Pioneer1

Lol.... Is 57 really considered "old" now a days???? Compared to a 22 year old maybe, but....generally speaking??? I don't think the brutha is a fool for using is money and fame to get sex and female attention. I have a problem with him spending it on a WHITE woman. However other than that, it's what I would consider a business transation. She wants his money. He wants her. They get together and establish an understanding where both parties are satisfied. This shouldn't be illegal. This is the United States, not Iran or any other Theocracy where sexual activities are outlawed or severely restricted. I say let consenting adults do what they wish among eachother. Speaking of sex and age. I'm not far from 57 myself and I frequently get pushed up on by African women in their 30s and 40s at work and on the streets. Things are definitely changing from 10 years ago where it seemed like they didn't talk to Black American men. They rove around in PACKS now giggling and giving me and many other Black American men the "eye"...lol. Especially those of us over 40. It seems like regardless as to how they look, a lot of (perhaps even most) men under 30 don't seem to attract women much now a days.

Death isn't the enemy, it's a benefit. No matter how bad life is, imagine if there was NO death at all and you were stuck in that situation. Death is actually a TRANSITION to other Realities. But the fear most people have of it is natural. That Survival instinct was put in us for a reason.

Man, where has the time gone...... It seems like it was just YESTERDAY I was watching Mayor Nagin on CNN cussing out the reporters and accusing the government of bringing the dope into the hood on live television. I think that may be one of the reasons they went after him later on.

Mel Now here I was thinking this thread was dedicated to me personally, only to open it up and see a whole pack of OTHER names tagged in the OP...lol. Always a pleasure when you drop by and kick it with the fam, young lady. I'd come here to fight with @Pioneer1 - every time I do, I learn so much about myself, Maybe you learn more about yourself, but clearly you aren't learning much about ME or you wouldn't waste so much time arguing with me...lol. But hey.....lol....whatever it takes to get your attention.

richardmurray I don't know. That is the wisest plus honest answer to your question. I know you don't "know" for sure, but I ask do you BELIEVE this to be the case? That generally speaking they feel that they are supreme over and better than people of other colors and that this belief in superiority feeds their egos and helps maintain the system???? As an engineer, a system of supremacy isn't worth much when it allows the people who are supposed to be supreme to be harmed. They consider them "sacrifices". Indeed, a lot of Whites ALLOW themselves to be sacrificed to maintain that System. Maybe you have the same definition of white is me, maybe you don't. but in your statement I quoted, below some of whom you suggest are not white I suggest are "There are not only towns but ENTIRE REGIONS of the United States where it's almost all non-White Latinos and even a few nearly all Asian regions. They aren't White....but White folks haven't stopped THEM for grouping together and doing their thing." Notice how I said "non-White Latinos". If I make a statement like that, it clearly suggests that I do consider some Latinos to be White racially speaking or I wouldn't have made that differentiation.

The mistake I DO think a lot of Black Mayors and other politicians are making right now is publicly decrying Trump's move to put National Guards in cities to reduce crime. As I said, it's nothing more than a political stunt but the OPTICS of it serves many purposes. One of which....like you said...is to make White people in America feel safer. But another is to put a Black face on crime in America and make it look like it's Black people who are causing the crime and violence in the United State. Black politicians coming on and standing to a podium to voice opposition to it makes it look like they SUPPORT the crime and violence, when we know that's not the case. I've been noticing an uptick these past few weeks of images of Black people being attached to crime and violence in the media. It used to be all about Chicago....now they're focusing on Cincinnati, D.C. , Baltimore, Houston, and other areas. Every time a car is stolen....and a Black person did it....they have it on national headline news along with the face of the suspect. Adding to the propaganda. Black politicians need to find a way to reduce crime and increase the standard of living in their jurisdictions but meanwhile they need to find a way to make THEMSELVES look like the ones who reduce crime and get the criminals and thugs off the street; not racist White politicians. They need to be on the front lines of the media propaganda war to make THEMSELVES look like the law-n-order good guys.

