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ProfD I believe heaven or h8ll are right here on earth. Not in the afterlife. This is very similar to what the Nation of Islam teaches According to that logic, nobody is free because everyone is subject to rules and laws. Correct. Nobody living in a society is actually free. You may be lumping atheists and agnostics together. No, I know the difference. Without going to Websters....an atheist definitely doesn't believe while an agnostic isn't sure one way or the other. However it's interesting that as an agnostic, that you believe that a spirit lives on after physical death. Do you also believe that that spirit is conscious? Being weak will get that azz run over but that doesn't make it *right*. It depends on your moral code. In nature, WEAKNESS itself is wrong. Weakness and sickness are evil. Strength and vitality are good. Animals aren't going to church or burning incense at altars.....they are living their lives based on their natures and reproducing one generation after the other based on the law of "the strong survive". It appears to be working for them to some degree. I'd be considered a bully if I ran around taking advantage of weak people. I'm not sure, but perhaps nature intended for the strong to take advantage of the weak in some ways...to weed out the weak. As you know, in the hood...being a strong and hard GANSTA is more respected and honored than being a book smart punk or sissy. Is that right? Is that wrong? Perhaps that we have gained the wrong understanding of what it means to be "good" or "bad" living under Caucasians and being influenced by THEIR ways of thinking.

I've noticed over the past 10 years or so not only is there a rise in Black female/ White male relationships.....but for the past year or so I've noticed that they have actually OVER TAKEN the Black male / White female relationships! Maybe I'm just noticing it more but it appears that now in 2024 in the public places I've been, there are MORE Sistaz running around with White dudes than Bruthaz running around with White women. This is a huge problem in my opinion for a number of reasons..........

Speaking of lazy and women........ Most of the younger women I talk to tell me about how their AMERICAN boyfriends ONLY want blow jobs, they don't want to have sex. I've concluded that most of this desire comes from straight LAZINESS. Many of these young dudes are too fat and lazy to put the work in to screw a woman, but laying on the couch or laying in the bed and getting sucked off is much easier. I stressed the word "American" because I tend to talk to women from ALL backgrounds including a lot of foreign women too. Most of the foreign women are married, so they don't have boyfriend but actual husbands. And they usually don't tell me what THEY are doing in bed...lol.

ProfD Death is freedom. No more pain and suffering. It depends on whether YOU believe in Hell or not. There are rules and laws that prevent people from doing whatever they want to do. Then they aren't free. ANY restriction cancels out the condition of true "freedom". You may have LIBERTY, but not freedom. Death is not form of unconsciousness. Supposedly, the spirit has been set free. I believe this. However as an agnostic, I didn't know YOU did. Internal turmoil and strife doesn't give the right to colonize a sovereign country. No, but being WEAK does. Internal turmoil, strife, and excessive division usually LEADS to a weakened and vulnerable state that makes one easier to be conquered. China was once a super power. Several dynasties. Plenty wars and conflicts within the country. Yet, they weren't colonized. China was colonized by the British. Great Britain and Ireland had conflicts. They weren't colonized. Britain colonized Ireland. That's what the conflicts were about...lol. That's a chance I'm willing to take. Self-defense can be proved especially if I'm in the right. True

The shit Trump was doing was well known as far back as 2015 and quite possibly 2014.

ALL laziness is mental....whether it manifests itself in a person's thinking or in their behavior. If a person physically doesn't have enough energy to perform, it's usually due to a medical condition called "lethargy"...lol. ...and having said that, almost all laziness comes from lack of proper motivation/stimulation. Take some of the laziest bruthaz you can find, and then put a sexy well built woman around in some booty short and watch them "come to life", lol. I walked into a Polo store the other day and a young fat brutha was just sitting there playing on his phone with his feet propped up on the counter. A polo store is NOT Foot Locker, that is NOT the type of place for such common and laid back behavior by employees...but he didn't seem to care. He did greet me....without looking at me..and let me wander around the store by myself. Naturally I didn't buy shit, but the reason I'm telling the story is because..... About 10 minutes after me and another man came in who received the same greeting, a group of young college aged girls....mostly White and Asian..in those sweat shirts, yoga pants, and yoga shorts...came bouncing and giggling in and I noticed how the nigga LEAPED up off the chair like he got stung by a bee...lol. He made sure to talk to every single one of them...and it was a group of 5 or 7 of them! They told him atleast twice that they were just looking and waiting on some movie to start but he didn't care. He asked them what they were looking for. Explained what was the hottest selling items. Just wouldn't let them go. I left the store and he was STILL following them around talking shit and grinning. He was MOTIVATED. It took him out of his laziness.

