Pioneer1

To most ignorant hardcore racists (some would argue that all racists are ignorant....but that's not so) Black is Black and it doesn't matter what a Black person calls themselves or what country they came from. I said to the IGNORANT ones. But the SOPHISTICATED and ELITE racists think differently. They know that DIVIDE AND CONQUER is a strategy that has worked for them excellently over time, so they continue to employ it. They may not like any Black people but they like some better than others based on their ability to use them and profit off of them. For work, Africans are preferred. For entertainment and AfroAmericans are preferred.

You know what..... I edited my post to Troy 3 times.....each time deciding whether or not to ask was DEATH the "freedom" he was talking about as being a choice, lol. I eventually decided not to ask him directly because it may have looked little strange IF this were the furthest thing from his mind. But I knew it wasn't the furthest thing from YOUR mind because you mentioned it being an option as opposed to oppression a couple of times, lol. My PLAN was to dance around the question a little bit by asking other questions that would narrow it down TO this....lol.

Squo? I didn't know West Indians were beefing like THAT on the Eastcoast, lol. In Michigan they didn't have much to do with AfroAmericans and there was often tension on jobs, but the only time you'd hear about a Jamaican or Haitian killing somebody is if there was some sort of criminal activity involved like rival drug gangs. Infact, I didn't see a lot of real West Indian gangsters until I started going to Canada. In America, most of the West Indians tended to be well educated and professional.....or business owners like restaurants and small shops. It wasn't until I went to Toronto and saw a bunch of bruthaz in standing on the corner smoking weed and looking like the Wu Tang Clan in dreadlocks. I stopped to greet them and couldn't understand WHAT them niggaz were saying...lol "Whatta bumba clotta chat meh fa???" Neely Fuller Jr. said, try to talk to the WRONG Black man on the street and you'll end up getting chased DOWN the street....lol.

Which pretty much means that progress in these industries would STOP, in that country....lol. Whatever type of car is currently being produce...will be the type they'll be producing for the next 100 years. Whatever type of clothes people are currently wearing....will be worn for the next 100 years. Inventions will grind to a halt. Why? The government is making everything so there is no incentive to improve and do better.

Including New York. When I was in New York and Philadelphia several years ago I was surprised to see so many Mexicans and other Central Americans in those places that I thought were Puerto Rican and Dominican strongholds. I remember coming to West Michigan 30 years ago back in the 90s and although it didn't have a HUGE Latino population, most of the Latinos here were Puerto Rican. When I moved BACK here the Mexican and Guatemalan population over took it and is now the majority among Latinos. This is one of the reasons you don't find too many AfroAmericans getting out there and protesting ICE. We instinctively know that it's not good for them to just "take over" the entire country by the millions like that....especially when they have such a strong and isolated culture. We instinctively know that something needs to be done and should have been doing years ago.

But what was her ROLE in the show? Was she...with her dark skinned self....held up and praised as a beauty symbol or sex symbol? Plenty of dark skinned Black women have been featured in television shows and movies since their inception, but they weren't held as beautiful or as the standards of beauty. Any woman can play the role of a maid or prostitute.

Interesting statement. Lol.... Once a person makes the CHOICE to be free, how long do you think their freedom will last?

Well first of all, THEY aren't in a position to speak for us anyway. They can't even help themselves against racist targeting by law enforcement, so what can they do for AfroAmericans? As ProfD already pointed out, most of those people did nothing to help us. They sho' nuff benefited from OUR fights. We ended legal discrimination in this nation....and they took advantage of it. We ended racist discriminatory immigration policies in this nation....and they took advantage of that too. And as soon as they go here they started linking up with White Americans and being discriminatory against AfroAmericans themselves. Not all, but most. Most immigrants in this nation SHOULD be deported. They aren't helping AfroAmericans, they are a hinderance. Infact...... With all of this talk about AfroAmericans standing to the side and not getting involved, I wonder if AfroAmericans were the targets of racist federal forces would they not only NOT help us but actually sign up to help the feds! We know that many Latinos and Asians want to take our place in America. Perhaps they'd be cheering it on.

