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Read it about 5 times and STILL didn't see an actual name of a person that Black people should have voted for or should vote for today. A lot of complaining, insults, baseless accusations, etc....but no actual NAMES for who Black people should be getting behind to support. So the question remains to you sir:

Rev. but the earth is getting closer they skin cancer is on the rise birth rates are down divine judgmen Ok, now how do you know this to be true? Did you get this revelation of divine judgement DIRECTLY from the Divine World Itself? so the fight is not with us it’s with what they can’t see Yeah but, can YOU see it either? Have YOU actually seen and spoken with the Being or Entity that you claim is going to fight with them and did They PROMISE to do so? I've asked you so many question and you've answered so few. Can you atleast answer SOME of the questions I've posed to you. The way you avoid my questions, I'll have to start calling you Rev. Run after all.....lol.

Neely Fuller Jr said that if you don't understand RACISM....what it is and how it works...everything else that you DO understand will CONFUSE you. He didn't say what you "think" you understand, but what you actually UNDERSTAND...will still confuse you. Why? You'll be running around scratching your head trying to figure out why there are so many homeless people, or so many sick people, why don't your insurance cover this, why are the police allowing that.... So much injustice and so many problems in this society won't make ANY sense to you, because you left the factor of RACISM (what it is and how it works) out of the equation. Take RACISM and..... -Pop that in your tape deck. -Slide that in your CD drive. -Insert that into your USB drive. ....and EVERYTHING will start coming together and making more sense.

Rev When I say Indian I didn’t mean Native American I’m talking India continent of Asia how can arrows and bows stop guns never heard of don’t bring knife to a gun fights and people naturally love life the more you see people dying in front of you you give up they use gun gums were an eastern idea.. I thought you were talking about the Native Americans, but the same concept applies. If White folks went over there and oppressed them....then WHY were they allowed to? Again, it would seem that which ever person cursed them would also have stopped them from attacking people. Why curse them in the first place if you're gonna let them do whatever the hell they want to do???? Also, why were they ALLOWED to invent guns to use on people? Why didn't the African or Native American come up with it first? The same people who went around slaughtering and taking land just HAPPEN to be the same people who invent all types of powerful weapons? It's more than a coincidence. They were SMART enough to do it....that's why. another tactics they use they used to kill buffaloes for fun just so the native Indians in America will starve to death why do you think so many white people don’t believe listen idk if u white or u dealing with whites their no statue limitations on murder one day they will have to answer for their documented crimes Maybe. But who guaranteed you that? And I mean did somebody talk to you FACE TO FACE and TELL YOU FACE TO FACE that they were gonna answer for their crimes? Or did you read it out of some book, some script, some scroll, or it just "feels" like they're gonna eventually answer for them? And again, why were they ALLOWED to commit those barbaric crimes in the first place? Don't let your cousin steal my bike....THEN tell me you're gonna smack him around for it. Don't let him steal it in the first place.

Rev So if they were cursed...why were they ALLOWED to go around the world committing systematic genocide? 1. Why didn't the same person who cursed them, STOP them from doing it? 2. Why didn't the people they did it TO....stop them? And don't tell me it was because they had a kind heart and didn't believe in killing. Africans and Native Americans did fight and kill among eachother from time to time. that’s a nurture if a beast a lion care not who or what it kills…and no remorse for what it kills… Yeah but even a LION got sense enough NOT to kill it's own cubs. He'll kill a deer or buffalo to feed TO his cubs...with no remorse, but not his own cubs. What about the American Negro?

ProfD Above and beyond the exchange between Mzuri and myself, the larger debate about healthcare and other social services is really a RACIAL one. In all actuality any adult with an IQ over 100 knows how important it is for society to have a strong safety net; not only for chronic never-do-wells but for well balanced and even successful people who for some reason met with a tragedy or misfortune. Even the right-wing Republicans in Congress who constantly preach against the "welfare state" instinctively KNOW this. They may talk that rhetoric...but nobody want to TRULY live in a dog-eat-dog sink-or-swim environment. They really want to preserve those social services and medical benefits for WHITE PEOPLE...and keep Black and Brown people from enjoying those benefits. That's what their rhetoric is really all about. So they have to speak in coded language and point at welfare queens or drug addicts or anybody to justify why they're cutting back benefit and insist on covering SOME but not covering OTHERS. But people who aren't as smart and educated as them will listen to this and BELIEVE it....which is why you got so many rednecks with no teeth in their mouths flying a Confederate Flag and yelling: "I sure wish the government would git their rotten hands off my Medicare! I like it just the way 'tis!!!"

