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ProfD Over time, there have been moments where Hollywood showed dark-skinned actors & actresses. How often are they show as couples TOGETHER? Either in the movies OR in real life? It's usually a dark skinned Black person with a light skinned partner....OR Latina OR White. Since the 70s you haven't really seen two dark skinned Black people making love to eachother except for the movie Queen and Slim Black folks cannot merely complain about how we are being mistreated &/or portrayed. We have to rewrite the narratives. People generally don't complain about something they DO NOT see as a problem. Just like most people on this site don't see an actual "problem" with dark skinned people not being portrayed as beautiful and attractive and wanted....it appears that most Black people in general don't see it as a problem either. Some of us do....but most could care less and are indifferent to it. I used to hear SOME dark skinned Black women complaining about it back in the 80s and 90s....about how light skinned women got preferential treatment. I don't even hear them complain about it much now. Many are either lesbian or with White partners. They won't even bother complaining to deaf ears about it, let along fight against it. richardmurray what do you want exactly? I am a little confused. I want you to stop being confused and understand, lol. Cynique while making sure to upgrade yourself from those with brown skin. How? I could cast you as a phony "blacker-the-berry-sweeter-the-juice" pimp who "gets off" from being a hero to some vulnerable self-pitying dark-skinned sista. I wouldn't exactly call myself a "pimp" but I have benefited....sometimes sexually...from speaking to and addressing the hurt a lot of Black women have felt for various reasons whether it's from being dark-skinned, being a foreigner in another country, coming from an abusive relationship, etc. I stand by that and see nothing wrong with it. who, were the tables turned, would act no different from the Whites he feels so oppressed by. Not exactly. Some of their behaviors I'd adopt, others I wouldn't. frankster Strange....but correct me if I am wrong..... The Algorithm to responsds to what you view most often by putting similar content on your feed....it is design to responds to what you view most often So if these article on clear skin blacks are appearing in your feed it is a result of what you are currently view or have habitually viewed I WILL correct you, because you ARE wrong...lol. As you've already seen, I haven't looked up or researched any of these individuals nor have I researched or looked up "light skinned Black celebrities" or anything of that nature. I'm not into celebrity gossip. Again, they're being PUT there....like many other ads that we don't ask for. Anyways all the pictures you posted are of Black People ....if that's what you want to call 'em. Yes...they are the being portrayed as the ideal.....they actually are commercial sales and marketing bodies and faces These are celebrities....not role models Anyone treating them as role models has made a grievous mistake.. I agree. However do you see the point I am making ABOUT them? The fact that these yellow/tan people ARE being promoted as role models? Yes.....who owns most of Mass Media outlets that these celebs work for? People who have enough sense to promote the IMAGE of who they want the future to look like. Admin No not exactly. Think of the algorithm's goal -- to maximize revenue (show you more sponsored content and ads) and it does this by keeping you engaged showing you what you "view most often" is simplistic. You view most often what you are shown and you are shown what keeps you engaged, so there is a strong bias to rage bait, celebrity gossip/scandal/humorous content, that is quickly consumed over things things requiring thought, contemplation, nuanced, or simply reading. Exactly, that's how they sucker a lot of people in. You may not INITIALLY be interested but pop up enough random material enough times....they're BOUND to send you something you'll like and then you'll go down the rabbit hole looking for more. But they hook you by offering you the initial bait you didn't even want or ask for. Like a drug pusher in the school yard. They keep pushing different products on you and different times UNTIL they get you hooked on something. I researched none of these people in any way shape or form NOR did I research "Black celebrities" or "light skinned Blacks". I haven't even said it....lol. There is no reason for the internet to somehow "pick up" on this and send me these images EXCEPT the fact that they know if you're a Black user and these are the images they are intentionally promoting to Black users. Look I know none of us spend hours scrolling through a TikTok feed, but a great many other people do Cynique probably does....lol.

