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I'm a firm believer that as AfroAmericans, if left alone by other races....we would DEFINITELY work out our own problems and thrive successfully as a community! Infact, I think we would be one of the most productive communities in the history of humanity....if left alone to do so. The problem isn't just the monsters and those with mental illness among us. Every community in humanity has those to deal with. The problem is we have little CONTROL OVER the law enforcement of our community, from the laws, to the policing, to the sentencing, to the punishments. Our community is pretty much at the mercy of the White men in charge and THEY too often have the final decision; which means the monsters and predators end up being released (if ever arrested in the first place) and sent back to the 'hood to cause more death and destruction. Trust me, if we COMPLETELY controlled our own communities in the U.S.....you wouldn't hear about stories like this in the U.S. Why not? 1. That couple would be married, or they wouldn't have a child together....one or the other. 2. That man would love his wife and son so much he wouldn't have thought of doing somethign so heinous to them. 3. And if his love wasn't enough to stop him, that man would have been in SO MUCH FEAR of the consequences coming to him from the other men of the community that he'd dare not commit such a crime.

This is one of the reasons I constantly say the righteous among us need to unite and build our own communities instead of going our separate ways. Being apart and doing your own thing doesn't always work in this society. I don't know how he would have turned out as he got older, especially in the family situation he would have grew up in....but that little boy deserved a future. A better future. How many of our children have to grow up in these fucked up environments before the righteous and intelligent among us have had enough and are willing to build SOMETHING to provide an oasis for us in the midst of a chaotic society.

I understand what you were saying....... However when you said the facts contradict my statements. That sounded as if my statements were ABSOLUTE with no exceptions. There's a difference between: "When you're sitting home alone and nobody is calling you up to have sex with you....that's real" And: "Ugly people are NOT having sex. They are sitting at home lonely and undesired" I rarely make absolute statements, regardless of how my statements are read or understood.

