Hebrew word for man (mature male) is "ish" The Hebrew word for humanity is "inoshut" Adam doesn't mean "man" nor does it man "humanity".....it's a SPECIFIC TYPE of person.

Black folks shouldn't die (or get killed) fighting for racist Iranians who don't give a damn about they Black ass. I'm not sure what country this dude was from, but he and other Black men both here and abroad should ask themselves which nation would THEY as Black men fair better in: The United States or Iran. In which nation could they make the most money? In which nation could they meet and or marry the woman of their choice? In which nation would they have the liberty to practice their religion however they saw fit or not practice it at all if they so chose? In which nation could they file and win a lawsuit against a job or housing for racial discrimination? I'm not saying that the strikes against Iran are justified, however I AM putting things in their proper perspective for as as AfroAmericans and as Black people in general as far as which nation would treat US better.

ProfD My guess would be either women or the alphabet soup community. Neither one. Ok, I'll give you a hint........ Think of a hat, but smaller. Remains to be seen how long the US & Israel will allow Mojtaba Khamenei to stay in power. Well, according to Trump.....not TOO long...without his approval. Iran's next supreme leader won't 'last long' without my approval, Trump says - ABC News

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frankster It does weakens.... If this is true, can you PROVE how the current delineation movement among AfroAmericans where we are stressing and promoting our own separate identity and culture in contrast to other Blacks in the Diaspora has weakened either AfroAmericans as a community OR the Black race as a whole? In order to do this, you must show where we WERE strong and how specifically THIS movement has weakened that strength. Sometimes....but not in this case If did make us stronger we should see new growth but instead we see the disease of infighting You ARE seeing new growth. You are seeing economic growth from the promotion of FBA products and events. You are seeing intellectual growth as FBA educates entire generations of not just Black American youth but all who will listen about REAL Black American history including our presence in the United States before Slavery as well as our inventions. Ofcourse these things were taught to a certain degree before the FBA movement, but now you're seeing a huge resurgence. You are especially seeing a renewed and more vigorous call for Reparations and more accountablity from Black politicians. It turns a Difference into a Division....Thereby Creating a Separation You seem to be oblivious (or simply ignoring) the fact that many Africans and West Indians have ALREADY SEPARATED themselves from AfroAmericans anyway. Have been for a long time. It's a division THEY initiated. The FBA movement simply tells AfroAmericans to finally ACCEPT this fact and move on. Stop begging those who have no desire to unite with us TO do so, and instead focus on improving OUR OWN community. Then be the unifying force you know black people needs.....even when they or not and do not know they need it That's like telling a man who's wife left him and filed a restraining order against him, to be the best husband he can be to her whether she appreciates it or not. It doesn't matter how much you try, ultimately the person you're targeting has to be RECEPTIVE to your approach. They both learned what is taught to all who live in the US......be fearful and distrustful of Black African peoples - matters not whether you white or black African. Some would argue that most Whites don't have to be "taught" racism...in the U.S. or elsewhere. Some would argue that it is innately part of their genetic make-up. You obviously do not understand how propaganda works.... The social environment creates the narrative which creates the mental frame of reference ....which dictates how you interpret and understand what you see and experience. In short what they see and experience only supports the propaganda they have been fed "Propaganda" somebody's ass......... A lot of that shit they believe was fed to them....not from White folks....but FROM EACHOTHER. When you really do your research, you come to find out that a lot of their negative opinions of AfroAmericans didn't come from White folks or some movie shown to them in a dank dark room somewhere during the immigration process. It came from the mouths of other Africans, including their own parents....telling them to stay away from AfroAmericans and don't bring any home. I have yet to see these "movies" that so many people talk of being supposedly shown to Africans to turn them away from AfroAmericans. What are the propaganda videos that supposedly exist? They are watching the same violent movies with mostly White actors that many Americans watch. They aren't attending some special class that shows a picture of a Black man with an evil grin on his face and the words "stay away". No. They spread this foolishness about Black Americans among THEMSELVES. Somewhere in Portland or Seattle there's a White man sitting in a Starbucks tapping away on a tablet and sipping on a latte, having no idea of what he's being accused of....lol. "Wait.... They said I went to Africa and showed them what??? How To Be A Menace To Society???" ProfD Mainly because of the propaganda you mentioned that has brainwashed Africans & other Black folks. I'm beginning to even question THAT. Barack Obama was elected President back in '08....nearly 20 years ago and nearly all Africans know about him. Nearly every major metro area in this nation has wealthy and well-to-do Black people....some more than others....but EVERYWHERE has atleast SOME Black Americans doing well. So at this point, if any Africans or Asians or any other immigrants coming here will let some "Niggaz in the Hood" movie or rap video supersede the Black political and economic success that they can easily witness with their own two eyes in real life....we might as well hang up the phone on 'em.