ProfD Christian Nationalism is another aspect of the evangelical movement. Towns, communities & schools are being set up in a throwback to the 1800s. These people are predominantly white. You know from the teachings of Neely Fuller Jr. that White people are big on CODES and using coded language. Just substitute the word "Christian" for "White" and that's what you have....White Nationalists. They believe in preserving White Anglo Saxon Protestant heritage and keeping things old fashioned. They don't even trust other Whites if they're Jewish, Catholic, or of Eastern European descent. The Handmaid's Tale is a good series of novels and television shows to study to understand the thinking of a lot of these people because that's the type of society they want to turn the United States into. I doubt liberal white folks will allow the Chrsitian Nationalists to take over the country & force everyone to adopt it. It depends on what THEY'D get out of it. Many if not most so-called "liberal" White folks are only liberal because they have some sort of VICE or WEIRDNESS that keeps them from being accepted by the mainstream White society. They may be homosexual, into scat, avid drug users, uncontrollable urge to have sex with Black or Brown people...lol. But they're into "something" that is frowned upon by more conservative White society at large. They're angry at "society" or "White society" because it condemns whatever they're into. So because White society doesn't welcome THEM with open arms, they run and hook up with the Blacks and Latinos and preach an "all is love" doctrine. But ever when White conservatives start getting afraid over low numbers...especially in certain districts....they'll embrace their "black sheep"....the liberal Whites and their vices and the liberal Whites will gladly accept and turn on their Black "allies" and act like they never knew them, lol. The *smartest* thing the USA did was allowing people from all of the planet to come & live in this country. I don't know if it was the "smartest". Actually giving us Reparations would be MUCH smarter....lol. But I understand your point and believe that it's VERY smart for America to bring in people...especially skilled and educated people...from around the globe to come and help build up the nation's economy. It's called "brain drain" and the West has been doing it for decades.

To those of you who disagree with my stance on how to reverse the colorism in our community..... Please show me a few RECENT (within the past 20 years) examples DARK SKINNED Black couples being promoted in the media. Light skin is OBVIOUSLY being promoted as attractive and love interests in the media, so show me examples of how DARK skin is!

These 2 articles came into my feed nearly back to back this morning. Boris Kodjoe Told “Soul Food” Costar Nicole Ari Parker She Was Going Be His Wife While She Was Engaged to Someone Else Boris Kodjoe Told “Soul Food” Costar Nicole Ari Parker She Was Going Be His Wife While She Was Engaged to Someone Else Solange's son, 21, sparks dating rumors with reality star Tommie Lee, 41 Solange's son, 21, sparks dating rumors with reality star Tommie Lee, 41 Light skinned couples calling themselves or being called "Black"....hooking up with eachother and the media promoting it big time. I didn't research and I don't follow any of the actors or actresses in these articles so they're obviously being promoted to the Black audience and general audience as more celebrity gossip. But mixed up in this entertainment gossip is the poisons of racism and colorism by promoting light skinned "Blacks" as the representatives of the community and suggesting that these are the "ideal" hook ups. Also, it subconsciously promotes the idea that the "Black children" that result from such hook-ups would be the "ideal" or "designer" children in our community. Infact, the light skinned children of Kanye West and Jay Z and how they're being promoted are yet another example of how light skinned individuals are being promoted as the ideal representatives of our community. At the rate things are going with lighter and lighter skinned people being promoted as "Black"....who's to say that a couple of generations from now ACTUAL WHITE people will not only be accepted as but even promoted as the ideal "Black" people?

One of the problems with BET, Bounce, and the others is that they are CABLE channels and you need a subscription to view them. We should have BEEN had a Black nationally broadcasted channel that you can see for free on any television device like Latinos have. It should be as simple as sitting down and turning on ANY television to watch our programs and communicate with eachother. No subscriptions, funny passwords, denial of service in the area, etc....

