Pioneer1

Ah girl, you give up too easy....lol....I was getting ready to tell you.

I was discussing this with another groups of bruthaz last night. He was only 21. That's too young to be a truck driver rolling all over the country anyway. Most Black people don't choose a rope around their neck as a form of suicide. That's way down near the bottom of the list of ways most Black people would consider to off themselves, right above drinking animal poison.

ProfD I have to really wonder, are they really "on code" or is that their nature anyway? In other words...... Are White women secretly TAUGHT and TRAINED to be so publicly submissive and docile to their men? Or is it in the nature of most of them to be like that and we see it so much that we PRESUME they must have been taught to act like that because we can't believe women would naturally be so passive and docile to their men, especially as compared to how our sistaz are to us, lol. I go to places and sit down and just STUDY people from time to time....of all races. There are similarities but there are also strong differences in behavior. It's not imaginary...there is definitely a pattern of differences that I see between women of different races.

ProfD I'd imagine having a conversation with NF Jr. would be similar to that brotha in Detroit. Not even close...lol. Atleast Mr.Fuller does elaborate and go into detail when you ask him questions. He likes to give examples and illustrations and knows how to keep up the conversation and ask questions. Especially when he's doing a radio show and know the listeners don't want to hear a bunch of silence. But this particular brutha wouldn't bother with all of that. You ask him about the Moors in Spain and he'll give you the dates they occupied Spain. Then abruptly stop talking and look at you, playing with some candy in his mouth (he wasn't gay though...lol). If you didn't know him, you'd think you must have said something wrong or pissed him off. He would ONLY answer your questions. The only other time he'd talk was if he was ordering some coffee or tea from the establishment. This was before everybody was running around with cell phones. He'd thumb through a few magazines and books, but would mostly sit there looking ahead either answering somebody's question or waiting on one. That brutha was a trip....lol

.....but is you SERIOUSLY SERIOUS with that question??? Cynique, you SERIOUSLY want me to answer what a "white latino" is for you????

ProfD In fairness, they do call out the fact that FBAs cannot rely on an alliance with other Black (Tethers) or Brown (Latinos) folks. They get equal amounts of smoke. They are correct, but they tell only HALF the story. One half of the story is that most immigrants come to the U.S. with the pre-conceived and pre-judicial negative views of AfroAmericans that were given to them by White folks back in their home countries. The OTHER half of the story is when they come to the United States, many of those negative views are CONFIRMED by the ratchet and thuggish behavior of LaKeisha and Jermaine in the school, on the block, and at work...lol. I know you have a certain affinity for other Black and Brown folks when it comes to their women providing tangible benefits in the form of happy endings. MAN YOU BETTER BE QUIET....lol Don't let that clog your ears or cloud your eyes of judgement Well..... I don't see anything wrong with a little bump-n BUSINESS AGREEMENT where we exchange benefits with eachother! If you want citizenship and access to resources in my country....what do YOU have to offer me in return? Do you have land back home? Access to gold, diamonds, and other materials? What do you have to offer in exchange for OUR resources?

Are you serious????

richardmurray The similarity between your statement and Kanye's..... "I think both of you reveal your inner thinking when either of your leanest definitions of a slave don't include , until they make themselves free. " "For 400 years? That sounds like a choice to me!" ....both suggest that it was the slave's responsibility to FIGHT BACK and FREE HIMSELF instead of tolerating it. That's why I said you sound a little like Yeezy...lol. ProfD Setting oneself free i.e. escaping slavery by any means necessary is definitely an option even if it means killing folks. I'm all for it I've often fantasized about if I were on the slave plantation...how I'd kill the entire slaveholding family thinking that I'd free myself and my people. What I didn't consider was that White Slave owners also considered those possibilities and often set up protocols designed for situations such as that...which often arose. There were MANY slave rebellions and revolts in the South, but it took an actual WAR to end it.