Rev So let’s say I want a mansion right now I know someone who has it is it okay for me right now to go to their house kill them and take it because I want success 2 things: 1. You're confusing RIGHT-WRONG with SUCCESSFUL-FAILURE They are two different concepts. Success is accomplish your goals, whether they're right OR wrong. White folks have been successful in accomplishing the goals they set out to accomplish REGARDLESS of how wicked and evil they have been. 2. You're acting as if White folks are wicked but many of our people are not. Just like a person can be smart and evil, a person can be STUPID and evil at the same time. Go to some jails and you'll see people who are evil as hell but STUPID enough to commit their wicked crimes and ended up getting caught. Just because Black folks were enslaved and mistreated, doesn't mean many of them weren't wicked and evil too. A lot of our people are MURDERERS, THIEVES, and RAPISTS too! But they murder, steal from, and rape eachother. White folks came in and started doing it to THEM. So while BOTH groups might be evil....the White folks were SMART enough to practice their evil on somebody else. black folks are naturally nurture by nature our hearts are built with compassion SOME of us are, not all of us. If you fall down on the street and hurt yourself SOME Black folks will help you up and ask if you're alright, and some will keep a foot on you while going through your pockets trying to rob you. It depends on the person.

I don't blame people for collecting the checks if it pays more than some funky service industry job with a red-faced White man yelling at you and got your running back and forth across a greasy kitchen floor slinging hot french fries all over the place. They are trying to use the workers as GUINEA PIGS....to push them back into the economy and see how many will get sick and drop dead before GDP drops. They have it already calculated how many will die, get too sick and disabled to work, and how many will be temporarily sick and still be able to work. They are gonna TRY to keep this economy rolling no matter how many drop dead. The question is, how many Black folks are stupid enough to go to hell with them to keep their economy propped up.

ProfD No, absolutely not....intelligent Black dialog is ALWAYS welcomed. According to Neely Fuller's Black code she's correct...but everyone doesn't follow that code so it would be unfair to hold people to it who are unaware of it. In the scenario I gave Mzuri.....I didn't say ANY floozy who lays on her back and get's pregnant by DeMario and his friends. I was talking about a well balanced married woman with three kids by her working husband with a good job. But her husband is KILLED in an accident. She hasn't been introduced to the code, and she SURELY didn't see that happening like most people in that situation wouldn't. In the world's richest nation we should be able to provide for that sister and her children so that with all she's going through dealing with the death of her husband, trying to raise children by her self, ect...the last thing she should have to worry about is keeping a roof over her head and going into prostitution and other illegal activities just to feed her kids. That's what women end up doing under Conservative ultra-Capitalist "do or die" societies.

Rev Walk with me for a minute......... -If somebody put a curse on them that the sun will burn their skin. -And they go into a laboratory and come up with a lotion to PROTECT their skin from being burned. Then wouldn't that mean they OUTSMARTED the person who put the curse on them in the first place??? Why didn't the person who put the curse on them THINK of that ahead of time, and figure these people might come up with a lotion to avoid the sunburn and make it to where they COULDN'T come up with anything to avoid it? Also, if the entire race was cursed why do SOME of them get skin cancer and SOME of them don't? Do curses over entire groups not work on some people in that group? if you think murder steal rape theft is a good thing maybe everyone just be like the white race do unto others have they’ve done unto you I. Don’t believe in that myself and no black person believes because demise is at their own hands and it’s bloody. If you call that success you have no respect for life for another human being as I see I think you will do the same to get it to if you may the devil be cast out of you my Dear Penpal or type pal why would be the accurate way of saying it internet correspond Brother success is ACCOMPLISHING the goals you set in life. If your goal is to get rich by any means necessary which means robbing and killing, and you actually ACCOMPLISH that and get rich...then you're successful. No, I don't think it's a good thing to rape, steal, and murder people. But I'm not the one who rules the world. They are. And they are ruling BECAUSE they were smart enough to do so. They were smart enough to lie, rape, steal, and kill and the people they did it to collectively weren't smart enough to STOP them.

What??? Lol....girl, get some sleep.

