Pioneer1

Exactly..... If you are in a prison.....and sentenced for life without the possibility for parole...why not become a Trustee or seek some high and privileged position inside the prison? Again, the key factors is "without the possibility of parole".....meaning no chance you're going to get out.

Troy Think that through for second… I have. I suggest you think OUTSIDE of the box and ponder on what I said about multiple Realities. The omniscient being you are referring to can move through time the way you or I walk up and down the street. The concept of the passage of time is nonsensical. Time is just a REFERENCE. It's abstract....used to mark what which is concrete. What is moved through isn't "time" itself, but the different Realities in which the concept of time exists. They could observe something that “happened” 2000 years ago or 2000 years in the “future” it’s all the same. I wouldn't say it's "all the same" but yes, they could move 2000 years back into A past or 2000 years into A future. I bet you have no problem accepting that you can’t change the past, the future is no different. You probably can't change YOUR past, but there are MULTIPLE pasts just like there are MULTIPLE futures. In another "past", Word War 3 has already occurred and this world has experienced nuclear destruction. You still didn't answer my questions about why "evil" should be punished if the deed was already pre-determined to occur; and according to that logic...does "evil" really exist?

ProfD & richardmurray Lol....huh???? At any rate..... Our people are so far behind other groups in terms of just the basics like providing food, housing, and even clothing for ourselves. Like I said, the Romans, Egyptians, Ethiopians, and other groups were able to do these things for themselves THOUSANDS of years ago. AfroAmericans don't even make TOILET PAPER for ourselves. If White folks stopped making toilet paper, it'll be a shitty time in America.

If there IS a Civil War....it will be started by poor and lower middle class Whites.

Several hundred???? Good brutha.....try SEVERAL THOUSAND years behind, lol. We aren't even doing what the Roman's were able to do. Even they had a military, thousands of square miles of land, and a way to feed their population along with skills for major building projects.

On top of what ProfD just said, I'm also a huge supporter of CONTRACTS between parties.....including SOCIAL CONTRACTS. In other words, if you want US to do this for YOU....then YOU must do this for US. No more unconditional support for other groups simply because they are of color or even share the same color. I support letting these other groups know CLEARLY that if you want the support of FBA/AfroAmericans.....then you need to support our fight for Reparations, and if you're going to sleep with our women then we need to be able to sleep with yours. If you want us to support your businesses then you need to support ours.

I'm not married, but I learned early on in my 30s that marriage wasn't for me. I like my personal space. It seems that some men just TRY to make it work....I mean they try REAL HARD to make it work no matter how many times they fail. They don't want to accept Reality. Some men just aren't meant to be in long term or committed relationships just like some women aren't. I'm glad I was born and raised in the United States where atleast we have the option NOT to get married despite the peer pressure from certain people and family. In many if not most other countries, you're EXPECTED to get married as soon as you reach a certain age. If not.....you've shamed the family and are considered an "outcaste". As far as our brother Cornel.......... I can see how 5 divorces can break a man financially, however as smart as he is and as famous as he is with that charismatic gap toothed grin being infront of the cameras for over 40 years.....practically a household name in Black America.....I don't see how THAT brother could be struggling financially. I wonder what Tavis Smiley is up to....lol.

ProfD When I was in my 20s I had a conversation with a former mayor who ADMITTED his was a member of the fraternity commonly known as the Boule. At first when we were talking about it many years ago.....he stared at me and told me I wasn't supposed to know about that and looked at me some more and after a few words, he walked away. A week later he came back to me and asked me how I knew about the organization and we had a long conversation and although we didn't become running buddies but we developed a bit of a friendship over the years as we would talk about different things that happened around the city and current events and the state of Black people when we saw eachother. He....like other members I've met...had a different perspective or "take" on his organization than what most Black folks in the conscious community have. Most conscious Black folks who know about them see them as Gate-keepers for White rule. But they see (or atleast sell) themselves as a group of professional Black people who formed an organization to look out for their own best interests in a world dominated by White racism. If a person truly believed that White Racism and White Rule are obstacles that can't be removed or overcome and that you MUST work with them for any success, I can understand why one would join an organization where they could atleast get SOME benefit, wealth, power, and prestige.

