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  1. Like Del said, no need to have an emotional reaction. If you think I'm wrong about something.....cut out all the insults and just prove it. Show us EXACTLY what I said that was wrong.
  2. Once again, YOUR WRONG...lol....but I don't expect you to admit it. According to the plot, it's not a "futuristic" society but a hidden CONTEMPORARY one parallel with the outside world. And whether a society practices polygamy or not has NOTHING to do with how elevated the women are. Western civilization has STRICTLY instituted and promoted monogamy through out it's entire history and has also been one of the most oppressive societies for women.
  3.   Troy even try it Brother. You, and everybody else who posts here knows, my admin role is limited to removing trolls, keeping the software and hardware working, and general administration. Saying, "The only reason you're praising Troy is because he's the Administrator," is not just false, but a pure desperation move on your part -- beneath even you... or so I thought Desperation????? Beneath even me???? I'm not the one going around stirring up trouble. Infact, I'm the one who tried to make peace between Cynique and Sara after Cynique's repeated provocations. And speaking of Sara...... If you'll notice the ONLY time Cynique was half-way civil towards me was when Sara was here and she needed all the allies she could get....lol. Cynique i never tried to pick fights with Mel or Zaji because i admire and respect both of them Oh really???? Well HERE YOU ARE attacking Zaji simply for agreeing with me: "Doeth the lady protest too much? i can see how Troy might get the "wrong" impression since you seldom agree with him, and never challenge Pioneer because you 2 are on the same page and reinforce each other's views." "Because zaji is invariably in lock step with him, i now have my suspicions, and while she is watching me, i am watching her. It's too bad that Pioneer is oblivious to all of all of the admonitions and advice she offers, - her stream of conscious monologues that mesmerize us even as she has lapses where she doesn't practices what she preaches... But, hey, nobody's perfect!" https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/4990-the-problem-of-identifying-ourselves-based-upon-whites-concept-of-race/?page=2 And HERE YOU ARE attacking Del simply for agreeing with me: "I can't believe anybody would consider Pioneer a role model when it comes to being open-minded. Does this mean you are now more receptive to Troy's POV on climate change? Or does Pioneer's lack of open-mindness inspire you to not be that way? Or is it because his opinionated pontificating exposes you to points of view you have no problem swallowing? Or is it because you empathize with him for not conceding to Troy? Since you have confessed that you are trying to "improve" yourself, is this because you have decided to be a more tolerant person - or because you didn't realize that you weren't a tolerant person? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Just curious about your mid-life transformation/epiphany. Me, i'm too old to change. Which is why i can't resist taking pot shots at Pioneer. i guess i should congratulate him on acquiring 2 new choir members for his preaching" https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/5005-bringing-fire/?page=1 But I guess those aren't your words. I guess I just made up all those quotes of you attempting to humiliate people simply for agreeing with me.....lol.
  4. And what's even more amazing...it wasn't the WOMEN he slept with who were complaining but PBS just dug up this info and used it as an excuse to cancel his show anyway! Good for Tavis. I think more Black men should follow his lead because too many are being fired and even caught up in legal troubles for simply being heterosexual men and doing what heterosexual men do. I can't count the number of times I've had to fight with companies to save younger brothers from getting fired for the simplest of excuses. I know he didn't actually work FOR PBS but more WITH PBS, but still..... If Black men owned more of the places they actually worked in, this wouldn't be an issue. You could date and have sex with whoever you wanted without worrying about losing your job. Now would that be a WISE thing to do? No. I flirt hard and heavy with the women I work around but I've had a rule since 30 NOT to have sex with women I work with.....atleast not while I'm still working with them. It's not wise to mix business with pleasure. But men will be men and sometimes they make mistakes, but they shouldn't lose their ability to make a living over it.
  5. Cynique Too bad, you don't practice what you preach. This is a criteria you rarely adhere to, because you think you are the final authority on everything, in you entrenched m/o of anecdotal opinionated cherry-picking. Your opposition to everything I post proves that you are MORE ENTRENCHED in your belief that I'm wrong......than I am in my belief that I'm right. So what does that make you?
  6. I've seen the movie and I think it was great. I thought it has some pretty powerful spiritual messages in it that related to traditional African spirituality. Especially as it relates to the "realm of the ancestors". It reminded me of Shaka Zulu mixed with Game of Thrones....lol. But unfortunately without the NUDITY that is found in both series. Another thing I noticed about the film is that with all the Afrocentric concepts introduced.....POLYGAMY which is so common in traditional African culture...was not such much as even hinted.
