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Del How is my following your orders, proof of my intelligence. Questions aren't orders. Answering questions isn't the same as following orders. Plus why do you think I care about your opinion of me. Because you said: Your BELIEF that I was insensitive to your feelings seems to have affected your response (or lack there of) to my question, as well as influenced our further dialog. Obviously you care more about my opinion of you than you wish to admit.

Troy If you have no idea why he was stopped, then you shouldn't be so quick to critique the idea that RACISM may indeed be a factor. especially since Del suggests that was not the motivation. Regardless as to what they may have talked about, how would Del know the TRUE motivation of those Caucasian officers stopping stopped him? ....as if racists have a habit of ADMITTING that racism is the motive behind their actions, lol

Re-naming the Edmond Pettus Bridge is actually a pretty good idea. I'm surprised they didn't do that now that you mentioned it.

Troy Again, this is why you will not -- indeed can not -- entertain the idea that a white policemen in Switzerland may have pulled Del over for a reason other than his race. ((throws up hands and sighs)) ...ok Troy, then you tell ME why they might have stopped him. If you don't (and apparently neither does Del) think that RACE was a factor, then why DID they decide to stop him? ...man.

Delano I have studied Astrology and Tarot, but I have also studied logic. I also have a rule I don't argue with people who can't think abstractly or who lack empathy. None of this applies to me, so why mention it? I have stated what made me feel free and you are attempting to negate my statement. In this and other comments you lack a sense of proportion, or you seem oblivious as to how your words or actions would effect someone. Each conversation and situation is different. In this case, my question was designed to: 1. Receive and answer (which I have yet to receive from you) 2. Encourage you to consider WHY the cops may have stopped you in the first place. However if getting you to think more pragmatically seems like a cruel and heartless thing to you, that is not my intention. Perhaps I should leave you to continue in your state of felicity. You can not conceive or even entertain the possibility of the that I may know more than you about anything. ......and your inability to answer a simple question hasn't helped with this, lol. If you want to show me how smart you are, start answering some questions.

Couldn't most of these death have easily been prevented with common sense measures like reponsible behavior on the part of the citizens AND responsible guidelines on the part of government? People can blame the public all they want for not following the rules, but when the CDC tells people to take their masks off because it's no longer necessary...in the MIDDLE of a Pandemic with a variant that is much more worse and deadly than the original virus....that seems irresponsible to me. Perhaps it reasons like THIS, that so many people believe in conspiracies and don't trust those in authority.

🤔 Who...exactly...is the "primitive" and who is the "modern"? Can we have some examples please?

Del Yet it does appear that I knew how you would respond. That's a reach. Your simple refusal to answer my question is not proof or even evidence that you knew what my statement was going to be in advance. The fact is.,...you've refused to answer questions with me and others before, so it's simply a HABIT on your part. Yet it took you two days to arrive at the same conclusion. You have to see for yourself. 1. Wrong. I "arrived at this conclusion" many many years before this conversation. 2. For a man who claims he's not interested in influencing or changing minds...my conclusions should be irrelevant to him, lol Yes and your statement shows you had already made up your mind. Therefore you have preempted any possible exchange of ideas. An exchange relies on atleast TWO parties to participate. If I ask you a question, and you refuse to answer it then YOU are the one who "pre-empted" the exchange of ideas. This is not a new dynamic however my response or lack thereof is new. No it's not new. As me and Troy have said, you have refused to answer questions directed toward you before. You actually have a reputation for it, lol. Troy Was my presumption incorrect? Yes, because I never said nor do I believe that Black people are universally mistreated. You won't be able to find any quotes of me saying such. Are you willing to explore the possibility that there are white people — entire even — who don’t have the characteristics you’ve described and can treat Black men with respect? Or is Del’s prescription correct? Great questions, however they are irrelevant to the immediate issue and focus...which is the motive behind Delano's refusal to answer my simple question.

May our brother John Lewis rest in peace. I wasn't the biggest fan of John Lewis because I didn't care too much for his strategy; however I think this is a good thing of that ship being named after him.