I don't even think Russia is serious about THAT anymore either. If that's the case, why are they abandoning their so-called "allies"???? Iran Cuba Libya Syria All of these nations had agreements with Russia for some sort of protection but when the shit hit the fan, Russia stood on the sidelines. They may send in a few weapons from time to time but for the most part they have been giving little more than moral/oral support since the late 80s.

Troy Pioneer even a cursory knowledge of American history tells you that race in America was about ancestry. Not necessarily. Most AfroAmericans have Native American ancestry and many...from a genetic standpoint...have MORE Native American ancestry than African ancestry. However the fact that they have ANY African ancestry got them labeled as negro/colored/Black by default. The whole notion of passing wouldn’t even be necessary, but in this country passing as a thing because again it being black is not about what you look like You say "this nation" as if a handful of White men who run the nation and make the rules speak for and represent the thoughts and sentiments of everybody in it. For example, you say: The way you choose to group people is at odds with the way they were grouped in this country for most of its existence. While you are correct generally and for conversation's sake, you're really expressing the opinions of the White racists who ran this nation, not necessarily the total population. You're making THEM the end-all and be-all authority of who gets to define race in the United States. You're GIVING them the power to define your reality and challenging Black people like me who choose to do it for ourselves. The reality racism really is on its way out despite the media fixation on a relative handful of wing nuts You said he's on his way out.... But it looks to me like Racism is sitting in the living room playing dominos. ...and Donald Trump just pulled up a chair to join the game, lol.

richardmurray Well, you suggested a number of things to others I ponder to. First you suggest you believe, you are not certain, of the majority philosophy of whites in the usa. ....based on observation and history, yes. It's clear that most of them believe in upholding the system of Racism that benefits them. And that is fine, no one can know the future. If you are correct then your following stratagems hold wisdom BUT if your wrong, it can spell the greatest disaster for black folks in the usa at least. If I'm wrong, I'd have to be proven a such before even entertaining such thoughts. Second , I don't know what determines a white person is wise or elite Their position, wealth, and authority in this society. Elon Musk, Bill Gates, the Devos family.... These are among the wealthy White elite in the United States. Third, I am not certain any fiscally poor people are needed. You assume whites need blacks for their egos or leeching ways but I am not certain of that. Neither you nor I believe that White people are "supreme", however do you believe that White people support a "white supremist" system in which they THINK they are supreme over others? Fourth, when you say "usually coming from" what percentage ? in the Jim Crow era, by my assessment most financially wealthy whites were talking separation and whites only. Now you suggest that most fiscally wealthy whites lied about wanting blacks separated or away from them to sate fiscally poor whites. While I can't prove or disprove I can definitely say the argument can be made for or against that You can say that about 90% of what you see and hear in society...lol. Pioneer1 : "I think those two are in love." richardmurray: "Well I can't prover or disprove they are. An argument could actually be made for or against them being in love!" First, my knowledge of history is lacking, when have black people in opposing white terrorism in the usa won at the end of the day ? I don't recall. Seminole Wars Numerous confrontations by the Deacons of Defense Numerous confrontations by Black Panther Party Numerous skirmishes of the Nation of Islam with law enforcement. There's a quite a long list of BATTLES where Black people have fought back and won. The WAR is still waging obviously and Whites are still on top, but the individual battles do exist. For me white and light asians + latinos are white. I know you see them differently, but being white for me isn't about being european or speaking english. Who said that was how "I" defined Whiteness???? what do you mean by Actively Oppose? By active opposition I mean if when a White group aggresses against a Black group for unjust and racist reasons, that Black group immediately retaliates in an equally or greater aggressive way and defends themselves. A good example would be when the NYPD attacked a Nation of Islam Mosque in Harlem back in 1972 and got their asses handed to them and ran out of the building. Only to end up facing an angry mob of Black folks ready to riot out in the streets....lol. 1972 Harlem mosque incident - Wikipedia

I believe Trump...just like the Presidents before him....COULD drastically reduce crime if he wanted to but he won't. This is just for show. Kind of like the immigration raids. I see just as many Latinos running around today as I did last year. So WHO are they detaining? Where are these raids being conducted because they haven't hit West Michigan yet...lol. They don't want to reduce crime they want to CONTROL crime and violence and keep it contained in certain communities. Some people were outraged over the killing of that intern and of that Jewish couple a few months back and demanded something be done, so this is the response. Not a serious one but one for show. They NEED crime to keep the economy going....and growing.

