Pioneer1

I'm not a religious person in the traditional sense however I will say that as I've gotten older and more observant of our people, most of the problems African people worldwide face have less to do with their various religious affiliations and more to do with their level and orientation of thinking. The various religions introduced to us from outside of our communities have merely EXACERBATED the problems of division and confusion that already existed as a result of the low intelligence and mental imbalance that had already existed among so many African peoples. And just like a powerful immune system would resist any germ or disease attempting to invade the body, it follows that a powerful intelligent correctly balanced mind would resist any attempts by the enemy to harm the community by introducing twisted religious ideology, drugs, sexual confusion, ect...

Is that your way of calling my words "food" for thought?

At it's basic level, to RE-FORM means to RE-STRUCTURE; and there are 2 essential things people should know before attempting to RE-form any institution: 1. Understanding WHO and WHAT established the institution in the first place; because this helps you to understand it's purpose for existing. 2. Knowing EXACTLY what you want to RE-FORM that institution into; because in some cases an institution shouldn't be RE-formed at all but simply ELIMINATED. For example...... Slavery (forced labor) was actually RE-FORMED, when it should have actually been eliminated all together.

Cynique You weren't around back in the late 1950s and early 60s when both TV and black militancy were in their nascent stages. I was Well goooooooooooooooooooooooooooood for YOU ! Just like if there is a conspiracy to feminize black men, why haven't you become feminized? Because nature won't allow it. Somebody's gotta be man enough to keep YOUR ass in check, lol.

Troy Lol, I've admitted my mistakes before. Infact, I actually MAY have been correct but I don't see how it would profit me to argue with Chev on this one issue when we agree on so many others. Mr. Fuller provides more detail on this sexual confusion agenda:

Well...... They say genius is the ability to make the complex look simple.

Cynique And it doesn't seem to occur to you that the same media you excoriate, is who made Malcolm X and Farrakhan and Elijah Muhammad famous. Malcolm, Farrakhan, and Elijah were all famous...among those they WANTED to be famous among....long before the media made them so. The media just capitalized off of what was already popular. Infact, in many cases the media tried to do the opposite and actually made them famous by their initial attempts to demonize them. Troy Of course these are generalizations. Most African Americans are are mixture of people from all over the world. Hence some are lactose intolerant and others are not. Going by that logic..... We all know that there are some Caucasians who tan well and don't get sunburned so they don't need sun screen. Imagine if the focus was entirely on THEM rather than the majority of Caucasians who actually DO need sunscreen for their protection? The incidents of skin cancer would skyrocket. Some generalizations are true and necessary. Yes some AfroAmericans aren't lactose intolerant but MOST ARE and this needs to be considered when advising AfroAmericans on a proper diet.

Chev Yes, I agree that many of them are confused, and that is the sad part, because no sound Black Voice is helping them to not be confused, and this is how they are being exploited. That's correct, and another problem is because AfroAmericans lack an actual CULTURE of our own it's easier for those from the outside to push confusing and non-productive values on to the community. No matter how hard they try they wouldn't be able to go to a place like Iran and "trick" them into accepting sexual confusion because they have an established culture that's solidly against it. LOL! No Wait a minute! LOL. Maybe they re-defined this term as they have done in other cases but, this word 'MENTOR' goes back to ancient KEMET, BLACKS! The pharaoh named MENTUHOTEP [ie. MONTU] is one name that shows this origin. It stems from IMHOTEP, and the pharaohs developed a father-son apprenticeship, whereby the heir chosen to become pharaoh would MENTOR the pharaoh as the kings saw themselves as MENTORS to the great high priest IMHOTEP. I didn't know that. Thank you for the correction and the knowledge!

Troy You're right, I noticed immediately that Caucasians in the South tend to be more violent than those in the North and definately more violent than those on the WestCoast. When I lived down there I would routinely see drunk Caucasian men....even blood relatives....fight eachother. I haven't spent much time in Florida but I've heard there were a lot of fine Carribean sistaz down there from places like Barbados, Trinidad, Dominican Republic, Haiti, and other places. Have you noticed this?

I've seen a few meteors but one of the most amazing things I've seen in the sky was just a few months ago when I looked up and saw an actual COMET! It looked like a huge bright orange/yellow ball with a sparkling tail and seemed to have come out of "nowhwere"....went across the sky...and went back into "nowhere". It probably just briefly entered the Earth's atmosphere enough to flash itself and then went back out.