Body of missing Florida 2-year-old found in alligator's mouth The boy’s father is being charged with murder. The 2-year-old was discovered missing after police found his mother slain in her apartment. A missing Florida 2-year-old whose mother was discovered slain in her apartment was found Friday in the jaws of an alligator, St. Petersburg police said. The child’s father has been charged with murder. A detective shot and killed the alligator, Police Chief Anthony Holloway said. “We didn’t want to find him this way, but at least we can bring some closure to that family now,” Holloway said at a news conference. Taylen Mosley had been missing since Thursday, when his mother Pashun Jeffery, 20, was found killed in her apartment, police have said. Taylen MosleySt. Petersburg Police Department via Facebook She had been stabbed multiple times, Holloway said Friday. The child’s father, Thomas Mosley, is charged with two counts of first-degree murder, the police chief said. The child was found near Dell Holmes Park, which is close to Lake Maggiore, almost 10 miles from his mother's apartment, Holloway said. Family members saw Jeffery and her child Wednesday, and on Thursday, they asked an apartment manager to check when they couldn’t reach her, police have said. The boy's cause of death will be determined by the medical examiner, Holloway said. Thomas Mosley checked himself into a hospital and had cuts on his arms and hands, Holloway said, and he remained hospitalized Friday. He did not speak to detectives and requested a lawyer, according to the police chief. Online case information did not appear to be available Friday night, and it was not clear if Mosley had an attorney who could speak on his behalf. A search for the boy included dogs, a drone, and federal and state law enforcement agencies. An Amber Alert had also been issued for him. Body of missing Florida 2-year-old found in alligator's mouth (nbcnews.com) St. Pete mother stabbed over 100 times before toddler thrown in lake: affidavit Story by Nathaniel Rodriguez • Yesterday 2:51 PM ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. (WFLA) — The father accused of murdering his 2-year-old son and his mother has been booked into the Pinellas County Jail. Thomas Mosley, 21, was charged with the murder of Pashun Jeffrey, 20, and her 2-year-old son Taylen Mosley after Taylen’s body was found in the mouth of an alligator Friday, according to police. Mosley was accused of killing Jeffrey after celebrating his birthday at her apartment, according to newly-released arrest affidavits from the St. Petersburg Police Department. Jeffrey and Taylen were last seen alive at 5:15 p.m., when the last of Jeffrey’s family members left her alone with Mosley. Taylen Mosley’s body found in alligator’s mouth; father charged with first-degree murder, chief says Police said Mosley was unaccounted for until 9:03 p.m., when he showed up at his mother’s house with gashes on his hands and arms, “consistent with injuries caused by slippage during a knife attack.” He admitted himself into St. Anthony’s Hospital to treat his wounds. Jeffrey’s body was discovered at 2:30 p.m. on Thursday, after her family asked apartment staff to do a welfare check on her after they spotted blood on the sidewalk. The young mother was found on her bathroom floor with over 100 stab wounds, the affidavit said. Thomas Mosley (Credit: Pinellas County Jail)© Provided by WFLA Tampa Investigators found a bloody fingerprint on a bottle of cleaning solution, which allegedly matched Mosley’s and was intentionally stashed under the bed, according to the affidavit. The affidavit said there was a bloody shoe print with the Gucci logo in the room where Jeffrey was found, but the redacted document did not specify how that is connected to the case. Investigators determined Mosley left Jeffrey’s apartment at around 8:42 p.m. He allegedly brought Taylen to Lake Maggiore and either threw or placed him into the water, according to St. Pete police. Mosley then went to his mother’s house, which was about 10 blocks away from the lake. Taylen’s body was found the next day in the jaws of an alligator. Police euthanized the animal and recovered the child’s body. According to Jeffrey’s family, she had just started living on her own while taking care of her son. “This was her first month to have lived here and very happy to have a better place than what she had before,” said Theo Brickhouse-Sails, Jeffry’s great-aunt. “And for a 20-year-old, she was doing well. She wanted more out of life.” “It is my condolences going out to the family and to his loved ones,” he said. Thomas Mosley now faces two first-degree murder charges and remains in the Pinellas County Jail, as of this report. He has an appointed public defender and pled not guilty to those charges during a hearing Saturday morning. He is being held without bond and was ordered not to have any contact with Taylen nor Pashun’s families. On the affidavit, police indicated he may have mental health issues. According to a GoFundMe started by Taylen’s maternal family, funeral arrangements are being made for the child and his mother. Copyright 2022 Nexstar Media, Inc. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. For the latest news, weather, sports, and streaming video, head to WFLA. St. Pete mother stabbed over 100 times before toddler thrown in lake: affidavit (msn.com) This is such a sad story. It's not the saddest I've heard, but for some reason when I read it last night.....it hit me. Not sure why. Thinking about that little boy and the sad situation he probably witnessed only to end up dead.😪