I support both the RIGHT to prostitute and the RIGHT to gold dig, as long as both parties are consenting adults. If I really loved a woman or was infatuated with her sexually and couldn't get her any other way EXCEPT with my wealth, I'd absolutely use it! And be GLAD that I had the wealth to use! Back in the day when I'd buy something and then later on kind of regretted that I spent so much money on it although I DID want it, a wise person would tell me to stop regretting and BE GLAD I actually HAD the money to spend!

ProfD I believe death is the end to all pain and suffering and ultimately our mortality. We're born to die. Ok, so according to that belief you DON'T believe death is "freedom" or "paradise". Freedom means no restrictions or limits. The ability to do what you want or will. Being totally unconscious doesn't allow for that in this Realm....because you have no wants or will. Cancer is still kicking azz and taking names. While you are correct, all slow deaths aren't Cancerous. Smoking cigarettes or even drinking could be considered "slow deaths" if you're suffering an illness because of them. That slow death will often give you an opportunity to STOP using those substances and change your lifestyle so that you may LIVE a much longer and healthier life. False equivalence. It doesn't matter how they were living before foreign oppressors showed up. Tell that to those of a lower status or prisoners of war from another tribe who may have been suffering UNTIL the White man showed up and put EVERYBODY under bondage....thus giving them a little relief, lol. Iran calls America the "great Satan". However I wonder how do many of the Iranian WOMEN....who are often thought of as oppressed in that nation....feel about America when THEY come here and enjoy fewer restrictions than they did in their home countries? Whether you talk about Africa or the Americas....we know that White folks wouldn't have been NEARLY as successful as they were in conquering Africans and Native Americans if they weren't already beefing and fighting with eachother for centuries before Caucasians even showed up on the scene. I'm not making any compromises when it comes to protecting my life and liberty. What if protecting your life COSTS you your liberty?

My position on homosexuality and bisexuality has evolved over the decades, especially as I've moved away from organized religion and Caucasian based ethics and morals. I realize that something can be abnormal yet natural at the same time.

ProfD We've covered this already. Neither POTUS Obama nor Biden could have had former POTUS Orange Julius prosecuted for the crimes he committed as a private citizen. Ofcourse it's not the PRESIDENT himself that prosecutes people but they do it through the Department of Justice and with their Attorney Generals. Obama could have done this. If POTUS Obama had committed crimes as a private citizen, it would have been on the state to make the case against him. Not the government. The state IS a government, but Trumps crimes...assisting foreign interference with an election and others...were FEDERAL crimes. Again, Obama could have used his Department of Justice to investigate and go after Trump. Private citizen or not....doesn't matter. Infact, because of the recent SCOTUS ruling....it would have been EASIER for him to go after Trump BEFORE he became President than now. It's not so much that Trump was above the law, it's that Democrats don't play like Republicans do. We saw this back with the 2000 election fiasco with Bush and Gore.

ProfD Sitting on the couch won't get us any less My issue with the "vote the couch" campaign is that it feeds the spirit of LAZINESS that many of our people are already afflicted with. Kind of like telling Black youth to forget about a 9 to 5...be YOUR OWN boss. It feeds a spirit of laziness and lack of discipline in those who are already predisposed to such. Many of our people voted "the couch" even when we have a clearly superior choice in candidates like Obama VS McCain or Romney. They didn't refrain from voting simply because they didn't think they would receive any tangibles. They refrained from voting because they didn't feel like going through the "trouble" of registering and then waiting in line to show up and vote. But despite my issues with it, I wouldn't change the fact that people are allowed to NOT vote if they wish. It's their right NOT to exercise their rights if they so choose.