Not necessarily. Because there may be MULTIPLE futures in MULTIPLE Realities. An individual's future may be yet to be determined depending on their choices. The Omniscient Being knows the DIFFERENT futures/outcomes of all the DIFFERENT directions they could go but they still can go in any direction they choose.

I didn't know he was divorced that many times until I just read it here and did a quick research on him. Man...this actually changes the way I look at the brother to be honest. And the fact is, he's currently married to a non-Black woman. I'm now wondering has ANY of his former wives been Black? But regardless of their race, for a man to get divorced that many times in his life makes you want to question his judgement or personality and question why he can't seem to get along with the people who chose to settle down with.

This raises another question......... When one individual interacts with another....do they share ONE SAME Reality or is it TWO SEPARATE Realities temporarily or partially integrating and engaging eachother?

frankster Well, if your dial is stuck on "Aryans are Black folks from Iran"....I'm not going to try to move it for you, lol. It's HISTORY. Unlike Chemistry or some other Sciences, one of the things about HISTORY is you usually don't know for sure who or what is the ABSOLUTE truth because you weren't around to witness it or verify it, let alone PROVE your argument to others.

ProfD If the Baby Boomers were guilty of anything, they were guilty of partying and celebrating their PERCEIVED victory too quickly. Yes sir, they indeed put in the work to achieve a measure of Civil Rights and "Black Power". We can take that away from them brutha....we just can't. However when they got a LITTLE victory and when some bruthaz were able to snuggle up with a White woman with a joint in his hand...he forgot about the struggle that he thought was already won and focused on partying and having a good time. The children...me, you, and others...saw this and took the cue that the struggle was over too. Reagan woke everybody up....lol. Many Gen-Xers overcame the odds of poverty and/or the lack of a solid economic infrastructure and managed to become successful. Unfortunately, many Gen-Xers were conditioned by that cycle of poverty. In turn, they also bred more n8gglets. The cycle continued. Solid facts, but I'll tell you something bro......... A lot of the problems in our community can't be blamed on past or current generations. Just like a lot of the homicides can't be blamed on drugs. And a lot of the broken families can't be blamed on feminism or the after effects of Slavery. A lot of our people...a certain percentage...are just FUCKED UP. Even under relatively IDEAL conditions a certain amount will be fucked up and we have to have a system to deal with them. I'm of the belief that the White Racists who run the society AMPLIFY the dysfunction of our community where if WE were in charge we'd have a system in place to check them. A certain amount of people in ANY community are just jacked up and self-destructive and an effective and responsible community has measure in place to deal with such people.

With a life long career in academics.....it would be even MORE interesting if Troy wasn't actually a MEMBER of the Boule himself....LOL. Sitting up there scratching his head like he never heard of it "So.... Tell us more about this.....'FBI' agency you say is tapping your phone. What does it do? Where did you learn about this organization?"

Precisely....lol. This one to be exact?

Troy 1. How do we know that another Reality we enter into is also pre-determined? It could be totally random or just PARTIALLY pre-determined. 2. But if EVERYTHING is predetermined as you suggest, then there ARE NO actions that haven't been pre-determined. If all behavior has been planned and controlled beyond the individual, then they are not responsible FOR their behavior and thus shouldn't be punished....any more than an actor who plays a killer should be punished for his role. Infact....in a PRE-DETERMINED Reality, does "evil" really exist?

It would seem that way....yes. I would say really from the 70s up to the present because heroine did a great job fucking a lot of our people up. Especially in the cities. But Crack went ALL OVER....lol. It's tentacles reached way out into the boon docks...lol. Baby Boomers? Well........yeeaaaaah man....to a certain extent but, I can't lay all this at the feet of the boomers. The White racists are first and foremost the blame for bringing the dope into the communities to begin with and setting the policies. That's established. Outside of them..... The boomers were the youth of the Civil Rights movement and they were the drive of the Black Power movement of the 60s and 70s. They did their part. Now the CHILDREN of those boomers.....born in 1965 and later...failed to carry the torch. Dr.Dre and Eazy E were born around that time in the mid 60s, lol. Tupac was born in 72. Cube and 'em born in 69. I was born in 69. That Generation X has to take responsibility for it's failures.