ProfD I don't think NF Jr. ever had a wife or kids. He even tells us his teachings are a guide. Use what is most beneficial. Yep, he's has (had?) both. If you can dig it up, he often talks about living in YOUR city....Washington D.C. back in 1968 during the MLK assassination riots and how when they were burning down one end of his block, he had a firehose trying to put out the fires and save his end. When a caller asked why, he said because his wife and kids were in there. Ofcourse he calls them his "care unit" and "progeny" instead of wife and kids, but I believe he did use those terms a couple times to describe them. Jealousy is a negative emotion like greed, envy and hate. It's destructive at best. Nothing good comes out of it. There is no such thing as an inherently negative emotion. GOD gave us these emotions for a reason. There are negative USES of it....but jealousy isn't negative in and of itself. Sure jealousy can be destructive and get you in trouble. But if manipulated correctly...can be a great motivator and provide with with tremendous energy to accomplish goals, set boundaries, and protect the assets and people you love. Show me a man who never gets jealous... And I'll show you a man who probably never had anything to be jealous ABOUT, lol. If you never had shit, you never had to worry about anyone trying to take it from you. Anger is a natural emotion too. One must be prepared to pay the mental and physical price if it leads to a destructive outcome. Facts And just like Jealousy, Anger...if manipulated properly...can be a powerful motivator and energizer. Desire is no different than a dream if there is no action. A man has do the work that puts him in a position to call shots. Facts Men in other cultures aren't holding the women as hostages. Thr women have been indoctrinated by their culture. The women are on code too And MORE FACTS Although the men aren't holding the women hostage, many are doing so much for the women in terms of providing jobs for them, building housing, providing a home, supporting the children, etc....that it wouldn't make a lot of sense for them to walk away from them seeking men from another community. It's easy for the average AfroAmerican woman to walk away from the average AfroAmerican man because he's not providing anything for her. He doesn't pay her rent. He doesn't employ her He can't keep her out of jail He doesn't provide her or his offspring with healthcare. What does the average nigga have to offer besides sex and MAYBE some protection if another nigga tries to break in the house? Maybe....hell, he might beat HER running to the bathroom to hide until the cops come.

ProfD The evidence contradicts your statements. Many 'ugly' folks end up with children. Somebody's hitting them. True, but many isn't most. And how did this fact contradict my statement? Being ugly or unattractive for most people leads to many lonely nights....do you disagree? The same people who will make fun of and diss someone as ugly will creep back over to them late at night. True again, but this is an exception...not a rule. Some ugly people still get plenty of sex....some or most don't. The examples you describe, you may as well said you knew a gay dude who got plenty of coochie because women were hot and horny for him. Yeah, he was an exception.....but MOST gay men aren't getting it because they don't want it. A man will tap an 'ugly' woman if they get horny enough. Same goes for fat women. This is true. But some of these dudes will screw another DUDE if they get horny enough. A woman will sleep with an 'ugly' man if he has money and/or is well endowed. True. Manytimes he doesn't even have to have that. But I think things tend to be different for men and women in that regard. Although looks matter to a certain extent, I believe it matters less to women than to men. People are funny creatures. They will say one thing in a crowd and do the opposite in the dark. I know this to be a straight up fact! I knew girls who called me ugly all day long, but then turned around and was in my bed or just in my arms looking for some comfort as soon as they got a little tipsy or had problems. However regardless of my looks, I always had a masterful mouthpiece on me....lol. Or atleast most females find my running my mouth entertaining, whether they take me seriously or not....lol.