frankster I can and I have..... I reluctant to provide you with proof That's obvious, because you haven't yet. Again, I asked: Can you provide proof or strong evidence of dark skinned Black women who having HAD low self esteem finding more love for themselves and raising their esteem from the study of these disciplines as taught in Western Academia? I didn't ask you for proof of Black female psychologists who learned self-love from living in society. I asked you SPECIFICALLY...about DARK SKINNED Black females and the benefits they got from THE STUDY OF THOSE DISCIPLINES (psychology, sociology, human development, philosophy) as taught in Western Academia. In other words........ Can you provide examples of dark skinned Black women having their self esteem raised and/or finding more love for themselves as a direct result of the study of those subjects? Do you understand what I'm asking for? You would do this in the same manner or similar to what black Africans have been experiencing globally? No, actually I would do the OPPOSITE. Teach them to love THEMSELVES instead of white and light skinned people. Then you have adopted the ways of either the wicked oppressor or ignorant or both Wicked or not, if he's teaching HIS people to love themselves AND teaching others to love them too....he's got good sense. We could learn a thing or two from him. Maybe we SHOULD consider adopting a few of his ways. Is not the OPPRESSOR in a better position than the OPPRESSED? So you would if given the ability/power to use Global Mass Media to perpetuate the same wrong on others? No. Teaching people to love themselves doesn't wrong others. Would you consider what you are recommending bigotry or racist or both? What I "consider" it is irrelevant compared to whether it's needed or not. If you have a sick loved one and I can provide a cure, it doesn't matter whether it's "considered" conventional medicine, alternative medicine, or witchcraft....as long as it works. You would refuse to promote a light skinned black African woman? In terms of beauty? No. Now if she has other abilities and benefits worth promoting, sure. I can promote her in terms of education, health care, demonstrating a vacuum cleaner...lol. There's a lot of things I can promote a light skinned AfroAmerican for, but I wouldn't promote their skin color NOR would I promote THEM as standards of beauty. Notice the T-shirt he is wearing that is White.....his skin is actually extremely pale brown Looks extremely pale/light pink...to me. The only "brown" in that man is a turd that ain't came out yet...lol. Would you consider this a racist attitude? No, because we're not dealing with race. We're dealing with color/complexion alone. Then the imbalance remains... Not if it's shifted properly. How so? please explain? If you start off with 5 stones on one side and 20 stones of the same weight on the other side....that's an imbalance, right? Supposed you add 10 stones to BOTH SIDES. You didn't correct the IMBALANCE. Now you have 15 stones on one side and 30 on the other...and it's STILL uneven. Adding the SAME amount of stones to both sides isn't the solution to balancing things out. Likewise, teaching children that ALL shades are beautiful will not balance things out when society has been teaching that lighter is better for 500 years. I think you can achieve balance without shifting......just by adding. Sure, as long as you're adding to the side that needs it the most. Yes....they are descendants of Africa and Africans - they do share a resemblance to the Khoi-san peoples of Africa I asked you WHAT PART of Africa THEY came from. Do you know? You are proposing to continue the divid and promote white people as inferior? No

I've been noticing a trend over the past decade of how so many AfroAmerican movies and television shows debut on Netflix as opposed to the major theaters and broadcasting channels now. This reminds me of how as a kid all of the major television networks like NBC, ABC, and CBS featured Black television shows and movies not only through out the day but also in primetime. Then starting around the mid-90s they started systematically taking Black television shows and movies and "relocating" them to networks like UPN and the CW channel. And then moved many of them off completely. It's getting to the point that every time I see an article about a new Black television show, I start skimming over the words until I see "Netflix" in the article because I know that's where I'll have to go if I want to see it. Yet at the same time Latinos have 2 major television networks (Univision and Telemundo) that Latinos from one end of the United States to the other can sit down and freely enjoy watching without passwords, fees, or subscriptions.