Troy When my mother said when she moved into the housing project it was beautiful. There were flowers growing on the lawns, and the whole property was well-maintained back then I believe it was only opened to married people, and someone had to have a job. I believe these rules changed, and as a result, the class of people changed. I heard similar from my older relatives who came up from down South and moved up to Detroit. I didn't hear the part about having to be married, or having to have a job, but they told me single men could get a place in the projects back in the 50s and 60s. At some point, that changed to where only women with children could get a place. They also said that the projects were nice and considered a STEP UP from the rat infested tenements and slums that dominated so much of the city until much of it was torn down. NYCHA also failed to maintain the properties very well. I read recently that the projects were in such a state of this repair that the city could no longer afford to maintain them, and are now looking at options to allow private ownership. That too. What I found interesting when I went to Europe and when I used to go to Canada a lot was that those nations had public housing projects too but unlike in the United States, they MAINTAINED them and kept them repaired and clean for their residents. I went to Europe about 20 years ago. I've heard that today Western Europe has let IT'S public housing collapse too as well as Canada. No doubt the demographic shift from mostly White residents to mostly Black and Arab residents has contributed to them allowing their public housing to deteriorate the same as the U.S. has. They say in Eastern Europe where there is far less immigration from Africa the public housing is still in great shape and well maintained. Another major thing that happened was Section 8. The purpose of Government housing projects was to provide a place for poor people to live because private land owners were charging too much for rent and property. Section 8....where you take government money and put it in the hands of private land owners was the very OPPOSITE of why Public Housing was established in the first place. richardmurray I have no idea who are the decent blacks. Black people who are fair, peaceful, and don't engage in reckless criminal behavior. Black people who respect property, personal space, and other people...with good social manners. Not to say that a decent Black person wouldn't break the law for a GOOD reason, but they generally don't go around being criminals and thugs for the hell of it. .....in other word, the OPPOSITE of niggaz, lol. What is the largest percentage of black people that you think owned land in the south from the end of the war between the states to the 1960s? Not sure, but a pretty large percentage. My family owned a lot of land that they received after the Civil War and most other Black Americans I know have said the same thing so it must have been a pretty good chunk. I'm talking MILLIONS of acres. But a lot of our people sold the land because they didn't want to work it or be farmers. They'd rather move up to bigger cities and go work for other people in jobs they THOUGHT would be easier. I will speak for NYC, the nyc government controlled plus run by whites made sure all the black regions in nycare used for for projects which damage the black populac ein said regions. When the harlem empowerment zone led by bill clinton happened , many black owned businesses in harlem applied, but only one was granted. no black business was given up but per the law you say you respect so much or feel is so badly needed the black busniness were legally pushed out of existence and the black populaces Were there not Black politicians in New York positions to stop or reverse these policies? Did you know the black populace of chicago si deemed 230,000 while the black populace of nyc is two million. that is a significant difference. nyc's black populace could cut away a parallel count from the black populaces of boston/detroit/chicago230,000/atlanta 190,000/new orleans and quite a few other cities and still have half of its size. Yes, pioneer, you talked with your offline peers. Ok, very true, but you plus troy's lives or connections doesn't mean nyc's black populace is too small to include mine. Lol...not sure where you get your numbers from. Detroit has a little over 500,000 Black people living in the city itself and almost that many scattered across the vast metropolitan area. In all, the Detroit area has over 1 million Black people. Chicago itself has a little over 1 million Black people in the city and probably about a million in it's suburbs too...making the Chicago area about 2 million. It may not be as big as New Yorks, but percentage wise it takes up a much bigger chunk since New York has a much larger White and Asian population to offset the Black population.