Mzuri Listen, don't give me that "funny face" up there. They don't deserve anything. I take that back... You don't have Kool-aid running through your veins but ICE TEA, lol. People need to stop having children they can't afford and this way everybody won't keep trying to get things for free. Do you see how simple the solution to that whole problem is. Problem is....LIFE isn't that simple. What about the mother who had 3 children by the man she was married to who had a good job and he DIED or was KILLED in a car accident? Is SHE supposed to suffer without a social safety net just to punish a drug addict who's children came as a result of reckless sex? What about the man who worked hard all of his life and ended up getting terminal cancer at 35 and can't afford a nursing home with his social security disability? Now we have Medicaid to step in and help pay for it. But should that be taken away from him since he can't pay for it on his own? See, life isn't as simple as Republicans and Fox News like to make it seem. They'll show you a bunch of blonde haired blue eyed people standing on their front lawn waving an American flag....and IGNORE all of the poor people sleeping on the street and being beat up by the police that they passed by on their WAY to take that "all American" image. Just like the Nazis...who were professional at propaganda. They'll show you a warm, fuzzy, dreamy image just to hide the poverty and mass murder that's REALLY going on.

Rev I understand all you've said........ They rose up and got their wealth and success by murdering, slavery, genocide, lying, mass theft, ect.....yet they GOT IT. They were SUCCESSFUL in killing folks and taking their land. Like you said, they took America, Australia and other lands. I'm asking you what kind of "curse" allows a man who is a rapist, murderer, and thief to GET RICH and be successful? Do curses allow you to have success, land, and wealth? "I say ole chap......... It's getting a tad bit close to tea time. Perhaps you boogers might be good fellows and lower my thrown that I may indulge." If being exposed to the sun was a curse for them, why were they allowed to MAKE sunscreen to block out much of it's rays....and go sun bathing? Why were they allowed to build hospitals and discover medicines to TREAT their skin cancers. If you're cursed with something....aren't you to "go through" it? You don't go to a laboratory and come up with a way to get AROUND the curse.

Rev What kind of "curse" allows people under it to rise up, enslave people by the millions, and rule the world? It's time to let the Bible go and leave that religion alone.

Mzuri So when I praise the Veteran's Administration and the U.S. Army for the excellent medical care they provide to us, I am a SOCIALIST. Not simply praising it. But when you BENEFIT from it and USE it, you're benefiting from a SOCIALIST program. How are you gonna bite the very hand that feeds you? The medical care that my Husband risked his life for thirty years to receive that benefit. BTW, he's a 100% disabled Vietnam veteran with diseases and ailments from being exposed to Agent Orange, among other things, so he's more than entitled to those benefits and this is the last time I will be posting on this topic, because you have no idea what we are dealing with and it's not some joke. It's terrible that you two are going through such an ordeal. This should be more of a reason that you'd be offended that rich White kids like Donald Trump were able to get deferments and AVOID his duty to serve his nation like your husband did. While Black, Brown, and poor kids were forced to go over to Vietnam and risk their lives...his millionaire father BOUGHT him a "get out of 'nam for free" ticket where he didn't have to sacrifice. If that doesn't make your blood boil...it's made OUT of Kool-aid. But then when you demand medical benefits and free housing for everybody that ever bought a bag of potato chips, you are NOT a SOCIALIST? I think EVERY human being deserves medical benefits and a home even if they didn't buy so much as a pack of chewing gum. They deserve it because they're HUMAN. But as far as politics and the U.S. This is the richest nation on the planet. We have TRILLIONS to waste up in the deserts of Iraq and Afganistan. Surely we can afford to provide every American CITIZEN with free healthcare and housing for those without a home. I'd rather see money spent on American citizens than given away to the Chinese, Germans, and Mexico as "foreign aid".

Rev He meant HE wasn't the one calling you that. I said it was something I kept wanting to call you because just the word "Rev." alone sounds so similar to Rev. Run. But I have to catch myself and just keep the "Run" part off, lol.

No I don't believe people are borned cursed or entire races are be cursed. There are many many thing we don't understand about why some people are more successful than others, but I don't believe it's due to curses. I do believe much of a group's success in life have to do with their collective INTELLIGENCE. How well can they think and plan? How well do can they figure things out and retain information? How well can they control their temper and emotions? I believe a lot of our people have low intelligence and THAT'S the major problem. Not all of us, but many of our people don't have the intelligence to defend themselves from the racists who control the planet and because of this...like the "slow kid" at school....many are constantly being taken advantage of.