Car manufacturing is very profitable. Why would people allow just ONE automaker? Anything that involves generating a lot of money will produce multiple manufacturers....usually in competition with eachother. Whether it's cars, weapons, perfumes, candy, or dope.

It depends on who "their people" are, or what people you are referring to. There are 2 distinct groups in the United States who are closely linked to eachother and usually overlap: Black American and AfroAmericans. Black Americans are....as the title implies....people of the Black race who are American citizens. AfroAmericans are the descendants of enslaved Africans who are primarily Black but mixed with other races to various degrees. Almost to the point that many aren't even Black at all. Miss "AfroAmerica" can feature light skinned contestants but not Miss Black America, in my opinion ofcourse.

...gonna have to pick a side, and stick to it, lol. Can't treat America like you treat Starbucks. Walking up in the joint and enjoying the privileges but refusing to buy anything on principle. "I got this for free. My manz bought it for me on the strength. ....cuz' I ain't spending MY money up in this token of capitalist imperialism."

What's even funnier is I actually changed it a minute ago....lol

ProfD Well, I know our brother calls himself as a "DOSer". I haven't been DOZING off during our exchanges.....lol. But that doesn't really identify one's nationality or citizenship status. Most Jamaicans and Haitians are DOSers. as well. Well people can "consider" themselves whatever they want. But ICE is going from door to door right now, so they better hurry the fuck up and make sure their paper work is backing up anything they claim...lol. 📢 "I will NOT open the door! I don't consider myself under your authority and I declare immunity. Banish from my premises at once, you disgraceful vagabonds!"

Actually, you make a pretty valid point. Especially when White folks get tatted up. Subconsciously...I think it's their way of adding some color to their skin.

richardmurray your, not our, me and mine are not part of the our you speak of. Oh... You're not part of the United States? Well you eat, shit, and pay taxes here. So you're being cheated...lol. It is the same reason far east asia has the least militaristic presence of western europe, distance. distance is a powerful thing, and worth alot when you can't beat a bully That and they weren't as technologically advanced when it came to weaponry. So canada or mexico had a different origin in key ways financially but also militaristically. and not we, you or yours, not me or mine. Well SOMEBODY'S military is protecting you and keeping the Asians and Arabs from flying over here and forcing you into a submissive workers....lol. They're protecting you from being a DOS-er to becoming a straight up S-er....lol. not us, you and yours. Well, shit...... What nation do YOU belong to? And more importantly, how does THEIR military compare to ME AND MINEZ...lol??? I am nt and have never been statian and said it way too many times to require repeating. What are you? I thought you were a citizen here in the United States. What country are you posting from when you're not in New York? Because in the usa's case it is just luck, fate. Over 100 years of just "luck"??? Ok. either or both depending on who you ask. Remember the usa has always had multiple financial positions. Another sign of high intelligence and being smart enough to diversify. Some black or non black have always believed in private ownership leading the way, thus private hospitals, the logic being people will figure out a way to afford a hospital or move. Some black or non black have always believed municipal activity, the government enganging in services to the public, the logic being it represents positive graces among humans, regardless of the cost or tax burden. Some black or non black try to find a bridge between both Some black or non black are anarchist who don't want either. So whose fault? I don't know. It all depends on point of view. But why should ne point of view be correct or wrong? Because some points of view are logical and reasonable, and thus valid. If it's not logical or reasonable, how could it be considered correct unless SHOWN to be so through example and proof? But as I try to answer every question, I will provide an answer, which I have said before. All ideas are effective based on implementation. To reword, currency is merely an idea, if implemented a certain way to a certain place or time it will succeed . If implemented other ways it will fail. but that is with all ideas. socialism/monarchy/vendetta... implementation is always the key, not right or wrong. And luck can be the key to implementation, not any human planning. But some ideas....as great as they may sound....CAN'T be implemented. Which makes them wrong. This is why I've repeatedly asked for an example of this economy or that society which implemented that particular "idea". If a particular idea is constantly being promoted but we don't have any example of it being implemented in real life, there's a good chance that this is the case because it CAN'T be implemented. Those who think or THOUGHT it was a good idea have repeatedly TRIED to implemented it and failed.

