Pioneer1

richardmurray In my experience very few human beings allow themselves to ever be sacrificed. What about soldiers who sign up during times of war and offer their services and very lives for a nation or "cause"? You can look over to the Middle East where there's no shortage of young men willing to sacrifice themselves for their particular cause.

Human beings, but DIFFERENT TYPES of human beings. They are all genes, but DIFFERENT TYPES of genes that express themselves differently even in the same environment.

Oh no..... LOL. I should have known better.

ProfD A 35 year age difference between a man and woman makes that n8gglet old...enough to be her granddaddy Yeah....but he's not. If she had a 22 year old lover.....she could say that he's too close to his age and old enough to be her brother, not her lover. The comparisons don't stop. At the end of the day, it is what it is. 2 consenting adults. if a 57-year-old woman was bunned up with a 22-year old dude folks would be giving her the side-eye real heavy. Which would be quite natural because it's highly unusual for women of that age to prefer such a young man. It happens, but it's rare. That's THEIR choice....not society. Nobody is actually stopping women of that age FROM going after 22 year old men if they want them; most of them CHOOSE not to. This is what I mean about consenting adults having the freedom to choose what THEY want to do. We can make all kinds of judgments and have opinions about how people are paired up but at the end of the day, in America most of it is VOLUNTARY. The vast majority of people who are together are choosing to be together for their own personal reasons. I'd rather it to be this way than to have a society where relationships are "arranged". What makes a man with money a fool is tricking without a Non-Disclosure Agreement (NDA). He's better off paying an escort service. That wouldn't be bad at all. It would certainly be easier. However as I mentioned before, prostitution take some of the "fun" out of pulling a female by your own wit and charm...lol. Even if a man is using his money and cars and status to attract women, the idea of actually pulling out some money and PAYING for coochie is very off putting for most men because of what it implies. Those African women might think you're in a position to help them get a green card. Lol.... They may not be wrong, if the "right" one comes along. Better be glad we don't live in a society where you can have more than one wife....I'd start a "marry for a green card" business...lol. I believe the Universe heard all of the complaining I was doing about African women with White men and now the tide has changed. Within the past year I'd say about half the African women I know....even the married ones...have or are flirting with a Black American lover (myself included in that).

frankster What then are rights? Permissions granted by law because of your position in society. Yep....though a dreivers license is a privilege... And water is wet...lol....tell me something I don't know. A man can institute laws that say.....you are not a human being and proceed to treat you accordingly. His denial of your humanity does not make you non-human. Again, what does this have to do with you providing me with the list of inalienable rights? yet you still refuse to answer....your own question Because I didn't ask MYSELF the question, I asked YOU the question. And you have yet to answer it.

I was talking to somebody a few days ago about 9/11. They said they signed up to go to the military BECAUSE of 9/11. They were in their late 20s but when they saw those buildings get hit, they enlisted a week later. ..........and yes, they were White. But most of the people old enough to remember 9/11 that I talk to....like me...thought it was a movie when they first saw it on television. I remember coming out of the shower to get dressed and seeing the second plane hit and wondering what kind of movie this was. Katrina actually hit a little closer to home than 9/11 because I have so much family down in Louisiana and the aftermath of it was just sad.

I mean........... 😏 It's not like she doesn't know HOW to PM people. Trust me...lol....if ANYBODY should know how well she knows how to PM people.....I should....lol. But anyway, that's not the subject of this thread so I'll leave that one alone....lol.

Wait a minute............ Ain't that the movie where Jamie Foxx and some other bruthaz were walking around the locker room naked??? I bet you DID love that movie, didn't you....LOL

It took me years to finally see it but when I did I loved it: FENCES Denzel did an excellent job directing AND acting in that movie. Viola wasn't bad either. Straight up FBA culture. If you are a Black American, that movie HAS to hit you somewhere. I wish my Parents were still alive because I would have loved sitting in the living room watching that one with Them over and over again.

Seems to ME.... If you didn't want anybody else to participate in your little thread to ProfD, you would have just PM'd the brutha. Cuz that's what PRIVATE messages are for. But you didn't do that....did you Cynique? No. So.......

When you talk to old people who are close to death and ask them what their biggest regrets were, it's almost always something to do with letting "fear" stop them from doing something they wanted to do...whether it involved money, love, career move, etc....