I was told by someone on another site that often times the more direct and less detailed my posts are the more sense I make. I've also been told by some people in real life that I "explain" too much or give too much unnecessary detail when instructing people and it often loses them. I'm not sure if this is true but I've decided to experiment by TRYING to keep my statments at 5 sentences or less for each response. Obviously sometimes I'll have to post more if someone askes me a lot of questions, but I'm going to experiment with being brief and more direct and after a few weeks I'll examine the results of this experiment, lol.

Allow me to analyze your recurring dreams factories and train stations................ Factories are places where things are MADE. If you are lost in a factory it means that you are confused and you need to MAKE up your mind. The train station symbolizes you TRAINING or focusing your thoughts once your mind is made up. You are confused and you need to MAKE up your mind to stop arguing with Pioneer1 and challenging me so much and TRAIN your mind on my words of wisdom. There you have it.

I like how the artists make the militants look "cute" with the big eyes and narrow little chins. It's a smart move because it take some of the edge off of Black militancy. No doubt this and probably even the Huey character from The Boondocks was inspired by the Michael Evans character from Good Times. His youth and small size almost made his exaggerated Black militancy seem comical rather than threatening. But imagine if JAMES EVANS had been saying the exact same things little Michael was saying! They would have taken that show off the air before the end of the first season, lol. Chev This Black Live Matter Movement seems to go along with the homosexual laws of today and this video outcome of the White system infiltrating this issue very well. Not only are they going along with the laws, they are helping to PUSH some of the laws....lol. Atleast 2 of the founding members of BLM are Lesbian. I've met Alicia on a number of occasions in various community organizing events and although the sister CALLS herself a lesbian I've observed enough of her to know she likes herself some "bruthaz" too....lol. I think many of the members are CONFUSED about what they want and what they believe, just like Neely Fuller has been saying. This is why I know Neely is right in many of his observations. Because I've had some of the SAME observations about how confused many AfroAmericans are. Especially many of the youth. 　 　 Troy I would entertain this theory @Pioneer1 is if did not effect white people too. In some respects white people are affected even more harshly. Now I know Fullers says these white folks are collateral damage, sacrificed to exact greater damage on Black people. It's not just that they are sacrifices, it's also that fact that this has always been COMMON in Caucasian culture so it's not really affecting them at all. If you go back thousands of years homosexuality, bisexuality, and sex with youth have all been apart of Caucasian societies even going back to the ancient Romans and Greeks. Hell...the word "MENtor" comes from older MEN taking on boys as sex partners in exchange for their "mentorship". Nothing in White society is being changed. What has always been occuring among them is now just being made more overt and open in an attempt to justify and normalize it and encourage OTHERS to join them in doing so. Now if you look at reproduction rates of white folks and compare it to Black folks globally the plan does not seem to be going very well. Here in the US white people will be out numbered in our life time. I'll be honest with you, I'm not too sure about all of these statistics claiming that White reproduction rates are declining. I've been all over this nation and it seems that not only are White women getting pregnant but they are having MULTIPLE babies at a time! They are now making baby strollers that can hold 3 and 4 babies in them! You can't walk into a Starbucks or a shopping mall without seeing groups of young White women with babies wrapped up close to their chests as they stand around sipping lattes and giggling. And with the gentrification going on in most urban areas across the nation, exactly WHERE can one go to find this "White decline"?

Del, would YOU kiss a so-called "woman" who had jaws that square and a nose bridge that strong and prominent?

　 Troy Whew! Lol..... Naaaaah bruh, that ain't happening over THIS way. I'd get with a masculine WOMAN and wrestle some love out of her before messing around with the most feminine of men, lol. Dark skinned people would suffer from Vitamin D deficiency in northern climates, while light skinned people would be able to better able to make due with limited sunlight because of a lack of melanin. This is an adaptation which could be considered an "upgrade" in northern environments. I was actually thinking this very thing and have heard it for years. They put Vitamin D in the milk but most AfroAmericans are also lactose intolerant after 25 or so years of age. 　 Cynique Why would anybody place any credibility in Elijah Muhammad's teachings? He has no credentials. Anybody can make up stories to support their beliefs. Well, that's a question for the hundreds of thousands of people who followed and STILL continue to follow and put faith in his teachings. Infact, you can find hundreds of them right there in Illinois. Why don't you go up to one of them or several of them and ASK them why would they place any credibility in such a man. I dare you.....lol. 　 　 So do African Americans suffered from winter any worse than European Americans people do? You go to any construction or road repair site even in the Winter time and you're routinely see White men working with no hats or gloves or heavy clothing but the frigid air seems not to bother them as much and in most cases not at all. I even routinely see White people of all ages in SHORTS with a foot of snow on the ground and the wind howling. How many Black or Latinx people have you seen doing that on a regular basis?