There's nothing wrong with being unique and expressing one's creativity. That's admirable. The problem is when that expression is motivated by self-hatred and especially a hatred for Black racial features like dark hair. You see a some of our sistaz dying their hair blonde and red and even green, but how many of them dye their hair BLACK? Jet black hair is far more beautiful than blonde, in my opinion.

ProfD Just when I start feeling a little empathy.....just a little bit.....for the immigrants being chased down by ICE...guess what happens? I go outside. I go to a grocery store that used to be owned by White folks and Latinos took it over a couple years ago and I barely get any service from there. The people who work there are so openly racists it's almost a joke. You can be standing at a counter waiting on service and they'll serve a Latino BEHIND first....lol. Just another reminder of why Black Americans should stay out of the way and let what happens....happen.

Although it may have SOUNDED like it....that statement wasn't suggesting that the modern medical and pharmaceutical industries ARE the ones with all of the cures. Certainly they have a lot they're sitting on. But the cures are out there in many different region that Western science doesn't even know about. Some are yet to be discovered or re-discovered. Speaking of HIV specifically...... Back in the 90s the Nation of Islam with Dr. Alim Muhammad was working on effective treatment for those afflicted with the infection.

There's a cure for EVERY disease and/or illness out there.

frankster I have no argument with that.... Was the Vietnam war Officially Approved By Congress? They used semantics of Police Action or Armed Conflict.....its all Polytricks I'm not sure. It was called a "police" action. Just like Korea. But you don't "police" other nations or even other people outside of your jurisdiction....lol. They aren't subject to your laws. What if Mom says....otherwise? Sheeeeeyid, mom is the one who told DAD to enforce the curfew...lol. She figured yall'd listen when a man tells you....lol. Which is the case with the fed and state over cannabis....as you mentioned. It's a little more clear cut with that issue. The Federal government has declared Marijuana illegal...regardless as to any state or local laws to the contrary. It should be illegal FOR states to make laws like that because it leads to too much confusion and actually is breeding grounds for racism and other forms of discrimination. The state will make it legal and let people of ALL races sell and use Marijuana not knowing it's actually illegal. Then a racists federal officer can start picking and choosing to go after the Black users and sellers and be justified by pointing at the federal laws and how they supersede those of the state.

They are trying to show as many Black people as they can in these protests. They are trying their BEST to try to just PUT niggaz in the middle of it.....lol. I think Black folks have done a good job on social media trying to stay on the message of "stay out". A lot of the Latinos in the area are giving Black folks the side eye too! They are trying so many tricks and provocations and are angry as hell that none of it is working. Now don't be under any illusion............Black Americans WILL get involved. We're really what it's all about to begin with. But we'll get involved on OUR terms.

Well..... Both of them were from Harlem and are great dancers...lol. I think one time a long time ago but after Biggie's passing, Puff and a few White celebrities started calling themselves the new "Rat Pack" like Sammy and Frank Sinatra.