frankster These are the professionals who help people who suffer with low self esteem.... If that does not convince you....then you must do the research - if you want to know. I repeat the question: Can you provide proof or strong evidence of dark skinned Black women who having HAD low self esteem finding more love for themselves and raising their esteem from the study of these disciplines as taught in Western Academia? Either you can, can't, or don't feel like doing it. Yes I do... Which or who do you want to exclude? For a period of time....all of them EXCEPT medium brown, dark brown, and black. So you desire to start another form of discriminatory hierarchy of what is beauty. Correct. So you want to promote only these colors? Correct. And what of the rest or other colors? I wouldn't promote them. We all shades of Brown Skin. Most, but not everybody. Many are almost white or various shades of red. Others are actually black. To leave out any is to be Discriminatory and preferentially biased against one in favor of the other. Correct. And I want to leave out MOST of them, so that's some big time discrimination fo' yo' ass.....lol. In that way you have not solved the problem....you have only shifted the problem to the other side. Sometimes SHIFTING the problem IS solving the problem. If a weight on one side is causing an imbalance, you SHIFT more weight to the other side to correct it. Adding the SAME amount of stones to both sides won't correct the imbalance. You have to SHIFT the weight. Yes All peoples are Descended from Africa and Africans. What part of Africa do the ESKIMOS come from? We must teach that beauty exist in all shades Why "must" we teach that? Who made it mandatory? What religious text commands us to do so? Is there no Beauty among white and lighter skinned peoples? Sure. And this society has no problem reminding us of this. How can that be the opposite? Because the community was ALREADY divided with many light skinned people being held as superior. We are teaching our people that Beauty is found in a single shade....which is white and light? No, multiple shades of brown.....and black. Are we teaching that beauty exist in all shades? We??? Lol, well...I don't know what YOU are teaching the youth at YOUR house but at MY house I teach the youth that dark is beautiful. So you are proposing to teach that beauty exist only in "medium"? No. Medium brown, dark brown, and black. Not that beauty ONLY exists in these shades, but these shades are the focus. But you are not suggesting a balance? Ofcourse it is. Semantics Natural/Nature is Universal No, "natural" is what humans are born with and "universal" is usually understood as that which is found in cultures around the globe whether it's natural or culturally imposed. Yes....We are Competitive by nature - We are also Co-operative by Nature. This is not a Contest where some must Lose in order that others may Win. This is a Society where all can Win. In a competition...there is no such thing as "all winning". If one person or group wins, the other person or group loses. Even if they come in at 2nd or 3rd place, they didn't win...they lost. You seem like one of those coaches who believes ball players should get a trophy for just showing up to practice whether they actually win the game or not....lol. By promoting your own as the "most beautiful" then those that are not your own are they least beautiful It depends. If there are MULTIPLE choices that are not my own, then the one at the BOTTOM is the "lease beautiful" but their may be different gradations in the middle. The situation remains it is just foisted on someone else Which is not necessarily a bad thing. Yes beauty is Universal but influenced by culture. The CONCEPT of beauty is universal but the STANDARDS of beauty are not. Even with Western Imperialism imposing their standards around the planet, various standards can still be found around the planet.

The Arabs and Europeans are enemies. Does that mean that Arabs are friends to Black people?

ProfD Sure. Especially men who don't attract women naturally. As it SHOULD be. Every man ain't "got it" like that. A lack of financial security makes all of that harder to obtain & causes unnecessary stress. In this society, yes.