ProfD Actually, there is a limit to all things in excess. That's why you preserve it and pass it along to the future. More money = more problems. More money + IGNORANCE often = More problems. If you have knowledge and good sense, then you use your money to help SOLVE your problems instead of making more. More money may have made more problems for Puff Daddy...chasing women down hotel hallways and whooping their asses in his white robe...but they certainly haven't for Elon Musk and the boys. When folks come down with a terminal illness or have a serious accident, they realize what's most important. It's not how much money they have in the bank or their material possessions. The most important thing is....time. Whether it is spent doing certain things or spent with family and friends, time is more valuable than anything else we can possess or consume. Ask a suicidal man who WANTS to die...right before he commits...how much HE values time. He'd wipe the tears from his eyes and tell you he'd wished his time on this planet had ended long before he was faced with having to make that decision. But you're point is understood. Time is one of the more important things because it's one of those things you can't make back up once it's gone. However I believe KNOWLEDGE and the PROPER APPLICATION of that knowledge is even more important than time. What good is a lot of time if you're dumb as hell and don't know what to do with it? Like having a lot of money, and don't know what to do with it. There is an old saying that YOUTH (time) is wasted on the young (ignorant). Some people have plenty of time and energy...but don't know what the hell to do with it. Passing down wealth to future generations is a great idea. Some folks don't have heirs to whom they can leave their wealth. Where does it go? To the state. ...probably into somebody's "rainy day" fund, lol. There's only a handful of billionaires on the planet relative to the global population. Currently, the richest person on the Earth is worth $219 billion. That's less than a quarter of a trillion dollars. It is impossible for any person to become a trillionaire under any circumstance. That's a pretty pessimistic view of wealth generation, lol. Whatever it took for a person to become a billionaire...will get them to trillionaire status if they follow that same path with enough time available. They didn't have any billionaires 100 years ago. Perhaps they thought THAT was a pipe dream that could never be achieved as well. Infact, they only had a few millionaires. Give it time.

You sound a little like Kanye when he said a few years ago (or was it last year???) that 400 years of Slavery was a CHOICE.

I'll take it a step further and say that they are trying to focus us on the BLACK IMMIGRANTS so that we'll ignore all of these illegal Latino immigrants who have flooded the nation by the millions with no signs of slowing down. I just saw an article today where Trump is promising to deport ALL OF THE HAITIANS in that small Ohio town. He never made that promise on the Latinos, but wants to target the Haitians. I have no doubt that if that racist clown gets back in office he'll try his best to fullfill his promise to deport the Haitians...while leaving the White and Brown immigrants alone That's why it's hard to ride with Tariq and some of my other brothers over this Black immigrant bashing that's going on lately. They want to clown on and bash African and Caribbean immigrants and call them tethers and many of them NEED to be checked...but still...where is this same energy for the Latino and Asian immigrants who are far more racist?

ProfD Well, we can be polite and keep the conversation going by offering our opinions and judgements and beliefs about certain things. If we ONLY talked about what we ABSOLUTELY KNEW for sure, the planet would be mighty quiet...lol. Forget about singing and rapping and poetry....lol. I knew a brutha like that back in Detroit. He would ONLY talk about what he absolutely knew and experienced and would only tell you what he believed to be the FACTS You can only imagine what it was like having a conversation....or TRYING to have one with him...lol. He used to chill in a particular establishment a lot of us in the Black Consciousness community would frequent to drop science and get up on things. He'd be sitting in there at a table sometimes with others and sometimes by himself looking ahead waiting on somebody to say something to him. He didn't even say "good morning" because he wasn't sure if it was good or not that day, lol. If you ask him something....he'd answer....but that was it, LOL. He'd just sit up there with his two legs together and some peppermint candy in his mouth, looking at you. He'd barely blink and he'd just look at you sucking on a piece of candy in his mouth, waiting on you to say something else....or leave. After a minute of that....you'd have to either walk away or bust out laughing at the situation...LOL. Anyway....... When it comes to science and education, that's when we have to be extra careful and particular...in my opinion. Math and language is one thing....although language is often tricky too. But ALL of the history we got from Caucasians need to be re-examined and sourced.

I'm not sure what to say.

There is no such thing as "enough benefits"...lol. That's like saying a person is healthy enough, or has enough money, or is beautiful enough. There's no limit to the value of certain benefits like health and wealth. Like Puff Daddy said.... "what you can't have now, leave in your will. But don't knock me....for trying to bury....seven zeros (tens of millions of dollars) down in Rio De Janeiry" LOL If you can't enjoy and use all of the wealth you have, you leave it to your children, and grand children, and so on and so forth. Yesssss.... The Pioneer would make sure his family lineage is secure for 15 generations! My great great GREAT GREAT grandkids would be walking down the stairs of their mansion and see a picture of ME on the wall staring down at them. And they'd have to just smile and say "thank you"....lol. If I were in Congress I definitely would look out for FBA and our concerns as a community and secure tangible benefits and resources for us however I'd also be striving to be the first Black TRILLIONAIRE in Congress too.

Getting paid and trying to secure some tangible benefits for yourself and your family ARE good intentions as far as I'm concerned. What makes them bad is when you lie and harm people to secure them doing so, which many if not most politicians do.

frankster Diet and Climate has a lot to do with phenotype Not when it comes to race based phenotypes like skin color, hair texture, hair color, and nose shape. Please explain relevance..... "Just like a penis is tangible...dark brown skin is also tangible." ?? A penis and skin are TANGIBLE objects that can not only be seen but felt ( ). So they're not mere "social constructs" but biological facts. Nature is all..... yet still there is much Variety and Diversity I know you BELIEVE that Nature is all. My question for you is/was when you said, "forces with in Nature and in the Human Mind Body and Spirit....and how they can and do interact." This seems to infer that you saw the forces within the Human Mind, Body, and Spirit as DIFFERENT than the forces within Nature. Perhaps I misunderstood your statement, though.