frankster Neither am I....But since it's Indian - it is Black. Just because it's Indian, doesn't necessarily mean it's Black, though. Remember India is primarily a product of TWO major races: The Black Dravidians and the White Aryans. And many many combinations of those two. Aryans are from present day Iran/Iraq originally called Sumeria.... No, Aryans are from the Caucasus mountains BY WAY of Iran and Afghanistan which would be the modern names of the Persian Empire. But they didn't originate from there. They were passing through. Which can be interpreted as the "Black Headed Ones" - I think that means they were or some of them were Black. The Black Headed ones are the Sag-Gig people or the ORIGINAL people of Iraq and northern Iran. Yes, they were Black...but they are not the Aryans. As I said, the Aryans passed through there and SOME of them settled in the land while others continued Eastward until they got to India. Part of ancient Persia was colonized by Aryans and this is where the name "Iran" comes from. Nimrod son of Cush.... Mighty in Shinar(Sumer) Uhhhhhh....that's...the Bible. That's a different story all together. Cush wasn't Black and neither was Nimrod...these were Caucasians who invaded the area but...that's a different story all together. Sure...While more English words are from Latin than Germanic. Anglo-Saxons are Germanic I'm not sure about the balance of it, but English itself is a Germanic language. As you just pointed out it comes from the Anglos who were a Germanic tribe who migrated from that area across the channel into England after killing and displacing the original inhabitants of that land. Indians to me are mostly Black. Indians today are mostly MIXED. Some are Black....especially in the South and East, but most are mixed and many are actually still White. Leading to the Idea that all Languages come from One Proto-language(Babel). Now see brother.....you're dealing with the Bible again. Babel and that story in Genesis is dealing with the Caucasians, not with all of humanity. When the Caucasians were coming down out of the mountains a group of them settled in the Bab-El region of Iraq and had to be dealt with, but that too is a long story.

richardmurray What do you find distasteful in most musicals you have experienced? I find most of them corny and boring. I like singing, but I'd rather it be in a song or music video than as part of a movie or play. Perhaps it's the fact that somebody would stop in the middle of a scene and face the audience and start singing....seems strange or weird to me. Do you give musicals a chance or is the advertised concept of most musicals a negative for you? I've been to several musicals a a child, especially ones given in church and on school field trips. I didn't like them then...lol. I've seen less but still a few as an adult, and STILL didn't like them...lol. Maybe I just haven't seen the "right" one to capture my interest. Troy I remember this very well. I can remember when the Jackson 5 came on the Ed Sullivan show it was just so surprising and I was so excited I ran through the house telling everybody. That was 1969. The show Julia was on by then, but Black people were still largely under represented. Yeah, I heard about them and another very popular Black show from the 60s I heard people going crazy over was the Flip Wilson Show. I was born in the very late 60s and don't remember it when it came on but I heard older people talking about how folks would stop what they're doing where ever they were to watch the Flip Wilson Show. People calling off from their jobs or setting up television in the laundry mat or barbershops just to watch it. You HAD to catch it when it came on. There were no VCRS or DVDS in those days so if you missed it you MISSED it...until it came back on as a rerun, lol.

Never the less....it's a good read.

LOL....I'd like to hear more about it too.

Lol....I believe I taught you that.