ProfD It's a fools errand to believe someone else is going take care of them forever. Lol...there are a lot of fools of ALL races, in America. Troy No, I don’t think most Korean will come to the US are racist. You are shoehorning and American on Koreans for no good reason. Ok. So you don't think it. ((shrugs shoulders)) Lol... But I think the documented and historical friction between Koreans and AfroAmericans not just in ONE region but ALL OVER the United States from coast to coast is good enough reason to start forming conclusions around a pattern of relations. If Koreans are racist, why do you presume they would only be racist against Black people? Who said I did? Many of them don't like Latinos, Indians, or even other Asians. Also, there is a bias; people who choose to come to America from Korea probably have some very significant differences than the ones who choose to stay. "Probably" isn't definitely. You're arguing with hypotheticals. For example, if you choose to leave your home and culture behind boarding entirely different one, being racist would not be very helpful and surviving in a foreign country. It would be if racist Whites sponsored you and brought you over here to be allies with them AGAINST AfroAmericans. Infact, NOT being racist against AfroAmericans and treating us fairly would be to their detriment. Racist Whites would then see no reason to bring them over here and would leave them in their own country....lol.

You're never too young....or too old...to think correctly.

ProfD I was thinking the same thing. She just turned 60 and he's 90....so there is a 30 year age difference. Although he does look good for 90 Troy You're starting to sound a little like a CONSPIRACY THEORIST with those FEMA body bags...lol. Do you mean the death toll was around 2000 for Milton...or did you mean Helene? I haven't heard of much damage from Milton, but they're STILL finding bodies from the damage Helene did.

ProfD Death is freedom. Depending on one's beliefs, their rewards (enjoyment) are in heaven. As an agnostic...do YOU believe that? Yes. A slow death is more grueling than dying quickly. Perhaps. Yet depending on your state of mind and abilities, a slow death ALSO gives you some time to come up with a CURE to PREVENT your death and possibly even PREVAIL over your enemies and come out much stronger on the other side. That's because they are still be oppressed. If those people were free to thrive in their own countries, life would be paradise. Is that a fact....or speculation? The reason I ask is because BEFORE Caucasians came to their nations to oppress them...were they living in paradise? Or were they living under OTHER forms of oppression and being ruled over by tyrants of their own kind? We do not get to qualify *good* and *freedom* when it comes to how someone chooses to live. We can certainly have an opinion. Especially based on their EXPECTATIONS and RESULTS. If you're CLAIMING you do what you do to bring freedom to your people....but it only leads to more anguish and oppression, then I would have to question your beliefs and intelligence. Those are the considerations a coward chooses to make. They live accordingly. No right to complain about their station or condition Presuming that those choices are the choices of a coward (which I don't agree with)....... Is cowardice a "sin" in your opinion? And if so, by what right do you judge it so? You just said that people have a right to determine good and freedom by THEIR OWN standards. So if a man determines that not fighting and going along with the program is a "good" decision to make or even the BEST decision to make....based on his abilities...who are we to judge? Especially if we aren't coming to his rescue. There's a reason the US has the most powerful military on the planet. Yes....and that reason isn't because of "bravery" or the willingness to die. If those attributes were what determined the strength of a military.....those in the Middle East would be among the most powerful and wouldn't be getting picked off one by one. The U.S. military is the most powerful because it's the SMARTEST and most TECHNOLOGICALLY ADVANCED. I don't have the stats on this but it probably actually has a higher percentage of women and homosexuals than any other military on the planet also, but it still rules. Why? Because it's not so much about BALLS but about BRAINS. And again, my question is..... No doubt that our people are being oppressed in various forms. However, is the oppression that we as AfroAmericans have been going through SINCE AFTER 1865....really worse than death itself? Troy Lol..... Just when I think that you oppose my statements for the sake of being contrary and argumentative, you come along and change the game by agreeing with me. Actually, you articulated the point quite well that you MUST pick and choose your battles wisely. You talk of TWO times that you backed out of a fight as a kid, I can talk of NUMEROUS times....too many to remember...that I've backed out of conflicts as a kid in my neighborhood and at school. When I grew up, it was more than just having to deal with fist fights.....dudes had GATS....including AK's. You could "stand up" all you want but if you rubbed somebody the wrong way, they could get their boys on your or go home to their closet and cancel you out the next day. ....and that wasn't even the 'hood, lol. That didn't mean you had to be a punk or coward, but you had to use good sense and know WHEN and HOW to deal with each situation and who to just avoid. And yes, similar to you when I was VERY young....under 12 or 13...I would get angry at myself later on when I went home and ask myself why did I "punk out" like that. But as I got older and into highschool and started looking at the results of NOT punking out and answering EVERY challenge or potential conflict head-on....I realized how smart I had been about the situation. Especially as I look back at it today. A lot of the cats I knew who WEREN'T punks or pussies and NEVER backed down from a conflict or challenge are: 1. Dead. Because they ran into ANOTHER fool who wasn't a punk or pussy either and they cancelled eachother out. Bullets don't give a damn whether you're a punk or not. Bullets don't care how brave you are...they'll still "git witcha"..lol or 2. Locked up Unlike the streets...police and judges generally don't REWARD violent behavior. After you just popped somebody, don't expect the police to pat you on the back and congratulate you for not being a coward or punk. ProfD & Troy Every so often conflicts arise in your day to day life that you have to learn how to "handle" without being violent or confrontational. Especially if you're a Black man. You have to weigh your options. A few years ago I was standing on the street and some dirty bummy looking White dude came staggering up to me and said do you have a light? I don't smoke but I happen to keep a cigarette lighter on me and I let him use it. He looked at me and said, "Yeah...I thought so" with a slight disrespect in his eyes. Lit his cigarette while staring at me with some shiny blue eyes dancing in his head, then handed it back to me while purposely looking the other way in an obviously disrespectful manner. I could have flipped and said XY&Z and I could have actually flipped HIM. 20 or 30 years ago I probably WOULD have. But at that time, I just took back my lighter, looked at him like that fool that he was...and as he went HIS way...I went MINE. Didn't so much as think about it 10 minutes later. I drove away in my ride while he was probably homeless and staggard away to whatever hole he was staying in. Why would I get into an altercation with some poor white trashy FOOL who is probably looking for conflict in the hope that somebody may end his misery? As we get older...hopefully we get wiser.