frankster Psychology, Human Development, Sociology and Philosophy Can you provide proof or strong evidence of dark skinned Black women who having HAD low self esteem finding more love for themselves and raising their esteem from the study of these disciplines as taught in Western Academia? Which is what I am and was saying or meant by "all tones hues and shades". See, and THAT'S one of the problems. You want to include ALL hues and shades and I don't. Now what did you mean by "medium"? These colors: These are medium brown skin colors found through out the Black American and sub-Saharan African communities. Some Africans are lighter than this....usually through admixture, and many are naturally darker than this. But these are shades pretty much in the middle. Did you actually mean "average"? I guess you can call it that too. Another term for it would be "brown skinned". or where you agreeing with me? Not when you include the yellow, white, and tan/olive skin tones. They already get enough representation as it is. What shade is the norm in our community? When it comes to skin color, I don't like using the term "norm". It implies that those NOT of that color are AB-normal. Again what really are we disagreeing on or about? See the above. You keep trying to include ALL colors and EVERYbody. Just like you want to make ALL people African....lol. The problem is to teach to hate dislike fear and to find black skin offensive disgusting or revolting... Which is why we must teach the opposite. I would teach the Truth....we all beautiful But that wouldn't be the truth....because not everybody is beautiful. That's like saying everybody is good or everybody is smart; we know this isn't true. We should promote all forms of beauty No! White and lighter skinned people don't need any more promotion for THEIR beauty. We need to promote DARK beauty for a change. Yes if we do what you are suggesting that will be the result....We are divided NOW Because of it. Actually, we are divided now because of the OPPOSITE. The colorist division that exists in our community comes from too many of our people thinking that White and light is superior and better and more attractive. It comes from many light skinned people thinking they are superior, smarter, and more beautiful simply because they look closer to Whites. And you are now suggest we do the same but directed to another part of our community. I'm suggesting that we BALANCE things out. When a scale is LOP SIDED and NOT BALANCED....you don't add weight to BOTH sides of it! You add more weight to ONE SIDE until it is equal to the other. Well at least you see part of the problem with your suggested idea. Yes, and I also see the problem that comes from it NOT being implemented. .....the long lasting problem of letting self-hatred fester and not be addressed or resolved. Yes The Universal Standard is Symmetry and Balance(phi/Fibonacci) Symmetry and balance are the NATURAL standards, but not necessarily the Universal standards. Why must it be competitive as in "most beautiful"? 2 Reasons: 1. Because competition is human nature. 2. Because unlike ATTRACTION....beauty is subjective, and must constantly be affirmed and standardized to maintain any legitimacy. The Standard is already Universal...It is not so-called Racial or Ethnic. If that Standard were Universal....we'd find those same standards among all or atleast most peoples around the planet regardless of culture or contact. The fact is, beauty....unlike attraction...is largely CULTURAL and is maintained through culture and indoctrination. One wonders what do the women of the am*zon Indigenous tribes think of Black men since they've rarely come into any contact with let alone indoctrination from the outside world. ProfD There's no shortage of brothas with unattractive, overweight white women. That's one of the points I was making. Maybe those overweight White women ARE attractive to the bruthaz they are with. Maybe WHITE MEN consider them unattractive, but BLACK MEN may find them VERY attractive. It's interesting that you prefer petite, feminine Black women but if you had to take one of those white women it would be the thicker one. I prefer thick or voluptuous women over skinny ones of any race...period. But that being said, every day I see petite slim women who I find very attractive. What advantage does a white woman gain in being with a Black man? According to many of them, a better sex life and being less controlled and domineered. Instead of focusing on the superficial i.e. looks, Black folks should be trying to figure out how to build & connect with each other in order to own sh8t & amass wealth. But at the end of the day, sex and....as Jay Z would say...WHO YOU WIT'.....is one of the major goals. One of the reasons men GET money and wealth and try to make something of themselves is to attract more women. That's the purpose of much of it. Take the female and sex factor a way and what are you doing with the money? You got a big ass house....a mansion....and nobody in it but you.....and a tube of Vaseline....lol. Sex, health, food, land, weapons to protect them.....these are some of the REAL wealth. Financial security is just a common means for attaining them.

ProfD Man, I've seen this dude on youtube a number of times but didn't really look into him much until YOU said something about it. When I first saw him, the first 30 seconds of seeing him reminded me of Malcolm X! It wasn't him holding his chin with his finger to his temple like Malcolm, which I guess he is trying to make HIS signature pose, but the way he had the cameras angled up at him and the way he's stare out of the side of his eyes through some old fashioned horn rimmed glasses. I thought it WAS some sort of AI of Malcolm being remade as an advanced older age version of him. When I realized it wasn't, I said, "This dude has been sitting up here watching Malcolm X videos and is trying to imitate him" I don't know whether to be outraged or impressed, because he's got the mannerisms down pat. Just when I begin to get angry, the question comes...where is the AfroAmerican version of a Malcolm X wanna be? Where are the BLACK MEN...even African....who are trying to dress and talk and act like Malcolm, like this dude? I can't get too angry at the White dude for doing it if we don't have any Black ones trying to fill the void.

That reminded me of the late great Robin Harris when he would talk about how "holey" somebody's shoes and clothes were....lol.

