Pioneer1

We invented a whole lot of things....before we integrated into White schools.

I don't know who rolls with who and I don't rub elbows with the rich and famous, I simply speak on MY experiences and MY observations in real life. ....that way I rarely go wrong.

Troy Allow me @frankster;, @Pioneer1 colors, rainbows and grief are not NOT tangible. Ohhh...so NOW you want to involve yourself in the debates??? In the other thread where frankster is defending the Bible and claiming it doesn't support slavery when it clearly does...you're as quiet as a church mouse peeing on a cotton ball. ...but NOW, you want to "chime in". Well mah brutha.....lol...if that's the case then you can get the SAME WORK I've been giving him! For starters, as I've shown already....."tangible" doesn't have only ONE definition but MULTIPLE definitions. Merriam-Webster Dictionary definition: Cambridge Dictionary Definition: So not only can a rainbow or anything else that is REAL and can be SEEN -be tangible, but if you really want to take it there...even CONCEPTS like fear....if clearly conceptualized...can also be tangible depending on which of the MUTIPLE definitions one is using for that word. I've explained this umpteen times and even provided the definitions, but for some reason he (and apparently you) aren't fond of reading the sources I provide. Get it now? I BEEN had it...now YOU need to get it...lol. Infact, you need to hurry up and MOVE IT.....out of Florida before MILTON comes this week. ...or you'll FIND OUT how strong of a grip "fear" can have on you and how TANGIBLE can be! Don't play around with Mother Nature.

Mel You already KNOW most Black Americans are mixed and not only come from various African tribes/ethnicities but also various tribes and ethnicities within the Caucasian and Native American races we are admixed with. But I hear what you're saying about learning more about your ancestral heritage. The good part of it is you can learn more about your DNA and genetic coding to determine which foods, medicines, and other products are best for you to consume. I'd advocate for Black people to learn more digital technology if we will use it mostly to cure diseases like HIV and Ebola and Diabetes and other ills that affect many Black communities; but if they're going to use it just to make more "Trap music".....forget it. We don't need more videos of skinny bruthaz in dread locks peeing on and desecrating the graves of their recently murdered "op".

ProfD That's one aspect of technological advancement. There are many examples of how technology improves the quality of life. It still has cured any diseases. So in other words... According to many people "improving one's quality of life" doesn't necessarily equate to CURING DISEASES but rather making them MORE COMFORTABLE with those diseases? Kind of like how some people with Cancer or whose loved ones suffer from Cancer will spend more time gossiping on social media (more advanced technology) than they do actually researching and seeking a cure for their deadly disease. It shows you where THEIR priorities are. No money in solving problems. Actually....it depends. What billionaire in a wheelchair wouldn't give atleast HALF of his fortune for the ability to easily walk again? How many young otherwise healthy men with erectile dysfunction wouldn't give half of THEIR money to be able to get hard and stay hard when they want? My 94-year old grandmother cares more about leaving her money in the bank than anything else. She's reluctant to spend it on her real needs. I can believe that. Because she's old enough to know the importances of SAVING money and not wasting it on frivolous things. And I would say..... if she's 94 years old and still alive and can choose what she does with her money, her "real needs" are probably BEING taken care of already...lol. Surely, if someone is smart enough to use AI or any other technology to cure themselves, I'd imagine they will do it. Fact. But what about those who AREN'T smart enough....but need a cure? People go to hospitals and doctors with the expectation that they will be treated...and in the U.S. they expect the best care humanity has to offer. Why should they be disappointed? Rhetorical question btw... Artificial limbs aren't generated as in grown. Prosthetics are manufactured kinda like robots. Remains to be seen if AI can figure out how certain animals can actually regrow an appendage and translate it to humans. Then, how long would it take. I thought this was already being done. They are already growing human organs in laboratories. That's what the entire "stem cell" thing was about. As far as growing appendages on animals..... Lol....you didn't forget about the mice with human ears growing on them, did you? My point is....they already have the technology to do most of what we're talking about....but STILL aren't using it to help and heal most people. So why should we expect the use of AI to be any different? It's not so much the TECHNOLOGY that's the issue....it's the PEOPLE in control of it and their mentality that's the problem and who are retarding progress for humanity. Mel Good.... So Generative AI can preserve MORE languages for Africans to choose from when they want to get together and talk about Black American "akatas". As soon as I learn Swahili....the Africans at work start switching it up on me and talking in South Sudanese languages so I don't understand what they're saying about us....lol.

