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You pay for food. You pay for a place to stay. You pay for service on your vehicle. You pay for health care. You pay for a good time at the movies. You pay for drugs and alcohol so you can feel good. But all of a sudden, when it comes to paying for sex.....people feel some sort of way. It comes from being brainwashed by Caucasians and their anti-sexual religious dogma. Europeans, Aryans, Arabs, etc....have called sex nasty, evil, a "necessary evil", and have heavily regulated it through their religious indoctrinations and the people of color who grew up under their influence also have these same dysfunctional beliefs. Before the coming of the Caucasians, most Black societies not only had legalized prostitution but had big COMMUNITY ORGIES where all the adults in the community would come out and have sex with eachother, often times in public and in the holy temples. WE didn't think of sex as "sinful" until White folks came along and TOLD you it was. It's been said that Kufu (Cheops) one of the Kings of Kemet actually prostituted his daughter out to raise money to help fund the building of one of the Great Pyramids. This thing most men have against prostitution doesn't come from a HIGH MORAL perspective, but actually comes from PRIDE. Most men don't want to think of themselves as being so "lame" or "wack" that they have to pay for sex. They like to think of themselves as so "boss" or "playa" that women THROW themselves at them and offer them sex at no price. In my observations, that's less than 5% of the men out there. Most men....who ARE having sex, because some aren't...lol.... are PAYING the women they're having sex with either directly or undirectly.

ProfD Well, Black folks USED TO get out in the streets and riot. That's when as a community we had more pride, masculinity, and refused to tolerate certain things. Since the 90s, the AfroAmerican community has become more confused and "soft" in a way so many of those who were down to hit the streets have either gotten older, died off, or locked up. It's a shame that so many Black youth have gotten so docile that the White power structure can't even trust them to riot anymore and has to resort to sending in White infiltrators to stir things up...lol. Look at what happened in Atlanta a few days ago. A bunch of White kids running around starting fires and throwing rocks.

Cynique 😏 And if you DID agree with anything I've said.....I wouldn't expect for you to admit it.

We can save up some money and BUY a small town, or just move there in mass taking up employment, residence, and eventually positions in government like City Hall and School board and in a few years we will HAVE the town. Then expand upon it. So which region do you think would be the best place to do this....in the South or maybe out West?

richardmurray I have been unfortunate enough to see + experience alot of law enforcement abuse. That's sad to hear that YOU have been a victim of a lot of law enforcement abuse! You seem like such an intelligent and well composed brutha, online atleast! May I ask what were the circumstances? If you'd rather not share it...I'll understand. The goal is for Black cops in mostly white law enforcement organizations to exists, for Black presidents in a mostly white country , Black Mayors in a mostly white city to exists, it isn't to deny, black cops in most black law enforcement organizations, or black mayors in black towns or black sheriffs in black counties. But the idea is for an individual allowance to exist in the Black community in the USA that will curtail Black communal strength, will curtail Black communal resilience, will curtail Black communal fiscal profit, but the goal is to get the majority of the Black community to be part of an aracial identity, an individual identity, that I argue has been reached. Seems like I kinda understand what you're saying here, but can you expound upon it a little more? Are you saying that the plan is to individualize Black Americans to the extent that the can no longer relate to what happened to our brother in Memphis?

🙄 ((shakes head)) If I were that slow, I wouldn't even TELL nobody....lol.

When you said the "other" Black people, I thought the thread was going to be about Africans or Caribbeans...lol. You make a good point Harry, why aren't these cops this abusive towards the gangsters, thugs, and dope dealers as they were towards THIS dude?

In a racist society such as Western civilization......your race IS your class. Rodney campbell ? Do you have an example of humane slavery that is ok?

What do yall think of this White man's theory of Reality: I'm sure Rodney, Del, and Cynique will find his observations interesting....lol

They wanted riots to occur. The media was all but begging people to hit the streets and raise hell after the video is shown. They wanted Black police officers to be the "face" of police brutality and a good old fashioned uprising would be the perfect traumatic event needed to burn that image into the psyche of society and take the heat off of racist White cops committing most of the murders and brutality. It would also be a good cover to began purging Black cops off of police departments around the nation. After all....who would come to their rescue if THEY are seen as the enemy as well? Outside of a mob in New York who allegedly attacked a police car, nothing major happened.

Fingerprints, DNA, 911 calls, security camera images, etc.....ARE objective as you say. But they aren't necessarily proof in and of themselves but evidence. A lawyer can present all of these and the defendant STILL be found not guilty! They only become proof when they are BELIEVED enough to cause one to believe in person is guilty. You say the evidence and proof are legal terms but that's only PART of the picture. As has been mentioned before, both evidence and proof have MULTIPLE DEFINITIONS and just because ONE of their definitions is of a legal nature, doesn't mean all of them are. Both evidence and proof are frequently used words OUTSIDE of a legal context and have different qualifiers for both.

It's not a matter of ME being cool with it. It's a matter of my Mother or sister having a CHOICE as to doing what they want to do with THEIR body. .......as adults, long as THEY are cool with it and aren't being forced to against their will or PREVENTED from it against their will regardless of my approval of it. I put prostitution in the same category with abortion, it should be a PERSONAL decision without the state forcing archaic and religious dogma on others.