frankster I would not call it Jealousy but .....Territorialism. True. But at the root of it, it's jealousy and covetousness. Men who desire power and control over their environment.....instead of succumbing to a victim mentality. In that sense maybe you are seeing Black Women as the exclusive property of Black Men....and not Sovereign Individuals in and of themselves. Correct. As most men who aren't oppressed and haven't learned to be comfortable being helpless see the women in their community. Which I would say is a behaviour exhibited by white men for years over white women. My point exactly. .....because they haven't been oppressed lately, so they think like conquerors, not slaves. A slave has come to acknowledge he has no control over the women in his community so he stops caring. Where is the threat....if two human beings decide to hook up? If you had a wife and she decide to "hook up" with another man, you wouldn't see a threat? You may not being lying.....but is that a behaviour to be model after? It's not the most ideal, but it's certainly more honorable than the behavior I see exhibited by most AfroAmerican men which is simply and truly not caring one way or the other. You aren't going to walk up into an Asian establishment and sit with a table full of Asian women and not have the Asian men sit their wondering WTF??? Infact, the women probably wouldn't even do it WITH YOU....because they have too much respect for Asian men to do that infront of them. Asian women cross ethnic lines more than any other ethnic women Yes....with White men. And most Asian men I've talked to don't like it, but say there's little they can do about it. Which would you rather see them with... any kind of Blackman or a good man regardless of his ethnicity/race? If those are the only 2 choices.....neither. Maybe I am wrong but I sometimes like seeing so called interracial couples When it comes to Black people dating interracially..... I'd rather see a Black man with a Black woman, however I will tolerate our men being the ones to dip outside than our women do it because they are more vulnerable and when women dip outside of the community it is more dangerous and harmful Again, this may not sound fair....but it history proves that it works. A community can remain strong while the men are screwing women outside of it, but when the WOMEN start doing so....it will collapse quickly. I think Justice in this case would mean allowing people the freedom to choose who they want..... Being there to protect that freedom of choice is the best way to show you care As the Bible says... There are ways that SEEM right unto man, but the end results are DEATH. There are many things that may SEEM fair and just, but the results of them are death and disaster. On the other hand, there are things that SEEM unfair and unjust....but the results are progress, prosperity, and stability. Men in charge and having control over who their women associate with outside of the community SEEMS sexist, barbaric, and unfair.....but it appears to work much better for other communities than the laissez-faire mentality of letting the women do and screw whoever she wants and not worrying about it, so many Black American men have. This CLEARLY hasn't worked for our community. So now you are segregating black women into classes....classism I didn't segregate them....they are ALREADY segregated into different classes, lol. Infact, this can be said about the men too as well as the men and women of other communities. That's human nature in general. The crack ho and or hood rat are black women who are usually most vulnerable...aren't these the individuals most in need of help guidance and protection. I don't know if they need the "most" help, guidance, and protection....but most of them certainly need a lot. Some of them need to be kept the hell away from our healthy community as well. We should focus are resources on those in the community who are actually TRYING to improve themselves and their community, not those who've given up on life and humanity and just exist to manipulate people, harm others, and have fun for themselves.

Also, we must question those DOING the defining and codifications. It is well known in even the Western scientific community that: 1. African people tend to have denser and heavier bones than Caucasians. 2. AfroAmericans including the women tend to have more muscle mass than Caucasians. These 2 acknowledged scientific facts SHOULD be taken into account with evaluating AfroAmericans as to whether they're obese or not. You can't paint everyone with the same broad brush. Look at Oprah Winfrey. She was overweight...and what some call obese. But when she lost most of her weight she just didn't look right because her head was too big for her body.

But what is NOT an opinion is when you're sitting at home alone and ain't nobody calling you up or trying to have sex with you. That's real. You can tell a girls he's beautiful all you want, but if the boys are staying away and won't have anything to do with her and treat her cruelly....she's going to know she's different than a lot of the others in school.

ProfD according to NF Jr., Black men aren't qualified to be husbands or fathers. 🤣 But whether we're qualified or not, Neely Fuller Jr. has BOTH....lol. And I doubt even at 93 he'd let any man come up and mess with his wife either...lol. This is why I listen to Neely Fuller Jr. but have to take some of what he says with a grain of salt. The reality is Black men cannot afford to be jealous if our sistas decide to date someone else. It's a natural emotion that SHOULD rise up in us whether we can afford to or not. It shouldn't be something we have to "reason" about. It's like some strange man cussing at your mother. You don't stop and reason what SHE might have done to anger this man, you just automatically get angry and offended because it's your mother. You SHOULD be offended when someone you love is threatened. Unfortunately, the ratio is not even when it comes to Black men and women being of equal status. There are many intelligent and successful sistas who will have a hard time finding a brotha of equal or higher status. A lot of them are out there, even if they are not FBA. However the point is, they should be kept with us whether we're "good enough" for them or not. If a sista is smart and wealthy, all the more reason to keep her in our community and not "let" her get with men of another. While there are always exceptions, in every other culture, the roles of men and women are clearly defined based on their traditions. They have a code. True. Until Black men are better prepared to take care of Black women, it makes no sense for them got jealous and start huffin' and puffin' and yellin' and cussin' because they can't afford them. You're correct. And being "better prepared to take care of them" starts with a DESIRE to take care of them in the first place. A lot of our brothers don't have that desire, which is why they could care less about other men running off with them. If the Black man fails to get his weight up and stay on code, Black women will find themselves in someone else's arms. If as men we continue to let them. Most men of other communities don't give their women that "choice" whether to stay or go. There's little or nothing a Black man can do about it especially if he's broke, er, underfunded and/or dumb, er, unintelligent. I agree. Especially if he's stupid....there is little he can or will do. He doesn't have sense enough.