It may seem a bit hyperbolic not withstanding the "boondocks" type animation but I believe what Mr Fuller said is basically true and what I've been witnessing over the past 20 years alone seems to verify much of what he's saying. How many intact Black families do you actually see together in public today? I think what so many people....perhaps even yourself.....have such a hard time believing is that there is a PLOT or PLAN to keep Black men and women away from eachother and confuse them sexually. So many people just ASSUME the reasons for the confusion and dysfunction are "this" or "that" or "the other".......anything BUT a plot or plan by White Supremists. But the fact that the relationship between many if not most AfroAmerican males and females are clearly dysfunctional and and non-existent in many cases is undeniable and obvious.

Lol...... Del, would YOU kiss a so-called "woman" who had jaws that square and a nose bridge that strong and prominent?

Damn....lol. Yes.

You're not going to find me coming to R. Kelly's defense any more than I came to the defense of Bill Cosby. In my opinion grown men having sex with and pissing on 14 year old girls OR drugging grown women up to make them helpless for you to have sex with is worthy of an ass kicking and jail time. My issue is with the injustice of the SO-CALLED "Justice System". A system that punishes AfroAmerican men who do these things but too often IGNORE White men who do the same AND other things that are much much worse even when there is overwhelming evidence of their guilt. It's kind of like Jesse Jackson's beef with the unjust cocaine sentencing that went on in the 80s and 90s were BOTH Black men and White men were guilty of selling drugs and committing other offense but they went after Black men much more strongly both prosecuting them and sentencing them. We need to be fair and consistent in who we decide to go after. Don't just pick on Black men because you know much of society doesn't like them and since they aren't well represented in much of the criminal justice system or media.....they become an easy target to point the finger at or go after. A lot of White women are raped by their own fathers and brothers but won't DARE go on television and say anything or even go to the local police because their fathers and brothers are ON the police department or are judges or lawyers or in the media and they know that not only will their story not get out but THEY may even be punished. But if a Black man just LOOK at you cross eyed......if you decided to implicate him who's going to come to HIS rescue or side with him over you? And this is especially important with the women because women are the strongest influencers of the men in this society and they can't be confused or wishy-washy about who they support and what they think is good or bad. If you as a woman like "bad boys" and criminals and want to be played and played around with then ADMIT THAT and agree not to later on condemn these type of men and get them imprisoned. Just say I USED TO like men like that when I was younger but now I don't. Don't sit up crying and claiming you were "taken advantage of" and didn't know what you were doing when you went over to his hotel room at 2 am, got naked, and hopped in bed with him.....lol. You know what some men are about. As long as they aren't FORCING you or any other woman to engage them then this is America where people should be free to make their own sexual choices. If they aren't too young, mentally disabled, or physically disabled......then LET IT BE.

The original Statue of Liberty is a good example of the presence of Black women being whitewashed out of history. The original Statue of Liberty that France offered was that of a Black woman holding up her arms with a light to show others the way to America where they could also find freedom. But America rejected this statue for the more androgynous one we currently have that you can't even tell is a man or woman, lol.

Elijah Muhammad taught that one of the reasons Caucasians were able to come among Africans, Native Americans, and other people of color and take advantage of them was because they were "unalike". They looked and acted so much differently. He said that with their white skin, blonde hair, and blue/green eyes they looked so much different than the darker population and thus they were "attractive" and people wanted to get to know them and about them better. Just like most heterosexual women find very masculine men attractive and most heterosexual men find very feminine women attractive....unlike attracts (on a physical level).

Chev Lol, if the "common person" wasn't supposed to do the stoning then WHO were these laws of the Old Testament directed to? Well..... Atleast you're not accusing me of "lying" on the Bible as you did in your previous post, lol. I may be a lot of things but a liar isn't one of them. Those aren't MY opinions about homosexuals, I'm giving you scripture from YOUR own book and because you disagree with them you constantly seek to deflect from it's condemnation of homosexuals and homosexuality which is as clear as day. I've read the Bible from cover to cover and while I've admittedly forgotten much of it I still rememer clearly many of these things it clearly says and although it does contain a lot of good it I no longer consider it a "holy" book that must be completely follow to the letter. That was a very compelling story and it illustrates how religious so-called "scripture" can divide people one against the other and even tear family members apart and send them at eachother's throats. Just all the more reason for us to follow The Supreme Being directly....instead of getting our morals from other human beings or man-made books and writtings that have been distilled from the thinking of men/women who merely CLAIM to speak for the divine.