Troy Following statement and countless others. Do you understand the difference between a mere statement and a QUESTION? I asked a QUESTION And obviously it wasn't a rhetorical QUESTION because I have made it clear that I wanted an answer. the presumption here was -ok, now wait a minute, lol Are you seriously going to take my QUESTION and project on to it what you PRESUME I'm implying by asking it? Well...I feel for the next brother who asks you what time it is. You're liable to PRESUME that his innocent request for the current time has some ulterior motive and then proceed to attack him for it! I merely asked Del a question....which he has yet to answer. Nothing more, nothing less. You really shouldn't let your imagination carry you to these far reaches...lol.

Del Then it doesn't matter whether I respond. What you fail to realise is that my response was in line with this comment before you made it. You didn't know I felt this way until I made the statement which was nearly 2 days AFTER you refused to answer my question; so what was your initial excuse for not answering? Troy Anecdotally, it seems an increasing number of people dogs today — often 2 or 3. Man’s best friend seems to take the place of human friendships for many people and I’m talking about Black people. An increasing number of Blk people speak English, Spanish, and French also...does that mean Blk people naturally spoke those languages? Those behaviors...like the fondness for and cuddling of dogs....are products of colonialism and globalism and were INTRODUCED to them from Caucasians who engaged in those behaviors by nature. You know Del is right about that one. Based upon your response Pioneer, there is nothing Del could have written to change your mind. However 2 points you should keep in mind: 1. Del didn't know I felt this way until 2 days AFTER refusing to answer my question. So my response couldn't have been the reason for his initial refusal to answer. 2. For months if not years Del has been saying that he's no longer interested in changing people's minds but dialog simply for the exchange of ideas. You and I have read him saying this. So whether or not his response would "change my mind" should be irrelevant to him. He should simply answer the question as a mutual exchange of ideas. It is interesting that you have no problem formulating an opinion about a place you have never been, but will reject an opposing opinion from someone who has been there. What opinions have I formed OR rejected about this place? I simply asked Del a question...not about Switzerland...but about the officers who contacted him. A question he has YET to answer.

Nor does it help when so-called scientific experts routinely contradict themselves. They announce that it's now safe for people to take off their masks and stop taking precautions.....then wonder why the virus is surging again.

Troy Both of those are cultural characteristics and can easily be applied to people of all so called races. Yes they are cultural characteristics but very very few other ethnic groups of color have a history of dairy consumption (especially after 30) or fondness of dogs in their homes like Caucasians ethnic groups. You can't find documents on it.

Troy There are no behavioral characteristics that you can apply to Caucasians universally that are not also true for all humans. I'll give you two right off the bat.......... On average, they consume a lot more dairy products than other ethnic groups of color. On average, they tend to be more affectionate towards dogs than other ethnic groups of color.

Since when did Conspiracy Theory become a "right wing" thing? For the past several years now and especially the past several months, the mainstream media has been conflating those who believe in conspiracies and those who question the "official" version of things with Trump Supporter and right-winger. It seems as if they are trying to make both camps synonymous. Even when it comes to the vax. They seem to be ignoring the millions of Blk people who are suspicious of the vax and suggest that the ONLY people who are rejecting it are Trump supporters. Minister Farrakhan and many others have warned Blk America about conspiracies for decades going back into the 60s, yet the media will ignore them and focus on a handful of MAGA hat wearing rednecks and call them the "truthers".

Troy I've been dealing with Delano for nearly 10 years, if you think I don't know him and his "finicky" ways by now......lol What if I told you that when he didn't answer my question the FIRST time I asked him, I knew he wasn't gonna answer it no matter how many more times I asked? I just wanted to see how far he would go with his finicky behavior. it might be hard for you to wrap your brain around the fact that there may be a place on Earth where Black men are not troubled simply for being Black. That's not hard to understand. I'm sure there are many places on the planet where Black men aren't troubled for being Black. However I DO find it hard to believe that Switzerland is one of those places because Caucasians are Caucasians all over the planet and tend to have the same nature regardless of region. Does a dog or cat who is a carnivore in Canada all of a sudden STOP being a carnivore and become a vegetarian in Russia? I can't always believe with all Black men say about an area because some men think if they can have sex with a White woman in a particular place without getting harassed for it...as far as they're concerned NO racism exists there, lol. I have to go to a place myself and make my own value judgement based on my own personal observations before I declare a place "cool".