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I'd like to see Jasmine Crockett and Ilhan Omar on a ticket together. They wouldn't have to say or do shit. Just get on television from time to time grinning and walking around looking cute. Sheeeeyid...... With Ms. Crockett's attitude, the country probably would just "get in line" and run itself....lol. "My fellow Americans... Yall already know what it is. You know what to do. Be kind to eachother and handle your business. Need I say more, or less?"

ProfD They are willing to take jobs Black folks no longer want to do & jobs that require skills AI cannot do. Almost all of the jobs they claim Black folks no longer want to do are jobs that pay far less than they should. That's why Black folks don't want to do them. Most Black Americans seek jobs they can actually make a LIVING from. The people who develop skills working with their hands will always be able to find a job. I've heard that before. I can't say that it's false. Years ago I briefly trained to become a skilled tradesmen and as soon as people found out, I was getting requests right and left for personal jobs that needed to be done around the house or at their business. Even when I had long left to work elsewhere I was still getting requests. People constantly needed stuff done around the house or at the barbershop or at the restaurant. "Whaddup man, ain't seen you in a minute. You still doing plumbing? I got a sink in the back I might need you to look at 'cuz that muthafuck STAY stopped up."

ProfD What did his eulogy influence or motivate people to do? Exactly what they did Play the little entertaining game of "call and respond", that he usually does when speaking to a Black audience. 👏🏿 That's right! 👏🏿 Go 'head baby! 👏🏿 say it honey say it! He doesn't demand much from them except cheerleading and moral encouragement. Every POTUS has a mandate to fulfill upon taking the job. It comes from the most powerful groups of people. While this is true, I often look to Franklin D. Roosevelt as an example of one who may have bucked the system a little bit and gave the people what they actually NEEDED. The whereabouts of his wife always seems to be the question whenever POTUS Obama makes an appearance without her. Lol....for a good reason. Probably for the same reason she's constantly getting make-overs that make her look 20 years younger and keeping them long brown legs nice and shiny....lol. Former FLOTUS Obama is making her own moves out in these streets. Which should be an embarrassment to him. The Clintons look more like business partners than a happily married couple. That's mainly because their marriage is an arrangement. It's like that with MOST wealthy and powerful couples. Wealthy and powerful people know that marriage is just a business and social arrangement designed to boost the status and wealth of both parties as well as often times their two families. It's usually the poor and uneducated men who are silly enough to actually believe that marriages in Western society are "divinely ordained" or holy. Only to get angry and go on killing sprees when their wives show them....one way or another....that they're actually not. "How could she do this to me? ....with my own brother? .....and his friend? ....in the bed I built with my own two hands? ....on the brand new mattress I just bought 2 weeks ago? ....with our children in the next room? .....with my dog in the same room watching them? ....and put it all on video? Fuck it! They all gotta go!" You never hear about rich men committing murder suicide because they caught their wives cheating. They EXPECT for them to cheat....because THEY'RE cheating too. Just don't bring home a disease or unwanted pregnancy that ruins his image. Some rich men PICK the man he let's his wife have sex with....lol. Expectations are very different when it comes to white men & their wives. The expectations are different because the patterns of behavior are different. White women have a pattern of standing by their White men in power, both physically and otherwise. Do Black women have a pattern of standing by Black men, even if he's wealthy and in power?

ProfD Sure. Some men of all races & ethnicities try to gatekeep the women. Some men do more than just try, they actually DO. It's hard for minorities anywhere to access power. Well....there IS atleast one minority group found in nearly every Western society who seem to have few problems being in or accessing positions of power. Lol..... Do you need a hint, or can you figure out who I'm talking about? I'd imagine it's even worse for Black folks as minorities in Persian & Arab countries. Far worse, from what I've heard. We already there is anti-Black sentiment around the planet. The question is what are Black folks going to do about it. The first step is keeping the toxins contained. If we know a society is violently racist and anti-Black, perhaps we shouldn't let people FROM that society even come to our shores until they can reasonably demonstrate that they as individuals no longer hold those views. Ain't that what they do with religious fundamentalists? Vet them to make sure THEY don't come to America with their radical beliefs? Well, why can't Black folks make sure the same thing is done to prevent radical racists from entering in either?