  7. Cynique How about that? Someone who admits he was in error. I'm sure Del could parse Troy's reasoning ad infinitum, and Pioneer would have little empathy for him, but "in my opinion" Troy's admission was a sign of good character. Yeah, yeah, yeah........ The only reason you're praising Troy is because he's the Administrator. If he was a man with the same status as me or Del you'd be picking needless argument's with HIM TOO like you do with 90% of everyone else who comes on this board. ...like you TRIED to do with Zaji but she was smart enough not to take the bait. ....like you'd be doing with Mel or Del if I weren't here, lol. Since admitting that one is wrong is a sign of "good character" then when will YOU show some "good character" and admit you were wrong about: 1. Science NEVER being espoused to religion....after I showed you that sometimes they are. 2. There being multiple races.....if you now believe there is only one.
  8. Lol, I bet I can not only SAY it better but SHOW AND PROVE them both to be frauds. *First Cynique makes an ERRONEOUS statement by saying religion is NEVER espoused to science. And I proved her WRONG by pointing out that "B.C" is a religious concept used by scientists. *Then Mel tries to defend her by claiming B.C. DOES NOT or MAY NOT stand for "Before Christ". When asked what DOES it stands for....she started stuttering and trying to change the conversation like a child trying to hide their mischief....lol. Del, you say note this well? Ofcourse I've noted what Mel said....BECAUSE SHE'S QUOTING MY VERY OWN STATEMENT! She's quoting ME where I said: " I USED TO believe the knowledge was just information and facts. But found out that unless that information and facts comes with a proper understanding then it's still not knowing." https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/4876-comprehension-is-intimately-intertwined-with-knowledge/?page=2&tab=comments#comment-24562   I've made it crystal clear that one needs FACTS PLUS UNDERSTANDING OF THOSE FACTS in order to be knowledgable. Now contrast that....with what CYNIQUE SAID in the very same thread: "A person can be knowledgeable about a subject because he has been supplied with the facts and the information.......Comprehension doesn't figure into this equation. " " because when you give them facts you are making them knowledgeable about the subject which the facts refer to; whether they comprehend what the facts indicate is not a given. " "Knowledge is synonymous with information and facts, but it is not synonymous with comprehension. " https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/4876-comprehension-is-intimately-intertwined-with-knowledge/   CYNIQUE IS THE ONE WHO SAYS MERE FACTS WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING OR COMPREHENSION IS THE SAME AS KNOWLEDGE! Now I wonder what Mel has to say about Cynique's belief that facts without comprehension is the same as knowledge. Or will she just pretend to overlook it and try to change the subject again.....lol.
  9. THANK YOU! Cynique Go think up some more nonsequitor metaphors until Mel can put you in your place. Again What the hell are you talking about? I was right about B.C. meaning before Christ, which means I was correct about everything else that followed. YOU were the one wrong about the relationship of science and religion. And MEL was wrong for challenging me on this issue. Seriously, what kind of DREAM WORLD are you two living in??????
  10. Cynique How energized you've become! WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! It's funny how you end up saying the SAME THING three nights in a row....lol. 1. Last night....you said it to ME. 2. The night before....you said it to your 72 year old boy-FRIEND after he took is "magic pills". 3. And the night before THAT.....you said it to your original boy-TOY after replacing the batteries in it, lol.
  11. WTF Ok...how did I end up being the one supposedly "wrong"???????????? Perhaps some patient person might be willing to take time to slowly and carefully EXPLAIN to me how I ended up "losing" the argument......lol. Basically Cynique said that science NEVER espouses religion. I thought that statement was incorrect so I pointed out that scientists use the term "B.C." when giving historic dates. B.C. stands for BEFORE CHRIST and "Christ" is a Christian term, thus establishing the FACT that science indeed DOES incorporate religion from time to time. Instead of Cynique defending her erroneous statement, Mel jumps in and says that B.C. "probably" stands for something else, and then goes on to interject African history and names of the month in the argument without once proving me wrong. Ok....... I check the thread today and all of a sudden Mel is calling me a fool, Cynique is praising my supposed "epic take down", and Del is being attacked. Seriously.....is this some sort of joke? I admit I'm not the smartest person in the world but I'm pretty sure I wasn't wrong nor was I taken down. I'm pretty sure B.C. meant what I said it did. I'm pretty sure it proved Cynique's statment wrong. But perhaps I'm wrong and just not smart enough to realize my error. If so, can someone CAREFULLY and PATIENTLY explain to me how I was "wrong" and how I supposedly got "took down"???????