ProfD All that you said pretty much supports my assertion that this thing is orchestrated. It's not a serious conflict between two serious enemies but more of a game, well rehearsed and acted out with the "little people" being sent to the front lines to die in it.

ProfD NATO is already involved. They're supplying Ukraine and making veiled threats against Russia. This is why I say this thing seems staged or orchestrated. If they were serious about actually winning they would have escalated things by now and brought them to a head. Even 2 invidiuals don't fight like that. If you and I are neighbors and end up beefing with eachother, we don't spend 5 years giving eachother flat tires. I flatten one of your, then you do the same....every month. Just poking holes in eachother's tires...nothing more....and waiting until the other one responds in kid. Then we buy a new set of tires and do the same thing over again.....for 5 years???? That doesn't sound like a serious beef between two men. That sounds more like some game.

An American citizen actually living IN the United States watching the antics of the Trump Administration for entertainment is like pulling up a chair on the corner and watching 2 rival street gangs bang on eachother. You're not exactly in the safe zone yourself....lol.

....or the criteria of most people who have 20/20 vision and good sense, lol. But I guess in a world where men can call themselves "women" and have that legally enforced, who's to say a White man can't be called "Black" and that simply be accepted without question also?

Perhaps BOTH....at the same time. One man's "utopia" is another man's "dystopia". If you need an example, start with Chattel Slavery in America.

Cynique Call it what you like, but "little" it's not....lol.

Some would argue that WW3 already started on 9/11. And it's been "on going" since. But as far as the commonly believed WW3 that is supposed to be the nuclear war between the U.S. and Russia..... If it hasn't happened by now, I'm not sure if it will. I think we both have entertained the theory that those nukes aren't for eachother but really for the darker nations who would dare pose a SERIOUS threat to the global white power structure. ...if all else fails. Russia and Ukraine have been going at it for over 3 years now but NATO has yet to get fully involved and Russia hasn't provoked them. I'm not sure what's going on but this isn't a "serious" conflict. Oh, there are people dying by the thousands sho'nuff. It's serious in THAT regard. But neither side is really going all out to "end" it and win it. It seems to me that if they were actually serious, nukes would have been used already because their nations are being destroyed and people are being killed ANYWAY. If you know it's headed in that direction, what difference does it make if your nation is destroyed in 3 years or 3 days?

Because you dragged your yellow ass up into MY thread and decided to drop your (valued at below 1 cent) comment on it....lol. Sure did go to a lot of trouble to log on and go back and forth over something you don't care about. You said you weren't feeling well. Stop arguing with me when you know I'm right just for the sake of being contrary...lol. Take it easy and enjoy yourself on this Sunday morning.

That list actually seems to line up similar to my list in favorite movies. "Malcolm X" and surprisingly "Black Panther" are in my top 5 Another powerful movie by Spike Lee that I'm surprised isn't on the list is "Miracle At St. Anna" It's right up there with Glory in my opinion. Perhaps even better. I have YET to see the movie "Moonlight". The things I've heard about it....involving homosexuality or atleast homosexual suggestions between some Black males was a bit of a turn off. Has anyone seen it? If so, would yall suggest me watching it?

Man........ Yall ever seen a post that was so on point that there was simply nothing to "add" to it....lol

Ofcourse you're not waiting, because you know they don't exist....lol.

Cynique Nobody (including those who attempt suicide) really KNOWS when they are going to die. They may have some estimation or idea, but don't truly know for sure. You may end up out living everybody on this forum. Whenever I don't hear from somebody for MONTHS at a time, it makes wonder what happened to them. And even when they're posting, you don't know what kind of condition they're in or how they feel. I still think about people I used to interact with on Discussion Forums from 20 years ago...lol. Especially Black people from around the planet with different cultures and different ways of seeing things. It taught me how strong of an impact MY words had on people and the impact of words and relationships with other human beings in general.