Lol.... Is 57 really considered "old" now a days???? Compared to a 22 year old maybe, but....generally speaking??? I don't think the brutha is a fool for using is money and fame to get sex and female attention. I have a problem with him spending it on a WHITE woman. However other than that, it's what I would consider a business transation. She wants his money. He wants her. They get together and establish an understanding where both parties are satisfied. This shouldn't be illegal. This is the United States, not Iran or any other Theocracy where sexual activities are outlawed or severely restricted. I say let consenting adults do what they wish among eachother. Speaking of sex and age. I'm not far from 57 myself and I frequently get pushed up on by African women in their 30s and 40s at work and on the streets. Things are definitely changing from 10 years ago where it seemed like they didn't talk to Black American men. They rove around in PACKS now giggling and giving me and many other Black American men the "eye"...lol. Especially those of us over 40. It seems like regardless as to how they look, a lot of (perhaps even most) men under 30 don't seem to attract women much now a days.

Death isn't the enemy, it's a benefit. No matter how bad life is, imagine if there was NO death at all and you were stuck in that situation. Death is actually a TRANSITION to other Realities. But the fear most people have of it is natural. That Survival instinct was put in us for a reason.

Man, where has the time gone...... It seems like it was just YESTERDAY I was watching Mayor Nagin on CNN cussing out the reporters and accusing the government of bringing the dope into the hood on live television. I think that may be one of the reasons they went after him later on.

Mel Now here I was thinking this thread was dedicated to me personally, only to open it up and see a whole pack of OTHER names tagged in the OP...lol. Always a pleasure when you drop by and kick it with the fam, young lady. I'd come here to fight with @Pioneer1 - every time I do, I learn so much about myself, Maybe you learn more about yourself, but clearly you aren't learning much about ME or you wouldn't waste so much time arguing with me...lol. But hey.....lol....whatever it takes to get your attention.

richardmurray I don't know. That is the wisest plus honest answer to your question. I know you don't "know" for sure, but I ask do you BELIEVE this to be the case? That generally speaking they feel that they are supreme over and better than people of other colors and that this belief in superiority feeds their egos and helps maintain the system???? As an engineer, a system of supremacy isn't worth much when it allows the people who are supposed to be supreme to be harmed. They consider them "sacrifices". Indeed, a lot of Whites ALLOW themselves to be sacrificed to maintain that System. Maybe you have the same definition of white is me, maybe you don't. but in your statement I quoted, below some of whom you suggest are not white I suggest are "There are not only towns but ENTIRE REGIONS of the United States where it's almost all non-White Latinos and even a few nearly all Asian regions. They aren't White....but White folks haven't stopped THEM for grouping together and doing their thing." Notice how I said "non-White Latinos". If I make a statement like that, it clearly suggests that I do consider some Latinos to be White racially speaking or I wouldn't have made that differentiation.

The mistake I DO think a lot of Black Mayors and other politicians are making right now is publicly decrying Trump's move to put National Guards in cities to reduce crime. As I said, it's nothing more than a political stunt but the OPTICS of it serves many purposes. One of which....like you said...is to make White people in America feel safer. But another is to put a Black face on crime in America and make it look like it's Black people who are causing the crime and violence in the United State. Black politicians coming on and standing to a podium to voice opposition to it makes it look like they SUPPORT the crime and violence, when we know that's not the case. I've been noticing an uptick these past few weeks of images of Black people being attached to crime and violence in the media. It used to be all about Chicago....now they're focusing on Cincinnati, D.C. , Baltimore, Houston, and other areas. Every time a car is stolen....and a Black person did it....they have it on national headline news along with the face of the suspect. Adding to the propaganda. Black politicians need to find a way to reduce crime and increase the standard of living in their jurisdictions but meanwhile they need to find a way to make THEMSELVES look like the ones who reduce crime and get the criminals and thugs off the street; not racist White politicians. They need to be on the front lines of the media propaganda war to make THEMSELVES look like the law-n-order good guys.

I don't even think Russia is serious about THAT anymore either. If that's the case, why are they abandoning their so-called "allies"???? Iran Cuba Libya Syria All of these nations had agreements with Russia for some sort of protection but when the shit hit the fan, Russia stood on the sidelines. They may send in a few weapons from time to time but for the most part they have been giving little more than moral/oral support since the late 80s.