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ProfD Those African nations chose to make unfair deals for themselves with oppressors. Unlike the United States, where regardless of what they say or how much they complain about it...the majority of the people (White people) agree with any shady deals their leaders make.....I can't say it's the same with African nations. So when you say those African nations choose to make those unfair deals, we should understand that you mean the LEADERS of those nations...not that most of the PEOPLE necessarily agree to being sold out. Rich in natural resources if the 53 African nations worked together they wouldn't need outsiders. Facts...big time. Although I'd exclude about half a dozen or so of those countries...lol. I wouldn't suggest working with Algeria, Sudan, Tunisia, Mauritania, Morocco, Egypt, or even Somalia. Some rotten apples will spoil the rest. No time to be dealing with racist Arabs and racist Black folks who hate their own and don't even want to be Black. Burkina Faso's Ibrahim Traore is trying to break out of the French stranglehold on his country. We're going to have to keep an eye on that dude, because there are a few things I find questionable. For one, he's clearly MILITARY oriented...which means he believes power and success comes from maintaining military control and possibly violence. Also, it seems as if he wants to replace a lot of American and French businesses and military commerce with Russian businesses and commerce. Replacing one White colonialist with another isn't the way to go. Especially after seeing how the Russians did Venezuela and is doing Iran.

ProfD No doubt. It takes the *right* man & a lot of patience. She may need a "perfect" man, with the patience of a saint...lol. That's one *excuse*. Most often, dark brothas want the lightest woman they can get. It doesn't get any lighter than white. It's an excuse, but a lot of times it's valid. Same with dark skinned women. I've noticed over the years that a lot of dark skinned Black people seek comfort and "love" from White people and the White community that they seemed to not have found among their own. A lot of dark skinned....especially skinny....sistaz say they got with White men because Black men didn't want them. I can't say they were lying. I passed up a lot of slim dark skinned females back in the day. Totally ignored them. Not even on my radar. Now nearly every dark skinned woman gets my attention, initially atleast. Especially if she speaks with an accent...lol. And when I say dark skinned I mean DARK..including jet black. I was watching a movie last night starring a sista who was not only very dark but slim and actually had a bald fade, and made-up with a scar on her face....and was STILL sexy as fuck. Jodie Turner Smith But this is how she usually looks, with hair....lol. Then, those brothas feel 1) validated from any childhood trauma as a result of being dark & 2) *won* in the system of racism white supremacy if the white woman looks good. I've heard over and over about how Black men get with "ugly" White women or White women that White men don't want. In my experiences and observations, this is only true when you're dealing with bums and homeless people....or street people. Other than that; most Black men with White women are with the type THEY find attractive. For example....... If I HAD to choose a White woman, and had to choose between these two: I'm gong to pick the one on the right. Most White men will think the blonde one on the left looks better but ME and most Black men feel the one on the right is more attractive. We like what WE like....and a lot of White women began picking up on that in the 70s and 80s and used it to their advantage. Straight from the proverbial Willie Lynch letter, colorism has done a bang up job on many Black folks. This is true. Perhaps some would argue that the ideology I'm promoting in this thread is a product of Willie Lynch. Turning the "light skinned slave" against the "dark skinned slave" and vice versa. However the division is already there and the preference for light skin in the community already exists, so how else will this be reversed and our collective esteem be raised UNLESS we promote dark again?

They'll put Black and Brown people in meaningless and powerless positions all day long. Shuffling them around. Hire some....fire others....pay them some peanuts and give them a few perks. Things you do to simple little kids, to keep them occupied. But when it comes to MAJOR real life things involving ground breaking technology and the future of humanity (especially White humanity).....no time for game playing. Get a proper talking White man...preferably White Anglo-Saxon of middle to upper class background....to handle it. From time to time I think of that episode of Sanford and Son when Fred preferred a WHITE dentist over a Black one...lol. He said a brutha is alright for a drinking buddy, but when it comes to a doctor he preferred a White one...lol.

Interesting how a place with so much continuous war and violence is called "The Holy Land".

ProfD Black folk don't really have to trust &/or deal with Iranians or Arabs either. Black Americans generally don't have to. However some of our brothers and sisters in Africa have to deal with Arabs as their only source for communications, fuel, and technology outside of their nations. It's a shame. For some of them, their only choices are the European oppressor or the Middle Eastern oppressor.

