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Not as ironic as a Black woman who sits up and tries to justify a middle-aged White man preying on, grooming, and sexually molesting a 14 year old Black girl and forcing her to have his children....all the while calling her a "kept woman" with a benevolent "sugar daddy". Woman please..... When grown men are talking you better take your ass out the room and watch a damn soap opera or something....lol. Ain't "Boule Beyond The Gates", on?

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Self hatred and the desire to procreate with and blend into White society isn't exclusive to just one or two groups but can be find among people around the planet. Among Latinos, they have something called "Mejorando La Raza" which translates into "Bettering The Race" It's a custom found through out Latin America and Latino culture that basically advises ALL Latinos to seek either: -White Latinos -White Anglos -or atleast lighter skinned Latinos ...to marry and mate with so that the children will come out lighter and closer to White; which they consider "better". Infact, in some cases they can just skip the "marry" part and just MATE with White people and those children will be accepted into the family regardless as to the circumstances by which they were brought into the world. Does this sound familiar to anybody?

Mel Serena didn't lighten her skin! Didn't you see her during the Super Bowl! That's MAKEUP! Serena isn't your 'round the way girl', she is a freaking high-profile celebrity, and guess what, that's what celebrities do of ALL colors, ethnicities, and nationalities. Even sometimes they wear "black face" and deal with ignorance, but that's what high-profile people do! Mel, skin lightening is skin lightening as far as I'm concerned. It doesn't matter whether the product you're using is permanent or temporary and washes off at the end of the night. If you're using make-up that makes your skin lighter THINKING it makes you more beautiful or attractive in any way, it's a form of self-hatred. And yes, White people get sun tans for the same reason! It seems like you're just angry she didn't sideline herself because no Black man stood up and asked her to get married. How do we know that? Back in the early 2000s I saw pictures of Serena Williams in half the Black barbershops I went to and plenty of Black men on television were talking about how attractive she was. Certainly many of them WOULD have married her, for various reasons...lol. If you're any indication of how Black men treated her even with her celebrity, it makes sense why she just got off that merry-go-round. That suggests that Black women weren't created FOR Black men to marry or pro-create with or vice versa. If you look at most HEALTHY psychologically balanced human beings and even the animal kingdom....kind seeks to mate with and be with like kind. Shit, even TURTLES and RABBITS seek eachother to procreate with and be with! You don't catch female elephants hanging around male hippos looking for love and companionship and complaining about how the other male elephants treat them. "Hey yall..... I need some love and affection. Them elephant menz overthere ain't nice to me. They say my trunk is too long for a female elephant! Can I sleep with yall tonight???" You don't see no crazy shit like that going on in the animal kingdom. ONLY among human beings and ONLY in historically oppressed communities do you find people making and using excuses to justify their SELF HATRED and desire to seek out and be around and BLEND IN with other than their own kind. It's a psychological sickness that needs to be remedied.

ProfD Those dudes married their wives before they became successful. Yes! Which also means their wives chose THEM before they became "successful"...lol My point was, these are Black men who DID want to get married and GOT married and STAYED married. So we can't say that it isn't in our blood and that we....of all the other races of men...are some anomaly or freak of nature and just don't want to marry our women. That's some propagandist shit right there. Common and Drake and whoever else she dated could have left a bad taste in her mouth Well she dated BOTH men for over 3 years. So she MUST have acquired a taste for them like WARM BEER to put up with it for such a prolonged period of time...lol. We don't know why people break up, but we do know that most sexual relationships in the United States aren't forced which means that if she was with any man for more than a week...she was clearly attracted to him. What happened? What changed? We don't know. People do not have to justify who they choose to bun up with or bang or marry. Black mensl certainly aren't in a position to be judge or jury either. No. But women often do because they don't want to appear shallow or look like hypocrites for doing the same things they accuse MEN of doing. A dark skinned Black woman will criticize Black men for years and claim that they only like "light skinned" Black women. But then she'll turn around and start dating one or even a White man BECAUSE OF HOW HE LOOKS....but don't want to admit it. So she'll "make up" excuses of why she's with him like: -He's got money -He treats me right -He doesn't cheat ....even if NONE of these things are true or the same could be said about SOME of the Black men she COULD have dated, she'll say them to JUSTIFY why she's with a light skinned or White man; because she doesn't want to admit the REAL reason she's with him is because she likes the way he looks and thinks she's handsome and will make attractive children.