richardmurray nice try, you changed the course Now, how can I change the course of YOUR thread??? race is any factor, phenotypical is just one You have a point. even enough but fredi washington didn't, and more importantly, to the idea of beauty , we black dosers have to embrace our reality. We are a people who were once completely enslaved, that comes with a history of sexual abuse that leads to mixed babies, and the heritage of DOSers in the usa is for the mixed to be part of the black group. That is the heritage. rightly or wrongly. Just because something is part of your heritage, doesn't make it right or correct. Rape and murder is part of the heritage of some nations. Just because mixed people are THROWN into the "Black" category by racists, that doesn't make it a scientific fact. Now to the future, it seems the latin american pardo/casta heritage is settling in the usa, and will finally be the factor to undo what the one drop rule set in. but until then, the yella woman is black. She's not even yellow. That's a White girl in that picture...lol. what determines a black american isn't universallly defined by blacks. the issue pioneer is you keep missing the lack of consensus, means every black in the usa doesn't see anything in one way. Truth and facts aren't based on "consensus". Is fire not hot unless enough people believe it and accept it to be? Is a tiger a reptile if only 25% believe it's a mammal but 75% accept it as a reptile? Consensus doesn't change that which is. Especially when the population in question is miseducated or confused about the issue to begin with. I disagree 100% , again miss black america or miss black usa prove you wrong. In media things that black people/dosers actually own or control in the usa I find the advertised image of black women is usually not upheld through the lens of the yella women but through the cocoa women. but both are still black. And as for all the black or non blacks in white owned media who emphasize the yella women over the cocoa women in the black populace, well, that is white owned media. It's changed recently. I remember when the only media that gave dark skinned women their propers WERE the White media. For a long time Black media was pushing light skin and White featured as ideal with the occasional honey brown sista if she was pretty enough. The only time a real dark skinned sista could get on is if a White man though she was "exotic" looking enough. And usually the dark skinned Black women they put on were from Africa or the West Indies...not the United States.

I HOPE you're not implying what I THINK you're implying.

richardmurray globally recognized? not everyone views Mensa like that? humanity is quite large you know. disability does not make one dumb and to education... i argue education is rarely designed functionally, anywhere in humanity. Global doesn't necessarily mean everyone ON the globe...lol....but people AROUND the globe. so you believe in smarter and neutral, not smarter or dumber... ok Don't over complicate it...lol. -There are no dumb nations -Some nations are smarter than others two big oceans border the country, That factor could have been just as easily worked AGAINST our favor as IN our favor. Some would have seen this as geographical isolation from the rest of the world...especially the Eastern Hemisphere. But intelligence didn't let this stop us. neighbors who have always been impotent or at least not able to strike hard, and only two by land. If they were/are impotent...why? They are nations made up of human beings just like the United States. So why would we be so much powerful unless it's due to intelligence? a financial history, including the white european colonial, where inequal or uneven financial system allowed for the production of weapons at larger quantities than most, not quality , but quantity. For me, nazi germany or soviet russia built better weapons by a mile than the usa, but no one produces more than our friendly neighborhood white slaver. I'm not sure if you're correct about the weaponry of Germany or Russia. But the fact is both of those nations....unlike the United States...were lacking a sizable Black population. The Black population of the United States is one of the key features that make us a global power because it's the source of our superior entertainment that's marketed and envied across the globe. No weapon the usa has is exclusive to the usa, but usa has more of them. But none of the usa military rivals had enslavement like the usa. russia was an empire and cossacks and checyens were abused but they weren't enslaved like blacks to whites in the usa. The soviet union has a pro european bias in its populace, a heritage from the czars, but russia has been battling all of its life it has never been far from a rival. China has never been far from a rival, and its neighbors have at times been far more powerful. so the usa has fortune on its side, most empires do. IT isn't smarts or intelligence. Perhaps the superior intelligence OF the United States above other nations (a fact that you insist on denying) is part of that fortune! hmmm, the heritage of the usa is private care, ala fiscal capitalism, if you can pay for a doctor you have one. public hospitals heritage in the usa is from pro bono work, not for profit. They're CALLED private hospitals but they're not really private. They're actually corporately owned hospitals for the public. Corporate is what I like to call "semi-private". Because it's often controlled and regulated by the government but not completely owned by it nor does one person or family own it but usually a huge market of shareholders.....it doesn't fall squarely into the government, public OR private slots. no, nyc has been underserved by hospitals for its entire history Is this the fault of the private hospitals, or the fault of the government for not building hospitals of it's own to compete with the private ones insuring consistent progress and low costs, as well as cater to the needs of the people? universal income will not delete currency, if I said I feel it will , I apologize, that wasn't my intent. I said: This society is far too complex to operate without currency. Your response was: I think a solution exists that I have never seen tried, so it can't be proven. But, I don't think so. I took that to mean that you thought operating with currency was a problem that needed a solution. You just said that universal income will not delete currency. However how do you feel ABOUT currency and the use of currency in society?