Pioneer1

Stefan I think you got me mixed up with someone else. I don't believe Noah and his sons even EXISTED....let alone had birthdates!

Perhaps.... But YOU aren't one of them. Infact, you keep an eye out for my posts like a hungry hawk. "Now WHERE is that Pioneer1 at???? Why haven't I seen any posts of his lately? Is he at work? Over a woman's house? I wonder is he somewhere thinking about me like I be thinking about him? Where o' where could he be???? Just THINKING about him got my feathers all ruffled up."

Stefan Why the ad hominen personal attacks? If you disagree with an opinion of hers, oppose it with facts and careful wording I hear you, but what if it's THE PERSON HERSELF you disagree with and not their words??? Suppose you agree with most of what a person says and found much of of their ideas wonderful, but you think THEY are dirty, dank, scandalous, piece of 😚 ...well, you know "what"...lol. What do you do then? I was not aware of the travails of Pioneer and Cynique. Well, let me give you a brief outline of our history. After some dude who was giving her a ride to the store stopped coming over (and no telling what happened with THAT situation) Cynique started getting a little lonely so much of her joy comes from interacting with me. She loves to fight and engage with me, it turns her on. @Chevdove BTW, I love your new signature. Kanye West is not my generation and I know he is contraversial, but he is talented and good with the turns of phrases I think Kanye is mentally disturbed and is sadly unravelling before the public's eye. However like many mad people, strokes of GENIUS will emit from his distrubed brain like rays of sunlight through storm clouds. Troy Cynique does block Pioneer, and she loathes him. For someone who has me "blocked", she sure does find a way to find my comments...lol. I keep trying to tell yall, the woman is obsessed.

Is if foolish for us who are not Chinese to talk about China and it's economic or military ambitions? Is it foolish for non Jews to talk about the Bible? How far should freedom of speech and freedom of thought be extended before the barrier is erected?

Moving along in the conversation..................... ProfD Reparations to ADOS would provide AfroAmericans with the resources to build better communities with everything to include housing, schools, medical facilities, banks, grocery stores and other businesses. If those Reparations come with EDUCATION and classes on economics, farming, how to build and maintain educational institutions and medical facilities. Just giving some of these silly ass niggas a bunch of money would only WORSEN an already bad problem. Neely Fuller Jr. talks of Black folks who just go Reparations driving down the street in limousines with the windows down smoking dope and shooting at eachother. Kenneth Blacks own more businesses today than ever check out the stats. We are better educated than ever. 1. We may own more ONLINE businesses like those little internet schemes and scams or playing around designing software; but when I say businesses I'm talking about FOUR WALLED establishments. Grocery stores. Hotels Hospitals Auto Repare shops Etc... How many of THEM do we own today compared to in the past when we had little choice but to do them ourselves? Also, when you say we are better educated than ever. You're right in terms of an ACADEMIC education. The drop out rate is lower and more Black people have graduated from college today than 60 or 80 years ago...but what has their education gotten them besides a lot more debt? Back 80 years ago the AVERAGE Black man with only a high school diploma by the time he was 30 owned his own house, had a wife and children he supported, ect...How many COLLEGE EDUCATED Black men can say that today? Black people were hurt by the change from an industrial to service economy that ruined urban areas we mainly lived in FACTS I'm from Detroit so I saw it first hand. Those industrial factory jobs were union and paid WAY MORE in wages and benefits than these little Starbucks and Target jobs so many are forced to take today. he elite capitalist class is mainly straight white male and cisgendered. But there are elite class members who don't belong in this configuration. Some are black men and women. That's capitalism. It can be good or awful, so we have to be engaged in politics and activist struggle. Cultural pride, creativity, community building, being a good individual, or strong families aren't a substitute for engagement to shape the politics and counter the powers that be. So much of Black Nationalism and Afrocentrism are escapist not militant or revolutionary modes of struggle for black liberation. I don't think the problem is Capitalism any more than it's Communism. I think the problem is WHITE MEN period. It doesn't matter WHAT economic system we choose; if White men are at the top running it then chances are it won't work for our people. Capitalism worked just fine for Black people after Reconstruction when WE had OUR OWN businesses and ran them for profit while employing other Black folks.