Delano Looks like Cynique is sitting up there giggling at EVERYTHING you type. Looks like you've become quite entertaining to her.....lol.

richardmurray the somali are a unique people Yes. You asked for a modern example, and I gave you one. frankster His message is definitely one that divides and weakens the global black community It divides it, but I'm not sure if it "weakens" it. Not all divisions weaken the collective. Sometimes separating and cutting the dead weight makes you stronger and more virile. And that is exactly the point..... It only speaks to Black American patrriotism...... but it actually divides Black People Does it DIVIDE Black people? Or does it WIDEN the division that ALREADY EXISTED between different Black communities? Does that mean you do not want to do better? If you're enquiring about me personally....I'm always seeking self improvement. Or that you would rather make an enemy of your ignorant brothers and fight them? If he's my brother he's NOT my enemy. At worse, only my opponent or adversary. Yes it is true...being first Willing or Wanting to stops helps the addict Sometimes they do not have the Skills Tools or Infrastructure to do better Are you saying this is the case with Africans and West Indians who avoid contact and relationships with AfroAmericans....even while IN America itself? They do it because they don't have the skills, tools, or infrastructure to better the relationship? Many Blacks born here for generations still do not know whats happening to them? Is that a statement or a question? The internet is one of the greatest purveyor of misinformation and propaganda It's also one of the greatest tools of information and man-made sources of facts, truths, and knowledge. Which one you're find largely depends on your intentions and motivations. It is ignorance... The self hate taught by white racist to black people and all peoples regardless of color is ingrained in the American Society....it is Social Institutional and Structural True. But you break out of that ignorance and self-hatred with a DESIRE to do so. For a long time I preferred light skinned women with long straight or wavy hair and thought they were the most beautiful "Black" women. It wasn't until I had the DESIRE in my 30s to change my preference....recognizing that it was a manifestation of ingrained self-hatred and racism.....that my mind actually changed to TRULY finding dark skinned African women more attractive. It didn't just happen. I didn't wait on somebody to come to me and ask me to do it. I had to take the initiative and voluntarily change my train of thought. They think they know what they are doing is Right. They think that what they're doing is more beneficial to them. I'm not sure if they're convinced that it's "right" or not. The fact that so many won't admit it and will atleast PRETEND to feel otherwise in order to get along and keep the peace with AfroAmericans, is evidence that they know their true beliefs wouldn't be tolerated very long. White Racist are also guilty of that.... It's expected from them. Yes they are in need of help....it is sometimes hard to ask a friend for help - much more a starnger or neighbor Sadly I have seen many being taken advantage of and abused when they are in need of help......or worst led astray Sometimes the best help you can give people is to stop "enabling" them and leave them alone. Let whatever they're dealing with "over take" them to the point that they have a SINCERE change of heart and attitude. The way you typing it seems you would rather fight them set the up to fail or abandon them. I wouldn't set them up for failure, however some....like some AfroAmericans....I would definitely abandon. As you said, there are good and bad people in every race and culture. So why how else would you deal with the "bad" Africans, besides letting them go their own way? All they know about Black Americans is how black americans are portrayed by white media...... That's not necessarily true. Again, you have MILLIONS of Africans living here in the United States who know better because they've seen better. You have millions more living in Africa who have been here and seen better. It is the thoses who comes to you for help teach and schools them to the extent they are able to learn Those I already have a great relationship with and come to me for help and advice....I help. But don't work next to me for 6 months never saying so much as a "hello" or "kiss my ass akata" during that time, but all of a sudden when a White manager writes you up for leaving work early NOW here you come: "Hey bruda! Do you know how badly deez peepaz treated your African seesta today?" Because I'll tell you: "If you're still in the building talking to me.... Apparently not as bad as it could have been" ....and keep on pushing. The shiesty way some of them niccaz act is almost COMICAL...lol They know better.