  12.   Mel For example, if that statement you made were accurate - then today wouldn't be Mars-Day, the god of war day... - If you researched a bit - you'd probably learn that the demarcation probably had to nothing to do with jesus and everything to do with politics ... You say it PROBABLY had nothing to do with Jesus....lol. If you're not sure about it why are you arguing the point in the first place? Besides, I didn't say said Western society was built around Jesus....I said it was built off of CHRISTIANITY with the FIGURE of Christ holding prominence. And yes it has to do with politics, because Christianity WAS/IS a political movement designed to unite the Roman Empire. Which is why they continued using the same Roman deities and customs disguised under different names. further if you got really deep you'd know western science IS African Science Calling Western Science "African Science" is like pointing to a turd in the toilet and calling it a pizza or fruit salad....lol. It may contain ELEMENTS of the original, but it's far too modified to be considered the same. Listen, stop arguing with me about this, you know I'm right.....lol. If you noticed.... Cynique is STAYING OUT of this....lol....because she knows better than to fight with me on it. She's sitting back hiding and leaving you here all by yourself. Zaji Thanks for the link. It too proves what I said about B.C. being religiously based terms.
  13. Why on Earth would I go through all of that....lol.....when I already KNOW why? Western society (including it's so-called science) is an out-growth of CHRISTIANITY or CHRISTENDOM in which "Christ" is a prominent figure. And his supposed birth date is the demarcation period, full stop.
  14. Del & Zaji I don't think it is possible to verify most information. I don't know if you can personally verify all of the information you recieve BUT.... You can atleast stop accepting information from KNOWN LIARS. The intelligent thing to do is accept your information from people who are known to have always presented truthful information with no errors or falsehoods or deceptive motives.
  15. Mel Or that can be Before Common Era / Common Era or Current Era Lol....really? Well exactly WHEN does the "common era" begin? And what event supposedly occurred that separates THIS era from the one BEFORE?
  16. Cynique I have no problem accepting there being only one race inasmuch as all humans walk upright on 2 legs, have the opposing thumbs and forefingers that enabled them to pick up objects to use as tools, I suppose you have no problem accepting there being only ONE SEX or ONE GENDER also since most humans share the same physical characteristics you mentioned above.   And of course, this opinion could be deemed by some as a subjective one, knowing my disregard for pioneer. ......especially after I EXPOSED that disregard, lol. I felt it only fair that everyone who reads your prejudicial statments will know the REAL reasons behind them.
  17. How can you sit up there and say science never espouses religion when the very DATING SYSTEM Western science uses is "B.C" which stands for BEFORE CHRIST????? Claiming that Jesus was a "Christ" or even than a "Christ" was born is a CHRISTIAN/RELIGIOUS concept!
  18. Mel What's with you and all this "Black women gotta do this" and "Black women gotta do that" ????? Are you and Michelle Obama trying to get together and start your own Black Girls Rock Amazon tribe.....lol. Also if we chose not to work for corporations but instead grew and produce raw materials, assembled products and sell wholesale to large corporations. Becoming producers would allow us leverage. We'd absolutely have to function as a monolith to make that happen. I don't think we have to be a monolith as a community to make this happen. We have so many Black people in America that even if just 10% of Black people agreed to work together to produce our own food and assemble our own products that would still be 4 to 5 million people....which is more than enough to do it. Elijah Muhammad with the Nation of Islam grew their own food, made their own clothes, and ran their own stores and restaurants with less than 1 million members in the entire organization. Infact, look at the Amish and what they're able to accomplish with their minimal numbers. Our biggest problem is that the SMARTEST of Black people too often would rather take their intelligence and talents and negotiate a pay check from White people to help build White society INSTEAD OF staying in their own communities and using those same talents to build up Black America. As far as wealth is concerned, however, we don't have leverage. We spend a lot of money but we own next to nothing. Black wealth is near zero percent here in America. Less than 1 percent of Black-American families have a net worth of 1.4 million. According to an article I read, 98 percent of available land is owned by white families. You have an excellent point about the available land mostly owned by White families, however this is where the more CONSERVATIVE side of me comes out. While I don't disagree with anything you said, I will say this. When we speak of wealth, White people didn't get their wealth from the moon. Besides the land they took from the Native Americans and the labor they forced Black people to engage in....they basically MADE THEIR OWN WEALTH and gave it value by working dilligently in their own economic system. Black people are going to have to learn that real wealth isn't GIVEN...it's PRODUCED. Going to work for Google and getting a $2,000 a week pay check from them isn't wealth. If I get a plot of land and plant 1500 banana trees.....those bananas are WEALTH. The land it's own is WEALTH. The money I get from selling them is WEALTH. It's not really wealth if someone else controls it's distribution and flow; it's not really wealth until YOU have a measure of control over it. In other words, Black people need to stop waiting on White people to GIVE them loans, grants, and a template or framework in which to acquire wealth and instead use our own creativity and what we already have at our disposal to start generating it among ourselves.