Stephan Since I am not a member of either group, I'll allow those who are to determine the definitions. I don't like it one bit when arrogant non-Black jerks try to tell me about me about our History. While it's polite and considerate to simply allow people to label themselves, make-up their own idenity, and give their own version of history....this is often a big mistake. Identity shouldn't revolve around mis-information, historical inaccuracy, and wishful thinking. It should revolve around FACTS...TRUTH. Like many AfroAmericans, many if not most Latinos are IGNORANT of race, racial classification, and much of their own history so simply allowing them to classify themselves as they please will only prolong the ignorance, division, low self-esteem, and other problems that go along with an entire people being indoctrinated and brainwashed. People of all races need to KNOW the truth and ACCEPT it. It's the same with some politicians who think people are not applying for work because they received Stimulus Checks. That money went quickly to pay back rent, unpaid bills, to replace worn clothing and footwear and of course, for food. How long did Republican lawmakers believe funds from those Stimulus Checks would last? For two years? This is what happens when you never miss a meal or worry about making a rent or mortgage payment. Most of the rich have no idea what it's like to be poor or on a budget. I think the only reasons Trump and the other Republicans went along with giving the American people so much stimulus money with little strings attached (initially atleast) was because they thought MOST PEOPLE were gonna get sick and die from Covid. They were talking about atleast 10% of the population was gonna die from Covid and even higher numbers! They thought it was the end or close to the end so they started passing out money like candy.

Maybe it will be useless to repeat it but...marijuana is NOT LEGAL. Period. The Federal Government says that it is ILLEGAL with no exceptions, including medical.

They did the SAME THING in Iraq. You had a strong man (yes a dictator but.....) who kept law, order, and relative peace in the nation and when they got rid of him the nation descended into chaos and lawlessness. That's the modus operandi of these Western powers through out history. Causing destabilization in order to secure power.

That's the problem brother, our people HAVEN'T made more progress since the 60s....it's gotten MUCH WORSE. Before the 60s there was less crime, less broken families, less of our people incarcerated (including percentage wise) and more of us own our own businesses, banks, hotels, ect..... Wnen was the last time you even SAW a Black hotel let alone stayed in one? The only people "integration" helped was White people. Living around us more helped them by teaching them how to cook better, make better music, and dress better by giving them a sense of style. White men were NERDY AS HELL before learning how to act and dress by watching Black men. They benefit by living around us because we have CREATIVITY and they try to steal it and emulate it. That doesn't help US though. Integration made our people LAZY to the point that you no longer have Black banks, Black supermarkets, or hotels....most Black neighborhood do good to have a few Black barbershops and restaurants. Like I said we CAN live together as a nation....as long as Black people keep themselves separate in our own communities and demand that the Federal resources go to those communities instead of trying to "integrate" everything into a White controlled general society. SEPARATION...not SEGREGATION. Under Segregation THEY kept us apart and controlled things, but under SEPARATION we have the power over our own separate communities. We need OUR OWN schools controlled by us with OUR OWN curriculum to teach our children how to operate OUR communities inside America. That's the ONLY way it will work with us living with them. You try it that "melting pot" crap and you're gonna have THEM in charge with a lot of Black folks going to jail, unemployed, getting fired from their jobs for wearing dreads, getting cancer and diabetes, and many other problems that come from TRYING to get along with and live with and imitate them and their poisonous civilization. Western civilization works for WHITE FOLKS and their nature, but their civilization and ways are POISONOUS and DIAMETRICALLY OPPOSED to our very nature as a people and we need to be able to develop and control our own communities and culture to not only thrive but just survive!

Kenneth It's true that a lot of LGBT are Black....I contend that the REASON you have so many Black LGBT today is because of our proximity and closeness to White people and their strong influence on our community. Especially since so-called Integration. If we weren't so close to them with them constantly influencing our culture so much and introducing different perverse ways and lifestyles to our people, there wouldn't be NEARLY as many LGBT and sexually confused people in our community. You'd have some, but not NEARLY as many. We need to SEPARATE from White people....not get closer to them or unite with them. That will help us much more than trying to get along with them....which most of us can't anyway no matter how hard some of us try. The problem with getting along with White people isn't with us....it's with them. Most Black people (including myself) WANT to get along with White people and try very hard to do so even when it goes against our very nature to do so, but so many White people DO NOT want to live with or get along with or even work with Black people even when they're forced to.....it just doesn't happen. I want a nation that works for us all too. I think America can be that nation and I think all races CAN get along....as long as we have the freedom to express ourselves and our culture without the interference of others. When Black people are ALLOWED to be ourselves without White people trying to dictate and control us, we EXCELL. Most White people instinctively know this, which is why they love to constantly interfere in our development as a people. Forget about trying to unite with White people and even other races for that matter and let them do them. Focus more on uniting BLACK PEOPLE with eachother under a more righteous and progressive agenda by strengthening the families, cutting the crime, and innovating technology and medicines to heal our people from the problems they've encountered living among a poisionous White civilization. Black people are TOO UN-ALIKE White people to call ourselves trying to live under their civilization. The very FOODS that work for them often times don't work for us and gives our people various problems. Let's SEPARATE from them and build OUR OWN.