I also notice PATTERNS. Serena....like the rapper EVE....almost exclusively DATED Black men but MARRIED a White man. Why is that??? When it comes to dating...pretty much sex and hanging out...you enjoy the company of Black men. But when it comes to marriage...which is a little more serious...you seek out and choose White men. Interesting.....

ProfD Let's start with the GANGSTA Rappers...lol. Ice Cube, Dr. Dre, and even Snoop are all rappers who are not only married but have BEEN married to their spouses for a long time. There are plenty of Black men both celebrity and of non-celebrity status who don't mind getting married. Although I would say it's not for me or for everybody and I'd dare say marriage as it is traditionally defined isn't for MOST people in THIS society. This society isn't designed to support monogamy. But my point is, there are plenty of good successful Black men that Serena COULD marry if that was who she was looking for. Mel's daughter just found a Black man to marry! I'm not sure how successful he is, but that alone is an example. Just like we can't make excuses for criminality, we can't make excuses for people who are in love with White skin and use any type of flaw that Black men in general may have or propaganda against our community to JUSTIFY their infatuation with White skin or the privileges that go along with it. Serena has been "suspect" for a long time, in my book. Not just the blonde dye in her hair but lightening up her skin....all tell-tale signs. Self-hatred is a generational curse. It's often passed down from one generation to the next. If you have parents or A parent who hates themselves or the way they look and YOU look like them, there is a chance that that psychological problem will be passed along to you UNTIL you break it.

....yes, nice pictures. Your 80-something year old mother isn't bad looking either! Hey Mel, I have an idea If she's not seeing anybody..... Why don't you, me, ProfD, and Mama-Mel Hopkins....all meet up and go on a double date! I'm sure Mama Mel would find ProfD interesting! I'm sure he's a GREAT conversationalist.....LOL. PS....tell your White ex to take his hand off of her shoulder! We don't play that around here.

ProfD It's hard to believe he's been locked up for nearly a year. Do you believe they'll actually APPLY the time he served in jail to his prison sentence and reduce it to 38 months? I want to see some actual recent pictures of him. I want to see what his hair and beard look like. If they look anything like the court drawings they've been showing in the media.

ProfD There you go stealing the thunder again, because I was going to say the SAME THING about Drake....LOL. Also, both of these men are...through out much of Black America...thought of as "weak" or not very masculine or dominant. Both Common and Drake are on the "Will Smith" level of hardness when it comes to Hiphop....lol. Mel No, I don't. But I didn't really keep up with those celebrity relationships like that...lol. However if this is true it would back up an observation I've been seeing for years. -The same Black women who insist that the Black men she dates be "thuggish" or hard, will turn right around and be open to dating a White man who meets NONE of those standards and is as soft as a pussy cat both mentally and physically. A lot of Black women who wouldn't say "good morning" to a nerdy or geeky Black man would GLADLY give a nerdy White man or soft or weak or wimpy White man a chance, and take time to get to know him. Often times they IGNORE his short-comings or even see them as cute. Now seriously..... I have no problem with her wanting to get married and have a beautiful family; but the fact that her and so many Black women seem to "only" want this or find this with a White man makes me suspicious. For one, that doesn't mean that it's TRUE. It merely means that they're SAYING it. In other word, there are PLENTY of handsome intelligent Black men Serena or any other Black woman COULD find to marry and have a beautiful family with but the question is is that what they REALLY want? Or do some of them REALLY want a White man to lay up with and use this as an EXCUSE to justify their infatuation with and love for White men??? Like I said earlier.... Some Black women get along better in relationships with White men because THEY CHANGE THEIR OWN BEHAVIOR when they are with White men. They aren't as combative or confrontational, which in turn causes the man they're with to be less aggressive and treat them more delicately. This is why I keep saying Psychological Warfare is REAL.