  19. Troy What?! Your categorization of science is completely wrong @Pioneer1. Science, unlike the world's great religions, would change a belief tomorrow if new information was presented that proved the current belief false. You speak as if the scientific community is a monolith. There are many conflicting and contradicting positions WITHIN Western science. You see this with BIG PHARMA all the time where certain drugs are deemed safe now but were considered dangerous in the past....only because there wasn't much money to be made or some politician didn't receive a big enough bribe to vote for it. So this so-called "science" changes based not only on new information but fresh money....lol.   Indeed, it is often religion that holds science back, even killing people for speaking the truth because it conflicts with religious doctrine. This practice continues to this day. I'd even argue that religion holds back spirituality. Some religions may hold people back spiritually but science tends to rob them of their spirituality ALL TOGETHER. Keep in mind that when I say "science" I'm not talking about KNOWLEDGE in general from where the word supposedly got it's name from; I'm talking about that general body of information that has been ordained as acceptable by the majority of Western institutions. There is a lot of truth and wisdom and knowledge in Voodoo....but it's not accepted as "science". There is a lot of truth, wisdom and knowledge in Native American, African, and ancient Asian culture and belief systems.....but the knowledge they offer is not accepted as part of official "science". People all around the world for millions of years and more have believe in spirits and souls, but because Western scientists claim they can't test it in a laboratory....they don't consider it part of "science". As far as many in Western academia are concerned, if it didn't come from a White man in a white coat with glasses....it must not be true, lol. If any religion is guilty of holding people back spiritually, it's the organized religion of WESTERN SCIENCE.
  20. So basically you've decided to: -IGNORE everything I said in my previous post...... -PUT WORDS into my mouth and attribute to me a position that I've never taken..... -then proceed to argue against that position and claim victory? OK..... Lol....shame, shame, shame.
  21. I hope you don't talk like that to your 72 year old stud muffin you say is always asking you to come over so he can "rock your world".....lol.
  22. And I said I wanted PROOF of your conversion.....so "not"....until I get what I asked for.
  23. I didn't say I had a problem with the film. I haven't even seen it yet. Everyone I know who HAS, said it was a good film.....so I'm not dissing it. I'm just saying that PERHAPS it was a catharsis. Cynique said it was "escape entertainment"....and that's what a catharsis is. It's a means of ESCAPE from your reality when you feel you are powerless to change it.
  24. I'm not sure at what point you changed your mind....maybe you can show us the thread or give us a link where you actually did this before me pointing our your inconsistency on this issue. Anyway..... While it's true that race is a MAN MADE construct, it's not an ARTIFICIAL one. Artificial constructs ARE man-made, but that doesn't mean that all man-made constructs are artificial. Artificial things are a REPLICA or COPY of the original. The concept of race.....to my knowledge....is an original idea/concept that was used to classify human beings. It's not a copy of another.
  25. Zaji Absolutely science has become the new religion in the West! Most organized religions require people to have BLIND FAITH and to accept things based on hand-me-down knowledge instead of directly investigating things for themselves and coming to their own conclusions. And the science that is practiced in the West is the exact same way! Infact, if you don't believe in the THEORY of evolution in most scientific circles, you are usually ridiculed and everything else you have to offer is dismissed. Which is the same bullying tactic that most organized religions engage in.
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