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umbrarchist affecting Yeah. You and Cynique really belong together...lol. Is that why there are so many homeless people? I don't recall this in the 90s, or is that sarcasm I see before me. You're right. There are far more homeless people on the streets today than in the past, but it has nothing to do with the national debt. There are a list of reasons: 1. The population of the United States in general is higher today than it was in the 90s so the factors that lead to homelessness could remain the same and you'd still see more homeless people on the street. 2. More people are suffering from substance abuse (which often leads to mental illness and homelessness) today than in the 90s. Not just in sheer numbers but a higher percentage of the population. 3. Wages for service industry and manufacturing jobs haven't kept up with the costs of living....especially when it comes to real estate...since the 90s. On top of that, many of the U.S. citizens have been DISPLACED from service industry and manufacturing jobs and REPLACED with illegal immigrants. 4. More and more mental institutions that used to house mentally ill people have closed since the 90s dumping more people on the streets. 5. If there is anything good about the privatization of prisons, the good thing would be if you can't work....the prisons don't want you and will often find reasons to kick you out and set you free so they don't have to take care of you. A lot of people have been dumped out of the prisons and jails and on to the streets since the 90s.

Did you try it out to see if it worked?

This so-called "debt" is a joke. It's now over $35 Trillion and growing...... With NO PLANS to pay it off or even pay down on it...lol. People (especially the Republicans) have been running around like Chicken Little screaming and crying about the debt and how the world is going to come to an end and the economy is going to collapse for 40 years or more...and it hasn't happened YET. It's not even effecting the economy. Our economy is stronger TODAY than it was 40 or 50 years ago.

I don't know about the "7 deadly sins", but according to the Bible LUST is condemned. However, as stated earlier...I don't believe in this. Many people who practice the "7 deadly sins" are still living while people who abstained from them have died. Also, there are many lustful and horny people who enjoy good health, plenty of sex, plenty of money, well up into old age. What evidence is there that GOD is displeased with them? It all makes sense when you realize that most of this DID NOT come from The Divine but from the thinking and hands of other human beings.

It IS laughable when you know there's so many people out there like YOU trying to divide us....lol.

frankster Nappy hair and green eyes are traits not phenotypes. Traits are details or characteristics of phenotypes. No....my Research says they are indigenous to the area... If your research are telling you that the ancestors of people who look like this: ....are "indigenous" to Africa, then you need to do MORE research...lol. None of these people look White or even European..... Yes their skin is paler than the average Indian or African.... There are MILLIONS of Europeans in Eastern Europe who look just like those pictured above. Do more research. All Africans are not of the same Nation.....And people do visit their homeland Come on man, now you're playing word games. You know people don't VISIT their HOMES...lol. If America was the home of these Africans....why do so many of us still refer to them as "Africans"? And where did the brown skinned people with straight hair that were here by the millions...where did THEY come from? Troy You really went out on a limb with that statement. Of all the pictures you showed, only 2 people stood out with OBVIOUSLY GREEN eyes. The others pictures were harder to make out. And of those two, neither look natural. Especially the brother with the dreads. How do we know those are their natural green eyes and that they aren't using contact lenses? BTW.... What kind of un-informed people are going around the internet making statements like: "I"m not mixed...I'm African American" 🤔 Most Africans ARE mixed. Half of the people in those pictures look mixed....lol.

ProfD Very well put. I'm sorry bro but I don't think that was well put at all. I think it was DOUBLE TALK, because if you put it in the context of his OTHER statements on the concept of evil...it doesn't make sense. Statement 1. Evil = Absence of Good Statement 2. There is NOTHING outside of Good (which means nothing exists outside of good) Statement 3. Wars ARE evil (but a necessary one) How can wars (or anything else) be evil when evil...according to him...doesn't exist? Make that make sense to me.

Umbrarchist Some powerful organization that does not have the slightest problem with killing people as though they were flies. Who wants to deal with that? I don't....lol. Which is why I said in my earlier post: "If I were to PROVE it somehow....then what? What could I do about it or even prevent ANOTHER from happening, if they wanted to pull it off again???" I can ponder on a lot of things, however I'd rather focus my physical energy on solving problems I actually have a good chance of SOLVING and doing something about.

I'm familiar with it and read through it. Not the entire book, but parts of it. Although technically I shouldn't condemn a book or declare it a fraud until I've read the ENTIRE book from cover to cover to make that determination; sometimes if I'm reading a book and see CLEAR errors and fraudulent claims in it in the first few chapers....I won't waste my time reading further. Especially if it's a so-called "religious" book...which ideally shouldn't contain any errors.