Mel We humans are using Generative AI to create software applications that help us excel at solving complex problems. Now you may have just opened the door for me to point out to Troy a perfect example of what I'm talking about..... You say Generative AI is being used to create software applications........ok...to help us excel at solving COMPLEX PROBLEMS. Can you give me 2 examples of this? Meaning, what 2 complex problems that humanity...especially Black humanity...face that AI is sincerely being used to solve? I'll wait...lol....but not TOO long. I got some gravy to make and some catfish to fry....lol

I dig what you're saying...... However, I'd take Frankie D over EITHER of the candidates running for office right now. The Black middle class as we know it today (or as we HAD KNOWN IT from the 60s to the early 90s) was built by the policies of Franklin Roosevelt and his anti-poverty programs. I gotta give him....and especially his wife....credit for that.

ProfD I have to go back to personal experience, observation, and anecdotal evidence....... You say you've known plenty of Black men who've gone to those places and haven't had any problems. I don't know too many Black men personally who have went to those places period, especially for the purposes of banging women. I know I haven't. Most of the Black American men I know who travel abroad like that are married, sexually stable, and tend to go to these places on business for vacation WITH their wives. Now I've seen a lot of them on the INTERNET who've talked about their travels to those place, but again...very few personally. That being the case, I can't really argue your point. I do know that I used to go to Canada and still do from time to time and a large percentage of the women THERE of all races seem to like Black American men. Although it started changing in the past 15 years or so and they don't seem to chase bruthaz around AS much as they did back in the 80s and 90s. I base most of my comments....not on my personal experiences in these regions...but based on the PEOPLE I've met here in America who hail from these regions.

ProfD Yep. If circumstance or situation can be traced back to an event. Smoking kills folks. We don't try to figure out which cigarette did it or whether it was 1st or 2nd hand smoke Then if THAT'S the case.... We might have to blame EVERYTHING bad that happens on this planet on YAKUB...lol. Everything White folks are responsible for..... Cigarettes Liquor Weapons Even the bad weather....from White folks who affect the climate with their technology. Trace it all back to it's source....lol. Mel I would've thought it was AI if I hadn't seen it on our local news. Well I'm hearing conflicting reports about it. Some say they have it under control and the fire is out, others say that the shelter in place order has been extended until next week. ....but just as long as my sista is relatively safe and doing well. Hopefully Troy will take your advice and either prepare or just move himself and his little girl to a safe spot this week. * Now this is a time when you actually NEED a White man at your house , to make some gas masks and fortify the home so that toxic air won't seep in. Also to make those little ham-radios to communicate with the outside world while yall are sheltered in place. ...they're good for shit like that...lol.

Perhaps..... However the more I talk to people who've been to those places and the more I interact with people from those areas and similar regions, the more I believe that as Black American men.....unless you're doing something outrageously perverse....doing your thang inside the borders of the U.S. is still your best bet. Brazil and Thailand are good for WHITE MEN with money. THEY can get away with a lot. When it comes to BLACK MEN with money, your MONEY is much welcomed and appreciated but YOU often times are NOT. Many times....especially in Asia....your race outweighs your cash. So many of the people...both in government as well as private citizens are so hateful and resentful of some "nigger" coming into their country screwing their women and flaunting his wealth over them. Infact, when it comes to many of these people....they hate a RICH Black man way more than they hate a BROKE one. People from some of these other countries will TOLERATE a rich Black American only for so long before his picture ends up on the news....sharing a split screen with the other half showing police taping off a hotel while a crowd of little 5 foot tall people stand around in flip-flops with their arms folded grinning and chattering about who got to the brutha first and what they did with his body. Everybody in the community was probably "in" on it. Sometimes it's best to stay in the U.S.A.

I understand, however at some point we must decipher the REASONABLE from the UNREASONABLE when tallying the death count of any disaster. Most of the deaths in New Orleans...in my opinion...shouldn't be attributed to Katrina although they wouldn't have occurred if Katrina hadn't occurred. Only deaths from the immediate and near immediate impact of the storm should be. I had a couple of cousins down in Mississippi who committed suicide (actually murder suicide) as a result of living in one of those FEMA trailers over an extended period of time, but the reason they were in the trailer was because of Katrina. This took place MONTHS after Katrina....but their deaths were an INdirect result of the storm. So should THEIR deaths be counted in the Katrina count also?