Troy Pioneer even a cursory knowledge of American history tells you that race in America was about ancestry. Not necessarily. Most AfroAmericans have Native American ancestry and many...from a genetic standpoint...have MORE Native American ancestry than African ancestry. However the fact that they have ANY African ancestry got them labeled as negro/colored/Black by default. The whole notion of passing wouldn’t even be necessary, but in this country passing as a thing because again it being black is not about what you look like You say "this nation" as if a handful of White men who run the nation and make the rules speak for and represent the thoughts and sentiments of everybody in it. For example, you say: The way you choose to group people is at odds with the way they were grouped in this country for most of its existence. While you are correct generally and for conversation's sake, you're really expressing the opinions of the White racists who ran this nation, not necessarily the total population. You're making THEM the end-all and be-all authority of who gets to define race in the United States. You're GIVING them the power to define your reality and challenging Black people like me who choose to do it for ourselves. The reality racism really is on its way out despite the media fixation on a relative handful of wing nuts You said he's on his way out.... But it looks to me like Racism is sitting in the living room playing dominos. ...and Donald Trump just pulled up a chair to join the game, lol.

richardmurray Well, you suggested a number of things to others I ponder to. First you suggest you believe, you are not certain, of the majority philosophy of whites in the usa. ....based on observation and history, yes. It's clear that most of them believe in upholding the system of Racism that benefits them. And that is fine, no one can know the future. If you are correct then your following stratagems hold wisdom BUT if your wrong, it can spell the greatest disaster for black folks in the usa at least. If I'm wrong, I'd have to be proven a such before even entertaining such thoughts. Second , I don't know what determines a white person is wise or elite Their position, wealth, and authority in this society. Elon Musk, Bill Gates, the Devos family.... These are among the wealthy White elite in the United States. Third, I am not certain any fiscally poor people are needed. You assume whites need blacks for their egos or leeching ways but I am not certain of that. Neither you nor I believe that White people are "supreme", however do you believe that White people support a "white supremist" system in which they THINK they are supreme over others? Fourth, when you say "usually coming from" what percentage ? in the Jim Crow era, by my assessment most financially wealthy whites were talking separation and whites only. Now you suggest that most fiscally wealthy whites lied about wanting blacks separated or away from them to sate fiscally poor whites. While I can't prove or disprove I can definitely say the argument can be made for or against that You can say that about 90% of what you see and hear in society...lol. Pioneer1 : "I think those two are in love." richardmurray: "Well I can't prover or disprove they are. An argument could actually be made for or against them being in love!" First, my knowledge of history is lacking, when have black people in opposing white terrorism in the usa won at the end of the day ? I don't recall. Seminole Wars Numerous confrontations by the Deacons of Defense Numerous confrontations by Black Panther Party Numerous skirmishes of the Nation of Islam with law enforcement. There's a quite a long list of BATTLES where Black people have fought back and won. The WAR is still waging obviously and Whites are still on top, but the individual battles do exist. For me white and light asians + latinos are white. I know you see them differently, but being white for me isn't about being european or speaking english. Who said that was how "I" defined Whiteness???? what do you mean by Actively Oppose? By active opposition I mean if when a White group aggresses against a Black group for unjust and racist reasons, that Black group immediately retaliates in an equally or greater aggressive way and defends themselves. A good example would be when the NYPD attacked a Nation of Islam Mosque in Harlem back in 1972 and got their asses handed to them and ran out of the building. Only to end up facing an angry mob of Black folks ready to riot out in the streets....lol. 1972 Harlem mosque incident - Wikipedia

I believe Trump...just like the Presidents before him....COULD drastically reduce crime if he wanted to but he won't. This is just for show. Kind of like the immigration raids. I see just as many Latinos running around today as I did last year. So WHO are they detaining? Where are these raids being conducted because they haven't hit West Michigan yet...lol. They don't want to reduce crime they want to CONTROL crime and violence and keep it contained in certain communities. Some people were outraged over the killing of that intern and of that Jewish couple a few months back and demanded something be done, so this is the response. Not a serious one but one for show. They NEED crime to keep the economy going....and growing.

ProfD All that you said pretty much supports my assertion that this thing is orchestrated. It's not a serious conflict between two serious enemies but more of a game, well rehearsed and acted out with the "little people" being sent to the front lines to die in it.

ProfD NATO is already involved. They're supplying Ukraine and making veiled threats against Russia. This is why I say this thing seems staged or orchestrated. If they were serious about actually winning they would have escalated things by now and brought them to a head. Even 2 invidiuals don't fight like that. If you and I are neighbors and end up beefing with eachother, we don't spend 5 years giving eachother flat tires. I flatten one of your, then you do the same....every month. Just poking holes in eachother's tires...nothing more....and waiting until the other one responds in kid. Then we buy a new set of tires and do the same thing over again.....for 5 years???? That doesn't sound like a serious beef between two men. That sounds more like some game.