You can kinda of tell her bone structure by how wide her hips are and how round that butt is. I don't give a damn how fat a woman gets, if the bones aren't right on her hips and tail bone....that fat won't hold up. It'll sag and bag. Also you can look at her face, her jaw line....and tell how much of that is fat vs her natural structure. Her face is pretty smooth, no double and triple chins. No ploppy jaws wiggling and jiggling as she moves. She just doesn't look or move around like an "obese" person, she seems to be in her natural weight.

Damn that looks fake. Dude looks like a mannequin. That's probably why if you dye your hair you shouldn't use jet black dye unless you're Asian, lol.

Hey, I have a question for the ladies of the site....... Do any of you find grey or a completely white beard or hair on a man attractive or unattractive? I'm talking the grey or white hair alone, I'm not talking about other features that come with aging like wrinkles, sagging muscles, big bellies, or other characteristics......I'm talking strictly hair. Assuming all factors remain the same, if a man has a full head of white hair or fully white beard...would you find him just as attractive as if it were fully black? I'm interested in hearing from women of various ages BTW.....not just those in our age group. If there are any women in their 20s who are lurking and want to chime in....they are more than welcomed to do so....lol

I happened to come across this thick African sista a few minutes ago on Youtube: Now she obviously has a lot of body fat, but should we call her "obese"? Her body index probably would classify her as such but if you look at her bone structure and how wide her butt and hips are, despite the crotch grabbing....she's obviously wonderfully made (in my opinion atleast) and looked pretty healthy. Her fat is "firm" and not hanging off of her in blobs like melted cheese.

The Office Friends That show about some weird White man who comes from another planet and is good at math....I don't even want to google it right now...I for the name. Orbit around the Sun or some shit. Those shows were just made for a White audience.....plain and simple. A middle class White audience. The only time I've watched them was when I was over someone else's how and they had it on, or I was in some waiting room and it happened to be on television. But those shows are like ELEVATOR MUSIC.....no power of attraction or attention what so ever.

I've noticed this since I was a kid. A lot of White people who are freaks and weirdos who don't get any respect and aren't wanted among their own people will often start hanging out with Black people. They'll even start adopting some of the slang and mannerisms to fit in more. It got to the point that when I started seeing a White dude come around us too often I'd ask him was he gay, schizophrenic, what's wrong with him....I knew something HAD to be. It's so sick, some of them even have communicable diseases and STD's and they love sex so much, they don't want to give it to other White people so they start hanging around Black folks who end up infected. I'd tell him to his face, "Your OWN people rejected you...now you want to hang around us huh?" But as I mentioned before, a lot of our people are so inlove with White folks that they'll overlook any weirdness or problems these "White rejects" may have and embrace them as their own.