ProfD Yeah, I think you nailed it again. Sometimes I forget not to measure people by MY standards. Especially when it comes to so-called fun, what's important in Life, and the importance of playing it safe. I've mentioned many times that I don't smoke weed because it doesn't have a euphoric effect on me. So if I got $10 Billion next week, not a penny of it would go towards the purchase of weed. Unless it's to build a bunch of Marijuana farms to start a business or something....lol. I have MY idea of fun what I'd spend money on, but others have their own. But I hear (read...lol) you when you say that safe is considered "boring" to some people. To me, safe isn't boring but INTELLIGENT. I know a couple of women who are married and love to cheat. They say it's "fun". It's not the sex but the fact that they are cheating on their husbands and think they're getting away with it that's fun to them. If you have all of this money, why would you give your enemies an opportunity to take it away from you by doing illegal shit? I probably WOULD have sex parties though. But it wouldn't be like Puffy's Freak-Off parties. -No minors -No illegal drugs -The females would dramatically out number the males. -And I'd actually have quite a few older and old women in them...lol. And as I mentioned before, I'd be paying off key White people who have the power and authority to actually protect me from prosecution or public disgrace.

Man....you don't "sign up" or "agree" to be a slave. That's not how slavery works in ANY society. It's like someone saying they're "happy" to be miserable. If they ass is walking around grinning and happy in their condition....they clearly aren't in a state of misery. If you agree to it or volunteer to do it....it isn't slavery; it's servitude. Slavery is strictly by FORCE/ COERCION.

frankster ...color is intangible - but visible You just contradicted yourself based on the definition of "tangible". You said color is "intangible" but still "visible". You obviously don't UNDERSTAND the definition you just read, or simply don't accept it. My problem is that neirher you or I and most people cannot discern color be touch..... Nah, that ain't YOUR problem....you got ANOTHER problem...lol. It's called COMPREHENSION You clearly have a hard time understanding what you read. So the question is could you tell the color of a penis thats not your own by touch? I'm not sure. Why don't YOU try it first and then tell me....lol.

ProfD great questions. We don't know what *good* AI will do. We have a pretty good idea, based on what this society has done with the previous "latest" technology being touted. Social media. Facial recognition. What "good" has these so-called "advancements" done society besides help law enforcement entrap and incarcerate more people? AI is a tool that could potentially be used to solve problems and improve quality of life. Absolutely. "could" is the key word in your statement. Most folks will use AI to produce goods and services faster in order to make money. Correct. As I mentioned before, this is going to be one of the primary things it's used for. Not to actually solve DIRECT problems facing humanity, but to simply stuff more pockets that are already full. Some of these people who are already rich and are set to get richer probably NEED far more things than just more money. Think of the average 80 year old and what she/he may need. Simply more money isn't going to solve ALL of their problems. Industries will use AI to reduce costs which means eliminating people from the workforce Pretty much. Troy Potentially. Even if it did the cured would be saved for the super wealthy, while the rest of us pay for chemo, as Prof implied. Well, what would stop us as INDIVIDUALS who are medically inclined from using AI to cure ourselves even if the medical establishment as a whole doesn't? Maybe. It will certainly help in the creation of superior artificial limbs. I'm not sure if I'd use the word "create" but I thought the ability to GENERATE artificial limbs already existed. What?! Let's not go off the deep end. Lol... Didn't you praise some video a few weeks ago featuring a White man talking about such things? If a White man in a tie talks about it, your eyes start gleaming and you consider it profound cutting edge research. Now all of a sudden when I suggest that it could be done, you're calling it the "deep end"....lol. Now if this is the tech I have access to, who know what this tech is capable of. Well let me ask you..... If you have access to it, which of the above necessities that I mentioned.....if any...would YOU use AI to fulfill? Or what would YOU use AI technology for if you were given free range to the most advanced forms of it?

Well, remember that the vast majority of Katrina's death toll was NOT from the actual Hurricane itself but from the flooding in New Orleans. Katrina didn't hit New Orleans, it hit the coast near central Mississippi. Those levees being destroyed and the city flooding out is what added to the high death rate Helene's death toll so far is from her DIRECTLY. ...and they're still finding and counting missing bodies over a week later.