I personally don't see any problem with people buying pleasure/sex. As long as it's not forced. I think both prostitutes AND pimps get an undeserved bad name and reputation in this society. Abuse is wrong, but sex in and of itself isn't.

Interesting back and forth between Delano and Cynique. I was actually rooting for Delano as his position was closest to mine on what was "evidence" and what constituted "proof"....then he essentially capitulated and decided to shake hands with her. Nothing but a cream puff....lol. Like Troy said, words have multiple meanings. Many definitions for the same word. The disagreements among us seem to largely be over WHICH definitions we choose to put weight on. As I've said multiple times and Delano earlier concurred....PROOF is subjective and highly dependent on the acceptance of the person you're trying to convince. It doesn't matter how much "evidence" you present....if the Jury doesn't accept it....then it's not PROOF (not to them atleast).

White people as a group are never going to VOLUNTARILY give up their weapons in this society no matter what laws are passed because they will always fear that a "race war" will jump off and they will be left vulnerable. I personally prefer an gun-free society, but as long as racist and criminals are running around with guns then I think it's the responsibility of most intelligent and righteous Black people to be able to protect themselves and their families by any means necessary. I've said it many times before and I will continue to say it...... It's getting to the point that righteous and intelligent Black folks WILL have to form their our own societies and communities inside this nation and fortify them from the growing evil and violence from the outside. Our own compounds.

What they did to that poor young man was absolutely HORRIFIC. Having said that.... I find it interesting how in THIS case: 1. The 5 Black cops who were involved were fired so quickly 2. The authorities have no problem releasing the video so quickly when it usually takes MONTHS before they release a video of White police abusing people. 3. How the media kept playing up the expectation for violence across the nation last night after showing this video. As if they WANTED something to jump off. The double standards in this nation are so amazingly blatant.

Are you sure you weren't communicating with a demon?

Rodney campbell Lol....no, it's not just talk. We actually need to do BOTH. We eventually need our own independent society, but I don't believe most AfroAmericans are ready for self governing right now. Many are....but most aren't. So perhaps we should take advantage of the opportunity to practice it in increments by holding positions of power and managing small independent communities within the nation.

Cynique After all of these years I can't believe that I never paid any attention to the symbols at the top of this site; the bell and the envelope notifying me that someone is trying to make contact with me. Probably because no one has been TRYING to "make contact" with your silly ass......🤣 ProfD if/when I decide to run up there for Harold's fried chicken Now Harold's fried chicken is the shit! I used to go to the one on South Stoney Island Ave.

Rodney campbell I agree. To a larger extent it is the PARENTS' responsibility to see to it that their children grow up properly educated and well rounded. Ideally we'd have a proper public educational system in society to assist with this, but even if we don't....it's still our responsibility to properly raise our children to be productive and successful adults. That's the main job of a parent. One of the problems with this society is that most of the parents themselves are ignorant, uneducated, and highly dysfunctional. Infact, you have 2 or 3 generations of dysfunction going back to the 60s!

ProfD I'd be curious to see how Umar handles himself in a cell or on the block or in the yard. I'm not sure if they would be a fair assessment because a lot of the dudes who are locked up are essentially ANIMALS. Regardless of their size they are very violent, anti-social, psychotic, and suffer from many other psychological problems. Not all obviously. Not even most...but many. Certainly a higher percentage than you'll find in most communities on the outside. We can't compare a RELATIVELY normal man such as Dr. Johnson to some of those beasts, nor should we expect for him to be able to handle himself like one. The brotha has a gift for running his mouth. Women impressed by an articulate Black man run the gamut from highly educated to hood boogers and everything in the middle. Facts....lol The lonely hearts club women just a want a piece of man...a dude with a pulse. Those types of women will actually support a broke azz n8gglet. And on top of that..... There is a LARGE percentage of those type of women in our community. So it's not hard to see how even a Beta or Gamma male could pull off a polygamous relationship quite successfully. Troy Is what he says? I’d be unable to determine the exact number? Yeah, that's what he's said multiple times. I haven't seen them but it's his claim. I’ve never heard Umar speak in person, so I’ll take you at your word that the sisters flock to him. What do you think the quality of the ladies running up on Umar is like? Are they highly educated? Next time he's speaking in your area.....he goes down to Florida atleast once a year...go check him out, lol. Both men and women are running up to him to ask him questions after the lecture, and women are running up to him giving him their numbers, trying to get hugs, trying to get pictures taken, etc. Typical groupie shit. Not sure about the quality of the women but if they are in a Black Consciousness event they can't be TOO stupid. Most thug-girls and dope addicts and street women don't attend those type of events....lol. Many of the women who INVITE Dr. Umar to their venues to speak are certainly highly educated.

The problem with the Hindu Vedas is...they can't be trusted because they allegedly originated with the Aryan invaders of India. The Aryans were the racist Caucasians who were responsible for raping and destroying the mighty Indus Valley civilization. I've heard others who argues that the Vedas existed before the Aryans arrived. But they were in the minority.

Stefan I just gave you the fact. It's up to you to accept them or not. The word "slavery" is derived from the term for the Slavic people of Eastern Europe. Plain and simple. Take it or leave it.....but it would be WISE to put education over ego.

"Uh huh......GOTCHA!"

Even jurists have differing opinions from eachother of what constitutes "proof" versus what is mere "evidence" but doesn't cross the threshold.