It may be illegal to discriminate based on race in some cases, but it's NOT illegal to discriminate based on LINEAGE and quite possibly ETHNICITY. AfroAmericans aren't a race. We are an ETHNIC GROUP with a historical LINEAGE. Just like Arab Americans, Asian Americans, and Italian Americans. Troy I was a little closer than you were, because I was thinking 74. How I arrived at that estimate.... When I heard he was working for a computer company in the late 70s and could grow a full beard in a couple weeks...I pictured a man atleast in his late 20s if not 30s. Late 20s (maybe) + Late 70s = Being born somewhere around 1950. Ofcourse this being 2024 would mean that he would have to be around 74. Cynique I KNOW you're not in my "league" but you could be in your early 70s, LOL I bet you were rolling your eyes when you typed up this one...lol.

She was a cute young lady...lol. Too young for me....but nice eye candy.

🤔 ProfD Violence in all forms is a necessary evil among human beings especially when it comes to protection and survival. If it's NECESSARY, then how could it be categorized as "evil"? The fact that you HAD to do it means it was basically beyond your control or choice. Even a just court will take "duress" into consideration when determining somebody's guilt. Umbrarchist Intelligence and knowledge and technology are different things. I agree. A couple of White Brits could gun down 100 Black men with spears. No doubt it would make them feel superior. But that does not mean that they could fix the gun if it malfunctioned. But ANOTHER White Brit who MADE the gun can fix it. Or make another one. Or make 5 more and look for MORE Black men with spears to go after. Perhaps those Black men should focus on making a superior weapon themselves. This is why people should KNOW Physics! Again, I agree. However this takes INTELLIGENCE. You can try all you want, you aren't going to teach a retarded person physics or qualify him for an Engineering degree. frankster God/Nature is Infinite....Good is Finite - Good is the Finite Aspect of God. Good is action in tune with Nature Where are you getting these definitions? Are you making them up? There is nothing Outside of God How do you know? How so Because right and wrong also includes CORRECT and INCORRECT. An INCORRECT ANSWER is a WRONG ANSWER Now you are speaking biology. If the 'penis in ear' is part foreplay then it could be consider correct.....'Penis in Vagina is wrong' if the Woman does not Consent Go back and re-read the example I gave. I said, a man who inserts his penis in an ear to make a baby is wrong. Just inserting "penis in vagina" will not result in a baby....woman must be ovulating and man must ejaculate viable sperm Ok. Despite that extra information....my statement still stands correct, does it not? Wars are Evil....The Ends do not Justify the Means. Ok, so your position is that wars are evil. That includes the Civil War. Also, I understand that you don't believe the ends of ending Chattel Slavery for AfroAmericans and keeping the states united which soon gave way to the most powerful nation on this planet, were just reasons for going to war. What we call Evil is the Absence of Good You said there is ONLY good. If there is ONLY good....how can their be any "absence" of it? It would be theoretically impossible. Then, evil wouldn't be the "absence" of good....because it wouldn't exist in the first place.

A couple points: 1. I used to be religious, but I no longer am today. So I don't go around wasting time trying to prove what color Jesus and the Disciples were or did Africans receive Christianity before the Europeans. Those questions are almost meaningless at this point because WHOEVER founded Christianity or WHATEVER color Jesus was....much of Africa is still broke and in turmoil. So how is this helping us today? 2. Talked to a young lady from Central Africa today who spent 3 hours trying to convince me that HER faith (7th Day Adventists) was THEE right faith to have and that I should come to her church. I told her that Africans were far too divided. Divided by culture, divided by religion, divided by complexion and hair texture, etc....

Umbrarchist I too thought you were mentioning all of the engineering and mathematical stuff as evidence that those buildings shouldn't have totally collapsed as easy as they did simply because a couple of planes crashed into them. I thought it was leading to another conclusion. I didn't realize that ALL you cared about was how their collapsed defied certain laws of physics and as an engineer left you perplexed.....for real, lol.

...hmmmm 🤔 Now THIS is the part I'd like to hear more about, lol.

ProfD Sounds like you're saying some evil is justified. So since you consider WAR...even if it's for a greater good..."evil" because innocent people often end up dead; then would you call personal self-defense "evil" as well if no innocent people are harmed? For example...... If a man is walking along with his woman and child and some fool runs up on him and tries to rob and assault them, would he beating that man up be a "necessary evil" in your opinion. Or not evil at all since the only one harm was directed at was the assailant?

You were working back in the 70s? And it sounds like you were past your 20s if you managed to grow a full beard like Malcolm's. Man...you been around a while, lol You need to hook up with our girl @Cynique Or "the nameless one" or whatever she's calling herself now-a-days, lol.

🤔 Where have I seen that name before????? I know this isn't the first time I've seen it, despite you having only 2 posts. umbrarchist I was recently banned from the StraightDope message board. ....doesn't look good on your resume, LOL. I don't have questions about the Twin Towers. I don't believe the official story....period point blank. I don't think most people do. My question for YOU is why waste time pointing out evidence that the public was being lied to and that the official story is incorrect, when most people know this already? What the hell is being done about it? If a group of White men were to come on television tomorrow night in black suits and shades saying THEY were the real reason behind the destruction of the towers and many other recent world events and they did it to promote their global agenda.....what will people DO about it anyway? Fuck the WTC, I have serious questions about that major Earthquake down in Haiti back in 2010 which killed far more people. Talk about conspiracies and what people with a secret agenda are able to pull off. I believe THAT was man-made. If I were to PROVE it somehow....then what? What could I do about it or even prevent ANOTHER from happening, if they wanted to pull it off again???