nels If you don't understand that you've been gaslit by the Democrats, the RINOs, the Left, the CCP, the Oligarchs, the Globalists, the Mainstream Media and the like, then there's little value in trying to mature this exchange. If you believe a BILLLIONAIRE from WALLSTREET has your best interest in mind and went to Washington D.C. to "drain the swamp".... "I tell ya.... No one understands working-class values like me!" ....then YOU'RE the text-book example of being gas lit. I did not resume engaging in discussions on these boards for the fun of it I know. The White Republicans put a battery in your back and SENT you on an online mission to sway the Black community and get them to either vote Republican or not vote at all. The question is. How much butter did they promise to slab on those biscuits...lol Mzuri Don’t let these people frustrate you. Don't worry, he's not frustrated. The only time nels will be frustrated is when them White folks cut his money off...lol. When they take his online psy-ops gig away from him and send him back to being a stock-boy up at LOWES. "Look man...can't you read??? It says it right there on the PACKAGE It takes a philips OR a flathead....damn!" .....you'll REALLY see a frustrated nels, lol. Mel And we won't even GET into the voter suppression and outright voter fraud of the 2016 election when Hilary got 3 million MORE popular votes than Trump but somehow he ends up winning the Electoral College???? Why does this keep happening? Serious voters don’t go to rallies during a pandemic. But brainwashed rednecks do. They LOVE participating in covid-spreading events Then go back to their jobs flipping flap-jacks at Waffle House and sneezing all over the damn place spreading the virus. When you started with the name-calling, you showed your hand. Glad you know it’s time to fold. #Bye I guess you can say his antics were the final "NEL" in the coffin...lol

Exactly. We don't have a democracy here...we have an OLIGARCHY where a hand full of people sit up and make the laws and rules and the people have to abide by them whether they like them or not. Every now and then when they want to TEASE the people and make them THINK they have some say so...they'll put out a REFERENDUM. They'll bring some issue before the people they've already decided on and tell them to "vote" on it if they want it. But that's only a FRACTION of the laws they actually enact. They didn't ask for a REFERENDUM on the Patriot Act and bring it before the people for a vote. They just got together and PASSED it. ProfD Alright Rev, while I was initially reading some of your posts with a side eye, I see you coming around a corner here. Me too. I keep wanting to call him Rev. Run.....lol "Who's house????"

Chev Yes. ISAIAH is one of the main prophets that wrote about the apocalypse. I don't recall Isaiah writing about the Apocalypse. Refresh my memory with scripture of him actually writing about the end times. And yes again MOSES is the one the main ones that started the prophecy of End Times altogether!!! What???? What part of the Bible does Moses talk about the end of the world? I don't recall reading any of this. Yes again for KING DAVID!!! All of his decisions were based on the First and Second Coming and End times. That is what the term NEVIIM means!!! LOL. It refers to the major prophets of whom wrote about the 'TIME, TIME and HALF OF TIMES' meaning Chev it's not that complicated. You're adding your own extra spin on things. "Neviim" is simple a Yiddish spelling of the Hebrew word "Nabim" which means Prophets...plural. Plain and simple. the 1000 + 1000 + 500 year time period upon which afterwards would begin the End Times Judgment Period! Ok, now that's 2500 years...from WHAT date? Every Book in the Bible is written by prophets and so, everything written, whether it is parables, historical entry, other civilizations, other empires, or etc. everything revolves around prophecy of End Times So Matthew was a prophet? Mark was a prophet? Luke was a prophet? John was a prophet? Was Paul who also wrote a lot of books in the Bible a prophet too? Yes, it's relevant. Definitely because, as it was also prophesized about the Black kingdoms continually giving into White Supremacy, it was also prophecy that God got tired of delivering them, so he let the Gentile who came to the light continue for A TIME, TIMES AND HALF OF TIMES! It is prophecy that they would do the same thing that the Black kingdoms did and separate from God... hence, Separation of Church and State on July 4, 1776. It didn't SAY this in the Bible. You're FILLING IN the blanks by super-imposing these dates and ethnicities on the scriptures that don't mention them. You're trying to FORCE the scriptures to reconcile with your personal views. People have been doing that with scripture for THOUSANDS of years.