A lot of older Black people liked him.....especially compared with Ronald Reagan. I was just a kid and not very interested in politics when he was in office so don't know much about him or his administration. My favorite U.S. President so far would be Franklin D. Roosevelt....based on the little I know of him. ....yes, even over Abraham Lincoln....my second favorite.....so far.

Since you're willing to help, then help YOURSELF by accepting the first definition of tangible being that which is REAL and not imaginary. ...then apply THAT definition to a penis OR a rainbow (your choice...lol) since both of those objects are real and not made up.

Troy Glad to see that you're upward and mobile and doing well, lol. It seems as if the storm when NORTH of the area you lived in and it the pan-handle area of Florida and traveled through eastern Georgia on up the coast. North Carolina is still reeling from it's effects. Hundreds are still missing. This storm may actually turn out to be more deadly than Katrina Mel Yeah, I heard about that fire down there and saw clips of smoke billowing and authorities issuing all kinds of "stay in place" alerts....lol. Looked like something out of a Zombie Apocalypes movie...lol.

Ok..... So has AI come up with a cure for all types of cancer? Is it growing new legs and arms for people who've lost them in accidents? Does AI allow people to contact dead loved ones and communicate with them? Does it reverse aging and the affects of aging in humans? Like most forms of social media today, what "good" is it actually doing humanity....besides making it easier and quicker to spread FALSE or IRRELEVANT information around? This isn't aimed at YOU Troy, but I say this in general. Our people need to stop thinking or trying to think like White folks in terms of getting geeked up and hyped up over shit that isn't helping US solve OUR problems. If properly used it can help us make more money...either as a tool or through selling it's technology. I get that part. However what we need is not simply more artificial intelligence but ACTUAL KNOWLEDGE that will help heal our communities around the planet.

Yes. Thank you for helping me to make MY point...lol. Since you understand this, why is it so hard for you to understand that "able to be shown" qualifies a thing to be considered TANGIBLE? You don't have to actually touch it...if you're able to SEE it...then it's also considered tangible. Actually.....the definition before it qualifies ANYTHING that is real and not imaginary as tangible.

frankster The reason its not adding up is because your definition of Enslavement is tied to European Enslavement of Africans. There is only one universal definition of enslavement and it cuts across cultures from Africa to Europe...and that's FORCING people to work. If you "own" people and are forcing them to work, you have enslaved them; plain and simple. If they have a choice and can opt out....they aren't slaves, but mere servants. But the Bible makes a CLEAR difference between slaves and servants and as I said not only condones but SUPPORTS the enslavement of certain peoples. As far as the other points you're TRYING to make; it seems as if you're trying to take me around in circles. I've already showed you with crystal clarity the verses in the Bible that legitimized slavery, supported it, and made it clear that in some cases...the people and their progeny were intended to be enslaved forever. All the other verses you provide talking about 50 years THIS and 7 years THAT are irrelevant -UNLESS you want to admit that there is a contradiction in your book.

I have to wonder.....why DID he (Didd-y...lol) throw those wild ass parties? I'm not a celebrity nor a multi-millionaire, so I'm not sure what goes on in the minds of people like that or what their obligations are; however is seems to me that if you have...say over $10 Million......your crazy days should be over. Time to be serious, stay as FAR away from trouble and legal problems as you possibly can and just play it safe. Why engage in drugs, environments where people can be sexually assaulted and sue you, and other behaviors that could jeopardize you losing your wealth and freedom? Why???

Man you better cut that "snatch" shit out.....I get horny just reading it now, lol. Make me think of all those years even back in highschool when I could have just.....ahhh....never mind, lol. Seriously, why haven't we heard from our brother since the Hurricane though???? ...and our sista @Mel Hopkins too! She lives down in the ATL, right there in the path of it. If North Carolina is getting socked up like that....imagine what's happening in Georgia.

I was watching a video of Puffy promoting a movement to push a Black Agenda and for Black Americans to become more politically educated. That could also be the reason they're coming after him. Another issue is what Puffy represents. He represents flashy arrogant Black success. This rubs a lot of people the wrong way....especially in a society where you're taught that the "Christian" thing to do is be humble and modest. Like 50 Cent said... When they say you're too flashy.....it means they like you better when you're fucked up and ashy.