Ahhhh man..... Lol.... Mel why did you have to go ahead and post those lovely pictures???? You know how jealous "you know who" is, around here! You know how "you know who" likes to be the center of my/male attention around here! Now you're going to sit up there with a smile on your face and post some pictures of yourself??? ....with some silky soft shoulders???? Shiiiiiit, you MIGHT have just made yourself an enemy....lol. Mel those were truly beautiful pictures. I'm not just talking about you and your family but seeing all of those attractive well groomed Black folks dressed up and acting in concert for your daughter's wedding is phenomenal. It's something that you don't see much in the AfroAmerican community now a days and it's very much welcomed. I really mean that. I'm also glad that your mixed daughter chose a handsome intelligent looking Black man. Judging by how he's standing and looking....I'd say he either has his own business or WILL have one soon. He has that determined look in his eyes.

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I think alliances are actually MORE beneficial and dependable than friendships in most cases! Atleast with an alliance both of you have a CLEAR understanding and know what to expect from eachother; unlike many friendships where there are too many unspoken rules and expectations.

ProfD He has a mission but may need help getting out of that ditch. True. Unless he doesn't see being in that ditch as a problem to begin with....lol. The current administration deployed the national guard to DC and n8gglets stopped committing as many crimes. Did it help? I didn't follow the news about it too much but they said there were indeed a number of days that D.C. went without homicides. That's they wanna have "good guys with guns" in schools. Mass shooters are less likely to show up at schools if they know strapped folks are walking around. Either that, or the stressed out teachers and other staff with mental issues would then become the new "school shooters" instead of the students...lol.

ProfD Sure, she had choices. She could've stayed in France or ran away or killed herself. Just to name a few things. That's like telling a prison inmate that they shouldn't complain about doing their time behind bars because they have a choice to kill themselves or seriously injure themselves to the point of remaining hospitalized. Those aren't practical "choices". At some point, it has to be consensual especially when babies kept popping out. "At some point" isn't good enough. Stockholm Syndrome is real, and people can often fall in love with their abusers if given enough time and isolation. Not always....but it happens. He shouldn't have fucked with a 14 year old girl in the first place, plain and simple. He never should have gotten the opportunity for her to "fall" for him, if she ever did. I doubt those interracial relationships were down south up to the Mason-Dixon line. The white racists didn't play those games. Former boxing champ Jack Johnson had his way with white women. It led to riots and fines and prison time for him. In 1959, married couple Richard and Mildred Loving were convicted of breaking the law in Virginia. In1967, the Supreme Court ruled that laws banning interracial marriages were unconstitutional. Those were interesting lessons in history, however the question remains: If the majority of interracial relationships when White men were in total control were White men with Black women....but once Black people had more liberation and White women were able to choose who they wanted as well....then all of a sudden Black men with White women became the predominate interracial relationships; what does that tell you? I'm not sure what it tells YOU, but it tells ME that when women of BOTH races were given the freedom to choose the type of men THEY really want to be with....both races tend to choose Black men over White men. Which tells me that by nature, WE are more attractive. They need to make "circumstances" in order to force women to choose them. According to history, Thomas Jefferson seemed to treat Sally Hemings very well. Not trying to hear read it..... She was a teenage girl. ProfD and Cynique Since yall seem to want to focus on how "well" Thomas Jefferson treated his 14 year old concubine instead of the fact that she was only 14, I got a question for both of you: If a 30 year old man were to pick up a 14 year old girl off the streets and use her for sexual purposes...do you think the judge or jury would care if he kept her in a nice clean well furnished room with plenty of entertainment and bought her the finest clothes? Do you think any of that would matter to them?

ProfD The system of democracy worked as designed to keep that from happening. Come on man, you know this ain't a "Democracy". That word is a joke and doesn't apply to any nation on the planet. This nation is an Oligarchy Plutocracy. Ruled by the few rich elite. The military pledges loyalty to the US Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. If there's anything you learned from Neely Fuller Jr., is that the Racists are loyal to the Religion of RACISM over and above anything else. Even their own families. A racist will even kill his own wife and children and every dog in the house in the name of "honoring" the system of Racism. That's where they give their complete loyalty. There is no Constitution or any other sheet of paper that they respect more than the System of Racism. Police officers who are sworn to duty are a good example of how much they respect their "oaths"...lol. POTUS OJ and his sycophants don't want to FAFO. Well, they don't have to. They already found out after this nation selected elected him again...lol.