People who were very active in the R&B community back in the 90s had known for years how big a freak R. Kelly was and about his devious sexual escapades. I'm waiting on Lifetime or some other major channel to show: Surviving Anthony Weiner Surviving Harvey Weinstein Surviving Kevin Spacey Surviving The Catholic Priesthood. .....lol. Meanwhile, Tariq Nasheed isn't waiting on anyone but has decided to launch his own movement called #FIRSTTHEM https://youtu.be/ob8-uBdTmrU?t=2107 I like what he's doing because it adds balance and justice to all of these accusations of sexual impropriety that have thrown around lately. We need to make sure they don't try to put a BLACK face on sexual criminality like they've put an Arab face on terrroorism and a Latino face on illegal immigration. They tried to do this years ago with the entire "street harassment" issue accusing Black and Latino men of harassing women on the streets of New York, until it was unsurfaced that far more White men were doing it than anyone else. But they're not going to demonize and prosecute Black men while quietly sweeping under the rug or settling out of court the behavior of White public figures who have been caught on video sexually assaulting women and committing other unspeakable crimes.

Chev THE BIBLE DOES NOT SAY THAT I, a common person is suppose to go out and JUDGE or PUNISH a HOMOSEXUAL!!! LOL! That is crazy! Your Bible in the Book of Leviticus 20:13 clearly states: "If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. " Not only does it call for you to judge them but to also punish them. If that's crazy.....it's YOUR book. 　 The Bible does NOT say this!!! STOP lying against the Bible!!! I told you that is a government issue. God in his word NEVER allows common people to judge a person for this sin. But if you are so sure, then provide the Bible reference. I'm NOT lying. I you want references then I'll provide references from BOTH the Old and New Testament that condemn homosexuality: Old Testament You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22) If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. (Leviticus 20:13) New Testament Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-10) 　 The law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, men who practise homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine. (1 Timothy. 1:9-10) 　 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.(Romans 1:26,27) These are all scriptures directly from the Bible that condemn homosexuality and puts it in the same category as other sins like theft, murder, and enslavement and makes it clear that it is NOT to be accepted. Again, I would never reject someone who has been victimized as a child or by the prison system or etc. just because they are homosexuals and the Bible does NOT list this sin as being unforgivable, at all. People should have the same human right as you to work out their own salvation as long as they are not harming innocence. You're making excuses to be friends with and accept what your book clearly condemns and tells you NOT to accept. Yes SOME homosexuals may have been abused as children or in prison but not all have and we don't know for sure that this causes homosexuality. Plenty of heterosexuals were abused as children and in prison. Just like your claim that Jesus walked with everyone as an excuse to justify homosexuals....will you make the same excuses for pedophiles or serial killers or serial rapists? You're picking and choosing WHICH "sinners" you want to accept and judge and WHICH ones you want to condemn. 　 Then Jesus told the woman, [parapharasing] Where are your accusers? Go, and sin no more.' Jesus did not punish her. Just as I wouldn't punish you for believing that it is okay to have multiple sex partners even if they are married!!! I said multiple sex partners if YOU are married to them, not if they are married to someone else. I never said it was OK to have sex with people who are married to others already. Further....... If Jesus said go and SIN NO MORE then that means they are supposed to STOP doing what they were guilty of doing. But most homosexuals CONTINUE to engage in homosexuality while at the same time their Christian friends....usually women....continue to hang out with them, go shopping with them, and be good friends with them. Again, I'm not into these major organized religions so I'm not condemning homosexuals. I'm condemning the hypocrisy of so many AfroAmericans who CLAIM to be Christian or Hebrew but accept what their own book clearly condemns.

What "lie" did I tell? I quoted the story as it is written in Genesis. Jacob....the "suplanter" ....the said father of the Israelites.....allegedly struggled/wrestled/fought with God. People can spin it any way they want, but the fact is.....if someone actively fights with or opposes God they are rebelling against the divine. And according to Genesis, what did the Israelites do? They went from Africa to Asia invading, robbing, pillaging, and slaughtering men, women, and children. They went around taking over other people's land and enslaving people all while claiming their "God" told them to do it. Does this behavior sound familiar?