I'd like to see one of Malcolm X and Marcus Garvey both in their prime but presented as current.

ProfD If a Black man steps up & loves that woman...problem solved. If... But if "if" were a "fifth"....a lot of people would walk around fucked up, lol. How can a man love a woman who really doesn't love herself? Because of her low self esteem, she will act in a way that PREVENTS him from "loving" her and getting too close. Entertainment & religion both try to get people to see themselves & each other in a better light. True. Also, it brings out the "child like" raw emotions that make people vulnerable to influence. Dark-skinned should be leading the charge in keeping themselves pumped. ....instead of trying to marry as many White or light people as they can and "mate out" their dark genetics, like so many of them do. A lot of dark skinned bruthaz get with White women because of how the sistaz treated them in childhood. frankster Educations is more than Intellect and Reasoning True, but those are the primary factors for education. Depends on what she gets a PhD in... Lol, ok...... So what PhD program do YOU know of that will correct the low self esteem of growing up as dark skinned Black female in this society? I think the word "medium" was a mistake and you meant to type "focus"... If that is what you meant then I disagree... Then you run the risk of the other hues tones and shades developing that which we are trying to Eradicate and Elliminate No, I meant medium. The point isn't to simply promote jet Black people as ideal. That's not realistic because the majority of our people (African people) aren't jet Black. The goal is to promote the "norm" with in our community. The HISTORIC norm....not the current "norm" which involves a lot of admixture. We should be promoting Black people who look like Black people have traditionally looked through out time, and that ranges from medium brown to very dark brown (almost jet black). That is true It is also true....that each individual is born without real cognizant memory of the past - and hence must be indoctrinated introduces socialized or taught about these things. While you're correct....THIS society as it is currently constructed IS teaching many children to cherish and desire white and light skin and hold it as the standard of beauty. We don't have to worry about that. This is why there must be an active campaign to teach the OPPOSITE in order to balance it out. It's not like from history up until now CLEAR people were being promoted....so now we must promote the various hues of light and dark. Light skin has BEEN promoted and is BEING promoted. We don't have to worry about them having a seat at the table, lol. Sounds reasonable.... But I would I would not recommend such actions To be honest, I'm still not completely sure if we SHOULD right now. It would undoubtedly lead to more division in the community and we'd have to weigh THAT against how long it would take to see the benefits of it. The benefits may take a generation or two, but the division and backlash from not just light skinned AfroAmericans but even brown and dark skinned AfroAmericans who would take offense to their light skinned friends and family members being "shaded", would be seen immediately. I have no problem with promoting "Black and African is beautiful".... But not to the point where one may come away with or begin to believe that white indian or asian is ugly. We all Beautiful....Vareity You're right, there is beauty in variety. However when it comes to culture and society....there is usually only ONE established aesthetical standard. One for males. One for females. ....everyone is measured against that. So if YOU don't promote YOUR OWN as being the most beautiful or as being the standard, then another group will surely promote THEIR OWN. ....and your children and their children will be forced to live with it. Currently, it's about White skin and blonde hair and blue eyes. But think of one generation after another of Black children growing up sad or angry or resentful because their skin ain't yellow and their eyes aren't slanted. If SOMEBODY has to be the standard of beauty, I'd rather it be US and not somebody else.

If I had a major media outlet where I could speak freely to the public, I'd be asking........... 1. Why do we need $200 billion more for a war conflict we "already won", according to the President? 2. Doesn't the Pentagon and Department of Defense have it's own money? Every department has it's own budget, so why does it need more funding from Congress? 3. What does MAGA and other Republicans who support Trump think of this, after he ran much of his campaign criticizing Biden and Obama for getting America in costly foreign conflicts around the globe? These are the questions TRUE opposition would be asking. But we know most of the opposition is controled anyway.

And let me guess without even doing any research.......... He was a White man. It's interesting to me that no matter how "integrated" out nation has allegedly become, there are still certain positions that ONLY White men hold. Government UFO research and other clandestine operations are just a few of them.

ProfD Lol....man, where do you come up with these lines?????