ProfD I don't believe we have given them a misson to do and/or an agenda to fulfill. If a man is stuck in a ditch, does he need someone to give him a "mission" to accomplish? It's easy to sit around and do nothing when there are no assignments. Is there such a thing a person who is poor and a victim of police brutality but doesn't have an assignment to focus on? I'm not sure if such a person exists. Gotta have ideas, plans and blueprints before anything can be built. Gotta have properly working brains TO have ideas, plans, and blueprints. Your neural pathways can't be all clogged up from that fake-ass weed from the local dispensary down the street. However, there is no better time than present for Black folks to become proficient in weapons training. Even when it comes to THAT, we better think very seriously. Give SOME of these niggaz weapons and training and GUESS who they'll turn around and use them on? And I mean over some of the pettiest of bullshit. We gave you top notch military training and tactics to defend the community, and instead you're stalking and stuffing some confused brutha in the trunk of his own car and threatening to take his life because he won a rap battle against you.

ProfD We have no friends. ....I wonder why? We CAN have allies, if we play our cards right. But if you're a fool and too silly to even put together an agenda and push it....you can't BLAME others for not wanting to work with or even around you. I've worked with people of all races and many cultural and religious backgrounds whether it was on jobs or in community based organizations. Many of them were racist and didn't like Black people at all, but we were able to get along well enough to accomplish certain goals. Because I and the other Black people had something THEY wanted and vice versa. Too many of our people are under the mistaken impression that other people should like them just because they exist. Because THEY often feel the same way about other races....and just like them because they aren't Black. But in actuality you need to bring something to the table for people to fucks with you. Troy I'm not sure what is meant by ultra-Socialist any way. Someone who not only doesn't believe billionaires and millionaires shouldn't exist, but would actually legally take away their wealth and re-distribute it to the masses. A lot of people promote this. I don't know if they actually BELIEVE in it, but they certainly promote it. Sound like you prefer a Trump run government to a Mondavi or Bernie Sander run one. On that I'd disagree. I don't know too much about the Mondavi guy but Bernie Sanders is CONTROLLED OPPOSITION. His only job for the past 20 years or so has been to step into any election the Democrats seem to be winning and split the left-wing base allowing the more unified Republicans to win. There is no reason for anyone in the wealthiest nation in recorded history to go hungry, without no cost health care, no cost college, and low cost housing. Sure there's a reason. Infact there are SEVERAL reasons. Among them are: 1. Racism 2. Other forms of injustice 3. Hegelian Dialectic (causing a problem only to present the solution)

ProfD Exhibit A would most famously be Sally Hemings who bore 6 children to Founding Father and POTUS Thomas Jefferson. Did she have a choice? If not, how is this even debatable? Thomas Jefferson made Sally Hemings his concubine when she was 16 years old. That doesn't sound like a choice to me. Sounds kind of statutory. Let's look at it: Before there was a choice and White men were strictly in charge and ruled by force, the vast majority of interracial relationships were White men with Black women. After the 50s when society become more open and women were given a CHOICE of who they wanted, the vast majority of interracial relationships between Blacks and Whites were between Black men and White women. What does that tell you? Cynique You need to update. It's 2025. Like WHO??? You've already told us about the WHITE men you thought were handsome like Robert Redford and this Ohanian fellow Serena is shackled to. What BLACK celebrities do you think are handsome? Or do you think ANY of them are? And don't bring up some mixed up ass mulatto with green eyes and nearly straight hair calling HIM "Black". I mean a straight up BLACK man. Who said "kept" black women didn't like their white "sugar daddies"? Or "house" slaves didn't like being their massas' favorite bedmate? Is it their "sugar daddies" that they liked; or was it the fact that they were able to escape the sometimes hellish living and working conditions so many of the other slaves had face from day to day? "Kept" is a fitting term for their position under these men; as in KEPT HOSTAGE under the threat of abuse and death. Most of these GIRLS (you want to call women) were taken at an early age and forced into their roles as sex object by these devils. But if you want to make it sound all rosy and bright, like they were sitting around clothed tables with white lace gloves on sipping tea all day laughing and talking while being pampered by "massa"....go right ahead.