ProfD 1) Black communities had been flooded with drugs since the late 1960s. Drugs were a poison pill to destroy Black folks in more ways than one. Absolutely! 2) The 1994 crime bill did lead to mass incarceration of Black folks. The majority of whom were non-violent offenders. Absolutely! AfroAmerican youth were already being mass incarcerated since the late 70s but that crime bill EXCELLERATED it. However, another FACT is....while the majority of those locked up were non-violent offenders- *or more specifically, those who weren't CONVINCTED and SENTENCED for violent crimes; because most of those "non-violent" offenders were sentenced under the mandatory Crack laws and many if not most dope dealers and pushers DO engage in various levels of violence and exploitation in their line of work whether they are actually caught and arrested FOR that violence or not* -many of those who were locked up WERE violent offenders who were raising hell up in the hood and needed to be snatched up off the streets anyway. So that "drag net" laws got a lot of thugs off the streets. A mix of both pain and joy. You have to admit that there was a NOTICEABLE difference between the violence in the hood PRIOR to the mid-90s and AFTER the mid-90s right up to the year 2020. That 1,2 punch combo did exactly what white folks intended since the days of POTUS Nixon. Yes....however many BLACK FOLKS intended for that to happen too because I remember when a lot of Black leaders and politicians were ASKING Clinton and the government to do something about the dope and violence plaguing the communities. Even some of the preachers were getting up in the pulpit and having mass rallies demanding that the government do something about it. Infact, one of the points Clinton promised if elected president was to add 100,000 more police on the streets to stop the crime and killing....and a lot of Black folks voted for him FOR THAT. At that time crime and fighting crime wasn't necessarily SEEN as code words for "incarcerating Black folks". Black folks who were stressing that someone be "tough on crime" truly meant it. I remember some Black folks were even calling for the National Guard to patrol some areas. Crystal meth has never been criminalized as harshly as marijuana and cocaine. Fentanyl and opioid addiction are supposedly a huge problem for white folks but there's no harsh punishments being handed down on them for trafficking in it. Facts. But is there as much VIOLENCE associated with crystal meth and fentanyl as there was and still is with crack and cocaine? Most White folks I've seen who do that shit just walk around in some dirty shitty pants sitting on the sidewalk or at a park staring or chewing and babbling. ...or begging for money and calling you "brother" every other word, lol. Don't get me wrong....there IS a level of violence involved. However when you go to these trailer parks dominated by White folks or even on that famous street in Philadelphia...Kensington Ave..lol...you see THOUSANDS if not MILLIONS of White folks on heroine and meth, but are they rolling around with rags on their head doing drive-by's and running eachother off corners with AK's??? Most of them shoot up, ball up into a corner, and start crying about some shit that happened to them in the past. But when cousin Deonte takes a hit of that Crack does HE ball up in a corner and start crying....lol??? No....YOUR ass better stay away from him before he has YOU in a corner crying....lol. Some of that mess going on in the hood ain't got a damn thing to do with drugs but just youth being crazy. If there were NO drugs involved, some of them would be fighting and killing eachother....just because. Which is why I said we need to police OURSELVES. White folks have always been the biggest drug dealers in the world through the pharmaceutical industry and illegal drugs too. Facts. And I personally don't have a problem with people dealing drugs to those who want them as long as the activity and the behavior of the drugs being used are CONFINED to the sellers and users. I take issue when: 1. You start pushing the shit on children who don't even know what it is. 2. You start shooting up the neighborhood and robbing people because you're in a fight with a rival crew OR you need money to feed your habit. That's when I say....get the police involved or take care of it ourselves. But again, SOMETHING had to be done and something HAS to be done. Ain't nobody trying to live in a fucking jungle where you're hold up in your house afraid to look out the window. I'm not going to blame ALL of that on White racists. There's no shortage of crime and violence in death on the hands of white folks. Yet, they aren't being punished as harshly. Keep it real bro.... White folks wouldn't allow a FRACTION of the shit we allow go on in THEIR communities before they take action. Yes they kill eachother. They kill....much more than our people...but when it gets to levels that's happening in many AfroAmerican communities and higher then its called WARFARE. If White folks start killing like that, they usually declare war, put on uniforms, and go all out like you see in Russia and Ukraine. But when it comes to regular residential society...I don't know of any White community that would allow teenagers with gats to just "take over" the block. White men would get together and burn every damn dope house in the neighborhood and drag the White teenagers engaging in it outside and do a public lynching before they allowed things to get that bad in their communities. Some of these niccaz are just shooting and killing with no clear objective besides personal beefs. It needs to be ENDED....not made excuses for or pointing to others doing it as if that somehow justifies it. The main trick of the enemy i.e. white folks is getting Black folks to hate and destroy themselves by any means necessary. You're correct. But how is that trick or demonic plan countered? I say you must have a COUNTER PLAN to raising up an army of strong and intelligent Black men who will police our community ourselves and keep our society on the right course. Letting shit go to hell in a handbasket and then saying *cough* *cough* "Well.....ALL of it is the fault of White folks anyway. You know THEY brought the shit in to the hood in the first place so....so fuck it. Nothing we can do about it" ....ain't a viable "plan" in my opinion, lol.

Seeing "Furious Styles" with grey hair is starting to make me feel my age a little...lol.