Delano Si... Pero gracias todovia!

THANK YOU!!!

Kenneth Ok, thank you for answering my question and clarifying.......... Well, I can say that I DON'T WANT TO unite with most Wht people or most of those in the LGBT community. Infact, working class White men are THEE most racist demographic in this society. I can get along with them as long as they stay in their community and away from me and mine, but as far as uniting with them and working with them....I have little desire to do so. Which is why I prefer a SALAD BOWL type of society where we each can keep out separate communities and sub-cultures instead of a melting pot that blends us.

ProfD I'm disappointed to a certain extent....but I understand. We should have KNOWN this was gonna happen once they took out of the leadership.

Well, I was walking down the street....noticed it was out of control and didn't have a conductor...so I hopped aboard and took the steering to save lives, lol.

ProfD Lol...you jokester you. Stop playing man. Stefan And at THIS point in Black History, I would say dis-unity is a GOOD THING! When I look at the behavior and thinking pattern of many of the AfroAmericans I see not only in the media but out on the street in real life...I'm GLAD I'm not joined with those clowns. There is no way we could unite and progress as a people with the mindset so many of them have today. The rampant drug use alone and the instability it produces is a good reason we can't and shouldn't unite with all of our people today. I hope you have a bottle of Pepto Bismol or Maalox sitting by you when you read them....to deal with the upset stomach. 🤢

People like Cynique is keeping the nation from moving forward. Kenneth I have a couple points and questions about your topic. 1. When you ask what's keeping "us" from moving forward, who is the "us" you are referring too specifically? 2. Whether you're talking about the nation in general or the Black American community in specific....you should know that many are ALREADY going forward and will continue to go forward as individuals. They aren't relying on or waiting on the group.

Buzzzzzzz.......... SPLAT

ProfD I give actors like Denzel more of a pass for playing "bad guy" roles because it's CLEARLY understood that he's acting. In other words, he doesn't come on the screen and says "this is an account of my life and what I saw and did growing up" before the movie starts. I don't like it when TOO MANY Black people play the "bad guy" roles but I see it as a bit different. When it comes to Hiphop though...... These dudes are pretty much making it clear that this is what they've either done or seen growing up in thier community and they make it seem much more like real life. Ofcourse they too use poetic license. Ice Cube didn't grow up in the hood and was never a gangster.....he was just good at rapping about it. But many if not most Gangsta and Trap rap artists have and do.

People are already busy enough ....now they gotta STOP and take time to.....🤔-hmmm.... figure out what some idiot or schizophrenic "reeeeaaally" means when he/she babbles on the keyboard. 🤪 -Hey, snow turns green and catches fire as soon as it makes contact with the sidewalk! But some of yall wouldn't understand that because you don't know how to think abstractly...see what I'm saying?? Go on somewhere with that mess.

Does anyone else hear something buzzing around here??? .....where's my swatter at???

Cynique If responding to what Delano ACTUALLY WROTE (as opposed to trying to decipher some esoteric meaning behind his words or using a secret decoder ring to figure out what the hell he "really" means ) is "jumping to conclusions" then it is what it is. When you know how to READ....you tend to do things like that, lol.

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🤚 ....ain't got time to go back and forth with emotional little girls with nothing better to do than throw emotional tantrums on a Sunday afternoon.

ProfD One of my criticisms of Obama was that despite his intelligence and articulation he didn't seem to know how to talk to the average person Black or White. He's so smart and academic and like most highly educated people, he makes the mistake of assuming everyone can or should understand the points he's trying to make. He underestimates how STUPID the average American is....lol. But the Republicans DON'T. They KNOW a large (and growing) percentage of Americans are STUPID and gullible and all they have to do is tell a lie bold enough for long enough and they'll believe it. They know how to talk plainly and reach the masses of their TARGET audience.....poor White folks. Say what you want about Trump but when he gives a speech you know EXACTLY what he's saying and what he means when he says it, even if it's a straight up lie. There is little CONFUSION over what Trump is saying and means, even if you don't believe it.