I think those are good definitions and your ask a good question. I think the term "lady" should be like the term "gentleman".....a term of sophistication and respect. Kind of like in Espanol the difference between a basic "mujer" and a "dama". Perhaps one reared to be a "lady" wouldn't mind being lead by a "gentleman" nor possibly even be offended at the thought of being controlled by one. Where as the average "woman" probably would....lol

I hadn't saw the first Uncle Tom video, let alone the second. Lol...are you saying I sound like an Uncle Tom??? Black Conservatives have some common sense ideas. Not too many, but a few. Especially when it comes to not making excuses for the silly and unproductive behavior of some of our people.

Don't even know the fella...lol. Just picked him because he was a Black PIONEER who helped established Black communities through out the land.

It's a sin only to Bible believing Christians. Along with hundreds of other behaviors and neglections. But if you're NOT a believer in that book, then it's not.

frankster There is no phenotype that is specific to anyone race and excusive from all other races....99.9 percent more alike than different. Nappy hair (not curly or kinky but NAPPY) is exclusive to the African race, as Chevdove and Cynique pointed out already. As far as I know GREEN (not blue or grey) eyes are exclusive to Caucasians. So what were they before the Greeks colonize them? The Greeks didn't colonize them, they WERE the Greeks and descended from the Greeks. Later on, those Greeks mixed in with the local African populations to make the Berbers that you have today. Do you have a painting sculpture or picture of theses Ayrans? The Olmecs were Native..Now Ivan Van Sertima is the Historian who led me to this conclusion but you might prefer a hear a white man.. Did Ivan himself say that they were NATIVE to the land? Africans Visited the Americas Long Before Columbus 🤔 If Africans were NATIVE to the land...how could they VISIT it? You don't VISIT a country that you are naturally from. 🤨 Come on man.

Troy The war against Hitler and Nazi Germany was considered good except by the Germans. The war against Hamas is considered good by ZionistsI and bad by Palestinians and many Americans. Regardless of who wins. Great examples, both. Good and evil are social constructs. There are no universal definitions across cultures and time. This is why you need laws and people to enforce them. I want to argue that there ARE definite goods and evils, but at this point I wouldn't be able to provide proof. But I do agree with your second point that as humans we need fair laws and they need to be properly enforced. ProfD War is a necessary evil among human beings as long as they have to protect themselves for survival. If it's necessary, how can it be evil? Evil intentions lead to wars. An individual or group of people decides they want to destroy or oppress other people. What about the example of WWII that Troy cited above? Wasn't that an example of a war started to END oppression and evil (atleast that was the claim)??? Eliminate evil intent. Practice peace, love and harmony. That's universal But if the U.S. didn't involve itself and go to war against Hitler and WWII, wouldn't that have led to MORE oppression and evil as Hitler and the Germans took more and more land and committed more and more genocide? And what about the U.S. Civil War? If it weren't for taking up arms and going against slaver holders in the South...wouldn't the Evil Institution still exist? frankster Only Nature exist. Shadows are the Absence of Light.....do shadows exist? First you say ONLY Good exists. Next you say ONLY Nature exists. Should we take this to mean that Good = Nature? And again, if ONLY Good exists then there is nothing outside of good. So going by your logic evil does NOT exist, right? If you kill to promote or support life....it is not bad or wrong. Hmmm...🤔..interesting concept. Yes ......this is so because Right and Wrong is often used interchangeable with/for Good and Evil. Right and Wrong is A Social Convention...And is subject to Time Place Situation and Culture Right is based on Good and Wrong is based on Evil....Though it is based on it is not the same I agree Although I would say that right and wrong...in many cases..are more than mere social conventions. While "good and evil" may be up for debate depending on religion and culture, some forms of right and wrong involve simple LOGIC. For examples: 2+2=4 is Right 2+2=19 is Wrong A man who inserts his penis in an ear to make a baby is wrong A man who inserts his penis into a vagina to make a baby is right. This goes beyond religion, morality, and culture....and is about basic math and science. Wars are the wrong and thus evil So you believe the U.S. Civil War was wrong and evil? Also, I thought evil didn't exist since ALL was good...according to you.

Some. Very few. But some of these young cats under 30...I'm seeing them do shit we just instinctively knew not to do. Like run up and talk to a woman you SEE another man is kicking it with. I've seen that so many times it's ridiculous. You see my man got her up against the wall, all up in her face, and she's grinning and blushing away....and you still run up in her face....IGNORING THE DUDE TWICE YOUR SIZE...and try to have a conversation with her like he's not even there. What do you think somebody like THAT is going to do with their Reparations check???? 🤣