Unless World War 3 breaks out first....lol

I heard you the first time....lol. I understand your point. One of the reasons so many of our people love the "one drop" rule is because a lot of our people want EVERYBODY to be "Black". They want to form some sort of connection and coalition with people, even if those people don't want to form a connection or coalition with them. It comes from low self esteem. When you think Latinos look better than the Black folks you grew up with, you come up with excuses to try to "include" them in your group. If you think Italians or Arabs are smarter than the Black folks you grew up with, you come up with excuses to try to "include" them with your people. You start digging into history and pointing out how much Black ancestry such-n-such has in them in hopes that they may see you as a "sister" or "brother" and hook up with you. I stopped doing that years ago. Although I acknowledge the Black ancestry of Latinos and that many Latinos indeed ARE Black just like many Arabs ARE Black and many if not most of them certainly have Black ancestry....I don't claim their ethnicity as the same as mine. I let them wander off and do their own thing. Power is EXCLUSIVE...not INCLUSIVE. If you really love who you are and are proud of your people....you don't go around trying to include everybody in that group. You start coming up with reasons and excuses NOT to include them...and then start looking at bonified members of that groups sideways and even come up with ways to justify kicking some of THEM out if they move kinda funny, lol.

ProfD Of course, people will accuse a Black political party of splitting the vote. Should we be overly concerned with what our "enemies" accuse us of? If your enemy doesn't oppose or slander your behavior...THAT'S when you really should be worried, lol. Politicians would have to come with tangible in order to get the vote Even more effective than that, WE PRODUCE THE POLITICIANS OURSELVES. We don't form a political party for the purposes of pleading our case to the CURRENT Democrat or Republican politicians with the hopes that they'll do something for us. Naw...we're beyond that. We produce OUR OWN politicians who will enact OUR OWN agenda from our Party's platform. They already know what time it is, so see don't have to plead any case to them. Former POTUS Orange Julius is the 1st indicted person who could end up back in the White House instead of prison. Unbelievable. And GUESS who you can thank for this? Obama and Biden Because BOTH of them were(are) in office during the time he committed the offenses and could have prosecuted him and kept him from running but instead decided to play politics and let him do his thing. If the shoe were on the other foot, do you think Trump would have hesitated to try to get Obama locked up????