Another White Latino fucking with our people. This is my question....... I know Miami is pretty much ran by Cubans, but where were the BLACK cops?? I didn't watch the video and don't plan on it. It's sad what they did to the brutha but.....it's to the point that if I can't do anything about it besides spit at the screen and cuss...I'm better off not even watching it. But in the brief clips I've seen of the incident, all I saw was a bunch of White officers around with him spread out on the ground; where were the Black cops? You got plenty of Black folks down in Miami whether they're FBA, Haitian, Jamaican, etc...so where were THEY during all of this and what were THEY doing?

Because my Mama's baby can READ....lol.

I'll keep it even more simple. A slave is someone who has no choice and must serve (or as the U.S. constitution put it "involuntary servitude") their master until or unless they are set free.

If you weren't around to witness it for yourself...you DON'T actually "know" that it's true. You can infer and come to different conclusions based on the evidence you see and what other people who MAY have witnessed it, tell you. But when you're talking about historical events and monuments past....say 100 years....how do you KNOW for 100% ABSOLUTE FACT that it happened the way you read about or on the date given? The U.S. Civil War happened less than 200 years ago and historians are STILL coming out with new books every other year about it with "new" details emerging about this or that. Ofcourse the modern academic system TRAINS a lot of our people, not to think for themselves and question what they're being told...but to simply pay attention to the information they've being given and regurgitate it back during tests and examinations. Whoever can spit the "official narrative" back most accurately is the one who gets the highest grades and graduates with honors.

They also go through marital and relationship problems at a much higher rate, but their women still give them chance after chance. When was the last time you heard White women getting on television or the internet bashing White men because of their infidelity, marrying Asian women, or being caught messing with children?

Well, I guess it depends on how one defines slavery. I had this discussion with a Cuban dude at work a few weeks ago and it carried on for 3 days....lol. We couldn't agree on the exact definition of what a slave is. Is it somebody who is forced to work for FREE. Or is it somebody who is forced to work PERIOD whether they're getting paid or not? And how far does it go? You may not be FORCED to work for another, but if you a threatened with jail time or have no other employers available...is it much of a choice? Prison Labor, as it's practiced in the United States today...is a form of slavery. They used to force the inmates to work for free, but so many people compared it to slavery that they started paying them SOMETHING per hour just to say they were getting paid.

MAN you said that so eloquently as I was thinking the very same thing but wasn't sure how to put it so I just didn't respond. How many White men didn't even graduate from highschool but were able to get "hooked up" on jobs where they made enough money to support themselves, buy property, and support families! I also like how Neely Fuller Jr. from time to time mentions how the racists also enjoy the privilege of "Mysterious Sources Of Income". ....another one of those things I noticed about White folks that others didn't seem to notice, but Mr.Fuller did...and pointed it out. How seemingly poor White folks with only one job that pays minimum wage seem to be able to maintain a house, a car, children, and even feed the damn dog....as well as maintain a drinking or drug addiction....with that ONE low paying job. They're obviously getting money from "somewhere else" besides just that job, but we don't know where it's coming from. You got a $300 a day drug habit, but somehow can hold down a job and pay a $1500 a month mortgage on a house....working at Home Depot?

Now , Juvenile said: -shhhhh........I'll let you in on a little secret. Politics IS a dirty game, but I'm willing to PLAY the game and get a little dirt on me IF I (and my people) can get something TANGIBLE out of it. I'll pass out your fliers. I'll put your name out there. I'll hype you up in the barbershop and in the grocery store. ....if you PAY me to do it and/or promise me a nice little comfortable position in your Administration.

frankster Just because I am slim and my sibling is fat doesn't mean we are of different races.... You're mixing apples and potatoes. First of all, I said a SET of phenotypical differences....not just one or two. Second, being slim and being fat has less to do with PHENOTYPE and more to do with DIET and LIFESTYLE. Slim and fat is only phenotypical if there is a GENETIC cause for the proportional difference. If it's dietary...it's not considered phenotypical. Make it make sense please??? I don't have to make it, it already does...lol. Sometimes it's not the DELIVERY that's the problem....but who it's ADDRESSED to...lol. True ...so lets move on to forces with in Nature and in the Human Mind Body and Spirit....and how they can and do interact. According to you, they are all one in the same....so how can we?