ProfD This also shows me....as most of his speeches....that Obama knows how to influence and motivate people when he WANTS to. So all this crap about he couldn't get "this" done or "that" done is just that.....crap. He got done what he was put in office to do. I was initially interested in this video because because of a bit of deception that was going on around the internet (George W. Bush said "internets"....lol) that Obama was dragging Trump in the eulogy and really letting loose on him. Man, I watched that speech from start to finish and he didn't even mention Trump's name...or the Presidency. He did indirectly touch on him for a moment or two with the "every morning you wake up" remarks, but that's about as far as it went. My question is, where was Michelle?

ProfD Due to their religious & cultural beliefs, it might be frowned upon within Iran. True. Which is one of the points I'm making. Bigotry, racism, and intolerance is PART of a lot of Middle Eastern cultures! It's ingrained. Doesn't matter if they use "religion" to justify it; it is what it is. However, if one can afford to take an Iranian woman elsewhere & she's willing go...surely, it can happen. Anything is possible. I'm talking likelihood. There's no shortage of Iranian (Persian) & Arab women living outside their home countries. I'd imagine some of them are kicking it with non-Iranian men. The question is why would you want a Persian or Arab woman when there's no shortage of available sistaz. 2 responses: 1. They're women. Men of all races/ethnicities tend to find women of all races/ethnicities attractive. Biology doesn't limit sexual attraction. Racism, bigotry, violence, and the FEAR of violence does. 2. The point I was making wasn't that Black men should go over chasing after Iranian women, lol. The point I was making was how deeply is the racism ingrained in their culture. Who the men "allow" the women to have sex with is a pretty good barometer in determining their level of open racism in that society. As you know back in the viciously racist days of America...Black men AND White women would be killed by White men for having sex with eachother. It's mellowed out a bit now. But those anti-Black male sentiments are ongoing in much of the Middle East where racism is openly practiced and accepted as frankster's videos explains. Again, it doesn't matter if they use religion or culture to justify their intolerant behavior....it is what it is. Israel imported Africans through their colonization efforts. True. And they are mistreated and denied aspects of power and authority in the Israeli government. The question is....or MY question is....do the Arabs and Iranians treat Africans any better? Outside of releasing some Black hostages back in the 70s...... Can we point to the Iranians as some sort of moral standard who have "one up'ed" Israel, as far as the treatment of Black people are concerned? Israel imported Africans...and so did the Arabs and Iranians -AS SLAVES. Why should FBA/AfroAmericans question the way Persian & Arab countries handle their bizness? I would say for a couple of reasons: 1. We should know EVERY nation and culture on this planet where anti-Black racism is prevalent and allowed to flourish. Why? Because some of those people will eventually make their way over HERE to the United States where WE will have to deal with them and their foolishness. So it's best to have some knowledge about them and what they believe. One of the reasons AfroAmericans are dealing with what we're dealing with from the Latinos and Arabs in the country right NOW is because we didn't do our proper homework on who was coming into the country and what they believed. 2. It's good to have this knowledge so we when you have silly negroes who like to take sides in these conflicts and claim that we should "side" with the Arabs or Iranians or Palestinians because the Jews and Americans are oppressing them.....we can point out the fact that many of those people you're feeling sorry for or rooting for are EVEN MORE racist and anti-Black than the Jews and Americans! You feel sorry for them and how they're currently being treated, but they've done even worse to YOUR ancestors! frankster Thanks for those videos. They pretty much confirmed what I already knew about Middle Eastern and Farsi (Iranian) cultures. They have a long and documented history of enslaving and mistreating African people and even incorporating it as part of their culture. Infact, the very WORD "Iran" is a modification of "Aryan". ....one of the Caucasian tribes who migrated to that region and displaced the Black Elamites.

As I said in brother Harry's thread....... I'm not sure how Iranians feel about Black people because I've had almost no contact with them. However if they feel the same way Arabs do, it's hard to feel sorry for people who are even more racist and vicious than White folks toward Black people. I can go to Israel and get a girlfriend, if I wanted. Could I go to Iran and get one...as a Black man? Israel has thousands of Black people serving in their military. How many does Iran have? Questions we should ask ourselves.

I resent that accusation! Ofcourse I'm not "stuck" on stupid. I only think about Cynique when I read and/or respond to her posts...lol.