I touched on this in another thread recently and I went a little more in depth with Mel some years back when I said I don't like and in many cases do not tolerate White men or men of other races "getting their goodies" with the best of our women. I don't believe Black men are jealous ENOUGH. Especially when it comes with seeing our women interact with men of other races. We can get jealous with EACHOTHER and often engage in all types of playa hatin' tactics to throw salt in eachother's game when it comes to the opposite sex. But when it comes to that White boy hanging around trying to start conversations and sneak a giggle or two from our sistaz....most Black men act like they don't even see him. They act like he poses no threat what so ever. You can't mess around with an Arab, Asian, or Latino (even a Black one) woman in the presence of men of that same ethnicity without them staring over trying to see what's going on and some of them even giving the women dirty looks. Check it out and see if I'm lying. That's one of the reasons you see so many Black men with Black women or White women but not too many others. Those men are HIGHLY jealous and HIGHLY protective of their women, and many of their women seem to either enjoy it or not care. When I find a sista who's attractive, intelligent, and knows how to act like a lady....that's a PRIZE. Not trying to see them prance off arm-n-arm with some greasy haired White or "almost" White dude, talking about how "in love" they are with eachother. And if you're a Black man and you don't mind seeing this, YOU are part of the problem. That's right! You don't care enough about your own women to want to keep them, hold on to them, and protect them from being snatched up by other communities. Why? Because you don't prize them or hold them above other women.....so them leaving or being snatched away doesn't matter to you. Now I'm a fair man and I believe in Justice. I'm not going to physically stop a Black woman from being with whatever man she chooses. However I have and I WILL make it crystal clear that I DO NOT like the best of our women even having CASUAL conversations with White men let alone getting into relationships with them and having sex and children with them. Let them find a crack ho or some hood rat if they have a Black fetish, but leave our good sistas ALONE.

🤣 -anyone wanna guess how this asshole would explain UKRAINE????? More White folks have been killed, raped, and slaughtered there by other White folks in ONE YEAR than all of the Black gangs have done to eachother in the U.S. since 1970. So many White folks are killing eachother in the Ukraine, it's causing a shortage on bullets around the planet.

Well, who is "ugly" is largely a matter of opinion. And because of that, you can be sure to find PLENTY of "really" ugly people because someone really does find them ugly.

I mentioned this before but as usual, a lot of people didn't take me seriously and thought I was joking about it..... The typical and average form of marriage in the New World will be GROUP MARRIAGES. Not one man with one woman. Not one man with several women. Not one woman with several men. Nor will it be men with men or women with women. All of those will exist to a certain degree, but they won't predominate the marriages of the future. The typical marriage of the future will be MULTIPLE men with MULTIPLE women all raising their children together as one unit. Almost like mini-villages. But this will be the case in urban as well as rural environments.

Yeah, I forgot about Rodney Campbell. For some reason, when I'd read his writings, the name "Rodeny Cambpell" didn't seem to go with the knowledge he was dropping.....lol. Seems like he would have changed his name to something like "Amiri Kunjufu" or something, lol. We need our brutha back. Cynique Do you know how DISRESPECTFUL it is to sit up and fantasize about and long for another man when you have 4 or 5 STRONG BLACK MEN right here on this site already dropping all kinds of knowledge and science?? Naw....I don't think you do. You NEED to learn how to respect and appreciate the blessings you HAVE in your presence already.

Chev You might drop a few points and next thing you know, you'll be hooking up with the Wolfxx in some out-of-the-way coffee shop somewhere.....LOL. 🤣

Chev Yeah, Retta isn't a bad looking sista despite her weight. She's got big breasts and a big butt so that offsets the big belly and huge arms.....lol. I'd certainly like to share a bed with HER more than the other 3 women she's sitting up there with.. I don't really watch either of those shows, I think I saw a few episodes of the office. The only thing I really liked about the office was the dark Indian girl in it.....Mindy Kaling. Other than that, I didn't care too much for it.

Well...... I checked out her wiki page and it said her grandmother was African-American.....not necessarily Black. Which makes sense because I don't see a lot of "Black" in her at all. Even that so called "Black" grandmother was probably mixed. You know how it goes around here in America. If you have ANY Black ancestry in you, the public....including a lot of Pro-Black people....will just toss you in the "Black" category and identify you as Black for the rest of your existence. Now speaking of Carols...... If you said Carol BURNETT had a Black grandmother....I would definitely believe that, lol. Looking at her lips, nose, and the amount of energy and talent she had in her performance, seems like she had some Black genetics someone below the surface.

When he's in cuffs and behind bars......for over a week....then I'll believe he COULD end up in prison.