@Chevdove Well..... Perhaps this may NOT come as a surprise to ProfD but it may come as one to you, but my concerns about Puffy's "freak off" parties are NOT over any homosexual behavior that may have taken place at them. ....although those accusations ARE quite disappointing, that an icon like Puffy would sponsor such "sissified" behavior. Infact.....I REALLY don't like that he changed his name to "P Diddy"...which sounds weird and weak. One of the reasons I continue to call him Puffy...lol However, I'd only oppose: 1. Any sexual activity involving underaged people 2. Any non-consensual sexual activities like rape or drugging people. Other than that, as long as it's between consenting adults...I have no problems with it socially. I may not PERSONALLY engage in or enjoy certain behaviors that he probably had at his party, but I'd allow it. Although I do believe that there IS an agenda by the Racists to promote homosexuality and other forms of "non-reproductive" sex on the AfroAmerican community in order to lower our birth-rate, I still believe that some people are born pre-disposed to be homosexual or bisexual. Until we can actually "cure" them, I have decided to accept that some people are simply that way.

@nels .....and I suppose you believe voting for a well known open racist like Donald Trump will make us look "smarter", huh????

ProfD If niggaz didn't "get it" last year....or the year before....I doubt that they'll "get it" before November.....lol. The older I get, the more I recognize PATTERNS among people. For the past 40 years or so....except for a brief moment in 2020.....many of our brothers have shown a PATTERN of complaining about their conditions but not being motivated enough to actually take corrective action and doing things that are effective in changing them for the better. For example..... They'll sit up and complain about being ignored politically and how they've been voting for the Democrats for so many years while getting nothing in return; but their "solution" to this problem is to DO NOTHING. Literally SIT ON THE COUCH. Or vote for Trump as if HE'D actually do something. When you tell them we need to form OUR OWN political party to push OUR OWN agenda....they'll agree. But when it's time to take action and have an actual meeting to discuss this, like the Last Poets said.....they'll tell you: "Ah nigga I was just jivin' You know I was bull shittin' How much you got on this hen-dog....let's roll to the store right quick"

This may be true. I'm just concerned about our brother anytime I don't hear from him for long periods of time. Even if he doesn't want to talk or hold a conversation, just letting the people know how he's doing would be satisfactory. Perhaps Mr.Bobby (aaaaalrighty....well...don't be a stranger) could give updates from time to time to let us know what's up.

They try to bring Africans and other Black people from the Diaspora onboard with their plan, but as much as THEY may agree to go along with it....it seems as if their CHILDREN and definitely the generations after that almost always end up hooking up with AfroAmerican culture. Even down to the fighting of and anger over racism and perceived slights. This is one of the reasons I don't care too much for Tariq Nasheed and many others going hard against the Africans and Caribbeans as much as he does. He correctly criticizes them in a lot of the fuck-shit they do, but it seems as if he's targeting and focusing on them far more than he does the Arabs or Latinos or Asians....who pose a MUCH bigger threat to our community.

I find it interesting how Black Republicans and Black Trump supporters have not only DEMONIZED the word "Liberal" and "Progressive" but now almost always equate it with being White. You almost NEVER hear them criticizing White Conservatives....especially calling them out for their racism. I was in the mall not too long ago and two Black kids in their early teens were arguing and calling each other names, and one of them kept calling the other one "you liberal"..."with yo' liberal ass". We can pretty much GUESS who his Parent(s) support in this election....lol. Man, these devils have done a number on so many of our people.

As I've gotten older, I'm beginning to wonder if that wasn't a SMART move after all. First of all I think it's HIGHLY possible that AfroAmericans could actually win a war against our oppressors, for reasons I won't get into. However, for the sake of discussion....let's say that hypothetically the ONLY options are oppression OR fighting back and losing. Just for discussion's sake. If you think about it........... 1. What good is "freedom" if you're dead and not around to enjoy it? 2. Yes, life under oppression COULD be worse than death....but in the United States after 1865....was and is life for AfroAmericans (drugs, lynchings, AIDS, and other forms of oppression) really WORSE than being killed outright? A lot of Black folks have it much worse in other parts of the planet. 3. Look at the Arabs and how many of them are willing to kill and die for what they believe. Yet what good is it doing them? And they are MORE numerous than the Israelis and other Westerners over in their land fighting them, yet it APPEARS (since I'm not over there I don't know what's REALLY going on) that they are losing in big numbers, currently. Just being brave and fighting and putting your life on the line for the sake of doing so or for some intangible (frankster...lol) virtue like "honor", how much is it really worth? I can see fighting if: 1. You have a reasonable and good chance of winning or 2. You face annihilation if you DON'T fight back But does scenario apply to Black America?