That's what I'd be concerned with... I'm not gonna get with any woman so strong and skilled that she could put moves on me that I can't easily get out of. I'm not into the S&M. She's probably got some special muscles down there that would grab "it" and not let it go until SHE'S ready to let go....lol

Troy I don't find it difficult to answer simple questions, though often times I DON'T answer them for the very reason you described. But in THIS case.... I would have appreciated if Del would have simply responded to my question (even if the response was he didn't know), since I asked it first; instead of ignoring it only to ask me one instead. but he is not a mind reader, therefore he can not possibly have known the motivation of the police officers who pulled him over. Do you mean to tell me that a 50-something year old man born and raised in this society is CLUELESS as to why the police would stop him of all people while he's simply walking around minding his own business?

Troy She's attractive. Pretty face and smile with a nice attitude. Her body is pretty much average and moderately attractive because of her shape, but she is a little too muscular for my enjoyment..lol

These girls are pretty, but I'm more amazed and impressed at how physically strong they are. Can a person imagine how much strength it takes for your legs to force you up in the air high enough to flip several times??? When I was a kid I used to think they were made out of rubber...lol Troy I imagine the judges ignore the music, prancing and butt wiggling, And I imagine that's ONE of the reasons I'm not not one of their judges. Because I WOULDN'T ignore it. Infact, the more skin they'd show me....the higher the score they'd get....lol

Chev Well it's about the TOTAL package. It's one thing to have big well toned muscles as a female athlete. That's understandable. But if you have a big butt, wide hips, or a nice pretty face then those feminine features will OFF-SET that muscular masculinity. But Sha'Carri has a rather masculine looking face in my opinion, which doesn't offset her muscular physique. Simone on the other hands has a nice pretty face that OFF-SET her muscular body. Like Serena Williams, who also has a pretty face and big butt that OFF-SET her huge muscular arms and shoulders. Nia Dennis doesn't look very muscular to me. She looks like the typical feminine female athlete, though she does have an attractive face.

Chev Rape can be used as a weapon for hatred also because a common occurance through out history that during war the rape of local women by enemy soldiers tends to be very prevalant. It too is likely mostly fueled by young men who don't have a long sexual history themselve looking for easy sex as well as a strategy to demoralize the population. I also think, as you have explained about your friend trying to serenade the girl, if he were to have the opportunity, he might have 'raped' her, but it would not be for power, control or hate, but just a kind of obsessive love. I wouldn't want to think that about him, however he is the PHYSICAL and EMOTIONAL type. Even when we were in our late 30s he would play rough with me sometimes grabbing me or pushing me on the shoulder and trying to wrestle, lol. And that dude was big...like Dr. Umar Johnson...lol. Some of our friends would avoid him for that reason. I couldn't let another grown man handle me in public like that...lol....I have to hit him for real and threaten him just to get him to stop playing. Smart dude....heavy into real-estate and business ownership...but just big, physical, and JOLLY...lol

Del I asked you a simple, question. Perhaps you didn't see it clearly enough so allow me to ask it in bigger bolder letters.......... 📢 How do you know the reason they stopped you in the first place wasn't related to your skin color?

Delano I was walking around Zurich Switzerland late at night. A police car stopped I said I like to walk at night and think. They said okay and off they drove. It was the first time I didn't feel the weight of my skin color. How do you know the reason they stopped you in the first place wasn't related to your skin color?

Chev They hate themselves too. I've also noticed that many of the people who follow people like him and Kevin Samuels LOVE CONFLICT. They love fighting and beefing and encourage it and even donate money to see more of it.