Mzuri Trump didn’t dodge the draft, he received a medical exemption, by you repeating your lies is not going to change anything, just keep losing your own credibility. A medical "exemption" for a healthy 20 something year old man in the middle of a war IS as draft dodge. It's the common way RICH kids like Donald Trump dodged the draft. His millionaire father paid some doctor to whip up a bunch of lies to send in and keep him from being drafted in and he did it FOUR TIMES. You should be upset that while your husband put all those decades in serving the nation.....some ELITIST BILLIONAIRE got to tap dance right out of selective service and his duty to the country. And had the nerve to then turn around and try to LEAD it. That is their parents’ responsibility. Don’t you think? No. Because their parents don't always have the money to give them the care and treatment they need. Just like YOU may not have the money to give your husband the care and treatment HE needs and must rely on the Government to help. It's the responsibility of SOCIETY to make sure children get proper medical care if they are sick or injured...despite their financial status or what family they were born in. America is a NATION....not a DICTATORSHIP where only the "first family" deserves special treatment. Right now you just sound like a progressive socialist YOU'RE the one who sounds like a socialist the way you're heaping praise and gratitude on SOCIALIZED medical programs like the VA and Medicare...LOL The VA and Medicare are GOVERNMENT programs, not private. It's the very socialized medicine that so many Conservatives demonize as ineffective. Yet you spend the last few posts bragging on how wonderful government medicine has been to you and your family. What next, demonize SOCIAL SECURITY too? That's also a form of socialism. Wake up and smell the KOOL-AID...before you end up drinking it, lol

ProfD Not a chance...I LOVE my corned beef sandwiches...lol I'm not gonna let a pair of buffalo butts run ME up out the spot.

Most Blk families down South owned land. But they sold it for cheap prices just to leave the racist South and flock to northern cities like Chicago, Detroit, and Philly to get factory jobs or other professions not realizing how much value they actually grew up on. Now many of their descendants are moving BACK down South, and sleeping on the sidewalks of Atlanta.

Rev Haitians nation are meant to rule by a king they tried that they assassinate him he was assassinated by a mullato who. Hated blacks and call himself French so theirs a lot of agents in Haiti that won’t let the country prosper. You're right. Ayiti is was meant to be ran by a King.....as are most Black nations. Black nations don't fare well under "Democracy'....our societies are ran better under the guidance of a righteous and strong leader. One of the reasons the West are going around trying to spread "Democracy" all over the planet is because they KNOW that it doesn't work and leads to chaos and instability in these nations. So they promote it.

Mel Hopkins Yeah, I've dealt with Negroes like this all over the internet. All up on social media, on facebook, on Youtube...in chat rooms and in the comment section trying to sway and confuse Black folks. I know their strategy. To sew doubt....indifference...CONFUSION in the minds of Black voters. When a person is scared or confused....like a deer caught in headlights...they STAND STILL. They know if they come RIGHT OUT and say "vote for Trump" or "vote Republican"....that will spark a debate by someone challenging them. So they just put a seed in your mind to not vote at all. That's good enough to to ensure that a Republican will get in the seat. The only place they really didn't try this tactic TOO much with is in the California Governor's race. If you notice, Black Republicans didn't say TOO much about Gavin Newsom outside of expressing their dislike for him. But very few Black Republicans/Conservatives showed any support for Larry Elder...who is a Black Conservative himself and pushes all of the right-wing rhetoric that goes along with that role. Why not? Because the right-wing Masters who gives these Negroes their orders told them NOT to. Right-wingers are RACIST..first and foremost before anything else. California Governor is a VERY powerful position. It puts you in line for the Presidency after a couple terms. They may not like Newsome but they'd rather see a moderate and somewhat liberal leaning WHITE man stay in that position before letting a handkerchief head Coon like Larry Elder get in it, lol. Anything might happen..... Elders might get in that position...start feeling a little powerful and FLIP THE SCRIPT on them. "So THIS is what it feels like to be Massa? I get to call my own shots and not have to dance to anybody else's tune anymore....feels good. Feels REALLL GOOD!" He's liable to have an epiphany...stop cooning... and start preaching like Malcolm or something..lol Start giving Black folks in California Reparations and letting folks out of prison in mass numbers. These racists aren't gonna take THAT chance with putting him in a position that powerful, lol. Republican like their negroes where they have control over them. Put them on the internet, in social media, or on Fox News and use them to attack OTHER Blk folks to keep the chaos going....that's what Black Republicans are good for. nels It's not my job to tell anyone who to vote for. It's their job to figure that out for themselves. I'm long past trying to drill common sense into people's heads. They're supposed to be adults, so let them use their best judgment. I've been around the block many times, and I've learned to keep the flamethrower in a safe place at the ready. If you're interested in having a mature dialogue, then I'm open to that. However, if you venture out to far on thin ice, the temperature may rise much faster than you think. Was there an actual CANDIDATE or POLITICIAN that you think Black people should support in all of that you just said? If not...then: WHOO ? WHOO ? Like Woodsy The Owl, lol