Maybe I'm mistaken but..... I thought White men were raping Black women and forcing them into other compromising positions for YEARS....CENTURIES....before Black men and White women started VOLUNTARILY having sex with eachother. How can the two even be compared? 200 years ago the ONLY time he could get a Black woman is by force because they simply didn't find him attractive enough. But today.....oh today...some of them are running around calling him an "angel" and talking about how "cute" he is....lol. Like I said, psychological warfare is real.

I have my doubts, but we'll just have to wait and see what happens. I didn't think Trump would voluntarily leave office back in 2021 and my thoughts were almost confirmed on Jan. 6! But somehow...it just shut down and stopped and the cycle continued on as usual. Infact, I thought Covid was going to shut things down in 2020 but the nation bounce back from that too. Clearly a Group or group or G/groups are controlling this world and keeping things from getting too far out of hand.

ProfD Women can consume themselves with all types of sh8t and d8mn near forget men exist. Old women...yes. Many old men can also forget about the opposite sex too if their testosterone levels drop too low and they have other issues they're dealing with. Age range varies. Most of their issues with men stem from how they were treated. How they were treated AND what they were taught to expect from men. What I mean by that is.... Much of what women in this society believe is "right" and "wrong" for men to do and what they expect from men isn't innate or instinctual. It's TAUGHT to them since childhood. They are CONDITIONED by society in general (schools, television, movies, other women, religion, etc...) about what to believe about men what what their roles are, instead of allowing nature to take it's course. If they did.....sex and strength would be the major factors. Even more so than money. Cynique Put a sock in it! It's YOUR "thang-thang"; why don't YOU put a sock in it...... Cuz I ain't TOUCHING it....lol. Serena and her handsome 6'5" millionaire husband. Handsome? See that's the issue right there. Too many of yall see any White man who isn't deformed.....as "handsome". Some of you think any random run-of-the-mill White man is good looking and all he has to do is just BE NICE to you and smile and you're in love. That man looks like a packet of mayonnaise with hair sprouting on top, but for some of yall...his Caucasian features ALONE makes him a "prize" worth appreciating. Who cares about his physique or how big his dick is or how good he is in bed. Just be a typical White man with some money and be nice enough to not call you a nigger (atleast when he's not angry)......and...hey. BTW.... When was the last time you heard White women talk about how handsome Denzel Washington or Idris Elba was? You know they do, but many of them TRAIN themselves to restrain from admitting to it publically.

Many of them are locked up for trying to exude control and dominance over another individual and take advantage of them in a small "petty" way. They have an evil mind just like some of the elite, but they just do it on a much smaller scale because they THINK on a much smaller scale. But they don't get credit for being dim witted or not smart enough to practice their evil and get away with it.....lol.

ProfD That's a belief men consistently get wrong when it comes to women. They don't need a man in order to be successful or happy. They don't need a man to live their lives. But in order to be happy, if she's heterosexual....she does. Unless she's post-menopausal. Then the men are ON PAUSE...lol. Notice that I wrote add to happiness. I always do that because humans don't need money or power in order to be happy. Happiness come from within the individual and emanates outward. And notice how I said Success = Happiness But Wealth doesn't always = Success. Success is simply getting what you want and desire in life. Whether that's money, good health, loving relationship, or all of these things. If you have what you want and desire....you WILL be happy. If you aren't Successful in your life, you WON'T be happy. The alphabet soup community might feel differently. They might still agree because I said MOST, lol. They are still a minority in this society. MOST women are still heterosexual and cis-gendered. They want that ROD...lol. I know quite a few women who are perfectly fine and content without a man. Don't wanna be bothered at all 1. How old are these women? 2. How do we KNOW they are fine and content and not just putting up a front but have to go to therapists every week to for counseling and or have drug and alcohol problems to deal with the loneliness? Like the old saying goes, Believe HALF of what you see and NONE of what you hear.

Some of the poorer and ignorant ones do want one. The wise and elites don't. Like Neely Fuller Jr. used to say, they are afraid of what THE CREATOR would do if they attempted to kill HIS Creation.